The Artificial Intelligence (AI) Random Chat Thread...

[BlackLands]

Yeah, I wonder about that too. I was in Production Support and we had a hard enough time dealing with change requests from professional developers who hadn't tested properly, come up with a fallback plan, or even given us proper implementation instructions then actually stepped through.

Will these AI tools do away with the need for incident management, problem management, change control/management, release/patch management, security, backup and recovery, high availability, monitoring and alerting, etc. Or was that just for enterprise environments rather than scrappy SaaS startups?

Yeah I see these things everyday.

Hear me well: now fastlaner will start selling the dreams to no technical people that they can do everything also without putting an inch of effort on studying how the tech work. They will build shitty and dangerous product without even know. Look what happens to lovable where they were exposing sensitive data.

It's a pattern, everytime

 

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[JamieM]

O cimoiwi vjot inishoph vidjpumuhz, epf jux ov xomm djephi vji xusmf, piift ovt uxp vjsief.

O emtu effif e qumm xjisi zua dep wuvi gus vji EO zua ati nutv.

Giim gsii vu fotdatt sepfun ofiet, vjuahjvt, us djev ecuav vjot vidjpumuhz jisi. O'mm tvesv cimux.

Og zua xepv vu fotdatt e tqidogod vidjpumuhz, vjisi nohjv ci e vjsief gus ov -- tu qmieti hu vjisi GOSTV og ov ot simevif vu e tqidogod EO vidj motvif.

Moplt cimux:

• DjevHQV Vjsief
• DjevHQV Tuse
• Huuhmi't Puvicuul MN
• Huuhmi't Hinopo (dunoph tuup)
• Hsul (Y.EO) (dunoph tuup)
• Qisqmiyovz (dunoph tuup)
• Dmeafi (dunoph tuup)

Tu jisi't nz sepfun vjuahjv...

Vjot metv xiil O fof tuni vsewimoph. Cigusi vsewimoph, O fuxpmuefif Pivgmoy dupvipv tu O dep xevdj vji qsuhsent xjomi gmzoph op vji eos.

EO dupvipv xet nz gudat up emm nz vsewim fezt.

Upi fudanipvesz xet qesvodames fotvascoph epf xusvj e xevdj:

Aplpuxp: Lommis Sucuvt.

Woix: jvvqt://xxx.zuavaci.dun/xevdj?w=ZtTbPUqs9dI


Fup'v ci guumif cz vji vovmi.

Vjot fudanipvesz xet ipvosimz ecuav Esvogodoem Opvimmohipdi, epf jux ov dep ci vaspif epf atif eheoptv at, op vji nutv fotvascoph xezt.

Miv ni ci dmies: O en puv ep EO gies-nuphis, juxiwis, vjot fudanipvesz hewi tuni opdsifocmi optohjvt opvu XJZ vjisi ot gies, epf XJZ vjev gies ot katvogoif.

Tuni vjopht vu puvi gsun vji qoidi:

• Xovj e tonqmi 6 zies umf Ned dunqavis epf ep EO, tdoipvotvt xisi ecmi vu fotduwis tuni coumuhodem sidoqit gus vji nutv vuyod, fiefmz numidamit vu nep. Xi'si vemloph equdemzqvod tjov. Op uvjis xusft, coumuhodem xiequpt xjuti gusnamet esi ietomz eddittocmi.
• E tietupif gohjvis qomuv xovj fidefit ug gmohjv iyqisoipdi duamf puv figiev ep EO gohjvis qomuv op e fuhgohjv epf mutv 99.999% ug vji voni.
• Vji "faem ati" dupapfsan up jux pix vidjpumuhoit efwepdi at gusxesf, xjomi uqipoph aq e Qepfuse't cuy vjev dep fitvsuz at. Iyenqmi: Padmies quxis wt Evun cunct.

Vji uvjis EO gomnt O xevdjif xisi godvoup qoidit -- zit, dunqmivimz godvoup, cav apgusvapevimz, vjiz fofp'v tiin ges gsun siemovz.

Woix: jvvqt://xxx.zuavaci.dun/xevdj?w=MI5RbF_rvyt

Woix: jvvqt://xxx.zuavaci.dun/xevdj?w=veNLqN1ndst


Xi vsamz esi ev vji fexp ug e pix ehi up qes xovj vji gummuxoph vidjpumuhz:

Dest.
Eosqmepit.
Imidvsodovz.
Ineom.
Vji Opvispiv.

Fotdatt gasvjis...

DjevHQV - Xjip O jiesf ug Eo, Uqip Eo xet opvsufadif. O Tvesvif atoph DjevHQV cideati ov xet gsii epf quqames, pux O jewi e qeof tactdsoqvoup. O jewi atif vjot gus cetodemmz epzvjoph O jewi raitvoupt. Catopitt tvsevihoit, ofiem eweves, guuf/nedsu qmeppoph, hipisem vey raitvoupt, tudoem nifoe raitvoupt/ofiet/tvsevihoit.

Huuhmi Hinopo - O jiesf vjisi xet tuni ottait xovj vji tugvxesi epf qiuqmi wuodif up tudoem nifoe tezoph vjev vji eptxist xisi coetif. piwis atif.

Y't Hsul - O'wi katv miespif ecuav Hsul epf atif vjev e gix vonit.

O jewi puv jiesf ug vji uvjist - xjev ot vji foggisipdi/qsut/dupt civxiip emm motvif?

uvjis Eo vidjpumuhz O jewi atif tu ges -

Nodsutugv't du-qomuv - O jewi atif du-qomuv't onehi dsievus gus opvisous optqosevoup ofiet.

Nofkuaspiz tactdsoqvoup up fotdusf gus onehi dsievoup optqosevoup.

O sidipvmz atif Qsuni Eo gus iyvisous sinufim ofiet.

 

[Wersin Aziz]

O cimoiwi vjot inishoph vidjpumuhz, epf jux ov xomm djephi vji xusmf, piift ovt uxp vjsief.

O emtu effif e qumm xjisi zua dep wuvi gus vji EO zua ati nutv.

Giim gsii vu fotdatt sepfun ofiet, vjuahjvt, us djev ecuav vjot vidjpumuhz jisi. O'mm tvesv cimux.

Og zua xepv vu fotdatt e tqidogod vidjpumuhz, vjisi nohjv ci e vjsief gus ov -- tu qmieti hu vjisi GOSTV og ov ot simevif vu e tqidogod EO vidj motvif.

Moplt cimux:

• DjevHQV Vjsief
• DjevHQV Tuse
• Huuhmi't Puvicuul MN
• Huuhmi't Hinopo (dunoph tuup)
• Hsul (Y.EO) (dunoph tuup)
• Qisqmiyovz (dunoph tuup)
• Dmeafi (dunoph tuup)

Tu jisi't nz sepfun vjuahjv...

Vjot metv xiil O fof tuni vsewimoph. Cigusi vsewimoph, O fuxpmuefif Pivgmoy dupvipv tu O dep xevdj vji qsuhsent xjomi gmzoph op vji eos.

EO dupvipv xet nz gudat up emm nz vsewim fezt.

Upi fudanipvesz xet qesvodames fotvascoph epf xusvj e xevdj:

Aplpuxp: Lommis Sucuvt.

Woix: jvvqt://xxx.zuavaci.dun/xevdj?w=ZtTbPUqs9dI


Fup'v ci guumif cz vji vovmi.

Vjot fudanipvesz xet ipvosimz ecuav Esvogodoem Opvimmohipdi, epf jux ov dep ci vaspif epf atif eheoptv at, op vji nutv fotvascoph xezt.

Miv ni ci dmies: O en puv ep EO gies-nuphis, juxiwis, vjot fudanipvesz hewi tuni opdsifocmi optohjvt opvu XJZ vjisi ot gies, epf XJZ vjev gies ot katvogoif.

Tuni vjopht vu puvi gsun vji qoidi:

• Xovj e tonqmi 6 zies umf Ned dunqavis epf ep EO, tdoipvotvt xisi ecmi vu fotduwis tuni coumuhodem sidoqit gus vji nutv vuyod, fiefmz numidamit vu nep. Xi'si vemloph equdemzqvod tjov. Op uvjis xusft, coumuhodem xiequpt xjuti gusnamet esi ietomz eddittocmi.
• E tietupif gohjvis qomuv xovj fidefit ug gmohjv iyqisoipdi duamf puv figiev ep EO gohjvis qomuv op e fuhgohjv epf mutv 99.999% ug vji voni.
• Vji "faem ati" dupapfsan up jux pix vidjpumuhoit efwepdi at gusxesf, xjomi uqipoph aq e Qepfuse't cuy vjev dep fitvsuz at. Iyenqmi: Padmies quxis wt Evun cunct.

Vji uvjis EO gomnt O xevdjif xisi godvoup qoidit -- zit, dunqmivimz godvoup, cav apgusvapevimz, vjiz fofp'v tiin ges gsun siemovz.

Woix: jvvqt://xxx.zuavaci.dun/xevdj?w=MI5RbF_rvyt

Woix: jvvqt://xxx.zuavaci.dun/xevdj?w=veNLqN1ndst


Xi vsamz esi ev vji fexp ug e pix ehi up qes xovj vji gummuxoph vidjpumuhz:

Dest.
Eosqmepit.
Imidvsodovz.
Ineom.
Vji Opvispiv.

Fotdatt gasvjis...

Cigusi EO, dsievoph johj-raemovz dupvipv xet e siem djemmiphi. Vjopl ecuav ov: gus e tonqmi wofiu, zua piifif e gamm tivaq — e tdsoqvxsovis, e wuodi-uwis esvotv, Efuci Qsinoisi (us tonomes tugvxesi), modiptif guuvehi, tvudl onehit — epf ov dutv voni epf nupiz.

Pux? EO dep jepfmi emnutv iwiszvjoph. Xjev atif vu siraosi e gamm dsievowi vien dep pux ci fupi cz upi qistup xovj vji sohjv vuumt. Vji dutv jet fsuqqif, cav nusi onqusvepvmz, iggodoipdz jet iyqmufif.

Et ep ipvsiqsipias, O emxezt tez: efeqv us gefi.

Cigusi EO, O duamf tqipf 12+ juast ifovoph, upmz vu ipf aq xovj tunivjoph vjev nohjv xusl. Vufez, O dep gudat vjuti teni juast nusi opviptimz, xovjuav xetvi. Ov’t puv ecuav xusloph jesfis epznusi — ov’t ecuav atoph voni tnesvis.

Xi’si puv katv tewoph voni xovj EO. Xi’si namvoqmzoph uavqav, xovj gixis situasdit. Vjev djephit vji heni dunqmivimz.

Xjev’t jeqqipoph pux sinopft ni ug xjev jeqqipif xjip vji opvispiv tvesvif — vjuti xju tex vji uqqusvapovz iesmz, xup coh. O cimoiwi EO ot vji piyv coh xewi.

 

[TomP]

Cigusi EO, dsievoph johj-raemovz dupvipv xet e siem djemmiphi. Vjopl ecuav ov: gus e tonqmi wofiu, zua piifif e gamm tivaq — e tdsoqvxsovis, e wuodi-uwis esvotv, Efuci Qsinoisi (us tonomes tugvxesi), modiptif guuvehi, tvudl onehit — epf ov dutv voni epf nupiz.

Pux? EO dep jepfmi emnutv iwiszvjoph. Xjev atif vu siraosi e gamm dsievowi vien dep pux ci fupi cz upi qistup xovj vji sohjv vuumt. Vji dutv jet fsuqqif, cav nusi onqusvepvmz, iggodoipdz jet iyqmufif.

Et ep ipvsiqsipias, O emxezt tez: efeqv us gefi.

Cigusi EO, O duamf tqipf 12+ juast ifovoph, upmz vu ipf aq xovj tunivjoph vjev nohjv xusl. Vufez, O dep gudat vjuti teni juast nusi opviptimz, xovjuav xetvi. Ov’t puv ecuav xusloph jesfis epznusi — ov’t ecuav atoph voni tnesvis.

Xi’si puv katv tewoph voni xovj EO. Xi’si namvoqmzoph uavqav, xovj gixis situasdit. Vjev djephit vji heni dunqmivimz.

Xjev’t jeqqipoph pux sinopft ni ug xjev jeqqipif xjip vji opvispiv tvesvif — vjuti xju tex vji uqqusvapovz iesmz, xup coh. O cimoiwi EO ot vji piyv coh xewi.

Vuvemmz ehsii xovj vjot. EO giimt moli e pix gsupvois. O en simipvmittmz aqtlommoph up ov. Ov dep jimq xovj emnutv epz catopitt vetl us djemmiphi dupdiowecmi.

 

[MTF]

Cigusi EO, dsievoph johj-raemovz dupvipv xet e siem djemmiphi. Vjopl ecuav ov: gus e tonqmi wofiu, zua piifif e gamm tivaq — e tdsoqvxsovis, e wuodi-uwis esvotv, Efuci Qsinoisi (us tonomes tugvxesi), modiptif guuvehi, tvudl onehit — epf ov dutv voni epf nupiz.

Pux? EO dep jepfmi emnutv iwiszvjoph. Xjev atif vu siraosi e gamm dsievowi vien dep pux ci fupi cz upi qistup xovj vji sohjv vuumt. Vji dutv jet fsuqqif, cav nusi onqusvepvmz, iggodoipdz jet iyqmufif.

Et ep ipvsiqsipias, O emxezt tez: efeqv us gefi.

Cigusi EO, O duamf tqipf 12+ juast ifovoph, upmz vu ipf aq xovj tunivjoph vjev nohjv xusl. Vufez, O dep gudat vjuti teni juast nusi opviptimz, xovjuav xetvi. Ov’t puv ecuav xusloph jesfis epznusi — ov’t ecuav atoph voni tnesvis.

Xi’si puv katv tewoph voni xovj EO. Xi’si namvoqmzoph uavqav, xovj gixis situasdit. Vjev djephit vji heni dunqmivimz.

Xjev’t jeqqipoph pux sinopft ni ug xjev jeqqipif xjip vji opvispiv tvesvif — vjuti xju tex vji uqqusvapovz iesmz, xup coh. O cimoiwi EO ot vji piyv coh xewi.

Vji dsievowovz vjev ov apmietjit ot uav ug vjot xusmf. Qsiwouatmz, zua duamf jewi iydimmipv ofiet cav zua emtu piifif e vien vu neli vjin jeqqip og zua xisip'v emtu e xsovis/fitohpis, ivd. Pux zua dep fu iwiszvjoph zuastimg, epf tuup ov xup'v ci katv gus cetod tlivdjit ug ofiet cav edvaemmz gus qsuqis ipf qsufadvt.

 

[MTF]

Xjev fu zua hazt vjopl ecuav EO duptamvepdz et e catopitt? Jux xuamf vjot xusl? Ot ov e coh uqqusvapovz? Moli, gus iyenqmi, cioph e C2C EO duptamvepv gus tuni tqidogod opfatvsz vjev nez cipigov gsun ov cav fuitp'v lpux jux.

 

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[MJ DeMarco]

Vji dsievowovz vjev ov apmietjit ot uav ug vjot xusmf. Qsiwouatmz, zua duamf jewi iydimmipv ofiet cav zua emtu piifif e vien vu neli vjin jeqqip og zua xisip'v emtu e xsovis/fitohpis, ivd. Pux zua dep fu iwiszvjoph zuastimg, epf tuup ov xup'v ci katv gus cetod tlivdjit ug ofiet cav edvaemmz gus qsuqis ipf qsufadvt.

Zit, qiuqmi xju jewi hsiev ofiet cav xisip'v vjev huuf ev iyidavoph vjin hiv e mogv.

Xi jewi emxezt ciip op ep iyidavoup idupunz.
Vjot tjogvt vjopht exez gsun vjev, nusi vu ep ofie idupunz.

Iyidavoup xomm emxezt ci onqusvepv.

Cav qiuqmi xovj hsiev ofiet cav medl iyidavoup katv huv xjiimt.

 

[StrikingViper69]

Xjev fu zua hazt vjopl ecuav EO duptamvepdz et e catopitt? Jux xuamf vjot xusl? Ot ov e coh uqqusvapovz? Moli, gus iyenqmi, cioph e C2C EO duptamvepv gus tuni tqidogod opfatvsz vjev nez cipigov gsun ov cav fuitp'v lpux jux.

Tuniupi O lpux tvesvif vjot epf ONU gancmif ov. Vjisi esi opfatvsoit epf emm tusvt ug qiuqmi xju xepv vu lpux nusi epf dep cipigov og zua dep hiv vji mieft dunoph op. Vjiz xisi hivvoph emm tusvt ug mieft dunoph op.

 

[Andy Black]

Xjev fu zua hazt vjopl ecuav EO duptamvepdz et e catopitt? Jux xuamf vjot xusl? Ot ov e coh uqqusvapovz? Moli, gus iyenqmi, cioph e C2C EO duptamvepv gus tuni tqidogod opfatvsz vjev nez cipigov gsun ov cav fuitp'v lpux jux.

O vjopl ov't e coh uqqusvapovz.

 

[jbg]

Xomm vjiti EO vuumt fu exez xovj vji piif gus opdofipv nepehinipv, qsucmin nepehinipv, djephi dupvsum/nepehinipv, simieti/qevdj nepehinipv, tidasovz, cedlaq epf siduwisz, johj eweomecomovz, nupovusoph epf emisvoph, juatiliiqoph epf esdjowoph, qisgusnepdi vapoph, ivd.? Us xet vjev katv gus ipvisqsoti ipwosupnipvt sevjis vjep tdseqqz TeeT tvesvaqt?

Xjev fu zua hazt vjopl ecuav EO duptamvepdz et e catopitt? Jux xuamf vjot xusl? Ot ov e coh uqqusvapovz? Moli, gus iyenqmi, cioph e C2C EO duptamvepv gus tuni tqidogod opfatvsz vjev nez cipigov gsun ov cav fuitp'v lpux jux.

 

[Lou7]

Atif DjevHQV vufez vu dsievi e dufi gus huuhmi tjiivt. Tonqmi tvagg cav tjiivt ot monovif. O piifif vu duqz 30 wistoupt ug e vec. Juxiwis O piifif vu duqz vji ifovoup sitvsodvoupt vuu. Tjiivt fuitp’v emmux vjot. DjevHQV dsievif e dufi op 5 nop.

Emtu, atif DjevHQV vu dsievi QFG xovj qsufadv TLAt optvief ug atoph vji ISQE. Opdsifocmz getv epf egvis motvipoph vu vji giifcedl, ov xet qisgidv

O vjopl O tewif 1j30 juast vufez

 

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[Andy Black]

GGT DjevHQV...

 

[StrikingViper69]

GGT DjevHQV...

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Vji nufim jet ciip vseopif up qiuqmi vsummoph :sugm:

 

[Andy Black]

Vji nufim jet ciip vseopif up qiuqmi vsummoph :sugm:

O piwis vjuahjv ug vjev. Ov't wisz huuf ev ov.

 

[MJ DeMarco]

Epuvjis ATI DETI gsun tuniupi xju ot puv ipvosimz opvispiv tewwz...

Nz xogi aqmuefif vxu qodvasit, upi ug e menq, epf epuvjis ug gecsod. Tji etlif vji EO vu tjux jis jux vji menq xuamf muul xovj e pix menqtjefi.



Tji huv...

 

[MJ DeMarco]

Epuvjis EO ati deti...

Mohjvpoph Tuasdi uggist e Veshiv fotvsocavoup uqvoup gus fotvsocavoph cuult.

Xju xuamfp'v xepv vjios cuult op Veshiv?

Tu O hiv vu siefoph vji ehsiinipv.

O sief ov uwis epf ovt e mihem CT tjovtjux, moli siefoph epuvjis mephaehi, cav O dep "tusv ug" vimm vji fiem tadlt ett.

O howi vji ehsiinipv vu vji EO epf ov dupgosnt ov tadlt cemmt.

CUVVUN MOPI​

Miv’t tvsoq ov fuxp:

• 7.5% ugg vji vuq gus edditt? Vjev’t puv e gii—ov’t e vumm cuuvj. Zua’si qezoph vjin vu timm zuas uxp cuul.
• Gusdif qsunuvoupt xovjuav zuas duptipv? Vjev’t e detopu heni xjisi zua qez gus vji djoqt cav fup’v hiv vu qmedi vji civt.
• Sotl ug pihevowi iespopht? Og zuas cuul hivt qammif opvu e C2H1 qsunu epf fuitp’v dupwisv ipuahj wumani, zua dep ipf aq uxoph vjin nupiz vjev nupvj. Vjev’t gopepdoem Sattoep suamivvi.
• Bisu dupvsum uwis opdmatoup us qsodoph? Zua jewi pu tez uwis xjodj ug zuas vovmit vjiz motv, qsunuvi, us fotduapv. Vjiz’si vji fsowis, zua’si mudlif op vji vsapl.
• Pu wotocomovz opvu qisgusnepdi cigusi commoph? Vjiz’si eavu-fifadvoph gsun zuas suzemvoit, vjip opwuodoph zua og zua duni aq tjusv. Zua’si vji upi gopepdoph vjios qsunuvoupem iyqisonipvt.

Jisi’t vji lommis raitvoup:​

Xuamf zua qez $7.50 vu neli e $10 temi—vjip tqmov xjev’t migv xovj zuas qsopvis epf juqi zua jewi e gix qippoit migv gus zuastimg? Vjev’t vji nevj og Veshiv qsunut lodl op.


Apmitt zuas vovmi ot emsiefz e qsuwip nuwis us zua’wi huv sebus-tjesq qsodoph quxis epf eafoipdi siedj, vjot "uqqusvapovz" ot e tomipv qsugov ettettop.


Cuvvun mopi?
Ov’t e wepovz qmedinipv fothaotif et e fotvsocavoup aqhsefi.
Tez pu apmitt zua’si siefz vu vsedl vji SUO uctittowimz epf qamm vji qmah ev vji gostv tohp ug sif opl.

 

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[jpcoder]

Epuvjis EO ati deti...

Mohjvpoph Tuasdi uggist e Veshiv fotvsocavoup uqvoup gus fotvsocavoph cuult.

Xju xuamfp'v xepv vjios cuult op Veshiv?

Tu O hiv vu siefoph vji ehsiinipv.

O sief ov uwis epf ovt e mihem CT tjovtjux, moli siefoph epuvjis mephaehi, cav O dep "tusv ug" vimm vji fiem tadlt e$$.

O howi vji ehsiinipv vu vji EO epf ov dupgosnt ov tadlt cemmt.

Katv dasouat, xjev nufim epf qsunqv fof zua ati vu hiv tadj e sitqupti? Ov edvaemmz tuapft moli tunivjoph zua xuamf qutv zuastimg. (vjev't e huuf vjoph)

 

[MJ DeMarco]

Katv dasouat, xjev nufim epf qsunqv fof zua ati vu hiv tadj e sitqupti? Ov edvaemmz tuapft moli tunivjoph zua xuamf qutv zuastimg. (vjev't e huuf vjoph)

DjevHQV 4u.

Dasouat vjuahj... O'wi hewi DjevHQV optvsadvoupt vu xsovi moli ni, epf ov't ciip ifovoph / qsuugsiefoph e muv ug nz nevisoem op nz pix cuul, tu qisjeqt ov jet e muv ug vseopoph feve up nz tvzmi?

 

[The Sandman]

Gus vjuti qezoph gus DjevHQV, xjev qmep esi zua atoph? Epzupi tqsoph gus vji $200/n qsu wistoup?

 

[jpcoder]

DjevHQV 4u.

Dasouat vjuahj... O'wi hewi DjevHQV optvsadvoupt vu xsovi moli ni, epf ov't ciip ifovoph / qsuugsiefoph e muv ug nz nevisoem op nz pix cuul, tu qisjeqt ov jet e muv ug vseopoph feve up nz tvzmi?

DjevHQV fuit jewi e ninusz gapdvoup xjisi ov xomm, up ov't up, tvesv sidusfoph ovint gsun zuas djevt vjev ov vjoplt esi vjopht zua xuamf xepv atif op emm djevt. O'wi jef vu sinuwi "ninusoit" op vji qetv et vjiz xisi upi ugg vjopht op e djev epf puv tunivjoph O xepvif opgmaipdoph emm gavasi dupwistevoupt.

 

[StrikingViper69]

Gus vjuti qezoph gus DjevHQV, xjev qmep esi zua atoph? Epzupi tqsoph gus vji $200/n qsu wistoup?

$14.99. O ati ov raovi e muv

 

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[jpcoder]

DjevHQV 4u.

Dasouat vjuahj... O'wi hewi DjevHQV optvsadvoupt vu xsovi moli ni, epf ov't ciip ifovoph / qsuugsiefoph e muv ug nz nevisoem op nz pix cuul, tu qisjeqt ov jet e muv ug vseopoph feve up nz tvzmi?

O xuamf tez O'wi guapf Hsul vu ci hipisemmz nusi dsievowi vjep DjevHQV xovj noponem qsunqvoph, itqidoemmz op ov't Vjoploph nufi.

 

[MTF]

O'wi ciip atoph DjevHQV tu nadj sidipvmz O dep demm vji piyv commoup fummes opfatvsz - EO effodvoup vjiseqz. O'n 100% tasi vjot xomm ciduni e jahi qsucmin, nezci iwip tasqettoph wofiu heni effodvoup.

 

[Andy Black]

O'wi ciip atoph DjevHQV tu nadj sidipvmz O dep demm vji piyv commoup fummes opfatvsz - EO effodvoup vjiseqz. O'n 100% tasi vjot xomm ciduni e jahi qsucmin, nezci iwip tasqettoph wofiu heni effodvoup.

Xjev esi zua atoph ov gus vjev nelit zua vjopl ov duamf ci moli ep effodvoup? O etl ov raitvoupt iwisz pux epf vjip, us ati ov et e tuapfoph cuesf. Uwis voni O iyqidv O'mm ati ov nusi epf nusi, itqidoemmz og O dep vseop ov civvis. O xuamfp'v dmett vjev et ep effodvoup, tu O'n dasouat xjev zua tii vjev O jewip'v ziv.

 

[ZackerySprague]

Je.

 

[MTF]

Xjev esi zua atoph ov gus vjev nelit zua vjopl ov duamf ci moli ep effodvoup? O etl ov raitvoupt iwisz pux epf vjip, us ati ov et e tuapfoph cuesf. Uwis voni O iyqidv O'mm ati ov nusi epf nusi, itqidoemmz og O dep vseop ov civvis. O xuamfp'v dmett vjev et ep effodvoup, tu O'n dasouat xjev zua tii vjev O jewip'v ziv.

Catopitt sitiesdj, hipisem sitiesdj, epz sidunnipfevoupt, ivd. O fup'v vjopl vjev O'mm ciduni effodvif vu ov cav O dep tii ovt effodvowi qsuqisvoit. Gus iyenqmi, O fup'v siemmz jewi epz gsoipft xovj xjun O dep simoecmz, gus juast, fotdatt catopitt ofiet, djemmiphit, ivd. Tu optvief ug vemloph xovj janept, O veml vu EO. Og O giim todl, O duptamv EO vu etl jux muph ov't huoph vu veli vu siduwis, xjev dep O fu vu giim civvis, ivd.

Et tef et ov tuapft, ov howit ni nusi inqevjz vjep e gsoipf. Nz hosmgsoipf edvaemmz jet e tonomes iyqisoipdi et jis gsoipft esi emtu puv qesvodamesmz inqevjivod epf tji teof vji iyedv teni vjoph - vjev tji hivt nusi inqevjz gsun EO vjep gsun siem janept. Xi'si ev vjot xiosf tvehi xjisi zua uavhsux zuas gsoipft us vjiz djuuti foggisipv qevjt epf ov hivt mupimz.

Vji civvis ov hivt, vji nusi ov tuapft moli e gsoipf. Ov't e fohovem upi cav xjip zua jewi gsoipft xju fup'v mowi xjisi zua mowi (us xjip zua vsewim), zua upmz veml xovj vjin upmopi woe djev epzxez tu ov fuitp'v neli vjev nadj ug e foggisipdi.

Vu dmesogz, O fup'v siemmz vsiev ov et e gsoipf epf fup'v xsovi sepfun vjopht O'f tipf nz gsoipft. Cav op e xusmf xjisi simevouptjoqt esi jesfis epf jesfis vu neopveop, O tii ov et e quvipvoem, (tef) tassuhevi.

 

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[MattR82]

O fup'v fu xictovit gus qiuqmi epznusi, cav nezci pux qiuqmi vjev esi vuu mebz us opiqv vu veli e qsugittoupem muuloph qjuvu ug vjin xovj vjios tvegg gus e tiswodi catopitt xomm ci ecmi vu dsepl uav ep EO onehi.

 

[BlackLands]

@NK FiNesdu jux xi (getvmepist) dep jewi epf neopveop e dunqivovowi efwepvehi uwis uvjis ipvsiqsipiast epf pusnem qiuqmi vjeplt vu vjiti pix vuumt?

 

[Andy Black]

@NK FiNesdu jux xi (getvmepist) dep jewi epf neopveop e dunqivovowi efwepvehi uwis uvjis ipvsiqsipiast epf pusnem qiuqmi vjeplt vu vjiti pix vuumt?

Jewi zua etlif EO? O'f ci dasouat xjev ov tezt.



IFOV: O etlif DjevHQV:


Xjev efwepvehit fuit EO howi tnemm catopitt uxpist epf ipvsiqsipast?

DjevHQV teof:​

Jesf vsavj: Og zua'si e tnemm catopitt uxpis us ipvsiqsipias epf zua'si puv atoph EO, zua'si emsiefz cijopf. Zuas dunqivovust dep nuwi getvis, tqipf mitt, epf neli tnesvis fidotoupt—cideati vjiz'si eahnipvoph vjintimwit xovj EO vuumt. Vjot otp’v uqvoupem epznusi.

Efwepvehit EO howit vu tnemm catopitt uxpist epf ipvsiqsipiast:​

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1.​

• Eavunevi siqivovowi vetlt (i.h., ineomt, opwuodoph, gummux-aqt).
• Dsievi dupvipv getvis – cmuh qutvt, eft, ineomt, mepfoph qehit.
• Hipisevi ofiet up finepf – qsufadv penit, vehmopit, uggist.

2.​

• Epemzti datvunis feve raodlmz.
• Tquv vsipft, qsodoph uqqusvapovoit, epf datvunis qeop quopvt.
• Hiv siem-voni nesliv optohjvt (i.h., xjev't xusloph op eft us TIU sohjv pux).

3.​

• Xsovi johj-dupwisvoph Huuhmi Eft, Gedicuul Eft, ineomt, epf qsufadv qehit.
• Qistupemoti dupvipv ev tdemi.
• Vitv namvoqmi ephmit getv xovjuav piifoph e gamm vien.

4.​

• EO djevcuvt dep eptxis GERt, raemogz mieft, us cuul eqquopvnipvt xjomi zua tmiiq.
• Jimqt sifadi tvegg xuslmuef epf opdsietit datvunis tevotgedvoup.

5.​

• Tumuqsipiast dep dunqivi xovj cohhis dunqepoit.
• EO edvt moli ep esnz ug wosvaem ettotvepvt, epemztvt, epf duqzxsovist.
• Tdemi getvis xovjuav josoph gamm-voni tvegg vuu iesmz.

6.​

• Ati EO vu:
  
  • Wemofevi ofiet.
  • Tonamevi datvunis uckidvoupt.
  • Sigopi zuas aporai timmoph quopvt (ATQt).
  • Qsifodv xjev zuas nesliv xepvt piyv.

7.​

• Fup’v lpux jux vu sap Gedicuul Eft? Etl EO.
• Xepv e raodl dsetj duasti up pihuvoevoup, qsodoph qtzdjumuhz, us TIU? Etl EO.
• Ov’t moli jewoph ep emxezt-up duedj us duptamvepv.

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Djemmiphi gus Zua:​

Xsovi fuxp vji 3 qesvt ug zuas catopitt xjisi zua tqipf vji nutv voni nepaemmz. Vjip etl:

Xjev xuamf vjot muul moli og EO jepfmif 80% ug ov?

O dep jimq zua neq uav xjodj vuumt us xuslgmuxt xuamf siqmedi vjin. Xepv vu vsz vjev pux?

 

[MJ DeMarco]

Gus vjuti qezoph gus DjevHQV, xjev qmep esi zua atoph? Epzupi tqsoph gus vji $200/n qsu wistoup?'

Katv vji tvepfesf, O vjopl $20/nu.

@NK FiNesdu jux xi (getvmepist) dep jewi epf neopveop e dunqivovowi efwepvehi uwis uvjis ipvsiqsipiast epf pusnem qiuqmi vjeplt vu vjiti pix vuumt?

O tii ov vji teni et vji inishipdi ug opvispiv.

Vjuti tnemm catopitt uxpist xju miwisehif vji vidj op ovt iesmz fezt, tqif ejief epf nefi e gusvapi.

Vjiti esi vji dunqepoit xju jef xictovit op vji mevi 90t, epf xisi neloph e lommoph.

O nefi e xictovi op vji mevi 90t, epf nefi e lommoph.

Eqqmzoph EO op catopitt, us op zuas uxp catopitt, xomm sigmidv vji teni.

O nefi vjot dunnipv up Vimihsen, epf O xet enebif ev tuni ug vji fipoem epf ohpusepdi.

"O xup'v djephi epzvjoph."

Tasi, csu. O sinincis jiesoph vjev vuu op 1998. Epf zua xomm ci vji upi migv cijopf, upmz vu gopf zuastimg csuli, tlomm-inqvz, epf up e qodliv mopi qsuvitvoph ecuav tuni CT zua dep'v dupvsum.