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First post :) - hi everyone!

I've read the book numerous times in the past few years. Hands down the most practical business book I have ever read.

I am in my mid-20s and have created a business through which I am making 200k-300k USD per year in income after re-investing back into the business, etc.

I maintain a minimal lifestyle with a low monthly burn rate. No debt or kids either. I would like to have the money grow passively so I can focus 100% on my actual business.

Almost every single investment book I have read suggests building a some kind of Index-Fund based portfolio using ETFs and let the money grow with the market.

However MJ recommends becoming a lender and living off dividends and interest.

I am conflicted between both options. I don't need the money right now and anything I make from my investments will get re-invested back completely. The only thing I would use the money for is making larger investments 5-10 years from now.

Does anyone (MJ? :)) have any advice on picking between those two options?

Is one better than the other? or should I create a money making system that has a bit of both?

Anyone have any reading recommendations that talks why living off dividends/interest is better than buying and holding ETFs to "grow with the market over time"?
 
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  • Active Daily: Life-changing content posted dozens of times every day. No dead threads.
  • MJ's Inner Circle: Direct access to the author of The Millionaire Fastlane.
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  • Proven Roadmaps: Strategy over motivation. Execution over "hustle porn."
"SCALED TO 6-FIGURE MONTHS"
"Tips and advice here saved me from huge mistakes, others allowed me to scale my business to 6-figure months."
— User MitchC
"INSANE QUALITY OF PEOPLE"
"The number of high quality people I've met from this forum has been insane. All of it predicated on building real value."
— User Richard Peck

"You are the average of the five people you surround yourself with."
Are you surrounding yourself with success?

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