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<div class="bbWrapper">It&#039;s silly at this point to repeatedly apologize for participating in this market.<br /> <br /> But we&#039;re on an entrepreneurial forum and it has to be repeated ad nauseum that participating in the crypto market is not the same thing as owning and operating a business.<br /> <br /> With that said.<br /> <br /> If you want to participate and be opportunistic during opportunistic times, then do so with eyes wide open.<br /> <br /> Crypto markets are a lot like gambling, but not entirely. And not all coins are the same.<br /> <br /> In one way, BTC for instance, differs in that it offers an alternative store of value which is disconnected from central banking&#039;s inflationary operating system. <br /> <br /> In that way, it has almost 15 years of experience in showcasing it&#039;s performance against fiat.<br /> <br /> In that way, it is demonstrably useful.<br /> <br /> In that way, I will continue to experiment with owning it.<br /> <br /> If you want to buy, buy. If you don&#039;t, don&#039;t.<br /> <br /> You can buy the top of any market, and sell the bottom likewise. <br /> <br /> If you bought a bunch of inflated short-term rentals in Austin in 2021 and now you&#039;re upside down on your investment, is real-estate a scam?<br /> <br /> If in 2024 you&#039;re still seriously debating whether BTC is a scam or not depending on what part of the market cycle we&#039;re at, maybe you&#039;re not as clever as you think you are.</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 66764" data-quote="AceVentures" data-source="post: 1111094" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/community/goto/post?id=1111094" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-1111094">AceVentures said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> It&#039;s silly at this point to repeatedly apologize for participating in this market.<br /> <br /> But we&#039;re on an entrepreneurial forum and it has to be repeated ad nauseum that participating in the crypto market is not the same thing as owning and operating a business.<br /> <br /> With that said.<br /> <br /> If you want to participate and be opportunistic during opportunistic times, then do so with eyes wide open.<br /> <br /> Crypto markets are a lot like gambling, but not entirely. And not all coins are the same.<br /> <br /> In one way, BTC for instance, differs in that it offers an alternative store of value which is disconnected from central banking&#039;s inflationary operating system.<br /> <br /> In that way, it has almost 15 years of experience in showcasing it&#039;s performance against fiat.<br /> <br /> In that way, it is demonstrably useful.<br /> <br /> In that way, I will continue to experiment with owning it.<br /> <br /> If you want to buy, buy. If you don&#039;t, don&#039;t.<br /> <br /> You can buy the top of any market, and sell the bottom likewise.<br /> <br /> If you bought a bunch of inflated short-term rentals in Austin in 2021 and now you&#039;re upside down on your investment, is real-estate a scam?<br /> <br /> If in 2024 you&#039;re still seriously debating whether BTC is a scam or not depending on what part of the market cycle we&#039;re at, maybe you&#039;re not as clever as you think you are. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>Borderless finance itself is already a proven use case.<br /> <br /> In the worst case even if anyone thinks crypto is nothing more than a casino, casino is still a lucrative business.<br /> <br /> Crypto deserves more attention for business ideas rather than looking for the next 50x coin.</div>
 
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<div class="bbWrapper">Something to ponder:<br /> <br /> Microstrategy has a large enough market cap now that they could be listed on the S&amp;P500.<br /> <br /> If a Bitcoin ETF can propel the price of BTC in such a direction, imagine the effect of this..</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 64612" data-quote="Kevin88660" data-source="post: 1111095" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/community/goto/post?id=1111095" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-1111095">Kevin88660 said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> Borderless finance itself is already a proven use case.<br /> <br /> In the worst case even if you think crypto is nothing more than a casino, casino is still a lucrative business.<br /> <br /> Crypto deserves more attention for business ideas rather than looking for the next 50x coin. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> What I learned about DeFi from last cycle:<br /> <br /> Automated Market Makers in the form of Liquidity Pools is a genius concept. <br /> <br /> It&#039;s an efficient and useful design principle which kicks rent-seeking middle-management out from the value equation.<br /> <br /> DeFi tokens are absolutely useless outside of gambling - because the real value in AMMs is shared between the liquidity provider and the user.<br /> <br /> DeFi is real, is functional and has billions of dollars of liquidity to provide regulars folks like me and you access to international markets.<br /> <br /> <blockquote data-attributes="member: 17428" data-quote="EvanOkanagan" data-source="post: 1111097" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/community/goto/post?id=1111097" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-1111097">EvanOkanagan said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> Something to ponder:<br /> <br /> Microstrategy has a large enough market cap now that they could be listed on the S&amp;P500.<br /> <br /> If a Bitcoin ETF can propel the price of BTC in such a direction, imagine the effect of this.. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> So is buying Microstrategy stock at this point the same thing as buying a leveraged BTC position?<br /> <br /> I still feel queasy about Saylor&#039;s strategy - not sure how/if it blows up. <br /> <br /> He&#039;s got to de-lever at some point and distribute the profits.<br /> <br /> Right?</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper">At this point I view BTC as an insurance policy, like an equity or index option.<br /> <br /> With the national debt growing a $1T every 100 days, fiat money needs insurance. The USD has become trash because our political system (and the Fed backstopping it) is trash.<br /> <br /> For me, that is real estate, assets backed by tangibles, and even a little bit of BTC.<br /> <br /> The point of insurance is you pay it and don&#039;t expect a return. If it does return $$, then something has gone horribly wrong.</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 55234" data-quote="Antifragile" data-source="post: 1111089" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/community/goto/post?id=1111089" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-1111089">Antifragile said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> How is nobody talking about the first ever bridge from TradFi into BTC through the ETFs?<br /> <br /> Can you not see the volume of $USD flowing into these ETFs? They blew past gold and just about every single other ETF in record time. And show no signs of slowing.<br /> <br /> Yet somehow it’s AI is the new shiny rock?<br /> <br /> AI will go hand in hand with blockchain like it was love at first sight. That aside, the best price prediction for me comes from the Power Law<br /> <br /> $100k is in line with the typical market conditions, you add in the ETF bridge to the Wall Street and … next bubble will come <img src="/community/imgs/emoticons/em-wink.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-shortname=";)" />.<br /> <br /> <a href="https://www.thefastlaneforum.com/community/attachments/54576/" target="_blank">View attachment 54576</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>you are like all these youtubers <img src="/community/imgs/emoticons/em-wink.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-shortname=";)" /> <br /> why does nobody see that inflow...<br /> why does nobody see that bullflag...<br /> why does...<br /> <br /> of course everybody , who is a bit crypto related, sees that!<br /> <br /> or am I missing out of some hidden gem?</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 52069" data-quote="NewManRising" data-source="post: 1110883" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/community/goto/post?id=1110883" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-1110883">NewManRising said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> my predictions:<br /> BTC 100K ATH<br /> ETH 8K ATH<br /> SOL $500 ATH </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>and than? going to zero and dying?</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 1" data-quote="MJ DeMarco" data-source="post: 1111101" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/community/goto/post?id=1111101" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-1111101">MJ DeMarco said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> At this point I view BTC as an insurance policy, like an equity or index option.<br /> <br /> With the national debt growing a $1T every 100 days, fiat money needs insurance. The USD has become trash because our political system (and the Fed backstopping it) is trash.<br /> <br /> For me, that is real estate, assets backed by tangibles, and even a little bit of BTC.<br /> <br /> The point of insurance is you pay it and don&#039;t expect a return. If it does return $$, then something has gone horribly wrong. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>Insurence backuped by a casino? ok, works!</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 68394" data-quote="Ing" data-source="post: 1111104" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/community/goto/post?id=1111104" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-1111104">Ing said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> you are like all these youtubers <img src="/community/imgs/emoticons/em-wink.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-shortname=";)" /><br /> why does nobody see that inflow...<br /> why does nobody see that bullflag...<br /> why does...<br /> <br /> of course everybody , who is a bit crypto related, sees that!<br /> <br /> or am I missing out of some hidden gem? </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> What you may be missing is the history of GBTC. <br /> <br /> Grayscale has been “locked” investment and now people are running away, selling their bags from there. It’s crazy how much they have and how much they sold and keep selling! <br /> <br /> It’s even crazier to see that other ETFs more than absorbed it. <br /> <br /> So when will GBTC become irrelevant? What happens then? <br /> <br /> I’m not here to tell you what to do. I’ve had a private chat with a forum member on this forum and explained that even if I took my entire net worth in 2009 and dumped it into BTC, I still made more from my businesses!!! Let that sink in. <br /> <br /> Crypto for me is two things:<br /> 1) fun with the new tech<br /> 2) what <a href="https://www.thefastlaneforum.com/community/members/1/" class="username" data-xf-init="member-tooltip" data-user-id="1" data-username="@MJ DeMarco">@MJ DeMarco</a> said here about BTC<br /> <br /> <br /> <blockquote data-attributes="member: 1" data-quote="MJ DeMarco" data-source="post: 1111101" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/community/goto/post?id=1111101" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-1111101">MJ DeMarco said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> At this point I view BTC as an insurance policy, like an equity or index option.<br /> <br /> With the national debt growing a $1T every 100 days, fiat money needs insurance. The USD has become trash because our political system (and the Fed backstopping it) is trash.<br /> <br /> For me, that is real estate, assets backed by tangibles, and even a little bit of BTC.<br /> <br /> The point of insurance is you pay it and don&#039;t expect a return. If it does return $$, then something has gone horribly wrong. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> Bullseye. Same here.</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 55234" data-quote="Antifragile" data-source="post: 1111108" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/community/goto/post?id=1111108" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-1111108">Antifragile said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> What you may be missing is the history of GBTC.<br /> <br /> Grayscale has been “locked” investment and now people are running away, selling their bags from there. It’s crazy how much they have and how much they sold and keep selling!<br /> <br /> It’s even crazier to see that other ETFs more than absorbed it.<br /> <br /> So when will GBTC become irrelevant? What happens then?<br /> <br /> I’m not here to tell you what to do. I’ve had a private chat with a forum member on this forum and explained that even if I took my entire net worth in 2009 and dumped it into BTC, I still made more from my businesses!!! Let that sink in.<br /> <br /> Crypto for me is two things:<br /> 1) fun with the new tech<br /> 2) what <a href="https://www.thefastlaneforum.com/community/members/1/" class="username" data-xf-init="member-tooltip" data-user-id="1" data-username="@MJ DeMarco">@MJ DeMarco</a> said here about BTC<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> Bullseye. Same here. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>I ve read about that GBTC many times, yes.<br /> <br /> Btw, these ETFs are an USA thing. in the rest of the world BTC ETFs already existed.<br /> But its astonishing, how this big US money influences the market.<br /> On the other hand, last cycle, in 2020, the BTC price was smashed down by the Covid thing. without that down jump, we would have been at the same level as today.<br /> <br /> Imo the money you make with cryptos, is no easy money. I ve seen so many ppl just loosing money. I think, its the same as with business. Without the knowledge you won t get any up.<br /> <br /> I myself have made with cryptos multiple times the money I did with any business the last years. But I must admit, regarding business , you are another league.<br /> <br /> The comparison with the youtubers shouldn `t offend you, I just had to smile, when reading it.<br /> <br /> edith: I shouldn`t write in a crypto thread, sorry. I m out.</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 68394" data-quote="Ing" data-source="post: 1111112" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/community/goto/post?id=1111112" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-1111112">Ing said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> I myself have made with cryptos multiple times the money I did with any business the last years. But I must admit, regarding business , you are another league </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> Don’t misunderstand me please. I do well in business, but I’m no “big fish” either. My point was that just about any business that meets CENTS to some decent degree will all but guarantee you millions in profits. You can’t make that in crypto because no one knows the next “big thing” and it’s a bit like gambling with bad odds. Business odds are fundamentally so in your favour that it’s 100x easier to make 10,000% return on investment in your business (precisely because you don’t need to get lucky!). <br /> <br /> Hope this makes sense. <br /> <br /> Also, my example isn’t as good as it may seem on first blush. I had so little in 2009 that it was a low bar lol. <img src="/community/imgs/emoticons/em-smile2.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-shortname=":)" /></div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 64612" data-quote="Kevin88660" data-source="post: 1111092" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/community/goto/post?id=1111092" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-1111092">Kevin88660 said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> I was checking google trend.<br /> <br /> Searches for AI was ballooning.<br /> <br /> Searches for crypto and bitcoin was only a fraction of what it had been in 2021.<br /> <br /> But indeed this is just my speculation.<br /> <br /> If institutional money went into etf then it does not show up in google searches proportionately. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>Google trend being low should be a signal that the price is going to go higher. The price is currently high and the trend is still low, as the trend increases to and past prior levels as interest in it builds up again so should the price. <br /> <br /> If ai has any impact hopefully all the scammers are busy making ai bs this time around rather than making shitcoins and nfts, I doubt it though</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 22018" data-quote="MitchC" data-source="post: 1111152" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/community/goto/post?id=1111152" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-1111152">MitchC said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> Google trend being low should be a signal that the price is going to go higher. The price is currently high and the trend is still low, as the trend increases to and past prior levels as interest in it builds up again so should the price.<br /> <br /> If ai has any impact hopefully all the scammers are busy making ai bs this time around rather than making shitcoins and nfts, I doubt it though </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> Yeh and the fear and greed index is extended but last time that happened BTC still rallied 3X further.<br /> <br /> There are many times when we seen a pullback when it was this extended also.<br /> <br /> Still should be cautious though, and be objective about the fact we are extended already.</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 57545" data-quote="Timmy C" data-source="post: 1111043" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/community/goto/post?id=1111043" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-1111043">Timmy C said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> Save your breath. The guys not smart enough to invest in crypto as he doesn&#039;t understand it, (his words not mine) yet in the same breath says he is 100% sure its a scam. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>also ..doesn&#039;t understand technologies but his all in in NVIDIA <img src="/community/imgs/emoticons/em-rofl.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":rofl:" title="ROFL :rofl:" data-shortname=":rofl:" /></div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 1" data-quote="MJ DeMarco" data-source="post: 1111101" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/community/goto/post?id=1111101" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-1111101">MJ DeMarco said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> At this point I view BTC as an insurance policy, like an equity or index option.<br /> <br /> With the national debt growing a $1T every 100 days, fiat money needs insurance. The USD has become trash because our political system (and the Fed backstopping it) is trash.<br /> <br /> For me, that is real estate, assets backed by tangibles, and even a little bit of BTC.<br /> <br /> The point of insurance is you pay it and don&#039;t expect a return. If it does return $$, then something has gone horribly wrong. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>MJ, being smart money, would purchase $10,000,000s+ worth of BTC in one go in the near future. Despite being late to the party , his primary goal is to protect his wealth. Once he executes his purchase , other businesses, HNWI, etc will likely come to the same realization, pushing the price of BTC to the moon. BTC price would melt brains again.<br /> <br /> He has come to the realization that only BTC is the real deal, unlike shitcoins, alts, crypto, blockchain- all scams! USD\ fiat- the biggest scam of all! <br /> <br /> He will go ALL IN on BTC. <br /> His orange pill moment is coming sooner that he realize. He will be fully Unscripted only then.<br /> <br /> Unfortunately, the average dude with no assets in their name will experience a breakdown, mega rekt !! Those who are currently wealthy in dollars $ terms would see their fortunes go down the toilet as well! The hyperinflation would kill them as instantly. You will be too scared to act accordingly by that time.<br /> <br /> It sends shivers down my spine just thinking about the day when I&#039;ll read MJ&#039;s post about his mega purchase and realize that so many people will enter a zombie-like state on this forum.<br /> <br /> BTC is not..<br /> a trade<br /> a capital allocation,<br /> an investment,<br /> a diversification,<br /> a technology,<br /> a project,<br /> a toy,<br /> a curiosity to play with.<br /> You will be mega rekt! As we can see so many people having meltdown here on this forum all the time. This is only the beginning. <br /> <br /> BTC is a tool for freedom and power. <br /> <br /> The all financial world is rebuilding on BTC network as we speak.<br /> <br /> BTW, real estate got cheaper again for me in 2024. Guess why?<br /> <br /> But, everyone can do whatever the f@ck they want.</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 17428" data-quote="EvanOkanagan" data-source="post: 1111175" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/community/goto/post?id=1111175" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-1111175">EvanOkanagan said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> Bitcoin ATH in USD tomorrow. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> The guru has spoken.</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 17428" data-quote="EvanOkanagan" data-source="post: 1111175" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/community/goto/post?id=1111175" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-1111175">EvanOkanagan said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> Bitcoin ATH in USD tomorrow. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>Guru is about to get crowned.</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 17428" data-quote="EvanOkanagan" data-source="post: 1111175" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/community/goto/post?id=1111175" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-1111175">EvanOkanagan said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> Bitcoin ATH in USD tomorrow. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> The all-time high for Bitcoin in USD is $68,789.77, which was reached on November 10, 2021. However, considering the inflation since then, the equivalent ATH in today&#039;s value would be around $78,000 USD.<br /> <br /> Today was the 2nd biggest volume trading day for the spot BTC ETFs.<br /> <br /> The ETFs are holding about $20B right now.<br /> <br /> The Stanford Endowment has bought Bitcoin and Bitcoin is now ~7% of the portfolio.<br /> <br /> <blockquote data-attributes="member: 57545" data-quote="Timmy C" data-source="post: 1111274" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/community/goto/post?id=1111274" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-1111274">Timmy C said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> Guru is about to get crowned. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> Yes, we are just a few hundred bucks away. <br /> <br /> The last time it was at this level, Fed rate was about 0.25% and now it&#039;s ... 5.25%.. different, isn&#039;t? <br /> <br /> Unreal.</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper">Boom <br /> <br /> Finally! <br /> .<br /> .<br /> .<br /> <br /> I’m no longer losing money on my BTC buys. Yeah! Fastlane…. <br /> <br /> <br /> <img src="/community/imgs/emoticons/em-rofl.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":rofl:" title="ROFL :rofl:" data-shortname=":rofl:" /></div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 55569" data-quote="Jadpapi" data-source="post: 1111039" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/community/goto/post?id=1111039" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-1111039">Jadpapi said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> Can you explain what exactly the technology behind crypto, and what problem does it solve? </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><a href="https://www.amazon.com/dp/1794326316/?tag=tff-amazonparser-20" target="_blank" class="link link--external" rel="noopener">This book is a great primer</a>, for Bitcoin anyways.</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper">Finally my first $1 in the green. Gonna leave to choose lambo colour.</div>
 
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<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 57545" data-quote="Timmy C" data-source="post: 1111317" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/community/goto/post?id=1111317" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-1111317">Timmy C said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> <div class="bbOembed bbMediaJustifier" data-media-site-id="twitter" data-media-key="1764874969878589569" data-xf-init="oembed" data-provider="twitter" data-id="1764874969878589569"> <a href="https://twitter.com/x/status/1764874969878589569" rel="external" target="_blank"><i class="fa--xf fab fa-twitter fa-twitter-square "><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" role="img" aria-hidden="true" ><use href="/community/data/local/icons/brands.svg?v=1749395433#twitter"></use></svg></i> https://twitter.com/x/status/1764874969878589569</a> </div><i><span style="font-size: 10px"><a href="https://twitter.com/intocryptoverse/status/1764874969878589569?t=qSypX39j4mzIHjl5uXQBhA&amp;s=19" target="_blank" class="link link--external" rel="nofollow ugc noopener">View: https://twitter.com/intocryptoverse/status/1764874969878589569?t=qSypX39j4mzIHjl5uXQBhA&amp;s=19</a></span></i> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>The only question is do we sell now and buy the pullback and then ride it to the moon?<br /> <br /> Or do we not risk there being no pullback and just ride it to the moon?</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 22018" data-quote="MitchC" data-source="post: 1111319" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/community/goto/post?id=1111319" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-1111319">MitchC said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> The only question is do we sell now and buy the pullback and then ride it to the moon?<br /> <br /> Or do we not risk there being no pullback and just ride it to the moon? </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> I&#039;m just gonna hold to be honest.</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper">From the point of view now, it seems , that the covid thing actually had a big negative influence on the crypto space. We are near ath much earlier than in the last cycle.<br /> Could be the ETF thing, too.<br /> <blockquote data-attributes="member: 57545" data-quote="Timmy C" data-source="post: 1111317" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/community/goto/post?id=1111317" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-1111317">Timmy C said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> <div class="bbOembed bbMediaJustifier" data-media-site-id="twitter" data-media-key="1764874969878589569" data-xf-init="oembed" data-provider="twitter" data-id="1764874969878589569"> <a href="https://twitter.com/x/status/1764874969878589569" rel="external" target="_blank"><i class="fa--xf fab fa-twitter fa-twitter-square "><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" role="img" aria-hidden="true" ><use href="/community/data/local/icons/brands.svg?v=1749395433#twitter"></use></svg></i> https://twitter.com/x/status/1764874969878589569</a> </div><i><span style="font-size: 10px"><a href="https://twitter.com/intocryptoverse/status/1764874969878589569?t=qSypX39j4mzIHjl5uXQBhA&amp;s=19" target="_blank" class="link link--external" rel="nofollow ugc noopener">View: https://twitter.com/intocryptoverse/status/1764874969878589569?t=qSypX39j4mzIHjl5uXQBhA&amp;s=19</a></span></i> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>didn`t find that for 2017. you?</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 22018" data-quote="MitchC" data-source="post: 1111319" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/community/goto/post?id=1111319" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-1111319">MitchC said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> The only question is do we sell now and buy the pullback and then ride it to the moon?<br /> <br /> Or do we not risk there being no pullback and just ride it to the moon? </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>Your planning implements believing into repetation of history. The only way we can do.<br /> So 2023 was so much different to 2019 (cost me some money because of that), that I don`t dare to sell now and wait for a pullback.<br /> The other question is: where was really a pullback in 2020 other than the Covid swan pullback?</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper">We are officially in the bubble … how do I know?<br /> <br /> 1. This thread is talking again daily <br /> 2. crypto pop song?! <br /> <div class="bbOembed bbMediaJustifier" data-media-site-id="twitter" data-media-key="1765005184286040532" data-xf-init="oembed" data-provider="twitter" data-id="1765005184286040532"> <a href="https://twitter.com/x/status/1765005184286040532" rel="external" target="_blank"><i class="fa--xf fab fa-twitter fa-twitter-square "><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" role="img" aria-hidden="true" ><use href="/community/data/local/icons/brands.svg?v=1749395433#twitter"></use></svg></i> https://twitter.com/x/status/1765005184286040532</a> </div></div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 55234" data-quote="Antifragile" data-source="post: 1111340" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/community/goto/post?id=1111340" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-1111340">Antifragile said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> We are officially in the bubble … how do I know?<br /> <br /> 1. This thread is talking again daily<br /> 2. crypto pop song?!<br /> <div class="bbOembed bbMediaJustifier" data-media-site-id="twitter" data-media-key="1765005184286040532" data-xf-init="oembed" data-provider="twitter" data-id="1765005184286040532"> <a href="https://twitter.com/x/status/1765005184286040532" rel="external" target="_blank"><i class="fa--xf fab fa-twitter fa-twitter-square "><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" role="img" aria-hidden="true" ><use href="/community/data/local/icons/brands.svg?v=1749395433#twitter"></use></svg></i> https://twitter.com/x/status/1765005184286040532</a> </div> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> My brother texted me today and said &quot;do you still own bitcoin?!&quot;<br /> <br /> People are starting to take notice again.</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 55234" data-quote="Antifragile" data-source="post: 1111340" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/community/goto/post?id=1111340" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-1111340">Antifragile said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> We are officially in the bubble … how do I know?<br /> <br /> 1. This thread is talking again daily<br /> 2. crypto pop song?!<br /> <div class="bbOembed bbMediaJustifier" data-media-site-id="twitter" data-media-key="1765005184286040532" data-xf-init="oembed" data-provider="twitter" data-id="1765005184286040532"> <a href="https://twitter.com/x/status/1765005184286040532" rel="external" target="_blank"><i class="fa--xf fab fa-twitter fa-twitter-square "><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" role="img" aria-hidden="true" ><use href="/community/data/local/icons/brands.svg?v=1749395433#twitter"></use></svg></i> https://twitter.com/x/status/1765005184286040532</a> </div> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>That isn&#039;t my kind of music but wow if that wasn&#039;t better than 99% of things on the radio these days. This is the &quot;skater boy&quot; of this generation.</div>
 

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