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Discussion in 'Progress/Execution Threads' started by cynabyte, Nov 29, 2007.

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    Something that I've been thinking about (and then was talked about in the RDPD Choose to be Rich Program)

    is that most people want to know "how" to be rich, yet it seems to me no one really wants to tell you exactly "how" to be rich :wtf:, and the point RDPD made is that you can tell some exactly how to be rich but they will always be looking for an easier way to become rich (this maybe why I feel no one really tells you exactly how to be rich (well that and there really is no one way ))

    so the right question to be asking is "WHY" be rich

    what is the motivation? ironically money isn't a good answer :wtf: because it's too easy to earn money so going through the hardship of acquiring money is the road less traveled

    So "Why be Rich?"


    < I'll be posting some of my reasons soon >
     
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    Time is the answer.

    Time for being with your loved ones
    Time for learning new things, not repeating the same ones all day long at work
    Time for thinking and viewing things in perspective
    Time for yourself
    Time for having fun
    Time...
     
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    Do you mean how you will spend/are spending your money? No matter what the answer, the bottom line will always be money. I don't mean to sound harsh, but find me one person who will say, "I want to be rich just to know I'm rich and that I COULD if I wanted to." That's like someone buying a high horsepower, exotic sports car and saying, "I don't speed in my car, I just like knowing I have the power." I say HORSEPOOH to that! That gray top knows on a straight road with no one around he will give into the deamon pushing on his right foot and test out the car's power. Just like that businessman, real estate investor, day trader, e-entrepreneur, or lottery winner making millions of dollar won't stay in that 1200 sq/ft starter home or keep driving that beater car. They may not live an extravagent and lavish lifestyle, but they WILL spend their MONEY for a more comfortable one. And there is NOTHING wrong with that.

    Getting rich in a legal and ethical way is not about greed, it is about supporting a lifestyle you desire and deserve, which in turn costs money.

    Personally, I want to get rich so I can:

    1. Support my family
    2. Support my friends
    3. Support my community
    4. Visit my family
    5. Visit and party with my friends
    6. Have a nice stable of cars/bikes
    7. Have a comfortable house(nothing HUGE)
    8. Travel the world
     
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    Life is too short to be strapped to a desk, filling out memo's and taking s#%@ from an unappreciative boss.
    I want to live the good life. Meaning, I will do what I want, when I want, and with who I want, regardless of the price. I also want to be able to provide for my family and friends so they too can experience abundance. I guess it all boils down to freedom.
     
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    The thing that is most appealing about wealth is that if treated with responsibility, it will rid your life of limitations in terms of time and money.
     
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    Jorge,

    I applaud you! That has got to be one of the most profound statements I have heard in a long, long time if you think it through.

    Time is the only thing we can't create, add to or change in any way. When the 24 hours in today are over they are OVER!

    Use them well.

    Eric
     
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    Who says you have to be rich to have time and to get away from nagging bosses and paperwork? I have quite a few friends who love their jobs and are able to create a comfortable lifestyle off $40-50K a year, some working less than 40 hour weeks.

    One works only 3 days a week as a part time truck driver and makes an average full time pay. He LOVES his job, he says he feels so free and fortunate to get out on the road and meet new people, but he also has more time to spend with his family. He is far from rich...but he is very wealthy.
     
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    having the resources to focus on your passions, not career advancement
     
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    I'm sure that 3 day a week job is going to be a lifelong career. Things tend to change. Management changes, rules change jobs come and go for many. Many people claim to love their jobs. It is a mindset that is required to be able to cope with the need. If money wasn't needed, why would someone get up and go to work? Only if they truly did love their work. I could certainly think of a lot of things to do other than go make money for someone else.

    There is nothing better than a person being able to decide how their day/week/year is going to go. What vacations to plan, charities to work with, family to see... Work can be done if you wish, not out of need to survive.
     
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    Wrong... There is more than enough information out there. It is not that difficult in my opinion. I have been telling people for years and have watched a select few begin their path. It only took me 3 years from the day my plan was implemented until the day I quit my job.
     
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    There is only one thing I can say about this comment...

    :slow:
     
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    Part of this I agree with. Lets not forget that there ARE people out there that do love their job working for somebody else. Yes, some people may claim they love their job as an excuse to cope with their depression of blue collar work or white collar desk job. But I KNOW there are jobs out there for me that I would absolutely love and be completely fulfilled with. That is why I'm in school now, worse-comes-to-worse I will end up with a job that I love doing.

    As far as my truck driver buddy. You have a point, his job probably isn't guaranteed. He has been with this company for quite a while, but I won't get into all that. My point is I feel you DONT have to be rich to have time.

    This is true, but I go back to my original post. This all comes down to the bottom line of money. If you have enough money, you don't need to work the next week, so you plan what you're going to do. You have TIME to go on a vacation only because you have the MONEY to spend on it. You have the money to work with a charity. You have the money to take time off and visit family.
     
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    What do you mean by this?
     
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    This is what I mean.
     
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    This is the definition of fastlane. Why WOULDN'T someone want to live this way?

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    And, I want these people working for me!

    I had an incredible job at HP and spent 19 years there. I had flexibility to take time off and had 1.5 hour workouts at lunch. I felt like I had the dream job until I realized one day. I still needed to get up almost every morning. I still needed to do all the nosense garbage that my boss wonted me to do. I still had to fight traffic.

    I could not go back to work now. Once you get a taste of freedom, it is hard to look back. I still remember vividly, the look on my bosses face when I said I was leaving. People just didn't leave this company on their own!!!


    How can you do this if you have a job? Obviously you get a generous vacation package with some companies. That is not the same as having freedom to choose what you want to do.
     
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    I want to be rich for the same reasons as everyone else to be able to provide for my family and to have time, and do whatever I want with it. When you're in the fastlane, you can decide that you want to go on vacation, and a week later DO IT. No need to take off a certain time of year so that it doesn't conflict with your coworkers' vacation time.
     
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    i think it's been said already in so many words, the choice of FREEDOM over false security (job). i dont have a problem with people loving their job. i just wish they would know what they are up against putting in those long 40 hours/40 years. i find it amazing that people our parents age are barely making it now and they had less debt than our generation do. what's gonna happen when this generation gets that age?

    this may start controversy but i agree with the statement i heard someone make..."your not truly free unless your economically free!"
     
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    I wrestle with this question all the time...especially now that I have a solid understanding of what the fastlane is. The fast track, and even more so- the fastlane is a mindset. Why people don't want to live this way is because they haven't embraced (and don't understand) the mindset. For most people, the thought of creating financial freedom is synonomous with greed, and greed is bad. I get crap all the time from friends and my husband who don't understand my drive for financial freedom. I hear, "Life's not all about money", blah, blah, blah. Now granted, I know that these cliche responses are just thrown out because it's easier to say something trite than it is to examine one's current world view. ...My response is generally that living a good life has NOTHING to do with money so why in the hell would I want to work 40 hours a week for it?! The same people that are telling me money isn't important are working overtime and missing family events because of it...so if money's not important, but you're willing to miss birthdays- then family must be really unimportant!
    :rant:
     
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    This is me, I earn more than 40k a year (In my currency, but the lifestyle its the same)
    I work 4 hours a day, 2 weeks a month. So I have 1 week of work and 1 of vacation,
    and my boss is really good with me...

    Dream job? I don't think so...This could change anytime. The boss can change, the gov can make a downsize...anything!

    Im not in charge here. This is definitely NOT fastlane.

    BTW, Thanks encsteph! It seems obvious, but took me 25 years to open my eyes!
     
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    What he means is that this website it's not intended for posting about slow ways to make money or the traditional "work hard, save 10%, and retire when your old" mentality, just as the link suggested.

    It may sound harsh to get a post labeled "slow-lane", but if we don't stick to fast-lane principles, this forum could turn into another place to talk about jobs - rather than getting wealthy in a way that true entrepreneurs do. Too many forums are full of tire-kickers and time wasters who don't actually take action.

    Fast-lane is just that - fast lane. I won't argue that some love their jobs - may God Bless them. But this isn't the place to discuss that. This is a place to share strategies of ways to build wealth FAST using principles of leverage. Remember, only 1% of the population is RICH. Thinking like the rest of the 99% will most likely heed you the same results. We must me adamant about staying on the course to wealth or we may fall too closely into the trap of the 99%...
     
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    This comment wasn't from having any type of job, that was my argument on being rich. Like I said in my first post, the reason people want to be rich is simply the MONEY. If you have enough money, you can take off the time you want..but the focus on being rich still comes down to money.

    This is all I've been trying to say.
     
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    :smxG: Excellent post - couldn't agree more. I also think that most people think they have to control everything - as in work hard or self-employed at best. Most never take themselves out of the picture and see the value in creating systems to WORK FOR THEM, rather then them WORKING FOR MONEY.

    To me that's where the mindset really gets me is this... Why become a specialist in anything other learning how to create systems to be WORKING FOR YOU. :idx:

    Or what about someone who does a job they hate to pay the bills - slave to money? I think soo... Then they think that entrepreneurs do it only for the money :coco:...
     
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    [ The same people that are telling me money isn't important are working overtime and missing family events because of it...


    This is so true. They don't get it. It is important. Money is needed for survival in our culture. Some people want or need more than others. It's often the ones who say its not important that are working harder and longer for less of it. How much sense does that make? You almost want to say "If money is not important than why are you working long and hard days at your crappy job for so little of it?" I have some family members that fit this description. "Money is not important" is an excuse for their lack of productivity.
     
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    I understand the "SLOW" label now. I only felt that a previous comment had the meaning of "No one loves their job, they just claim they do." sense.

    If you are a business owner and you think this is the way all your employees feel about working for YOU...do you think they are going to do their best job in making you money?

    If you can make your employees happy and proud to work for you, they will make you happy and proud in return.

    ANYWAY, it seems that I am getting off subject.
     

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