The Forum's Thoughts on Veganism?

[JAJT]

I'm going to side with millions of years of evolution on this one. Meat all day. Delicious.

Just because one CAN get around evolutionary biology doesn't mean everyone should HAVE to.

I'm perfectly happy with anyone wanting to do whatever they like with their own lives. Pushing those views on people who are perfectly happy doing what evolution has specialized them to do is ridiculous though.

 

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[Delmania]

Hey look, a couple of studies!

Sorry, vegans: Eating meat and cooking food is how humans got their big brains
https://www.washingtonpost.com/nati...4d36de-326d-11e2-bb9b-288a310849ee_story.html

Do I think it will invalidate anyone's opinion or experience?

Nope.

Another study! http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2011/03/denial-science-chris-mooney

Facts don't change beliefs, but arguing in the intertubes can be fun.

 

[Delmania]

Ok, final reply here:

http://www.theatlantic.com/health/a...-winner-is-real-food/284595/?single_page=true

Eat food, mostly plants. Not too much.

 

[croman]

Ok, final reply here:

http://www.theatlantic.com/health/a...-winner-is-real-food/284595/?single_page=true

Eat food, mostly plants. Not too much.

http://whfoods.org

My wife and I have been following this book for 3 years now but with every meal I add 40-50 grams of protein and she adds for herself 15+ grams of protein. Organic protien(meats and fish)

This book lays out a 4 week daily meal plan too.

Our skin is glowing, everyone compliments our more vibrant youthful vitality look.

I don't have anything to do with this site.

I have followed many body builder diets and other ways of life/eating.

This by far gives me the most energy and vitality and weight control. After the first 2 weeks I was walking around like a retard telling people how good and natural high I felt.lol

Never hungry because you are consuming 100 percent of the nutrients the body requires on a daily basis. This is key

http://whfoods.org

Their cook book is sick. Amazing.

Also Shows you how to properly cook foods to retain all the nutrients. Easy.

Amazing site and book and way of life

 

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[Delmania]

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http://whfoods.org

My wife and I have been following this book for 3 years now but with every meal I add 40-50 grams of protein and she adds for herself 15+ grams of protein. Organic protien(meats and fish)

This book lays out a 4 week daily meal plan too.

Our skin is glowing, everyone compliments our more vibrant youthful vitality look.

I don't have anything to do with this site.

I have followed many body builder diets and other ways of life/eating.

This by far gives me the most energy and vitality and weight control. After the first 2 weeks I was walking around like a retard telling people how good and natural high I felt.lol

Never hungry because you are consuming 100 percent of the nutrients the body requires on a daily basis. This is key

http://whfoods.org

Their cook book is sick. Amazing.

Also Shows you how to properly cook foods to retain all the nutrients. Easy.

Amazing site and book and way of life

The site layout is atrocious, but I'll look into the book, thanks!

 

[biophase]

Hey everyone. It you have some time read this book. It is a fascinating look at how we evolved. Yes, there are chapters about agriculture and domestication of animals. It makes me think that even if we started over in 5000 BC with the same knowledge that we have now, we would still end up in the same place today.

http://www.amazon.com/dp/0062316095/?tag=tff-amazonparser-20

 

[PureA]

Hey everyone. It you have some time read this book. It is a fascinating look at how we evolved. Yes, there are chapters about agriculture and domestication of animals. It makes me think that even if we started over in 5000 BC with the same knowledge that we have now, we would still end up in the same place today.

http://www.amazon.com/dp/0062316095/?tag=tff-amazonparser-20

Finished this book just recently! It was a great read, highly recommended to everyone and anyone, even learnt a few business lesssons.

 

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[Developmental]

the biggest problem I have with the vegan/veggie argument that "meat is murder" is that those animals only exist because we plan on eating them at some point.

If the entire world went vegan we wouldn't have cows, pigs and sheep roaming the free world having a wonderful time, they would be extinct. If we didn't farm those animals they wouldn't exist. So is a life on a farm better than no life at all?

I can happily discuss economic/health/environmental pros and cons as there are actual points to be discussed but the second the "meat is murder" point is raised I'll assume that its just the typical vegan bs coming out. Animals eat other animals, its the way the world works, sorry!

 

[croman]

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The site layout is atrocious, but I'll look into the book, thanks!

Lol I'm referring to the content.

 

[Delmania]

Lol I'm referring to the content.

True, but any marketing expert will tell you that how you say it is just as important as what you have to say.

 

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[Mac]

The way I see it is, no matter if you're a vegan or whatever, it's supposed to be the biggest trend of 2016. That spells an opportunity for Fastlaners to make money. Create a product for the vegans and they will hand you their money. They're die-hard enthusiasts and will buy products just to prove a point. I'm not saying you should create bullshit products, I'm saying there's a lot of money to be made off of vegans.

Therefore, being a vegan is good for everyone! Just depends on how you look at it.