Time to Get Organized

[Jonleehacker]

<div class="bbWrapper">So I was doing a little spring cleaning, figured I stack up all this loose paper I was finding around the condo...<br /> <br /> <script class="js-extraPhrases" type="application/json"> { "lightbox_close": "Close", "lightbox_next": "Next", "lightbox_previous": "Previous", "lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.", "lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow", "lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow", "lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen", "lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails", "lightbox_download": "Download", "lightbox_share": "Share", "lightbox_zoom": "Zoom", "lightbox_new_window": "New window", "lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar" } </script> <div class="bbImageWrapper js-lbImage" title="f110-1.jpg" data-src="/community/proxy.php?image=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.blogcdn.com%2Fwww.urlesque.com%2Fmedia%2F2010%2F03%2Ff110-1.jpg&amp;hash=75242ca2f98e91ab2456f643409b7442" data-lb-sidebar-href="" data-lb-caption-extra-html="" data-single-image="1"> <img src="/community/proxy.php?image=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.blogcdn.com%2Fwww.urlesque.com%2Fmedia%2F2010%2F03%2Ff110-1.jpg&amp;hash=75242ca2f98e91ab2456f643409b7442" data-url="http://www.blogcdn.com/www.urlesque.com/media/2010/03/f110-1.jpg" class="bbImage" data-zoom-target="1" style="" alt="f110-1.jpg" title="" width="" height="" loading="lazy" /> </div></div>

 

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[Russ H]

<div class="bbWrapper">Amazing pic.<br /> <br /> As a guy who has held $200,000 cash in his hands (takes less space then you&#039;d think), I looked at this for a long time.<br /> <br /> Any idea how the photo was made?<br /> <br /> -Russ H.</div>

 

[Jonleehacker]

<div class="bbWrapper">It&#039;s real, it was recovered in the home of a drug lord.<br /> <br /> $200,000,000 there!</div>

 

[Rem]

<div class="bbWrapper">Wow! I&#039;ll just take one stack. Heck nobody would know.<br /> <br /> <img src="/community/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/tiphat.gif" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":tiphat:" title="Tip Hat :tiphat:" data-shortname=":tiphat:" /></div>

 

[Russ H]

<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="" data-quote="Jonleehacker" data-source="post: 125470" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/community/goto/post?id=125470" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-125470">Jonleehacker said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> It&#039;s real, it was recovered in the home of a drug lord.<br /> <br /> $200,000,000 there! </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> Wow. U. F. B.<br /> <br /> -Russ H.</div>

 

[Russ H]

<div class="bbWrapper">Hey, wait a minute.<br /> <br /> $200 mil can make a serious dent in the national budget of some countries. <br /> <br /> Was this inside the US, or out?<br /> <br /> (and if it was inside, where does money like this go?!?)<br /> <br /> -Russ H.</div>

 

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[Russ H]

<div class="bbWrapper">More thots . . .<br /> <br /> If my count is correct, each of those piles (if it goes all the way to the ground) is about $500,000.00<br /> <br /> So (again, based on my limited experience), these are not all $100 bills.<br /> <br /> OR-- it&#039;s not full height-- something else is underneath.<br /> <br /> -Russ H.</div>

 

[PaulRobert]

<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="" data-quote="Russ H" data-source="post: 125483" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/community/goto/post?id=125483" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-125483">Russ H said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> More thots . . .<br /> <br /> OR-- it&#039;s not full height-- something else is underneath.<br /> <br /> -Russ H. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> I think more money. This was in the closet. I believe it is more than just $200 million. <br /> <br /> <div class="bbImageWrapper js-lbImage" title="drugmoney06.jpg" data-src="/community/proxy.php?image=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.funnymos.com%2Ffunny-pictures%2Fdrugmoney%2Fdrugmoney06.jpg&amp;hash=8526bb9cd5603debcd8166f2f259ee35" data-lb-sidebar-href="" data-lb-caption-extra-html="" data-single-image="1"> <img src="/community/proxy.php?image=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.funnymos.com%2Ffunny-pictures%2Fdrugmoney%2Fdrugmoney06.jpg&amp;hash=8526bb9cd5603debcd8166f2f259ee35" data-url="http://www.funnymos.com/funny-pictures/drugmoney/drugmoney06.jpg" class="bbImage" data-zoom-target="1" style="" alt="drugmoney06.jpg" title="" width="" height="" loading="lazy" /> </div><br /> <br /> <br /> <div class="bbImageWrapper js-lbImage" title="drugmoney04.jpg" data-src="/community/proxy.php?image=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.funnymos.com%2Ffunny-pictures%2Fdrugmoney%2Fdrugmoney04.jpg&amp;hash=74a2be25f3625ff255d283d94e8f9d50" data-lb-sidebar-href="" data-lb-caption-extra-html="" data-single-image="1"> <img src="/community/proxy.php?image=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.funnymos.com%2Ffunny-pictures%2Fdrugmoney%2Fdrugmoney04.jpg&amp;hash=74a2be25f3625ff255d283d94e8f9d50" data-url="http://www.funnymos.com/funny-pictures/drugmoney/drugmoney04.jpg" class="bbImage" data-zoom-target="1" style="" alt="drugmoney04.jpg" title="" width="" height="" loading="lazy" /> </div><br /> <br /> <div class="bbImageWrapper js-lbImage" title="drugmoney08.jpg" data-src="/community/proxy.php?image=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.funnymos.com%2Ffunny-pictures%2Fdrugmoney%2Fdrugmoney08.jpg&amp;hash=efe8d996c89367428994bce5322b5607" data-lb-sidebar-href="" data-lb-caption-extra-html="" data-single-image="1"> <img src="/community/proxy.php?image=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.funnymos.com%2Ffunny-pictures%2Fdrugmoney%2Fdrugmoney08.jpg&amp;hash=efe8d996c89367428994bce5322b5607" data-url="http://www.funnymos.com/funny-pictures/drugmoney/drugmoney08.jpg" class="bbImage" data-zoom-target="1" style="" alt="drugmoney08.jpg" title="" width="" height="" loading="lazy" /> </div><br /> <br /> To answer your question, in some states confiscated drug money is used to buy guns and cars for the police department. Either that or it is tucked away in some evidence pile.</div>

 

[LesG]

<div class="bbWrapper">When is enough enough?<br /> Guess he was saving for a rainy day.</div>

 

[andviv]

<div class="bbWrapper">$100 bills are not that desirable... they get a lot of scrutiny (they are the most falsified of the bills), so are not widely accepted, and raise a lot of suspicion in many places.<br /> <br /> Every day governments around the world are putting in place more mechanisms to prevent money laundering. Lately many drug organizations are taking stuff instead of cash to get paid. Arms or other drugs (like painkillers and stuff like that) are becoming more interesting for these organizations...</div>

 

[hakrjak]

<div class="bbWrapper">Wow, that is some serious cash!<br /> <br /> I read somewhere that the government of Iran has the absolute best counfeiting operation in the world, and they crank out millions of dollars of US currency daily from their presses. Their money is so good, it rarely fails a counterfeiting test.<br /> <br /> So it begs the question -- Could all this money be real? or phoney?<br /> <br /> Cheers,<br /> <br /> - Hakrjak</div>

 

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[Russ H]

<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="" data-quote="hakrjak" data-source="post: 125573" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/community/goto/post?id=125573" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-125573">hakrjak said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> I read somewhere that the government of Iran has the absolute best counfeiting operation in the world, and they crank out millions of dollars of US currency daily from their presses. Their money is so good, it rarely fails a counterfeiting test.<br /> <br /> So it begs the question -- Could all this money be real? or phony? </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> Gee, if you read it, it must be true. <img src="/community/imgs/emoticons/em-wink.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-shortname=";)" /><br /> <br /> Seriously, have you ever studied currency printing, and the things that are done to prevent counterfeiting?<br /> <br /> Pretty fascinating stuff. But in this age of high-res digital imaging, it&#039;s getting harder and harder to make money that can&#039;t be copied. The paper is the deciding factor most times. It&#039;s virtually impossible to duplicate.<br /> <br /> -Russ H.</div>

 

[Russ H]

<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="" data-quote="andviv" data-source="post: 125565" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/community/goto/post?id=125565" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-125565">andviv said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> $100 bills are not that desirable... they get a lot of scrutiny (they are the most falsified of the bills), so are not widely accepted, and raise a lot of suspicion in many places. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> I actually got to hold the best counterfeit $100 bill I&#039;d ever seen, a few weeks ago.<br /> <br /> Manager at a local restaurant got it, and was using it to train staff on what to look for before he turned it over to the police (it&#039;s against the law to hold/own any counterfeit money).<br /> <br /> Want a shock? The $100 bill used US govt currency paper-- had the watermark, striping, everything.<br /> <br /> So when you held it up, you saw everything. And when you used the special ID pen to stripe it, it verified that the bill was real.<br /> <br /> Print quality was (of course) flawless, in this age of digital scanners and laser printers.<br /> <br /> How did he spot the fake?<br /> <br /> When you held the bill up to the light, the watermark (large head shot only visible inside the paper) was of Abraham Lincoln-- NOT Benjamin Franklin.<br /> <br /> So what the counterfeiters were doing was taking $5 bills, getting all of the ink off somehow (bleaching? some high tech process, I&#039;d guess), and then printing on them.<br /> <br /> Amazing. Gave me something to watch for, when I get a hunnie! <img src="/community/imgs/emoticons/em-smile2.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-shortname=":)" /><br /> <br /> -Russ H.</div>

 

[CactusWren]

<div class="bbWrapper">Good question, where does it go?<br /> <br /> The first pic includes Mexican currency. The third picture had to have been taken in MX given the &quot;PGR&quot; is the federal agency in charge (you can see it on the paper on the wall).</div>

 

[sswift]

<div class="bbWrapper">Last month a teller at suntrust bank gave me a fake $50. when I brought it to bank of america to deposit, they informed me it was fake! Now I have to go through this crazy process, identify all the variables (where I got the bill, when, from who at the bank, etc.) just so I can redeem my $50 back!</div>

 

[hakrjak]

<div class="bbWrapper">Russ -- Definitely not saying I believe it 100%, but if you had a country&#039;s government dedicate 100+ experts, and a couple $million in budget in order to counterfeit another country&#039;s currency... That sure would give them a head start over the Mom &amp; Pop guys trying to do this in their basement! haha (I&#039;m sure the new $100&#039;s have thrown them for a loop though!)<br /> <br /> Here are a couple of articles -- they are from awhile back:<br /> <br /> <a href="http://www.fas.org/news/iran/1992/920701-233652.htm" target="_blank" class="link link--external" rel="noopener">Iran, Syria Accused of Counterfeiting US Dollars</a><br /> <br /> &quot;&quot;Evidence has recently come to light that the governments of Iran and Syria are actively engaged in economic warfare against the United States through the production and dissemination of high-quality counterfeit dollar bills.&quot; The report describes a conspiracy arising from the ruins of the war between Iran and Iraq. Short of hard currency, the Iranian government allegedly launched counterfeiting operations to help the country rebuild. The Iranian government dismisses these charges. But there are counterfeits of such high quality found in the Middle East, they&#039;re called &quot;Supernotes.&quot; They have the raised ink feel of bills printed on intaglio presses, equipment generally owned by governments.&quot;<br /> <br /> <a href="http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/transcripts/2314secr.html" target="_blank" class="link link--external" rel="noopener">NOVA | Transcripts | Secrets of Making Money | PBS</a><br /> <br /> &quot;ROBERT LEUVER: Ninety percent of the presses that are used to print security paper come from one company, De la rue Giori in Switzerland. And, Iran has these presses. They obtained them in the 1970s, as many other countries throughout the world. Anybody that has this equipment has the same equipment the United States has, so it&#039;s not unthinkable that another country has these presses and is capable of using them if they want to subvert the US economy. Whether that&#039;s Iran or some other Middle Eastern country, I don&#039;t know. But the possibility exists.&quot;</div>

 

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[Russ H]

<div class="bbWrapper">Hak-<br /> <br /> Here&#039;s an article that talks about the paper used for US currency. Paper composition is what the pens test for, not print quality. And as the article mentions, many tellers and cashiers (folks who handle cash all day long) can immediately &quot;feel&quot; fake paper, since currency paper is so distinctive (it&#039;s actually cloth-- not paper!).<br /> <br /> <a href="http://www.wikihow.com/Detect-Counterfeit-US-Money" target="_blank" class="link link--external" rel="noopener">How to Detect Counterfeit US Money - wikiHow</a><br /> <br /> -Russ H.</div>

 

[andviv]

<div class="bbWrapper">Russ, you are correct... a way to do it is to &quot;wash away&quot; the ink from $1 and $5 bills, and then print again as $50 and $100. Many bills could fool anybody... even bank tellers and long-time cashiers...</div>

 

[Luke12321]

<div class="bbWrapper">If I remember correctly, the history channel has a great show on the history of money and how people have tried and successful (for awhile) created and passed fakes. One guy in the London if I recall was living large for a long time before it caught up to him. I do remember them showing how some would take a $5 bill, wash it, dry it, then put the $100 on it. I think this method is what Russ was referring to as well and it can be very sneaky.<br /> <br /> They showed some small time crooks who were doing it like that....one guy had it down to a science but said he never tried to get rich from it. Pretty much would go in, pay for gas like a $20 bill (a real one). Walk out, turn right back around, say &quot;Oh, I need a pack of smokes&quot;, throw down another $20 and everything he got back was profit and the cashier usually would never check it cause they were sure it was real as he just had gave them a good one.</div>

 

[MJ DeMarco]

<div class="bbWrapper">If this guy bought a $200K car and paid cash, does that trigger a government flag? I can&#039;t remember.</div>

 

[Jonleehacker]

<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="" data-quote="PhxMJ" data-source="post: 126098" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/community/goto/post?id=126098" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-126098">PhxMJ said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> If this guy bought a $200K car and paid cash, does that trigger a government flag? I can&#039;t remember. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> I don&#039;t know about the correct legal trigger, but I&#039;ll bet a lot of car dealers would take the cash and just conduct the transaction off-books to avoid the taxes.</div>

 

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[bflbob]

<div class="bbWrapper">I have a Brother-in-Law who runs a high-end cemetery. He has had a few folks bury money in cemetery plots. (Pun intended.) You can buy several plots on payment terms, using cash to pay them over several months or years.<br /> <br /> When you need money, you just sell the plot back. Many times, appreciation earned you a decent return, since space is limited. At the time (not sure if that changed) it was a tax-free capital gain, since there was no tracking required.</div>

 

[andviv]

<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="" data-quote="PhxMJ" data-source="post: 126098" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/community/goto/post?id=126098" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-126098">PhxMJ said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> If this guy bought a $200K car and paid cash, does that trigger a government flag? I can&#039;t remember. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>as far as I know, any car dealer (or any company, for that matter) will call the police if such transaction is undergoing...<br /> <br /> Not sure though if it is a &quot;MUST call the police&quot; or more like a &quot;WE BETTER call the police&quot;<br /> <br /> I know a friend of mine had to explain to the police where the cash came from when he was trying to buy a honda accord and the dealership called them.</div>

 

[EastWind]

<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="" data-quote="PhxMJ" data-source="post: 126098" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/community/goto/post?id=126098" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-126098">PhxMJ said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> If this guy bought a $200K car and paid cash, does that trigger a government flag? I can&#039;t remember. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>Yes, OF COURSE LOL. Spend $10k cash will trigger govt flag.<br /> <br /> Even if he didn&#039;t spend cash, and got a loan. Getting cars worth above a certain price usually triggers a flag even if you do it with loan.</div>

 

[EastWind]

<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="" data-quote="Jonleehacker" data-source="post: 126099" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/community/goto/post?id=126099" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-126099">Jonleehacker said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> I don&#039;t know about the correct legal trigger, but I&#039;ll bet a lot of car dealers would take the cash and just conduct the transaction off-books to avoid the taxes. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>actually, not really.<br /> <br /> if you get that amount of cash, what are you going to do? store it under your mattress or in a safe in your office? you going to bank it, then explain where you got it from.</div>

 

[bflbob]

<div class="bbWrapper">Legally, you need to file a Form 8300 for any cash transaction over $10,000.<br /> <br /> When I did deposits for a restaurant I used to work for, I regularly deposited over $10k on Mondays. I&#039;ve had to fill these out on plenty of occasions. <br /> <br /> <a href="http://www.irs.gov/businesses/small/article/0,,id=148821,00.html" target="_blank" class="link link--external" rel="noopener">FAQs regarding Reporting Cash Payments of Over $10,000 (Form 8300)</a></div>

 

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[Russ H]

<div class="bbWrapper">Yup, $10K is the trigger.<br /> <br /> Had a client pay me in chunks of $9900 for that reason (this was like 20 years ago, before the 9/11 rules and tracking and stuff). <br /> <br /> Made no difference to me-- I declared every single penny as income and paid taxes on all of it.<br /> <br /> He thot i was nutz. :coco:<br /> <br /> -Russ H.<br /> <br /> PS MJ-- if you bought the car from a private party (not a business), I am not sure what needs to be done. But if you&#039;re a business, Bobbo&#039;s right-- dig out that form, filer &#039;er out, and file it. CYA.</div>

 

[bflbob]

<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="" data-quote="" data-source="" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> PS MJ-- if you bought the car from a private party (not a business), I am not sure what needs to be done. But if you&#039;re a business, Bobbo&#039;s right-- dig out that form, filer &#039;er out, and file it. CYA. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> The payer doesn&#039;t file the form...the recipient does.</div>

 

[JMATH45]

<div class="bbWrapper">That is some serious paper.</div>