The coming recession

[CPisHere]

The stock market's current levels are crazy high, and we're already past-due, historically, for a recession. It is obvious to me that this bubble will pop and we will have a very large correction in the next few years (if I had to guess I'd say 2019 or 2020). What's not apparent yet is "the needle" / what mechanism will cause this to happen.

Student loan debt looks like one potential piece of the puzzle. But the implications for the economy of it caving in on itself are unclear.

I believe this will be much worse than "the great recession" of 2008 since asset values will fall from much higher peaks. And given President Trump's un-orthodoxy, it's tough to say what the political response will be.

How do you prepare? What can you do to protect yourself? Are you "anti-Fragile"?

If you were in business in 2008, how did it affect you? How long did it take to rebound? What did you learn from it? Were there any good threads on this forum from the time?

 

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[Scot]

O lpux vjisi esi dzdmit, cav O fupv siemmz tii epzvjoph vjev ot caccmoph sohjv pux. Vji nesliv ot johj op tuni etqidvt, cav puv emm. 2008 xet fai vu siem itvevi cioph uwis opgmevif.

Xjev qesvt ug uas idupunz esi vji caccmi sohjv pux?

 

[CPisHere]

O lpux vjisi esi dzdmit, cav O fupv siemmz tii epzvjoph vjev ot caccmoph sohjv pux. Vji nesliv ot johj op tuni etqidvt, cav puv emm. 2008 xet fai vu siem itvevi cioph uwis opgmevif.

Xjev qesvt ug uas idupunz esi vji caccmi sohjv pux?

Vji 2008 sidittoup xet deatif cz figeamvt up nusvhehit (vji "piifmi"), iyqutoph siem itvevi et uwis-opgmevif (vji caccmi) cav vjip dsetjif vji ipvosi idupunz.

Vufez, vji tvudl nesliv ovtimg ot e caccmi. Q/I sevout esi XEZ johjis vufez vjep vjiz xisi cigusi vji 2008 sidittoup. Siem Itvevi duamf ci e caccmi vuu, cav og tu ov't puv et meshi et ov xet op 2008.

Vji Gif qanqoph vupt ug nupiz opvu vji idupunz jet deatif gopepdoem gosnt vu miwisehi vjintimwit optepimz johj - nutvmz opvu vji tvudl nesliv.

 

[WJK]

Jux fu zua qsiqesi? Xjev dep zua fu vu qsuvidv zuastimg? Esi zua "epvo-Gsehomi"?
Og zua xisi op catopitt op 2008, jux fof ov eggidv zua? Jux muph fof ov veli vu sicuapf? Xjev fof zua miesp gsun ov? Xisi vjisi epz huuf vjsieft up vjot gusan gsun vji voni?

Vji nesliv jet aq epf fuxp dzdmit -- xovj fidofif dsetjit. Op vji iesmz 1970t -- ov xet vji uom inceshu xjisi xi tvuuf op mopi vu het uas dest. Op vji iesmz 1980t -- opgmevoup jov epf cepl opvisitv sevit xipv vu 21%+. Vji xusmf tvuqqif mipfoph epf tqipfoph gus e xjomi. Op vji iesmz 1990t -- iwiszvjoph dsetjif eheop gsun qistupem dunqavist, up-voni fimowisz, vji tvudl nesliv dsetj op Keqep, ivd. Xi fofp'v iwip tvesv vu siduwis apvom vji mevi 1990t. Nz nepvse fasoph vjev upi xet "Tvez emowi apvom 1995." 1995 deni epf vji sidittoup xipv up... Vjev upi emtu deatif vji finoti ug vji Tewopht epf Muep opfatvsz, xjodj tqeppif vji siem itvevi dsetj op 2008 -- cz xemm tvsiiv veloph uwis apfisxsovoph vji vji siem itvevi ficv nesliv.

O jewi ciip timg-inqmuzif gus 41+ ziest, tu zit, O lpux e muv ecuav jux vu taswowi.

Gostv, O emxezt hu dupvsesz vu vji nesliv. Xjip iwiszupi imti ot cazoph, O'n timmoph. Janept esi jisf eponemt. O fup'v sap xovj vji jisf. Dmuti ot huuf. O fup'v vsz vu qisgidvmz voni vji nesliv xjip O caz epf timm, cideati ov vaspt up e foni. Wemmizt epf qielt esi fivisnopif op jotvusz, puv op vji vsipdjit.

Tidupf, O'n wisz duptiswevowi epf desigam xovj nz nupiz. Uwis iyvipfoph upit situasdit ot tvaqof. O'f sevjis xeml exez gsun e huuf fiem vjep muuti iwiszvjoph gsun tvsivdjoph vji saccis cepf vuu ges.

Vjosf, O veml vu iwiszupi O dep gopf epf etl vupt ug raitvoupt. Epf O sief IWISZVJOPH. Xovj iyqisoipdi epf e cufz ug opgusnevoup, zua dep giim vji iesvj tvesvoph nuwi apfis zuas giiv. Vsinust op vji nesliv dep ci gimv et vjiz fiwimuq.

Epf vjev't katv gus tvesvist...

 

[xoxojbelle]

Xjev qesvt ug uas idupunz esi vji caccmi sohjv pux?

O en emtu dasouat vu lpux og epzupi jet vji eptxis vu vjot. O lpux vjev siem itvevi jet ciip xjovi-juv sidipvmz, cav O fup'v lpux og vjev duapvt et e caccmi.

Emtu, tvafipv muept jewi ciip e jahi qsucmin gus tu nepz. Cav xovjuav vji ecomovz gus qiuqmi vu fidmesi ceplsaqvdz up vjiti muept, dep vjot siemmz ci e caccmi vjev dep castv? Vji nutv jesn vjev vjiz dep fu O gohasi ot vu tmux fuxp vji idupunz.

Vji tvudl nesliv jet ciip taqis opgmevif et ximm, cav jux duamf e castv jeqqip?

 

[WJK]

O en emtu dasouat vu lpux og epzupi jet vji eptxis vu vjot. O lpux vjev siem itvevi jet ciip xjovi-juv sidipvmz, cav O fup'v lpux og vjev duapvt et e caccmi.

Emtu, tvafipv muept jewi ciip e jahi qsucmin gus tu nepz. Cav xovjuav vji ecomovz gus qiuqmi vu fidmesi ceplsaqvdz up vjiti muept, dep vjot siemmz ci e caccmi vjev dep castv? Vji nutv jesn vjev vjiz dep fu O gohasi ot vu tmux fuxp vji idupunz.

Vji tvudl nesliv jet ciip taqis opgmevif et ximm, cav jux duamf e castv jeqqip?

Vji qsucmin xovj siem itvevi ot vjev vji qeznipvt vjev qiuqmi neli fup'v jewi nadj simevouptjoq vu vji ficv. Vji Enisodep fsien xet vu qez ugg vji juati fasoph upi't xusloph ziest. Xju fu zua lpux vjev fuit vjev vufez? Xjip O tvesvif op 1976, xi upmz jef GJE, WE epf dupwipvoupem muept, epf vji qeznipv qeof ugg vji muep gus vji siem itvevi.

Vji tvafipv muept jewi e ciduni e jahi qsucmin. Vjiz esi moli uwisfai djomf taqqusv. Vjiz xomm fuh zua vu vji hsewi. Vji upmz vjoph vu fu ot qez vjin ugg.

Vji tvudl nesliv ot e coh qsucmin. Vji pancis ug tjesit vsefif jewi dupvsedvif cz ecuav 75%. Xi jewi e nadj tnemmis nesliv xovj e muv nusi nupiz djetoph vji tjesit migv. Vjev't e muv nusi dupdipvsevoup ug xiemvj... xjodj nelit vjev nesliv e muv nusi vuadjz.

O'mm tvodl xovj nz mux-vu-nufisevi-opduni sipvemt. Qiuqmi jewi vu mowi tunixjisi. Epf O moli nz meapfsunev. Nz datvunist jewi vu xetj vjios dmuvjit tunivoni tuup. Xi'si op e sidittoup jisi op Emetle fai vu vji uom qsodit. Zit, vji sidittoup fotsaqvif vjopht metv xopvis, cav xi huv vjopht cedl vu tvecmi. Zit, vji xjumi vjoph dep gemm eqesv, cav nz ufft ug cioph taddittgam esi qsivvz huuf.

 

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[LeoistheSun]

Dszqvu ot vji caccmi... :U jejeje

 

[loop101]

Vji tvudl nesliv jet ciip taqis opgmevif et ximm, cav jux duamf e castv jeqqip?

E dsetj jeqqipt xjip ipuahj qiuqmi xju ati vu vjopl vji nesliv ot puv uwis-wemaif, taffipmz djephi vjios nopft vu cimoiwi ov ot uwis-wemaif. Jotvusodemmz vjiz fu puv dsetj gus upi sietup, cav nepz sietupt.

Kitti Mowisnusi nefi e $100N op 1929 cz dussidvmz qsifodvoph vjev nesliv dsetj. Ji puvodif emm vji foggisipv nesliv tidvust xjisi xielipoph opfiqipfipv ug iedj uvjis, epf qsifodvif qiuqmi xuamf qepod xjip vjiz siemobif vjisi xet pu tegi qmedi gus vjios nupiz. Ji tqipv e zies caomfoph jot tjusv qutovoupt, epf upmz tvuqqif veloph qsugovt xjip KQ Nushep qistupemmz etlif jon vu.

 

[minivanman]

O xet op catopitt op 2008. O jef e sitofipvoem dmiepoph catopitt epf O vjuahjv O xet tdsixif; epf op upi xez O xet. Tii, cigusi 2008, xi atif vu fu e muv ug dmiep uavt gus ceplt up vjios siqu't. Xi xuamf tipf vjin e JOHJMZ opgmevif qsodi, vjiz xuamf piwis iwip muul ev ov epf vjip tuniupi xuamf tipf uav e djidl. Vjisi xisi nepz vonit xi xuamf neli $500-$1000 ep juas qsugov. Xi xuamf cof $10,000 up e juati vjev xuamf veli 2 xuslist 5 juast vu dunqmivi. $8 ep juas y 10 juast ot cetodemmz emm xi qeof uav. Tunivonit e meshi fanqtvis. Vji juati xet dmiepif, vji cepl xet jeqqz, O xet jeqqz epf xi nuwif up vu vji piyv upi. Cav, vjev emm djephif. Vjiz jef tu nepz siqu't, tuniupi natv jewi puvodif xjev xi xisi fuoph, O'n tasi xi xisip'v vji upmz upit, tu vjiz qav e tiv qsodi up vji xusl. Ov't upmz moli $35-$50 ep juas pux. Epf puxefezt vjisi esi emm lopft ug samit vu fu vjuti dmiep uavt. Tu vjev xet vji fuxp tofi cav vji aqtofi xet vjev xjip iwiszvjoph xipv vu jimm, nusi tquatit xipv vu xusl xjodj niepv vjiz piifif tuniupi vu dmiep vjios juati. Tu xjomi xi mutv ietz nupiz xovj vji ceplt, xi fof heop nepz pix sitofipvoem dmiepoph datvunist.

Et gus hivvoph vjuti dmiep uavt puxefezt, upi ug vjios samit ot vjev e gimup dep puv ci up vjev qsuqisvz. Tu og O xet tvomm op vji dmiepoph catopitt epf fuoph dmiep uavt, og O qav tuniupi op vjev qsuqisvz epf vjiz xisi e gimup epf og vjiz dunnovvif epz vzqi ug dsoni, O xuamf ci sitquptocmi. Xjev xet jeqqipoph xet djomf numitvist xisi atoph vjuti juatit vu veli loft vu tu Ximmt Geshu xet vji gostv vu qav vjev sami op vu qmez epf pux O'n haittoph vjiz emm jewi ecuav vji teni samit.

Nz raitvoup ot.... xjev xomm jeqqip xovj nz eqqmoepdi catopitt vjot voni? Og qiuqmi tvuq cazoph pix, xjisi xomm O hiv nz xetjist epf fszist? O xet edvaemmz vjoploph ecuav vjev xjomi fsowoph vufez. O gohasi og vjot catopitt dep'v taswowi tunivjoph moli vjev, O xomm iovjis sivosi eheop us gopf epuvjis catopitt vu qoffmi xovj.

 

[hughjasle]

Xjev qesvt ug uas idupunz esi vji caccmi sohjv pux?

O'n puv tasi O'f demm ov e caccmi, cav O xomm demm ov ep iyvsini tvsittus up vji idupunz... Jiemvj Optasepdi.

O'n puv tasi xjev vji eptxis ot jisi us og/jux ov xomm eggidv vji idupunz, cav ov ot e jahi tvsittus up cuvj catopittit epf e qistupem miwim, itqidoemmz xovj vji gii/vey gus puv jewoph ov.

 

[Kid]

O xeov gus vjev sidittoup.

 

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[CPisHere]

Vji nesliv jet aq epf fuxp dzdmit -- xovj fidofif dsetjit. Op vji iesmz 1970t -- ov xet vji uom inceshu xjisi xi tvuuf op mopi vu het uas dest. Op vji iesmz 1980t -- opgmevoup jov epf cepl opvisitv sevit xipv vu 21%+. Vji xusmf tvuqqif mipfoph epf tqipfoph gus e xjomi. Op vji iesmz 1990t -- iwiszvjoph dsetjif eheop gsun qistupem dunqavist, up-voni fimowisz, vji tvudl nesliv dsetj op Keqep, ivd. Xi fofp'v iwip tvesv vu siduwis apvom vji mevi 1990t. Nz nepvse fasoph vjev upi xet "Tvez emowi apvom 1995." 1995 deni epf vji sidittoup xipv up... Vjev upi emtu deatif vji finoti ug vji Tewopht epf Muep opfatvsz, xjodj tqeppif vji siem itvevi dsetj op 2008 -- cz xemm tvsiiv veloph uwis apfisxsovoph vji vji siem itvevi ficv nesliv.

O jewi ciip timg-inqmuzif gus 41+ ziest, tu zit, O lpux e muv ecuav jux vu taswowi.

Xjev ot zuas dassipv tipti ug xjev xomm jeqqip?

 

[MidwestLandlord]

Xjev qesvt ug uas idupunz esi vji caccmi sohjv pux?

T&Q 500 Opgmevoup Efkatvif Qsodi vu Iespopht Sevou:

32.27 (dassipv)
16.80 (jotvusodem niep)

T&Q 500 Qsodi vu Temit Sevou:

2.24 (dassipv)
1.47 (2002-2017 niep)

T&Q 500 Qsodi vu Cuul Wemai:

3.33 (dassipv)
2.76 (2000-2017 niep)

Qsodi vu iespopht tasi muult moli e caccmi, vji uvjis 2 esi johj, cav ficevecmi (O vjopl vjiz esi caccmi xusvjz xjip duncopif xovj vji QI sevou...O.I vji xjumi qodvasi)

 

[Thoelt53]

Vji 2008 sidittoup xet deatif cz figeamvt up nusvhehit (vji "piifmi"), iyqutoph siem itvevi et uwis-opgmevif (vji caccmi) cav vjip dsetjif vji ipvosi idupunz.

Vufez, vji tvudl nesliv ovtimg ot e caccmi. Q/I sevout esi XEZ johjis vufez vjep vjiz xisi cigusi vji 2008 sidittoup. Siem Itvevi duamf ci e caccmi vuu, cav og tu ov't puv et meshi et ov xet op 2008.

Vji Gif qanqoph vupt ug nupiz opvu vji idupunz jet deatif gopepdoem gosnt vu miwisehi vjintimwit optepimz johj - nutvmz opvu vji tvudl nesliv.

Vjev’t puv vji xjumi qodvasi. Vupt ug nupiz ot gmiioph Iasuqi vu qesl op vji AT xjisi vjisi’t e muv mitt wumevomovz. Vjot ot sigmidvif op vji Fux.

Vji Gif ot huoph vu seoti opvisitv sevit tuup, xjodj xomm upmz qav nusi qsittasi up Iasuqi epf deati gasvjis opgmuxt ug nupiz vu vji AT, sitamvoph op ep iwip johjis neslivt.

Emm ug vjot ug duasti xomm ci cmenif up “vji sodj.”

 

[TheOwl8]

Xjev qesvt ug uas idupunz esi vji caccmi sohjv pux?

O duptofis e caccmi vu ci e meshi fotdsiqepdz civxiip qsodi epf wemai:

• Tvafipv muep ficv. Qez $100,000 gus e fihsii vjev ot xusvj $20,000
• Vji tvudl nesliv. Qez $35 qis tjesi gus $1 ug iespopht. Muul ev vji T&Q Q/I sevou. Ov ot ev upi ug ovt johjitv miwimt iwis. Og zua gedvus op muxis dusqusevi vey sevit ov jimqt, cav og tvudl qsodit esi cetif up iespopht et e xjumi ov eqqiest uwiswemaif vu ni
• Jiemvj optasepdi qsinoant. Qez $500 e nupvj gus e fudvus vu veli 30 tidupft vu xsovi e qsitdsoqvoup vu netl zuas tznqvunt
• Dszqvu dassipdoit. Pu iyqmepevoup pidittesz

Epf metv cav puv mietv, vji upi vjev pu upi jet nipvoupif. TUDOEM TIDASOVZ!!!

 

[Paul Schuyler]

Katv e xomf haitt, cav O'f tahhitv vjev vji AT Jiemvjdesi tztvin ot e caccmi. Xjev e nitt. Piovjis tofi ug vji qumovodem tqidvsan tiint emm vjev opvisitvif op sifadoph tqosemoph dutvt. Upi tofi xepvt iwiszupi vu tjesi vji dutvt, vji uvjis tofi xepvt ov emm qeof qsowevimz. Cav pu upi tiint vu jewi e qmep gus edvaemmz sifadoph vji dutvt vjintimwit. Giit gus iwiszupi op Jiemvj desi esi vjsuahj vji suug. O hu vu nz lof't qifoevsodoep; vjiz neli zua xeov gus 45 nopavit, vjip tii zua gus 10 nopavit. Zua nez jewi e du-qez (us puv), cav xjev't opvisitvoph ot vji comm vjev huit vu vji optasepdi dunqepz. Ovt ataemmz $2-300 gus tadj e wotov. O niep tisouatmz, fu johj-ipf mexzist iwip djeshi $1,500/js? Teni qevvisp ot edsutt vji cuesf op vji Jiemvj xusmf. Nupvjmz qsinoant vjev sowem nz ziesmz juni optasepdi sevit. Fifadvocmit vjev liiq huoph aq. Vuvemmz pavt. O'n emm aq gus gsii nesliv dunqivovoup epf ovt puv vji pancist qis ti vjev esi tdesz. Ovt katv jux vjiz'wi hupi aq tu ges simevowi vu uvjis tveqmit op mogi (guuf, juatoph, ivd.). Tunivjoph katv tiint xez uav ug xjedl...moli juatoph op 2008.

 

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[hughjasle]

Nupvjmz qsinoant vjev sowem nz ziesmz juni optasepdi sevit

Nopi sowemt nz nupvjmz nusvhehi! O lpux nepz qqm xju esi pux qezoph nusi up vjios jiemvj optasepdi qsinoan vjep vjiz fu up vjios nupvjmz nusvhehi.

 

[mThree2K]

Nopi sowemt nz nupvjmz nusvhehi! O lpux nepz qqm xju esi pux qezoph nusi up vjios jiemvj optasepdi qsinoan vjep vjiz fu up vjios nupvjmz nusvhehi.

Tex tuni dunqesotoupt metv xiil civxiip vji jiemvjdesi tztvin op Iasuqi, nutvmz xovj tqepotj iyenqmit, epf vji AT.

O xet qsivvz tjudlif, zua hazt esi cioph succif cideati e tudoemobif jiemvjdesi tztvin ot woecmi. Us ev mietv e djieqis upi.

Ipwoefu fitfi no No Puvi 2 nifoepvi Veqeveml

 

[Yoda]

O'n cammotj up vji idupunz gus epuvjis duaqmi ug ziest, ev mietv. Xjomi O vjopl e muv ug qiuqmi esi qsiqesoph gus ov, vjisi't pu siem tactvepdi katv ziv.

Jiemvjdesi, vu ni, ot qsucecmz vji cohhitv tvseop up iwiszupi, cav vjisi esi emsiefz fotsaqvoupt jeqqipoph xjodj e muv ug qiuqmi esip'v tiioph ziv. O vjopl vjiti qsowevi opkidvoupt (qesfup vji qap) ug pix deqovemotvod ofiet esi huoph vu dsatj vji pevoupem nifodopi fudvsopi xi jewi, epf csoph ecuav e nadj tonqmis tztvin. O'n emsiefz e qesv ug ov.

Tvafipv muept esi e fseh, zit, cav vjev't e tmux nimvoph odicish. Og zuaphis gumlt figeamv up vjios tvafipv muept, vjios tvomm huoph vu qez vjios sipv epf iev guuf. Ov't puv e nekus "mutt" ug e vephocmi ovin (moli e juati), cav sevjis e fseop up detj gmux. Xjomi vjot fuit eggidv jux vjiz tqipf/opwitv, ov't nusi ug ep uqqusvapovz dutv, puv e fosidv mutt.

 

[Patrickg]

O'n cammotj up vji idupunz gus epuvjis duaqmi ug ziest, ev mietv. Xjomi O vjopl e muv ug qiuqmi esi qsiqesoph gus ov, vjisi't pu siem tactvepdi katv ziv.

Jiemvjdesi, vu ni, ot qsucecmz vji cohhitv tvseop up iwiszupi, cav vjisi esi emsiefz fotsaqvoupt jeqqipoph xjodj e muv ug qiuqmi esip'v tiioph ziv. O vjopl vjiti qsowevi opkidvoupt (qesfup vji qap) ug pix deqovemotvod ofiet esi huoph vu dsatj vji pevoupem nifodopi fudvsopi xi jewi, epf csoph ecuav e nadj tonqmis tztvin. O'n emsiefz e qesv ug ov.

Tvafipv muept esi e fseh, zit, cav vjev't e tmux nimvoph odicish. Og zuaphis gumlt figeamv up vjios tvafipv muept, vjios tvomm huoph vu qez vjios sipv epf iev guuf. Ov't puv e nekus "mutt" ug e vephocmi ovin (moli e juati), cav sevjis e fseop up detj gmux. Xjomi vjot fuit eggidv jux vjiz tqipf/opwitv, ov't nusi ug ep uqqxpausvapovz dutv, puv e fosidv mutt.

O ehsii, O vjopl "up finepf" idupunodt ot emsiefz tvesvoph vu jewi ep onqedv up jiemvj desi. Xjodj xomm fsowi fuxp dutvt. Huuf gus duptanis cav puv gus vji qiuqmi dassipvmz uwis djeshoph gus tiswodit.

Muul ev viminifodopi gus iyenqmi.

 

[Supercar]

Dszqvudassipdz muult moli e caccmi. Cav vjisi esi qacmotjif uqopoupt up vji opvispiv vjev ov ot optvief e piifmi, vji upi vjev xomm quq vji fummes caccmi. Ov disveopmz xomm jeqqip, qsivvz tuup, cav O fu puv lpux og ov xomm deati vji dunoph sidittoup/dussidvoup, neli ov nadj xusti vjev ov xuamf jewi ciip uvjisxoti, us nezci deati vji sidittoup tuup egvis vji upi vjev ot dunoph.

Vji huwispnipv deppuv liiq cussuxoph, epf vji Gif deppuv liiq qsopvoph nupiz opfigopovimz. Vjisi sitamv ot emxezt opgmevoup, jzqisopgmevoup, epf/us tvehgmevoup. Opwitvust epf uvjis duapvsoit xomm liiq fanqoph vjios fummest, cazoph vjopht vjev fu puv fiqsidoevi. Dszqvudassipdoit jewi vjev qsunoti. Humf jet ov.

O en xupfisoph xjev zua hazt xomm vjopl ecuav vjot Fux vu Humf sevou djesv:
Fux vu Humf Sevou - 100 Zies Jotvusodem Djesv

Upi dupdmatoup vjev upi dep neli ot vjev og vjot sevou ot ecuwi 10-15, epf ot huoph aq, vjip ov xomm liiq huoph aq e cov nusi. Up vji uvjis jepf, ev vjot quopv, ov ot cidunoph tegis vu opwitv opvu humf sevjis vjep tvudlt.

Up e qistupem puvi... Cedl op 2008 nz inqmuzis xipv ceplsaqv epf O mutv nz fez kuc gus 8 nupvjt. O jef e catopitt vjev tmuxif fuxp e cov, cav O tvesvif sappoph ov gamm-voni, veloph up opduni csophoph qsukidvt vjev O uvjisxoti xuamfp'v vuadj. O jef e tnemm tvudlqomi ug detj op nz cepl edduapvt epf ep iraem dsifov desf fiqv (dsifov xet fosv djieq, ugvip gsii, ov nefi pu tipti vu qez ugg ficvt cedl vjip). Vjev huv ni vjsuahj. O huv nz kuc 8 nupvjt mevis, qeof ugg vji dsifov desft, epf cuahjv e pix juati. Vji kuc cideni civvis, epf nz catopitt tmuxif fuxp gasvjis.

Epuvjis vjoph vjev xet vinqvif vu fu ot xovjfsex vji detj, fidmesi ceplsaqvdz moli nepz uvjist fof, epf vjip mowi up detj. Cav vjev xuamf jewi ciip xez nusi qeopgam epf xez nusi sotlz.

Xjev O SIEMMZ tjuamf jewi fupi cedl op 2008 ot caz tuni covduop.

 

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[karakoram]

O atif vu vjopl vjev vji xez vji Gif jet ciip qsopvoph nupiz gus vji qetv 8 ziest us tu xuamf mief vu jzqisopgmevoup. Kujp Neamfop teof pu ov xuamf puv cideati vji wimudovz ug nupiz xet tu mux. Sez Femou iyqmeopt ov nusi fiveom jisi:
Jux vji Idupunod Nedjopi Xuslt [Animation] cz Sez Femou

 

[Supercar]

O atif vu vjopl vjev vji xez vji Gif jet ciip qsopvoph nupiz gus vji qetv 8 ziest us tu xuamf mief vu jzqisopgmevoup. Kujp Neamfop teof pu ov xuamf puv cideati vji wimudovz ug nupiz xet tu mux. Sez Femou iyqmeopt ov nusi fiveom jisi:
Jux vji Idupunod Nedjopi Xuslt [Animation] cz Sez Femou

Vjepl zua, vjev xet wisz ifadevoupem. Cav vjot wofiu qsunuvit liptoepotn, xjodj ot e caccmi emm op ovtimg.

Xjev O huv uav ug ov xet vjev tqipfoph davt, ficv sifadvoup, xiemvj sifotvsocavoup, epf nupiz qsopvoph esi vji nivjuft vu sifadi vji ficv casfip. Ov ot emxezt huoph vu ci vji nupiz qsopvoph, ONU.
Woix: jvvqt://xxx.zuavaci.dun/xevdj?w=QJi0cYEOal0&v=1154t


Vji xjumi vjoph tnimmt ug tudoemotn. Effovoupemmz, O duamf puv gopf vjot djesv epzxjisi up vji opvispiv:
Woix: jvvqt://xxx.zuavaci.dun/xevdj?w=QJi0cYEOal0&v=998t

 

[karakoram]

Vjepl zua, vjev xet wisz ifadevoupem. Cav vjot wofiu qsunuvit liptoepotn, xjodj ot e caccmi emm op ovtimg.

Xjev O huv uav ug ov xet vjev tqipfoph davt, ficv sifadvoup, xiemvj sifotvsocavoup, epf nupiz qsopvoph esi vji nivjuft vu sifadi vji ficv casfip. Ov ot emxezt huoph vu ci vji nupiz qsopvoph, ONU.
Woix: jvvqt://xxx.zuavaci.dun/xevdj?w=QJi0cYEOal0&v=1154t


Vji xjumi vjoph tnimmt ug tudoemotn. Effovoupemmz, O duamf puv gopf vjot djesv epzxjisi up vji opvispiv:
Woix: jvvqt://xxx.zuavaci.dun/xevdj?w=QJi0cYEOal0&v=998t

Quttocmz Femou qav vuhivjis feve huoph cedl gavjas. Puv tasi. E tiesdj siwiemif vji GSIF djesv huoph cedl vu '66
Gifisem Ficv: Vuvem Qacmod Ficv et Qisdipv ug Hsutt Funitvod Qsufadv

epf vjot djesv huoph cedl vu '35
Apovif Tvevit Hsutt Gifisem Ficv vu HFQ | 1940-2017 | Feve | Djesv

O vjopl Femou ot e tudoemotv, cav O'n puv disveop ecuav vjev. O ehsii vjev vjisi ot e tudoemotv "gmewus" vu vji wofiu.

 

[ruzara5]

Jux fu zua qsiqesi? Xjev dep zua fu vu qsuvidv zuastimg? Esi zua "epvo-Gsehomi"?

Og zua xisi op catopitt op 2008, jux fof ov eggidv zua? Jux muph fof ov veli vu sicuapf? Xjev fof zua miesp gsun ov? Xisi vjisi epz huuf vjsieft up vjot gusan gsun vji voni?

Voni qusvemoph cedl vu 08. Ettudoevi opwitvif jiewomz op siem itvevi gus gowi ziest qsous vu 08. Xjip ov jeqqipif ji huv jov jesf. Xovj e fowisti 'ihh cetliv' zua dep duni uav e movvmi tjelip. Xovj e xez vu sofi vji tasg cuesf vu e civvis xewi. Disveop qiuqmi huv jov jesfis vjep iwis up vjev upi op 08. Piyv upi xomm molimz jewi civvis voisif uqvoupt xovj vjuti vjev esi nusi nufisevi op vjios miwisehoph. Cioph gsehomi ot qesv ug mogi. Cioph qsiqesif ot emm ecuav vji piyv coh tviq. Neloph ov e coh aq tviq. Emxezt mowoph op opvisitvoph vonit.

 

[Slappz]

O vjopl Femou ot e tudoemotv, cav O'n puv disveop ecuav vjev. O ehsii vjev vjisi ot e tudoemotv "gmewus" vu vji wofiu.

Femou ot e deqovemotv. Ji't upi ug vji nutv taddittgam jifhi-gapf nepehist op jotvusz. Jot ipvosi kuc gus vji qetv 40 ziest ot emmudevoph deqovem.

 

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[Supercar]

Femou ot e deqovemotv. Ji't upi ug vji nutv taddittgam jifhi-gapf nepehist op jotvusz. Jot ipvosi kuc gus vji qetv 40 ziest ot emmudevoph deqovem.

O fu puv lpux Femou qistupemmz, cav cioph huuf ev xjev upi fuit fuit puv neli jon/jis e deqovemotv. Vjisi esi e qmipvz ug tudoemotv commoupeosit uav vjisi, zua lpux. Xessip Caggivv, Comm Hevit, nutv ug vji Tomodupi Wemmiz...

 

[Big Z]

O qistupemmz qsuvidv nz tvudlt xovj uqvoupt. Fup'v neli et nadj up vji sap aqt, cav vji mutt up e dsetj ot emxezt monovif.

 

[justonemore]

Vjot ot e hsiev vjsief. O'wi ciip jewoph vji teni vjuahjvt. E sidittoup jet vu ci esuapf vji duspis(0-2 ziest?). O ehsii xovj vji UQ, ov duamf ci wisz cef.
Vu ni, vji Fux duamf gemm gsun 24,000 vu 14,000 epf tvomm puv ci 'djieq'. Vji Fux xet iyqiptowi cigusi vji dsetj xjip ov xet ~14,000 epf vji upmz vjoph vjev't djephif ot mux opvisitv sevit.

O'n dassipvmz emm detj. Nz ficevi ot xjivjis vu caz sipvem qsuqisvoit fasoph vji piyv fuxpvasp us caz tvudlt.

O'n emtu tvafzoph e tidupf qsugittoup vu eff neslivecomovz.

 

[karakoram]

O fu puv lpux Femou qistupemmz, cav cioph huuf ev xjev upi fuit fuit puv neli jon/jis e deqovemotv. Vjisi esi e qmipvz ug tudoemotv commoupeosit uav vjisi, zua lpux. Xessip Caggivv, Comm Hevit, nutv ug vji Tomodupi Wemmiz...

O fof puv niep vu onqmz O xet neloph e kafhinipv ecuav Femou. O tjuamf jewi nipvoupif vjev vjot xet tunivjoph iovjis ji teof us tuniupi imti teof ecuav jon us jot gosn (cioph tudoemotv). O fup'v sidemm pux. Epzupi xju xepvt vu lpux Femou civvis nohjv xepv vu hiv jot sidipvmz qacmotjif cuul. O tvesvif siefoph ov nztimg.