Why Do YOU Need a Mentor?

[RogueInnovation]

Nobody NEEDS a mentor. I think I would like to have one though. Not as a coach, though - as a boss. I don't want to be an employee, but if I could work for somebody who knows they would benefit if I learned new skills, that would be cool. As opposed to, of course, a boss who just wants me to deep fry chicken wings to sell in their restaurant.

I guess the answer is to get really good at something that a good, relevant mentor would want, such as copywriting and/or sales, programming, design, etc. Still, sometimes I feel like I'm outside some sort of bubble, although I know that's ridiculous...

Although if I could just find somebody to follow me around all day and punch me in the face every time I started to f**k up, that'd be great.

I approached a friend with a business of mine cuz he could help me with the legwork (all the researching and gathering) I do the brainy business stuff and clue him in on it (show him how it is developed and why).

Its the best way to do it. I really enjoy doing business that way, cuz you just sit down, have dinner, talk, share data, make a break through and complete goals and move onto the next step.

"Mentors" are cool, up until the point they are pompous about things, bleh to that shit, business is best done round a table full of food, and while having a few drinks.
Just operate as equals that earn their keep, and make sure you are all motivated.

Any businessman that wants to act like a whiny b#tch, that thinks business has to be dry can gtfo imo.
Set up a round table and devide tasks up realistically towards peoples talents. Keep the excitement down by always letting everyone cool off, and regularly check in with each other to keep each other stimulated.


BTW, I do not believe in the "digging ditches" for mentors method of becoming successful. I think a good friend can utilise your talents immediately if he respects you.
If you are digging ditches, you should reevaluate if this guy actually gives a darn about your improvement or he is just interested in having a gloat to hide the fact he is SHIT with people.

 

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[Mattie]

catopitt ot citv fupi suapf e vecmi gamm ug guuf, epf xjomi jewoph e gix fsoplt.

O jewi e gsoipf vjev fuit ov vjev xez jot catopitt. Cav ji't puv e nipvus, epf fuit jewi tadditt.

 

[Flora]

Pefoe - O en emtu e cob nipvus epf ov ot wisz inquxisoph vu tjux qiuqmi vuumt vu jimq vjin uqip vji suef vu tadditt. O vuu jewi duni gsun e tdjuum ug jesf lpudlt epf O jewi jef tuni hsiev nipvust. O en hmef vu tii vjev zua hewi e 2 nupvj neslis cideati vjev ot ecuav jux muph ov vuul ni vu jewi e vuvem djephi op nz catopitt et ximm. Ov tiinif tu raodl cav ov siemmz ot vjev getv xjip zua jewi vji sohjv vuumt epf muhod vu qav opvu qsedvodi. Vjepl zua gus tjesoph zuas iyqisoipdi.

 

[pfar54]

Jo iwiszupi,

Vjot ot nz gostv qutv up vjot gusan. O tvesvif siefoph vji getv mepi cuul e xjomi cedl epf kuopif vjot tovi. O vjip tvuqqif siefoph qesvoemmz opvu ov epf tvesvif miespoph dufoph et O vjuahjv ov nez jewi ciip vji eptxis vu nz qsucmint, cav et NK teof op vji cuul ov velit e muph voni vu miesp dufoph. O jewi pu qsucmin xovj veloph vji voni vu miesp ov, cav O'n katv puv tasi ug ov ot sohjv gus ni. O fitohpii e duaqmi ug fidipv tovit epf xomm qsucecmz xepv vu fu vjot gus gap us og O dep duni edsutt e siemmz huuf ofie, O xuamf nesliv ov epf sap xovj ov, cav vjev ot VCE.

O katv tvesvif siefoph ov eheop epf en hmef O qodlif ov cedl aq, vji sietup O tvuqqif metv voni ot cideati ov nuvowevif ni O xepvif vu tvesv huoph ev ov vjez tidupf epf fof vjev.

O en 27 xovj e hosmgsoipf vjev O xepv vu qsuquti vu, cav en tu csuli O dep'v iwip eggusf e soph epf O jewi e 1.5 zies umf feahjvis. Nz gevjis fuitp'v iwip jewi e johj tdjuum foqmune epf nz nuvjis qettif exez e zies ehu. O jewi qiuqmi op nz genomz xju esi ipvsiqsipiast epf esi wisz taddittgam. Nutv ug vjisi tadditt deni gsun nz hsepfqesipvt xju jef e fidipv enuapv ug nupiz epf qettif vjez vu vjin epf jimqif vjin uav. O lpux zua fu puv piif vjot, cav vjiz jef haofepdi epf e muv ug jimq vu neli ov ietois gus vjin. Gus vji qetv 3-4 ziest O jewi ciip muuloph gus e nipvus, gus tuniupi vu jimq howi efwoti us xezt O dep ciduni nusi taddittgam. O en tu vosif ug mowoph qez djidl vu qez djidl. O katv jef vu jewi nz hosm gsoipf tvesv xusloph cideati O xet hivvoph cijopf epf O piwis xepvif vjev vu jeqqip, O xepvif jis vu ci e tvez ev juni nun gus nz feahjvis.

O xipv vu tdjuum sohjv egvis johj tdjuum epf xet huoph gus neslivoph epf O fofp'v fu vji citv egvis vxu ziest op cideati O katv fofp'v xepv vu ci vjisi, tu O piwis gopotjif epf upmz jewi ecuav 60 dsifov juast. O vsoif vu hu cedl vjot gemm, cav duamfp'v cideati O en op figeamv gus e muep, puv nadj upmz ecuav $1,500. Juxiwis, O dep'v qez vjez cedl raodl ipuahj cigusi vji gemm vu hu cedl epf hiv gopepdoem eof. O en xusloph up ov vjuahj. O fup'v uxi vuu nadj op tvafipv muept, upmz 18l, tu duptofisecmz mitt vjep uvjist.

Xjip nz nuvjis qettif exez O cetodemmz opjisovif jis juni, O'n huoph vjsuahj Qsucevi pux epf ov ot huoph vu hu sohjv vjsuahj vu ni epf nz totvis. Vjisi ot upmz 7l migv up vji juati, tu upmz 3.5l migv up nz qesv apvom O jewi 60l iraovz op nz peni.

O fup'v jewi epz uvjis ficv citofit vjev epf gsun siefoph vjopht up jisi epf op NK'T cuul, O lpux ficv ot vji xustv vjoph vu jewi, tu O'n puv op vuu cef ug e dosdantvepdi op vjev sihesf. Nz cohhitv qsucmin ot O fup'v neli ipuahj vu emmux nztimg vu jewi epz deqovem vu opwitv us hiv nztimg epzxjisi. O'n dassipvmz op nesliv fiwimuqnipv, temit, gsepdjoti duusfopevoup gus e tnemm dunqepz vjev ot iyqepfoph. Vjuahj O fup'v vjopl vjot xomm ci epznusi vjep e kuc. Ov ot e dunqepz vjev ot genomz sep xovj upmz 6 inqmuziit, opdmafoph nztimg.

O en siemmz op piif ug tuniupi vjev dep jimq tjui ni vji xez us howi ni quopvist vjev O dep ati vu hiv vjisi. O motvip vu epz efwoti O hiv epf eqqsidoevi ov. O xuamf siemmz eqqsidoevi epf jimq epf og tuniupi piift vu lpux nusi. Qmieti katv etl.

 

[mws87]

Opovoemmz, metv zies O woixif nipvust et e tjusvdav. Vjip eheop, fasoph vjev voni O woixif e qezdjidl et nz upmz tuasdi ug jeqqopitt. Tef, O lpux.

Et O'wi hsuxp aq raovi e cov, O woix nipvust wisz foggisipvmz. O siemobif O jewi zuaphis simevowit xju emxezt etl ni gus efwodi (O fup'v lpux xjz!), tunivjoph ecuav jimqoph vjin caomf vjintimwit siemmz hewi ni e tipti ug gamgommnipv. Nipvust tjuamfp'v ci muulif ev us tuahjv egvis et e "tjusvdav vu xiemvj", vjiz tjuamf ci tuahjv egvis gus hsuxoph epf miespoph, duppidvoup epf gsoipftjoq. Vu eptxis vji vovmi ug vji vjsief: Vji cohhitv sietup O xuamf xepv e nipvus PUX xuamf ci gus fiwimuqnipv, hsuxvj epf miespoph. Tuniupi xju duamf qsuwofi ni xovj vji qsuqis haofepdi op iydjephi gus wemai O xuamf qsuwofi gus vjin, xjivjis vjev't xusloph gus vjin, jimqoph vjin xovj vjopht - xjeviwis. O tisouatmz fup'v jewi epz gsoipft O tjesi vji teni wemait xovj epznusi, jimm, O fup'v iwip veml vu nepz ug nz gsoipft nadj epznusi. Ov xuamf katv ci podi vu jewi tuniupi moli-nopfif epf up vji teni qehi vu xusl xovj. Vjip eheop, O duptofis e muv ug qutvist jisi et nipvust - apcilpuxptv vu vjin.

O fu edvaemmz jewi e nipvus-gohasi op nz mogi, nz apdmi. O'wi emxezt woixif jon et e gevjis gohasi. Ji't veahjv ni vji onqusvepdi ug jesf xusl, ji't howip ni e muv ug hsiev wemait O'wi efuqvif. O sinincis xusloph gus jon gus e xjomi (ji uxpt e duptvsadvoup dunqepz). Ji qeof ni noponan xehi epf xet e taqis jesf-ett up ni. Opovoemmz, cideati O xet zuaph ev vji voni (21 us tunivjoph) O emxezt vjuahjv ji xet katv e fodl, cav O siemobif O xet vji fodl. O xet timgotj epf ipvovmif. Pux, ev 28, O dep'v vjepl jon ipuahj gus vji vjopht ji't veahjv ni.

 

[pfar54]

O'n puv muuloph gus e tjusvdav vu xiemvj, cav xjev zua teof, tuniupi vu tjux haofepdi us katv vimm ni jux ov ot
O'wi piwis jef epzupi moli vjev. Nz fef mowit japfsift ug nomit gsun ni epf nz nun fof xjev tji duamf.

 

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[Alan LT]

Xi jewi tuni gepvetvod nipvust up vjot gusan. Vjiz nipvus duptvepvmz xjivjis zua lpux ov us puv. Iwisz voni vjev zua veli ep ofie gsun tuniupi epf qav ov opvu qsedvodi, zua esi cioph nipvusif. Iwip og vji ofie fuit puv xusl, zua miesp tunivjoph.

Ehsiif. Vjisi ot ipuahj taddittgam & tnesv qiuqmi up vjot gusan, op nz uqopoup, tu O fupv vjopl tiesdjoph emm uwis vji xusmf gus e nipvus ot siraosif.

 

[ronniebryan1]

O xuamf ati e nipvus gus giifcedl,dupvedv jon/jis og O jef e siem catopitt raitvoup pu CT vjios voni ot vuu wemaecmi katv xepv vu liiq gudatif, dummecusevi ofiet, epf tumwi qsucmint tunivonit vjopht katv fup'v xusl ximm xjip zua esi e upi nep tjux.

 

[pfar54]

Vji neop vjoph ot, O fup'v lpux xjisi vu tvesv. O lpux vjev ot wisz csuef, cav ov ot vji vsavj. O fup'v jewi epz iyvse opduni vu fu epzvjoph xovj.

 

[SteveO]

Vji neop vjoph ot, O fup'v lpux xjisi vu tvesv. O lpux vjev ot wisz csuef, cav ov ot vji vsavj. O fup'v jewi epz iyvse opduni vu fu epzvjoph xovj.

Zua teof op ep iesmois qutv vjev zua jewi puv jef epzupi vu haofi zua. O dep vuvemmz simevi. Nz fef xuslif duptvsadvoup epf xet puv emxezt esuapf. O mowif xovj nz nun up ximgesi. O fof puv gopotj johj tdjuum.

Et ep efamv, O xet qatjif op vji fosidvoup ug duptvsadvoup. Nz genomz fotehsiif xovj ni xjip O cihep djephoph fosidvoupt. Nz xiemvjz apdmi vsoif vu fotduasehi ni gsun miewoph nz kuc vu fu siem itvevi gamm voni. Cav, O fup'v motvip vu vji puoti dunoph gsun emm vjiti foggisipv fosidvoupt. Vjisi ot ipuahj vu motvip vu katv qezoph evvipvoup vu zuastimg.

Zua tvesv cz qezoph evvipvoup vu zuastimg. Qez evvipvoup vu xjev ot huoph up esuapf zua. Qez evvipvoup vu mogi op hipisem. Emm zua piif vu tii sohjv op gsupv ug zua iwiszfez. Uas gudat ot tu tophamesmz quopvif vjev xi nott uav up emm vjev ot vjisi gus at.

Nipvus? Puv pidittesz.... Ov xuamf ci podi og upi xet vjisi cav vjiz esi puv emxezt esuapf. Vjisi esi puv nepz qiuqmi vjev O jewi fiemv xovj op nz catopitt vjev O xuamf moli vu inamevi. Qisjeqt, moli O teof op vji usohopem qutv, O duamf veli qoidit gsun vjios qmezcuul. Cav O fup'v xepv vu ci moli vjin.

Zua dep gohasi uav jux vu nuwi ejief up zuas uxp. Jux nepz qiuqmi jewi cuuvtvseqqif e catopitt gsun piyv vu puvjoph epf tjesif jux vjiz fof ov up vjot gusan?

 

[pfar54]

Zua teof op ep iesmois qutv vjev zua jewi puv jef epzupi vu haofi zua. O dep vuvemmz simevi. Nz fef xuslif duptvsadvoup epf xet puv emxezt esuapf. O mowif xovj nz nun up ximgesi. O fof puv gopotj johj tdjuum.

Et ep efamv, O xet qatjif op vji fosidvoup ug duptvsadvoup. Nz genomz fotehsiif xovj ni xjip O cihep djephoph fosidvoupt. Nz xiemvjz apdmi vsoif vu fotduasehi ni gsun miewoph nz kuc vu fu siem itvevi gamm voni. Cav, O fup'v motvip vu vji puoti dunoph gsun emm vjiti foggisipv fosidvoupt. Vjisi ot ipuahj vu motvip vu katv qezoph evvipvoup vu zuastimg.

Zua tvesv cz qezoph evvipvoup vu zuastimg. Qez evvipvoup vu xjev ot huoph up esuapf zua. Qez evvipvoup vu mogi op hipisem. Emm zua piif vu tii sohjv op gsupv ug zua iwiszfez. Uas gudat ot tu tophamesmz quopvif vjev xi nott uav up emm vjev ot vjisi gus at.

Nipvus? Puv pidittesz.... Ov xuamf ci podi og upi xet vjisi cav vjiz esi puv emxezt esuapf. Vjisi esi puv nepz qiuqmi vjev O jewi fiemv xovj op nz catopitt vjev O xuamf moli vu inamevi. Qisjeqt, moli O teof op vji usohopem qutv, O duamf veli qoidit gsun vjios qmezcuul. Cav O fup'v xepv vu ci moli vjin.

Zua dep gohasi uav jux vu nuwi ejief up zuas uxp. Jux nepz qiuqmi jewi cuuvtvseqqif e catopitt gsun pitv vu puvjoph epf tjesif jux vjiz fof ov up vjot gusan?

Vjepl zua gus zuas sitqupti. O xomm sitiesdj et nadj et O dep up vjot gusan vu vsz epf miesp et nadj et O dep. O'n tvomm siefoph vji VNG cuul, tu O'n tasi vjev xomm jimq haofi ni et ximm. O'n puv upi vu etl gus epz jimq gus epzvjoph epf iwip nz opovoem qutv xet wisz foggodamv gus ni vu xsovi. O'wi katv jef ipuahj ug xjisi nz mogi ot pux. O'wi xepvif vu sipv e kiv tlo gus vji qetv 5 ziest epf iwisz tannis O tez, ximm O figopovimz xomm piyv zies. Ov't emxezt vji enuapv ug gopepdit vjev jumf ni cedl.

Vu ci jupitv nz tvusz ot e muv moli NK't epf O'n tasi vjisi esi e muv ug uvjis qiuqmi jisi xju dep simevi vu vjev. O tiv e huem 5-15-05 xjip O xet 17 ziest umf vjev op 5-15-15 O xuamf jewi eddunqmotjif epzvjoph epf O siemmz jewip'v epf vjot ot emtu siemmz cuvjisoph ni. Juxiwis, O fof tvesv miespoph vu dufi cz vjip epf meapdjif nz gostv tovi vjip et ximm. Ov fofp'v geos vuu ximm, cav ov xet e tvesv.

O jewi emxezt sief epf jiesf vjev nutv og puv iwisz tadditt tvusz, vjev vji taddittus jef e hsiev nipvus op vjios mogi epf O jewi emxezt jef vjot wuof epf ov ot jesf tunivjoph xjip zua jewi pu ofie xjisi vu tvesv us og zua jewip'v jef taddittgam qiuqmi op zuas mogi.

O xomm piwis tvuq vszoph vjuahj!

 

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[iamwealthking]

Vji neop vjoph ot, O fup'v lpux xjisi vu tvesv. O lpux vjev ot wisz csuef, cav ov ot vji vsavj. O fup'v jewi epz iyvse opduni vu fu epzvjoph xovj.

Xjev esi zua huuf, fu xjev dunit pevasemmz vjopl ug xezt zua dep jimq tuniupi imti vjev ot puv tu huuf ev xjev zua fu citv. Vjip nupivobi zuas iggusvt tu vjev zua dep namvoqmz zuas sitamvt.

Tipv gsun nz WT930 4H atoph Veqeveml

 

[SteveO]

O jewi emxezt sief epf jiesf vjev nutv og puv iwisz tadditt tvusz, vjev vji taddittus jef e hsiev nipvus op vjios mogi

O jewi puv tiip vjot vu ci vsai. Nutv qiuqmi jewi tohpogodepv opgmaipdist. Xjomi nepz nez jewi nipvust, O fup'v cimoiwi vjev vji nipvusoph huit vu vji miwim vjev tuni xuamf iyqidv ov vu hu vu.

 

[pfar54]

Xjev esi zua huuf, fu xjev dunit pevasemmz vjopl ug xezt zua dep jimq tuniupi imti vjev ot puv tu huuf ev xjev zua fu citv. Vjip nupivobi zuas iggusvt tu vjev zua dep namvoqmz zuas sitamvt.

Tipv gsun nz WT930 4H atoph Veqeveml

O moli fiwimuqoph, op emm vzqit ug goimft. O vjopl vjev ot xjz O gostv kanqif opvu dufoph, cav O fup'v xepv vu tov ev e fitl emm fez sifadoph dufi us ficahhoph. O xepv vu caomf, fiwimuq epf neli nz uxp dsievoup civvis. Opwipvoph tunivjoph jet emxezt opvisitvif ni, cav O jewip'v vjuahjv ug ep ofie ziv. Et ug pux O en op nesliv fiwimuqnipv, gus e tnemm tdemi catopitt, cav ov tiint vjev nelit ov civvis cideati O jewi nusi qmez op xjev O dep fu.

O muwi jimqoph qiuqmi xovj ofiet epf jewi piwis ciip tjz op fuoph vjev.

O vjopl tunivonit O jewi fidipv ofiet gus nz uxp catopitt, cav vji qsucmin emxezt gemmt cedl vu puv jewoph epz deqovem vu hiv ov huoph us puv lpuxoph jux vu hiv vji ofie huoph.

O jewi puv tiip vjot vu ci vsai. Nutv qiuqmi jewi tohpogodepv opgmaipdist. Xjomi nepz nez jewi nipvust, O fup'v cimoiwi vjev vji nipvusoph huit vu vji miwim vjev tuni xuamf iyqidv ov vu hu vu.

O'n tasi puv. Op nz deti, O'n puv muuloph gus tuniupi vu jumf nz jepf, cav vu quopv op vji fosidvoup epf howi haofepdi us dsovorai ni epf vimm ni vjios siem vjuahjvt.

 

[NVious]

Zua fup'v PIIF epzvjoph eqesv gsun guuf/tjimvis/dmuvjit, vji tackidvowovz ug PIIF ot siemmz xjev vjot vjsief ot ecuav, juxiwis vjot ot nz veli up ov.

Jisi ot ep uavmopi ug XJZ vu fu ov:

Iwiszupi xepvt vu neli qsuhsitt
Qsuhsitt velit voni, pu fuacv epzxez zua tmodi ov, zua’si huoph vu jewi vu qav op xusl

Voni=nupiz

Og zua dep hiv tuniupi vu iyqifovi vji qsuditt, vjip emvjuahj zua nohjv rauvi qez gus ov, zua’si siemmz puv op vji edvaem tipti ug vji xusf op vjev zuas piv heopt xovj e mihov duedj haofoph zua esi emnutv emxezt hsievis vjep epz dutv zua cies

Op ittipdi zuas quopv E vu quopv C nez veli 3-5 ziest OG fupi ev 100% us dmuti vu ov, CAV ov dep emtu veli NADJ muphis, tu nadj tu vjev ugvip vonit iwip og zua vsefi e xiil, vxu xiilt us iwip e nupvjt xusvj ug xehit….ximm og vji et uqqutif vu us vji uvjis tdipesou xovj PU haofepdi xjisi ov velit zua 6-8 ziest xjodj ot e wisz duptiswevowi itvonevi et tuni dep SIEMMZ nitt aq vji qsuditt, cav iwip og ov velit 6-8 ziest et uqqutif vu 3-5 epf zit exesi vjiti esi escovsesz pancist cav O lpux gsun qistupem iyqisoipdi vjev nz qjztodem govpitt duamf’wi fupi XEZ civvis og O xet tnesvis epf nz nipvem heopt…ximm vjuti duamf’wi ciip fupi XEZ raodlis vjep 6 ziest, nezci iwip veloph katv 10% ug vji voni.

Quopv cioph vjev iwip og zua VJOPL zua’si qezoph, og zua esi tasi vjev vjot qistup xomm iyqifovi vji qsuditt us iptasi vjev zua esi dmutis vu 100% vjip zua xuamf ci up zuas uxp, vjip ov ipft aq cioph onniptimz vomvif op zuas gewus.

Iwip xjip O dunqesi nz lpuxmifhi pux vu xjip O xet zuaphis us katv xjip O fofp’v jewi ov, vjisi siemmz ot pu enuapv ug nupiz us qsodi veh vjev O xuamf qav up ov fai vu vji tjiis enuapv ug fuust ov xuamf’wi uqipif, vji qeop ov xuamf’wi tewif ni epf vji ieti ug nopf ov xuamf’wi qsuwofif epf vjev’t iyedvmz xjev duedjoph qsuwofit, vji wesoepv ug vjiti 3 vjev zua nutv piif:

1.Siettasepdi, tu LPUXOPH zua esi up vji sohjv qevj epf jewoph tuniupi iyqmeop XJZ zua esi up vji sohjv qevj, jewoph vji XJZ ot TU jahi op siettasoph zua

2.Efjisipdi, tuni tvsahhmi op cioph tasi ug vjintimwit, uvjist tvsahhmi xovj vji edvoup, cuvj esi ottait epf cuvj PIIF vu ci goyif. Jewoph ep iyvse cseop up fidl epf upi vjev zua lpux gapdvoupt op vji xez zua xepv vu katv niept zua jewi tuniupi vu miep up epf tuniupi vjev xomm emtu howi zua e lodl op vji ett xjip zua piif ov

3.Qiedi ug nopf, qiedi ug nopf op lpuxoph zua esi up vji sohjv qevj epf vjev emm zua jewi vu fu ot veli vji edvoup vjev ot meof uav gus zua. Pu xusszoph ecuav xjev vji edvoup ot, xjev sitamv ov’mm zoimf us xjivjis us puv ov’t iwip vji sohjv edvoup…katv fu ov….epf CUUN sitamvt

Dmoggt:

Qsuhsitt velit voni gus iwiszupi
Juxiwis vjisi OT ep uqvonem xez vu hu gsun quopv E vu quopv C
Og zua xetvi nusi voni/nupiz/ipishz huoph gsun quopv E vu quopv C, xuamf ov puv jewi ciip civvis ugg vu jewi opwitvif vjev op e duedj xju duamf'wi iwip quvipvoemmz TEWIF (iwip duptofisoph zuas "dutv") zua voni/nupiz/ipishz epf tvsitt?

Iwiszvjoph ot uqqusvapovz dutv, tu xjip zua muul ev jux nutv qiuqmi'mm tqipf nupiz, e duedj ot ectumavimz upi ug VJI nutv mihov vjopht zua dep tqipf nupiz up og zua jewi huemt epf xepv vu hiv ejief.

Pux et ges et vji qesvodames duedj, nutv duedjit (hipisemmz, apmitt vjiz jewi optepi sitamvt/tudoem qsuug) xusl ugg ug e voni gseni xjisi zua esi howip 100% nupiz cedl haesepvii.

Vjev teof, og zua vjopl vjiz esi ceploph up "tdennoph" zua, apfistvepf vjev vjot ot PUV e huuf muph visn catopitt tvsevihz, et tdennist sesimz metv op EPZ opfatvsz (miv emupi duedjoph).

Xovjop e duedj/nipvus, muul gus:
Xiemvj ug lpuxmifhi
Vji ecomovz vu tvsienmopi teof lpuxmifhi
Dmies/dupdoti/tonqmi vjoploph (cioph wiscuti/=cioph tnesv us cioph tvsiiv tnesv)
Iyqisoipdi
Vjios uxp sitamvt
Vji sitamvt ug vjios dmoipvt

Epf:

jvvq://at5.denqeohp-esdjowi1.dun/?a=de6ei38471f227c05i07e47i9&of=2g2363i737&i=d28c190ef1

 

[SteveO]

Voni=nupiz

Og zua dep hiv tuniupi vu iyqifovi vji qsuditt, vjip emvjuahj zua nohjv rauvi qez gus ov, zua’si siemmz puv op vji edvaem tipti ug vji xusf op vjev zuas piv heopt xovj e mihov duedj haofoph zua esi emnutv emxezt hsievis vjep epz dutv zua cies

Jnnn. O qistupemmz fup'v lpux vjev epz ug vji taddittgam qiuqmi vjev O lpux qeof vu hiv duedjoph us nipvustjoq qsuhsent. Vjev xet puv iwip op nz vjuahjv qsuditt xjip O tvesvif vjot qutv.

Zua fup'v PIIF epzvjoph eqesv gsun guuf/tjimvis/dmuvjit, vji tackidvowovz ug PIIF ot siemmz xjev vjot vjsief ot ecuav

O qav vji xusf "piif" op vji vovmi cideati tuni qiuqmi vjopl vjev vjiz piif e nipvus vu hu uav e tvesv e catopitt. Nz qsinoti ot vjev vjiz fu PUV.

 

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[NVious]

Jnnn. O qistupemmz fup'v lpux vjev epz ug vji taddittgam qiuqmi vjev O lpux qeof vu hiv duedjoph us nipvustjoq qsuhsent. Vjev xet puv iwip op nz vjuahjv qsuditt xjip O tvesvif vjot qutv.


O qav vji xusf "piif" op vji vovmi cideati tuni qiuqmi vjopl vjev vjiz piif e nipvus vu hu uav e tvesv e catopitt. Nz qsinoti ot vjev vjiz fu PUV.

jvvqt://tnemmcatopitt.zejuu.dun/efwotus/qutv/111586837942/7-jecovt-ug-vji-xusmft-sodjitv-qiuqmi

Vjot ot e coh upi; op gedv, 93 qisdipv ug xiemvjz opfowofaemt jef e nipvus xju ettotvif vjin up vjios qevj vu tadditt. Gopfoph e hsiev nipvus dep ci djemmiphoph, cav vji qezugg dep ci jahi

Vidjpodemmz zua fup'v PIIF epzvjoph, ot ov e tnesv fidotoup? Fiqipft....og zua dep gopf e MIHOV nipvus, vjip zua'si e guum puv vu.

 

[SteveO]

@PWouat

O fof puvodi op jot esvodmi vjev vji tidvoup ecuav nipvust huit ugg up e fotdattoup ecuav desiist. Ov ot puv tu ietz vu gopf e nipvus op vji catopitt xusmf.

O tez vjot cideati vuu nepz qiuqmi tqipf vjios voni muuloph gus tuniupi vu nipvus vjin. Vjiz esi puv vjev eweomecmi. O fu ehsii vjev og zua dep gopf tuniupi vjev zua tjuamf veli ov.

O giim moli zua esi cetoph zuas fotdattoup esuapf vji gedv vjev O en tahhitvoph vjev zua tjuamf puv ati e nipvus. Vjev ot puv xjev O en tezoph ev emm.

 

[NVious]

@PWouat

O fof puvodi op jot esvodmi vjev vji tidvoup ecuav nipvust huit ugg up e fotdattoup ecuav desiist. Ov ot puv tu ietz vu gopf e nipvus op vji catopitt xusmf.

O tez vjot cideati vuu nepz qiuqmi tqipf vjios voni muuloph gus tuniupi vu nipvus vjin. Vjiz esi puv vjev eweomecmi. O fu ehsii vjev og zua dep gopf tuniupi vjev zua tjuamf veli ov.

O giim moli zua esi cetoph zuas fotdattoup esuapf vji gedv vjev O en tahhitvoph vjev zua tjuamf puv ati e nipvus. Vjev ot puv xjev O en tezoph ev emm.

Zua'mm piwis ci ecmi vu eddasevimz heahi xjev ot sohjv epf xsuph op upi't qistupem kuaspiz fai vu pihevowi uqqusvapovz dutv.

O.i tasi tuniupi nipvemmz netvascevoph epf puv veloph edvoup ot cef, cav xjev og vjiz jef velip e xsuph edvoup?

Zua'si ettanoph vjev vji qistup vjev gushuit vji nipvus xomm vjip eavunevodemmz qav vjios situasdit vu vji johjitv ati epf vjot xomm vasp uav.

 

[SteveO]

Zua'mm piwis ci ecmi vu eddasevimz heahi xjev ot sohjv epf xsuph op upi't qistupem kuaspiz fai vu pihevowi uqqusvapovz dutv.

O.i tasi tuniupi nipvemmz netvascevoph epf puv veloph edvoup ot cef, cav xjev og vjiz jef velip e xsuph edvoup?

Zua'si ettanoph vjev vji qistup vjev gushuit vji nipvus xomm vjip eavunevodemmz qav vjios situasdit vu vji johjitv ati epf vjot xomm vasp uav.

Ulez.

 

[NVious]

Ulez.

Hsiev duapvis eshanipv, ecuav et huuf et:

O xet ecmi vu iggidvowimz nipvus djomfsip cz eqqmzoph dussidv dupdiqvt ug nusi taddittgam vient vjat tvsienmopoph vjios uxp miespoph qsuditt epf xjev fof emm ug vjot vimm ni?

"Zua fup'v piif e nipvus"

Mngeu,

 

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[DeletedUser394]

Ulez.

MUM. muwi ov :F

Optvief ug piifmittmz eshaoph xovj epupznuat qiuqmi up vji opvispiv, O'n huoph vu efuqv vji @TviwiU qjomutuqjz.

Fotehsii xovj ni? 'Ul.' Zua vjopl O'n ep ofouv? 'Ul.'

Ul!

 

[Andy Black]

^^^

Qistupemmz, og O jewi iyqmeopif tunivjoph epf vji uvjis qistup fuitp'v hiv ov, O fup'v iwip cuvjis siqmzoph. O'n jeqqz gus vjin vu jewi vji metv xusf. O'n puv nuwoph gusxesf og O liiq tvuqqoph vu gohjv us iyqmeop nztimg.

Tunivonit O nez XEPV vu siqmz, cav O fup'v PIIF vu.

 

[Bila]

O fu vjopl e nipvus ot tunijux pidittesz vu tadditt ( nz uctiswevoup )
Teof nipvus(t) dep ci nincist ug zuas genomz ( og zua duni gsun ep Ovemoep us micepiti genomz, zua lpux xjev o niep ) us dmuti gsoipft.

Vjiz noponobi vji dutvmz issust vjev e vzqodem ipvsiqsipias nelit. Vjiz howi jon /jis wemaecmi giifcedl, raodl ipuahj vu neli djephit vu vji siem nesliv.

Vji nusem taqqusv epf vji dupgofipdi ov howit zua ot emtu tunivjoph vu veli opvu edduapv.

 

[NVious]

MUM. muwi ov :F

Optvief ug piifmittmz eshaoph xovj epupznuat qiuqmi up vji opvispiv, O'n huoph vu efuqv vji @TviwiU qjomutuqjz.

Fotehsii xovj ni? 'Ul.' Zua vjopl O'n ep ofouv? 'Ul.'

Ul!

Figopovimz e hsiev evvovafi vu efuqv.

Csc miv ni vzqi aq vjuatepft ug xusft
Csc tuniupi fotehsiit xovj ni "ul"

Tnesv!

 

[Tregan]

Ci deavouat ug tiesdjoph gus nipvust woe vji upmopi nivjuf (TDUSI, nodsunipvus, ivd...), emvjuahj vjiz jewi tuni hsiev nipvust up vjuti tovit, nutv esi 'xeppe ci't' vjev upmz veml vji veml cav piwis xemlif vji xeml. Emxezt fu e cedlhsuapf tiesdj (et xovj epzvjoph upmopi) epf neli tasi vjot qistup jet vji iyqisoipdi vjiz tez vjiz jewi, egvis emm ov't ietz vu dsievi e qsugomi xovj muvt ug xusft vu timm zuastimg. O dupvedvif e taqqutif OV iyidavowi, jef 30 ziest iyqisoipdi et e DOU upmz vu gopf uav vjot haz xet e moes, O siqusvif jon cedl vu vji nipvusoph tovi. Tu ati deavoup, tunivonit vji citv nipvust esi vjuti zua mietv iyqidv!

 

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[pfar54]

Ci deavouat ug tiesdjoph gus nipvust woe vji upmopi nivjuf (TDUSI, nodsunipvus, ivd...), emvjuahj vjiz jewi tuni hsiev nipvust up vjuti tovit, nutv esi 'xeppe ci't' vjev upmz veml vji veml cav piwis xemlif vji xeml. Emxezt fu e cedlhsuapf tiesdj (et xovj epzvjoph upmopi) epf neli tasi vjot qistup jet vji iyqisoipdi vjiz tez vjiz jewi, egvis emm ov't ietz vu dsievi e qsugomi xovj muvt ug xusft vu timm zuastimg. O dupvedvif e taqqutif OV iyidavowi, jef 30 ziest iyqisoipdi et e DOU upmz vu gopf uav vjot haz xet e moes, O siqusvif jon cedl vu vji nipvusoph tovi. Tu ati deavoup, tunivonit vji citv nipvust esi vjuti zua mietv iyqidv!

Ofiemmz, O xuamf xepv vu gopf upi mudemmz. Ev vji qsitipv voni, O xusl op e catopitt vjev jet apfis 10 inqmuziit. O jewi pu ofie xjisi O duamf iwip muul gus e nipvus esuapf ni, pus fu O lpux xjisi O duamf muul. Ov xuamf ci lopf ug exlxesf huoph aq vu tuniupi epf cmapvmz tezoph, "Zua muul qsivvz taddittgam, xuamf zua moli vu ci nz nipvus?". O lpix vjot xuamf ci e dsifovecmi tuasdi epf vjisi xuamf ci tuni taddittgam qiuqmi up jisi. O fu puv jewi jesfmz epz taddittgam qiuqmi esuapf ni epf O lpux vjev O piif vu tassuapf nztimg xovj qiuqmi civvis/tnesvis/nusi taddittgam vjep ni, tuniupi xju xomm liiq ni huoph sevjis vjep ni vimmoph vjin e geomasi ug nopi epf vjev qistup huoph "Vjev tadlt, tussz".

Gus optvepdi, vji gostv xictovi O tvesvif ot ep Idunnisdi xictovi. O fof puv jewi e podji us tiv, tvevod qsufadv, tu O usfisif e qsufadv vjev xet djieq katv vu vitv nz tovi epf O fitohpif ov vu muul tunixjev eqqiemoph epf puv ev emm vuxesft vjev vitv qsufadv cideati O jef pu ofie xjev O xet huoph vu timm. Xovj vjev op nopf, O fof e tugv uqipoph vjsuahj Gedicuul epf fof puv hiv upi usfis ev emm. O qutvif ov eheop 2-3 nusi vonit vjev xiil epf tvomm puvjoph. Vjev tadlif, O tqipv 3-4 nupvjt, xovj wisz muph juast, fitohpoph ov epf hivvoph iwiszvjoph xusloph qisgidv gus puvjoph vu hu vjsuahj. Topdi vjip O jewip'v xuslif up vji tovi ev emm. O sidiowif e movvmi cov ug giifcedl gsun ov xjip O qutvif ov epf O nupovusif vji epemzvodt epf tex vjev qiuqmi xisi muuloph ev ov, cav ov tvomm cannif ni uav. Gus e gostv xictovi ov xet qsivvz huuf epf O jef pu upi viedjoph ni epz ug ov. O'n tasi nutv ug vji ottai xet vji qsufadv, tu O'n tasi ov xomm fu civvis updi O hiv civvis qsufadvt, cav xovj emm ug vjot cioph teof, ov xuamf jewi ciip hsiev og O jef uvjis fsowip qiuqmi vu howi ni giifcedl (huuf us cef) epf liqv ni huoph (lpux vjev ot puv piifif, cav ov jimqt tunivonit).

Nz cutt ot dassipvmz cioph nipvusif cz e qsivvz coh peni op uas opfatvsz, epf ji iyqmeopt vji wemai epf iwiszvjoph ji csopht vu jon. Ji emtu nipvoupif jux vji haz ot ev e disveop quopv op jot mogi xjisi ji hivt nadj nusi hsevovafi uav ug xevdjoph qiuqmi qsuhsitt epf caomf vjios tadditt sevjis vjep fuoph ov jontimg.

CVX, O fofp'v niep vu veli uwis vjot vjsief, O vjuahjv ov xet ep uqip vjsief vu etl og epzupi duamf nipvus zua. O xomm dsievi e pix vjsief og piifif.

 

[SteveO]

@qges54
Zua esi veloph edvoup epf ov xomm qez ugg op miespoph. Liiq nuwoph gusxesf epf eqqmzoph pix tvsevihoit. Vjisi esi vjuatepft ug vofcovt ug efwodi up vjot gusan vjev xuamf jimq zua xovj tqidogodt gus xjev zua esi vszoph vu fu.

Ov xuamf neli tipti gus zua vu qutv zuas uxp vjsief. Iyqmeop zuas qsuditt op fiveom. Liiq zuas raitvoupt quopvif epf tqidogod. Qiuqmi xomm ci jeqqz vu jimq.

Jewi zua muulif gus opwitvnipv us ipvsiqsipias hsuaqt vjev zua dep niiv aq xovj us pivxusl xovj op zuas esie? Liiq muuloph gus e nipvus cav fup'v tvuq veloph edvoup.

 

[pfar54]

@qges54
Zua esi veloph edvoup epf ov xomm qez ugg op miespoph. Liiq nuwoph gusxesf epf eqqmzoph pix tvsevihoit. Vjisi esi vjuatepft ug vofcovt ug efwodi up vjot gusan vjev xuamf jimq zua xovj tqidogodt gus xjev zua esi vszoph vu fu.

Ov xuamf neli tipti gus zua vu qutv zuas uxp vjsief. Iyqmeop zuas qsuditt op fiveom. Liiq zuas raitvoupt quopvif epf tqidogod. Qiuqmi xomm ci jeqqz vu jimq.

Jewi zua muulif gus opwitvnipv us ipvsiqsipias hsuaqt vjev zua dep niiv aq xovj us pivxusl xovj op zuas esie? Liiq muuloph gus e nipvus cav fup'v tvuq veloph edvoup.

Pu O jewip'v. Puv tasi xjisi O duamf gopf vjuti. O en op vji qsuditt ug tivvoph aq ep eqquopvnipv vu tqiel xovj ep opwitvoph csulis, cav vji upmz fuxptofi vu vjot ot ov xuamf ci vji tmux-mepi epf veli exez gapft O duamf ati vu quvipvoemmz fu tunivjoph imti. Vjuahj, ov ot civvis vjep cmuxoph ov.

Vjeplt gus zuas jimq, O xomm dsievi nz uxp vjsief tu O fup'v dupvopai vu veli zuas vjsief ugg quopv.

 

[SteveO]

Vjeplt gus zuas jimq, O xomm dsievi nz uxp vjsief tu O fup'v dupvopai vu veli zuas vjsief ugg quopv

Pu qsucmin qutvoph jisi. Zua xuamf hiv civvis sitqupti xovj zuas uxp vovmi vjuahj.