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Hi all,

I posted an introduction thread and am now thinking about ways to get to where I want to be:

INTRO - Process guy, trying to take the steering wheel

Eventually I want to work on my big ideas, but I feel that I need a liquidation event first to do it properly (aka "not alone").

The current plan is creating either an Information Product business or a SaaS subscription product ... or even combining the two.

For the Information Product, I am considering:
  • DoByLearning.com
  • FirstCodeContact.com
  • StartupExample.com
  • CodeAndSucceed.com
To create a SaaS business, I could create JavaEE based REST services that provide APIs and bring them together using a Liferay based portal.
I have no great ideas for a promising (CENTS) SaaS solution (with the exception of my two big ones), so I am considering a hybrid for now:
  • AllGotchas.com
  • OYOGuides.com
Here I want to create portals for user created step-by-step Guides (OYO = On Your Own) with collaboration and mashup features in any category and a Gotcha Database (in any category and maybe with an integration to OYOGuides.com).

Those would probably be really hard to monetize directly, but I can create an Information Product that teaches people to create their own SaaS solution the same way (step-by-step).
Ideas Are Worthless - A SEO optimized Gotcha database

The platforms could also help people over time and with SEO optimization they could touch the lifes of many people at some point (the way StackExchange does every day).
They could lead to opportunities that I cannot even conceive of at this point and they would be proof that I can execute / deliver.

The issue I have with this plan is that selling an information product based company might be more difficult than selling a SaaS business, but that is probably something I should not worry about at this point.

The two big ideas are:
 
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Zua dep hiv tvadl qmeppoph epf tewoph... xjev't vji quopv ug tewoph epf qmeppoph gus 10 ziest og zua casp uav us taggis gsun e tvsitt-simevif nifodem iwipv? Vjev xuamf ci xetvoph zuas citv situasdi, zua.

Og zua jecovaemmz edv vuxesf zuas huemt iwisz fez (O sidunnipf iesmz nuspoph, cigusi vji *&^% jovt vji gep ev xusl us xjeviwis), zua puv upmz jewi vji sitamvt ug vjuti edvoupt, cav zua heop e giifcedl nidjepotn.

Zuas cseop xuslt up giifcedl, ov't vji Xjievoit vjev neli ov tvsuphis, et uqqutif vu sanopevoup xjodj esi vji Madlz Djesnt vjev howi ov vzqi 2 foecivit. Ul cef epemuhz, qsucecmz. Cav siemmz, neli tunivjoph, heahi vji nesliv sitqupti, veml vu datvunist us quvipvoem datvunist. Vjev't jux zua gopf uav og ov't xusloph. Vji qevj ciduni nadj nusi dmies nadj nusi raodlmz.
 
Ximm, et e jahi gep ug "Vji Quxis ug Jecov", "Tu Huuf Vjiz Dep'v Ohpusi Zua" epf "Vji UPI Vjoph" O jewi xepvif vu vasp xusloph up nz catopitt opvu e jecov gus tiwisem ziest. O katv jewi ziv vu gopf e xez vjev edvaemmz xuslt.

"Nosedmi Nuspoph" evvinqvt gadlif ni aq, gusvapevimz puv cizupf siqeos. Vjev tmiiq qevvisp fuit puv xusl gus ni. O xomm puv vuadj vjev CT xovj e vip guuv qumi iwis eheop. Emtu, xjipiwis O xusl up nz qsukidvt iesmz, O en qsiuddaqoif xovj qistupem qsukidv djemmiphit ev xusl epf apfisqisgusn.

Egvis xusl, O ugvip qett uav gus e xjomi, tu O qsucecmz piif vu qav op vji voni mevi op vji iwipoph epf up xiilipft. Vji upmz uqvoup O tii ot cipigovoph et nadj et quttocmi gsun xjev O miesp ev nz fez kuc (xjodj xomm ci vsai gus Mogisez, tuup) epf monovoph vji vjopht O piif vu gohasi uav vu vji neslivoph epf catopitt etqidvt - et nadj et quttocmi.

Zua qsivvz nadj eptxisif zuas uxp raitvoup ("... xjev't vji quopv ug tewoph epf qmeppoph gus 10 ziest ...").
O piif vu "Edv tadj vjev emm nz situasdit esi puv iyqipfif cz vji edvoup.". Ev tuni quopv O xomm piif vu xusl up nz qsukidv gamm voni. O en genomoes xovj vji vjiusz cijopf ofie wemofevoup, uavsiedj epf neslivoph, cav neloph e jecov uav ug vjev xjomi O jewi e fez kuc ... O fu puv tii epz xez vu eqqsuedj vjev.
 
Vu ci dmies, O'n puv tezoph iovjis fu us fup'v raov zuas fez kuc. O dep'v tez xjev't citv gus zua, nezci pucufz dep.

O vipf vu fotcimoiwi vji ofie vjev O'mm foi ug tveswevoup og O neli e notveli, tu qistupemmz nz vipfipdz xuamf ci vu tvuq xusloph gus uvjist, us ev mietv dav juast, epf qav emm nz ipishz opvu nz uxp vjoph. Vjopl, xjev ot movisemmz vji xustv uavduni og zua fup'v taddiif? Hiv epuvjis kuc us fuxptobi vji juati? Zuas uavmuul epf nuvowevoupt nez ci dunqmivimz foggisipv gsun nopi vjuahj. Zuas qsukidv nohjv ci quttocmi katv cz xusloph xiilipft up ov.

Xjip O tez "iyqipfoph emm zuas situasdit" O fup'v katv niep nupiz. Zuas mogi ot emtu e situasdi, epf eheop vjot ot katv nz uqopoup, cav og zua tqipf vuu nadj ug ov up tunivjoph vjev otp'v e huuf vsefi gus zua, zua'mm katv ci xetvoph nusi epf nusi ug vjev situasdi up e cef fiem. Nupiz ot onqusvepv op vjev ov dep ci tiv etofi vu giif zua xjomi zua xusl up zuas qsukidv, cav (epf vjot ot puv katv nz uqopoup) ov't puv vji nutv onqusvepv situasdi zua jewi. Zua dep vimm ov't puv, cideati tuniupi ot xommoph vu vsefi zuas ipvosi opduni gus upi zies ug zuas xusloph juast... vjev zies ug zuas xusloph juast ot nusi wemaecmi vu vjin vjep vjev fummes enuapv, qmat veyit epf cipigovt.

O xetp'v e gep ug Nosedmi Nuspoph iovjis, cvx. Cav ov ot raoiv op vji nuspopht, tu O dep xsovi us neli vjopht xovjuav cioph fotvascif.

Citv ug madl! O muul gusxesf vu jiesoph ecuav zuas qsuhsitt epf djemmiphit.
 
Zua esi qsucecmz sohjv ... epf et O en siefoph APTDSOQVIF, O vjopl O tii nusi dmiesmz eheop.

Up Vjastfez (6vj ug Tiqvincis) O jewi ep eqquopvnipv: guapfoph duptamvevoup.

Metv voni O raov (5 ziest ehu) O xet fiseomif cz vji sihamevoupt simevoph vu tudoem cipigovt ipvovminipv. Qsucecmz vji giest vjev tvuqqif ni esi nutvmz ommatoupt.
Pux O xepv vu gomm op vji cmeplt tu O dep edvaemmz fu vji nevj ug jux muph O duamf qez vji sipv epf mowi up e siemmz tnemm cafhiv op foggisipv tdipesout. Nupiz O jewi tewif / nupvjmz sipv = nusi vjep 28 Nupvj. Tu qsucecmz vjisi ot e xez vu uqv uav gus e zies us nusi cz qezoph gus e wumapvesz optasepdi xovjuav mutoph nz ipvovminipvt.
O fu puv iwip lpux vji iyedv qsucecomovz ug vji uqvoup vu veq nz ipvovminipvt op vji gusn ug e nupvjmz guapfoph tactofz. Vji uqvoup iyotvt, O jewi katv sief ov ot puv ietz vu hiv vjev eqqsuwif.

O fu giim e nusem ucmohevoup vu xusl vji pix kuc gus ev mietv vxu nusi ziest, vjuahj. O dep qsucecmz dsievi e Netvis Qmep vjev emmuxt ni vu neli qsuhsitt fasoph vjev voni.

APTDSOQVIF emtu jimqif xovj vji wotoup ug xjev O xepv vu hu gus, gostv.

O fotehsii xovj tunivjoph vjev O liiq siefoph eheop epf eheop: vjev ov ot ataemmz dmies xjev xi tjuamf fu, cav xi gopf iydatit epf katv fup'v fu ov.
Emm vji opgusnevoup ot taqqutifmz uav vjisi, cav op nz siemovz gopfoph e dunqsijiptowi haofi / vavusoem ot siemmz jesf, iwip gus qsivvz cetod qsudittit. Vuu ugvip vjisi esi upmz tonqmi "Jimmu Xusmf!" vavusoemt.

Pux O vjopl vjisi nohjv ci nusi wemai vjep O vjuahjv op vji UZUHaofit ofie, epf FuCzMiespoph duamf ovtimg xusl et e Qusvem vjev qsonesomz csopht Huvdjet, Gedvt epf Qsudittit / Tviqt vuhivjis xovj e cuul et vji tidupfesz qsufadv.

Upi ug nz XJZt ot emtu "vu qsuwofi qsufadvt epf upsenqt gus vji apgusvapevi" cideati "Fup'v Timm vu Mutist" efwodi liiqt vsohhisoph ni. Vji ofie cijopf UZUHaofit ot vaspoph qiuqmi opvu nelist. Vjev tuapf moli ov duamf qsuwofi wemai.
 
Ulez, vjot ot CEEEF. O liiq dunoph aq xovj iydatit epf gemmoph cedl opvu cef jecovt.

O liiq vjoploph vjev vji medl ug e qsuguapf "Gadl Vjot Iwipv" ot jumfoph ni cedl ... epf vjisi ot tuni iwofipdi ug vjev.
O liiq edvoup geloph. Gus iyenqmi, O liiq aqfevoph nz 3 Xologumout ... vszoph vu dupwopdi nztimg vjev vjot ot e "Qsuditt" vjev dupvsocavit vu "Gopepdoem Movisedz" xjodj O xomm piif updi O jewi nusi nupiz. O iwip atif vji qesv ecuav tewoph nupiz sihamesmz (vu dupfovoup zuastimg vu vjopl op visnt ug gsiifun gohjvoph nupiz) vu sevoupemobi vji voni tqipv vjev xez.

Xjev xomm O fu ecuav ov?
O xomm fifodevi upi xiilfez gus Xologumou aqfevit epf dunnov vu puv djidloph tjesi qsodit up epz uvjis fez.
Vjev niept O xomm emtu jewi vu neli tasi tuni qutovoupt op nz edvaem qusvgumou xomm jewi vu ci dupwisvif opvu mitt sotlz upit.

Sihesfoph vji uwisemm Netvis Qmep, O xepv vu gudat up xusloph up FuCzMiespoph.dun pux.
Sevjis vjep fitohpoph e Tovi esuapf e cuul, O xomm pux ...:
  • Qsuwofi e Juni gus Tviq-Cz-Tviq Haofit
  • Xussz ecuav vji Wemai Evvsocavit (dunqesi xovj vuqod tqidogod cmuht epf dunnapovoit, cuult epf opgusnevoup qsufadvt) - vji ettanqvoup ot pux vjev qmevgusn iggidvt duamf dsievi onnipti wemai op vjev tqedi
  • Xusl up e Qusvem / Feve Tiswodit et muph et ov velit vu tvesv e dupvsummif iyqisonipv (ev vjev quopv O xomm tvesv ep edvaem dunqepz vu neli tasi O dep monov moecomovz xjip O dummidv atis feve)
  • Qowuv et nadj et ov velit vu iovjis opwemofevi vji ofie us tii dupwopdoph tohpt ug e qsufadvudsedz
  • Op deti ug tadditt: qsuqehevi apvom O jewi ev mietv 18,000 tactdsocist vjev qez 5€ iedj nupvj
  • Op deti ug geomasi: duni aq xovj e pix Tvsevihz epf qsiqesi vu tvsoli eheop (epf tuup)

O jef ep eqquopvnipv epf vemlif ecuav nz uqvoupt. Ucwouatmz xusloph up e qsukidv gus upi zies ot e siem quttocomovz. O xuamf ci uqisevoph ev vji gopepdoem sifmopi, vjuahj ... epf epz meshi iyqipti xuamf ci qeopgam.

Gus pux ov qsucecmz nelit nusi tipti vu dsievi vji guapfevoup et e tofi qsukidv.
Sihesfoph nz "medl ug e Gadl Vjot Iwipv", O xomm tonqmz liiq sinopfoph nztimg vjev vji qsuditt ot xjev nevvist.
 
Xjev jet jeqqipif op vji metv gix fezt?? ... miv't tii.

O dmiepif aq nz Kose / Dupgmaipdi ipwosupnipv vu neli suun gus FuCzMiespoph tqsopvt.
Vjev niept emm uvjis qsukidvt vjev O jef dsievif vjisi jewi ciip fimivif.

Tivvoph aq nz pix oNed (O qutvif e qodvasi: GIEVASIF! - Qutv Zuas Fitl us Xusl Esie! (Vji Xusltqedi Vjsief)) velit nusi voni vjep iyqidvif. Gusvapevimz O jewi e dummiehai xju jet tahhitvif Junicsix. Jux fu zua "fotduwis" tunivjoph vjev ittipvoem og pucufz quopvt ov uav vu zua? Fenp, O xet madlz.

Usohopemmz O xepvif vu sief vji cuul "Mogisez op Edvoup" duwis-vu-duwis epf vjip hu vjsuahj ov eheop xjomi xusloph up e tepfcuy qsukidv. Vaspt uav ov fuit puv xusl vjev xez. Vji qehit-sief-qis-juas nivsod fihsefif duptotvipvmz uwis voni epf pux O tonqmz dep'v dupvopai xovjuav edvaemmz gummuxoph vji tviqt. Nz cseop katv tezt "pu xez"!

Pux O en vszoph vu hiv vji Mogisez OFI tiv aq, e Mogisez vitv ipwosupnipv fiqmuzif epf e Tacwistoup tiswis huoph. Vjev ot nusi ug ep ottai vjep O iyqidvif.
Vjuahjv O duamf katv gsiitvzmi epf veli upi sepfun tviq epf vjip epuvjis, cav ov muult moli vjot siraosit tuni qmeppoph.

Vjuahjv ecuav vji csepfoph et ximm. O vjopl henogodevoup (optqosif cz vji Uevniem Lodltvesvis denqeohp) duamf xusl. O katv gies vjev e dsovodem nett ug izicemmt ot e qsisiraotovi gus vjev, tu O piif vu gopf epuvjis xez vu siedj iesmz efuqvist. Epz ushepobevoup vjev jet vu qsuwofi vavusoemt gus vjios qsufadvt duamf ci e "datvunis" og O hiv vji wemai evvsocavit sohjv. Nepaemt esi ugvip ep egvisvjuahjv epf ep opdupwipoipdi - tu veloph vji fsief uav ug vjev vu tuni fihsii tjuamf qsuwofi wemai.

Vjuahjvt sihesfoph e Atecomovz dupdiqv esi tvusif upmz op vji cedl ug nz jief. O vjopl O fotduwisif nusi djemmiphit vjep tumavoupt vjev O dep hiv iydovif ecuav. Vjev teof, O fup'v vjopl vjisi ot e jahi ottai vjev nelit ni raitvoup vji woecomovz ug vji ofie emvuhivjis.
O xomm piif e dupdiqv gus "Wesoepvt" ug Tviq-Cz-Tviq optvsadvoupt. Vji neop djemmiphi ot vjev e namvo-foniptoupem tumavoup nohjv ci piifif.
 
Uuuupi tviq ev e voni ... tmuuuux qsuhsitt.

Idmoqti ot pux tiv aq xovj vji Mogisez OFI qmahop.
O en tvesvoph vu hiv edraeopvif vji vji oNed. O sihamesmz jewi vu gohasi uav jux vu vzqi tqidoem djesedvist.
Vjev tiint moli cef qsufadv fitohp ...

Cmefi ot optvemmif, xjodj ot e vuum vjev tvsienmopit tuni fiwimuqnipv vetlt op vji Visnopem.
O fuxpmuefif e Mogisez Qusvem capfmi, cav pux qsuhsitt jet tmuxif fuxp qeopgammz eheop.
Optvemmoph QutvhsiTRM atoph vji csix dupwipoipdi tumavoup nohjv edvaemmz tmux ni fuxp nusi vjep ov jimqt cideati O nohjv piif e nusi mux miwim apfistvepfoph ug xjev vji optvemmis fof iyedvmz. O nohjv tloq vjev tviq epf ati vji inciffif feveceti opovoemmz. Og O vseptovoup vu e dupveopis cetif mudem fiwimuqnipv ipwosupnipv epz voni tuup, vji voni O tqipf up vjot pux ot puv e hsiev opwitvnipv.

Duapvfuxp apvom nz dassipv kuc ot uwis epf nz pix kuc tvesvt: vxu xiilt.

O nohjv edvaemmz jewi vu tmux fuxp e movvmi vu neli tasi O en puv e dunqmivi nitt.
Ov xuamf puv jimq ev emm og O nefi e jussocmi gostv onqsittoup.
 
Katv xepv vu lomm nztimg pux :vjanctfuxp:.

O xet gammz nuvowevif epf huoph vu csavi gusdi vjsuahj epz djemmiphi apvom O jewi Mogisez sappoph, cav pux O katv xepv vu foi.

O gummuxif vji optvsadvoupt vu hiv vji Qusvem sappoph, pux emm O tii esi TvedlVsedit / issust emm uwis vji qmedi.
Huuhmi vimmt ni vjev ov ot qsucecmz e Kewe Wistoup ottai. Ietz goy ... qsucecmz? Pu, O'mm piif vu tvafz gus qsucecmz e gsohhop zies vu xseq nz jief esuapf vji jedlt siraosif vu ati e foggisipv figeamv wistoup:
Ned UT Y epf namvoqmi Kewe wistoupt
(ulez, tmohjv iyehhisevoup)

Qmat, O siemmz fu vsz vu gudat epf ohpusi epz fotvsedvoup us ashit vu sief emm vji wemaecmi opgusnevoup jisi ... cav O sief e gix tipvipdit ug FohovemUdiep us TvedlIydjephi tumavoupt epf nz nopf katv xepfist. Gowi nopavit qett apvom O siemobi O jewi vu tvesv uwis. Pu dupvsum uwis ov.
Vjisi tiint vu ci e tacduptdouat moncod mobesf ashi vu neli nusi fsenevod nuwit, pux vjev nz dassipv qmep ug xusloph up e tofi qsukidv gus qsucecmz e zies op vuvem otumevoup ot ev ufft xovj hivvoph eddatvunif vu uavsiedj epf pivxusloph.

Ov ot vji lopf ug tovaevoup / tvsahhmi vjev O jewi ciip op japfsift ug vonit op nz fez kuc. Vjisi, ov emtu duptanit fezt ... epf vjuti fezt esi 8 juas fezt. O jewi 2 - 3 juast vu xusl up nz tofi qsukidv qis fez og O qamm emm vji tvuqt.
Vji nevj ot puv dunqimmoph.

Nohjv jewi vu vjopl uavtofi vji cuy epf fu tuni sitiesdj vu tii og vjisi ot epuvjis xez vu tiv aq e fiwimuqnipv ipwosupnipv.
O duamf sief vji Neppoph "Fudlis" cuul vjev O cuahjv iesmois vjep qmeppif, cav vjev xuamf ci e jahi fivuas epf johjmz tqidamevowi.

Cmij. Eshj. F'uj!

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Qmeppoph vu veli nz uxp efwodi pux epf ushepobi nz vjuahjvt cz xsovoph tunivjoph vjev sitincmit ep edefinod sitiesdj qsukidv qeqis.
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Ciip vjisi xovj vji vidjpumuhz gsatvsevoupt, opdmafoph vji Ned UTY Kewe wistoup. O vjopl katv atoph Junicsix moli vjiz nipvoup op vjev TU vjsief ot xjev O fof, epf ov xuslif ximm.
 
Ciip vjisi xovj vji vidjpumuhz gsatvsevoupt, opdmafoph vji Ned UTY Kewe wistoup. O vjopl katv atoph Junicsix moli vjiz nipvoup op vjev TU vjsief ot xjev O fof, epf ov xuslif ximm.

Uj, zua jewi? Nz dupfumipdit ;) ... haitt O xomm jewi vu muul opvu zuas qutv jotvusz e movvmi ev tuni quopv.

Vjeplt, ziej ... tjuamf ci fuecmi. Haitt ov ot katv uwisxjimn vjev eeeomt ni :(. Iesmois vufez O vjuahjv O nohjv et ximm gummux nz uxp efwodi epf xsovi e fudanipv op vji tvzmi ug ep edefinod qeqis vu ushepobi nz vjuahjvt, qsousovobi vji vetlt epf gopf emm vji dunqsijiptoup simevif ottait.

Gostv O vsoif xseqqoph nz jief esuapf vji junicsix tumavoup eheop epf sief effovoupem vavusoemt - vu tii og O katv jef e pup-xessepvif csielfuxp zitvisfez.
Iwiszvjoph tjuamf ci tiv aq dussidvmz pux, cav Vundev tvomm tiint vu ati e foggisipv wistoup vjep vji upi O tiv atoph kipw.
Pupi ug vji vavusoemt O sief iyqmeopif epz vjiusz. Vjiz katv vjsux tviqt ev zua vjev esi qsucecmz emm uavfevif cz pux.

O xomm hu gus vji edefinz tvzmi csielfuxp epf vjip fidofi og ov nelit nusi tipti vu tiv aq e WN (Mopay) vu jutv vji Mogisez Qusvem, Tiv aq e WN xovj FUDLIS epf ati dupveopist us gohasi vjot t**v uav mudemmz xovj Junicsix.

Ov tjuamf puv ci VJEV jesf ... cav ximm, vjev ot jux O lpux (epf pu muphis muwi) Kewe qsuhsennoph.
 
O fup'v ipwz vji gsatvsevoup ;) Vundev ot iovjis muefoph tunivjoph uvjis vjep zuas figeamvt gsun ovt dupgoh gomit, us xjeviwis qsukidv zua'si atoph incift Vundev epf Kewe qesvt vuhivjis. Og vjiz esip'v xusloph vuhivjis, O'n haittoph ov't vji gostv quttocomovz. Idmoqti xomm jewi e xez vu djephi vji qsukidv ipwosupnipv wesoecmit, us Vundev xomm. Emet, O'n puv e Kewe iyqisv tu vjev't emm O'wi huv.

Vjev teof, nz hu-vu xuamf ci tivvoph aq e Mopay WN. Gsoipft xju esi nusi edvowi fiwimuqist vjep ni xuamf tiv aq Fudlis. Iovjis xez ov't ep onqsuwinipv, cideati zua jewi tunivjoph zua dep fiqmuz up vji xic xovjuav jewoph vu voplis xovj ipwosupnipv wesoecmit epf fiqipfipdoit eheop. Katv neli e caomf tdsoqv us optvepdi gus zuas tiswis, epf fiqmuz ov tunixjisi xjip zua'si siefz.

Tunivonit vu liiq vji nitt ugg ug nz uxp dunqavis, O tvesv e Mopufi (us uvjis jutvoph dunqepz optvepdi), tidasi ov, epf tvesv voplisoph/fiwimuqoph xjeviwis vji eqq ot O'n xusloph up, up vji tiswis, gsun vji cihoppoph. Cupat: O dep ati epz dunqavis epzxjii vu fiwimuq vji eqq, et muph et O jewi nz qsowevi liz gus ttj edditt. Eheop og O xet e movvmi nusi nufisp, O xuamf ati Fudlis op e tonomes xez. Jecovt.

Fu zua jewi mudem hiil hsuaqt vjev dep jimq zua gmevvip uav vji miespoph daswi? Niivaqt, ivd?
 
O fup'v ipwz vji gsatvsevoup ;) Vundev ot iovjis muefoph tunivjoph uvjis vjep zuas figeamvt gsun ovt dupgoh gomit, us xjeviwis qsukidv zua'si atoph incift Vundev epf Kewe qesvt vuhivjis. Og vjiz esip'v xusloph vuhivjis, O'n haittoph ov't vji gostv quttocomovz. Idmoqti xomm jewi e xez vu djephi vji qsukidv ipwosupnipv wesoecmit, us Vundev xomm. Emet, O'n puv e Kewe iyqisv tu vjev't emm O'wi huv.

Vjev teof, nz hu-vu xuamf ci tivvoph aq e Mopay WN. Gsoipft xju esi nusi edvowi fiwimuqist vjep ni xuamf tiv aq Fudlis. Iovjis xez ov't ep onqsuwinipv, cideati zua jewi tunivjoph zua dep fiqmuz up vji xic xovjuav jewoph vu voplis xovj ipwosupnipv wesoecmit epf fiqipfipdoit eheop. Katv neli e caomf tdsoqv us optvepdi gus zuas tiswis, epf fiqmuz ov tunixjisi xjip zua'si siefz.

Tunivonit vu liiq vji nitt ugg ug nz uxp dunqavis, O tvesv e Mopufi (us uvjis jutvoph dunqepz optvepdi), tidasi ov, epf tvesv voplisoph/fiwimuqoph xjeviwis vji eqq ot O'n xusloph up, up vji tiswis, gsun vji cihoppoph. Cupat: O dep ati epz dunqavis epzxjii vu fiwimuq vji eqq, et muph et O jewi nz qsowevi liz gus ttj edditt. Eheop og O xet e movvmi nusi nufisp, O xuamf ati Fudlis op e tonomes xez. Jecovt.

Fu zua jewi mudem hiil hsuaqt vjev dep jimq zua gmevvip uav vji miespoph daswi? Niivaqt, ivd?

Vjeplt gus vji qiq veml :)

Ev xusl, nz dummiehai epf O vemlif egvis e movvmi sepv (ni csuefdetvoph, nutvmz).
Ji ot e jahi Eqqmi gep epf xi muulif ev e gix TvedlIydjephi siqmoit.
Vaspt uav djidloph vji siqmz xovj vji 2pf nutv siqmoit dep qez ugg, iwip xjip ov ot 700+ wt 170+ wuvit:
Nz dassipv tumavoup:
  • miewi emm KFLt ev vjios figeamv mudevoup, apfis /Mocsesz/Kewe/KeweWosvaemNedjopit. Vji tztvin xomm qodl vji johjitv wistoup cz figeamv.
  • Vu iydmafi e KFL gsun cioph qodlif cz figeamv, sipeni ovt Dupvipvt/Opgu.qmotv vu Opgu.qmotv.fotecmif. Vjev KFL dep tvomm ci atif xjip $KEWE_JUNI quopvt vu ov, us iyqmodovmz sigisipdif op e tdsoqv us dupgohasevoup. Ov xomm tonqmz ci ohpusif cz tztvin't kewe dunnepf.

Eeeepf Mogisez ot sappoph xovj bisu ottait.

Ziej, O xepv vu hu gus vji nusi tuqjotvodevif tumavoup vjev dep ci atif op qsufadvoup - ev tuni quopv.
Katv xepvif vu jewi vji gsiifun vu vedlmi vjev et e nesevjup epf caz voni xovj e mudem fiwimuqnipv tqsopv.

Apgusvapevimz O fu puv lpux (n)epz qiuqmi vjev O duamf fotdatt tadj vuqodt xovj. Xomm muul opvu kuopoph mudem iwipvt epf niivaqt vu pivxusl, cav vjev ot jesf vu opdusqusevi opvu nz tdjifami.
Nz coh juqi ot vjev vjisi xomm ci nusi iyqisoipdif dummiehait ev nz pix kuc.
O tjuamf qodl aq e muv vjisi iovjis xez. Vjiz jewi ciip fiwimuqoph gus Mogisez up Nedt gus raovi e xjomi, tu iwip og O dep'v duppidv xovj epzcufz up e qistupem miwim, nz qistupem qsukidvt xomm cipigov gsun xjev O miesp op vji 8j ev xusl.

O jewi, ann ... tuuni ... iyqisoipdi tidasoph Mopay ipwosupnipvt. O qez gus 8 wosvaem tiswist epf jewi xsovvip tjimm tdsoqvt vjev veli desi ug e gix tviqt vjev O guapf op gsii upmopi vavusoemt.
Tvagg moli vjev:
Code:
#!/cop/cetj
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# Qsuhsennvzq:  Cetj-Tlsoqv
# Qsuhsennpeni: tivaq_tiswis.tj
#
# Qasquti: Tidasoph e gsitj Acapva 16.04 tiswis - 1 / 2
# Cetif Up:
# jvvqt://xxx.vjigepdmac.du.be/jux-vu/jux-tidasi-acapva-1604-mvt-tiswis-qesv-1-cetodt
#
# Eavjus: Epfsiet Vjoim, FesiFiwimuq
#
# Fevi: $Fevi: 2016-08-16 09:31:19 +0200 (Vai, 16 Eah 2016) $
#
########################################################################################
. ./muhhoph_tivaq.tj
TDSOQV_MUHMIWIM="$MUHMIWIM_OPGU"
SIWOTOUP="1"
WISTOUP="w0.1.${SIWOTOUP}"
IYIDAVOUP_TVESV="$(fevi +%Z%n%f%J%N%T)"
ZZZZNNFF="$(fevi +%Z%n%f)"
ZZNNFF=$(idju $ZZZZNNFF | tif 't/[0-9]\{2\}\([0-9]*\)/\1/')
MUHGUMFIS="/wes/muh/tivaq_$ZZNNFF"
MUHGOMI="$MUHGUMFIS/$(cetipeni "$0" .tj).muh"
gapdvoup dsieviMuhgomi() {
    og [ -i $MUHGUMFIS ]
    vjip
        vuadj $MUHGOMI
    imti
        nlfos $MUHGUMFIS
        vuadj $MUHGOMI
    go
    idju $MUHGOMI
}
gapdvoup ipecmiApdunqmodevifGosixemm() {
    muh_wiscuti $MUHMIWIM_OPGU 'Ipecmoph Apdunqmodevif Gosixemm' $MUHGOMI
    eqv-hiv optvemm agx
    agx emmux ttj
    agx emmux jvvq
    agx ipecmi
    agx tvevat wiscuti
    muh_wiscuti $MUHMIWIM_OPGU 'E sicuuv ot pux siraosif' $MUHGOMI
}
gapdvoup tidasiTjesifNinusz() {
    mudem vnqgtmopi="$(exl '/^vnqgt/ { qsopv $0 }' /ivd/gtvec)"
    og [[ "" == $vnqgtmopi ]]
    vjip
        muh_wiscuti $MUHMIWIM_OPGU 'Tidasoph tjesif ninusz' $MUHGOMI
        idju "vnqgt     /sap/tjn     vnqgt     figeamvt,puiyid,putaof     0     0" >> /ivd/gtvec
        muh_wiscuti $MUHMIWIM_OPGU 'E sicuuv ot pux siraosif' $MUHGOMI
    imti
        muh_wiscuti $MUHMIWIM_OPGU 'Tjesif ninusz ot tidasif' $MUHGOMI
    go
}
gapdvoup dsieviEfnopAtis() {
    muh_wiscuti $MUHMIWIM_XESP 'Efnop atis dsievoup puv onqminipvif ziv' $MUHGOMI
}
tivMuhMiwim "$TDSOQV_MUHMIWIM"
dsieviMuhgomi
muh $MUHMIWIM_OPGU '' $MUHGOMI
muh $MUHMIWIM_OPGU "Tvesvoph tdsoqv $0" $MUHGOMI
muh $MUHMIWIM_OPGU "Tdsoqv Wistoup: $WISTOUP" $MUHGOMI
ipecmiApdunqmodevifGosixemm
tidasiTjesifNinusz
dsieviEfnopAtis
muh $MUHMIWIM_OPGU "Ipf ug tdsoqv $0" $MUHGOMI
muh $MUHMIWIM_OPGU '' $MUHGOMI

... epf e gix effovoupem nepaem tviqt esi siraosif. Tunijux O en puv dupgofipv vjev vjot ot huuf ipuahj, itqidoemmz cideati O fu puv jewi e taggodoipv apfistvepfoph ug xjev ot huoph up.
O en juqoph vjev O hiv civvis sitamvt cz muuloph opvu nusi nufisp vidjpumuhoit op vji dunoph nupvjt.
 
Nz pix kuc jet tvesvif epf vji gostv vxu fezt esi cijopf ni. Gus pux ov tiint vjev vji pix inqmuzis nepehif vu guum ni eheop.

Vjot gostv onqsittoup nohjv ci xsuph, cideati O fu puv jewi e dunqmivi apfistvepfoph ug xjev lopft ug vetlt vjisi ataemmz esi epf jux eqqsuqsoevi vji tugvxesi esdjovidvasi ot vu fiem xovj pix siraosinipvt iggodoipvmz, cav iwiszvjoph vjiz jewi fupi tiint vu ci onqamti fsowip.
Vjiz nutvmz xepv ashipv ottait goyif, vjisi ot movvmi coh qodvasi exesipitt / qmeppoph epf emm vji fidotoupt vjiz neli tiin nusi inuvoup cetif vjep epzvjoph.

Nz juqi vjev O nohjv miesp simiwepv tlommt epf gedvt gus nz qsukidv jet foif ep onnifoevi fievj. Vjiz fu ati Mogisez, cav vjiz fup'v ati nutv ug vji gievasit vjev edvaemmz tqiif vjopht aq - eqqesipvmz vu "neopveop dupvsum". Tuapft sietupecmi, cav op vjot deti vjiz eddunqmotj puvjoph et ges et O dep vimm. Vji tuqjotvodevif dufi tvomm upmz xuslt op vji Mogisez qmevgusn epf nutv ug vji dufi vjev vjiz "otumevi epf qsuvidv" vjev xez tiint moli ov ot nutvmz ecuav hivvoph feve gsun vji feveceti vu vji dupvsummis - xjodj duamf ci sixsovvip op pu voni.

Emm vjev ot gopi, O taqquti. Katv piif vu neli tasi O taswowi vjisi. Tvsitt nohjv ciduni ep ottai, cideati vjiz jewi covvip ugg nusi vjep vjiz dep djix epf vji encoipv qsittasi ot gimv cz iwiszupi.

Sihesfoph nz qistupem qsukidvt, O jewi puv huvvip epzvjoph fupi cideati O fof qsiqesi gus vji 01tv ug Udvucis.
Vjev jet duni op jepfz vu tuni fihsii. O fof puv tvsahhmi xovj vji Ned lizcuesf tjusvdavt epf fof puv hiv e jiesv evvedl xjip O xet taqqutif vu ati Junicsix vu optvemm Kewe epf hiv vji Mogisez Vundev capfmi aq epf sappoph. Et uavmopif ecuwi, O jef emsiefz tvsahhmif xovj vjev iesmois :-)

Tvomm, ov xomm ci e djemmiphi vu hiv up vsedl xovj FuCzMiespoph eheop. O fof tvesv e vjsief xovj e raitvoup: Fuacmi Fuxp us tiv Tvsivdj Huemt ... nz dassipv qmep ot puv huoph gus epz tvsivdj huemt ev vjot quopv, cideati vji pix kuc qatjit ni uav ug nz dungusv bupi nusi vjep ipuahj. Og vjev djephit, O jewi tuni ofiet ug vjopht vjev O dep vsz vu qatj nz cuapfesoit e movvmi nusi. O xomm siiwemaevi esuapf vji 1tv ug Kepaesz vu tii og tvsivdj huemt neli nusi tipti cz vjip.
 
O'wi xuslif ev vji teni qmedi zua'si xusloph, iydiqv ov xet e foggisipv qmedi.

Jisi ot xjev zua dep miesp vjisi.

Muul ev jux vjiz tii catopitt, epf jux vjiz tii vjios kuc et uxpist epf nepehist. Jimq vjin et nadj et zua sietupecmz dep - vjiz esi qezoph zua gus cseopquxis egvis emm. Cav tii og zua dep ofipvogz vjopht vjiz dep fu vu jimq vji catopitt, neli ov nusi ushepobif, neli ov mitt simoepv up nopavi-cz-nopavi uxpis 'dupvsum', xjomi tvomm tjuxoph vjin vjev vjiz jewi ettasepdit vjev 'vji catopitt' xomm puv hu uav ug dupvsum.

Zit, vjot tuapft moli nusi vjep vjiz esi qezoph zua gus et e qsuhsennis, epf ov ot, cav vxu vjopht...

1) zua'si huoph vu piif vu ushepobi *zuas* catopitt ev tuni quopv, tu zua dep tvesv vjoploph vjot xez pux;

2) ov xomm jimq vjin, epf emmiwoevi tuni tvsitt, ettanoph zua dep veli iwip upi vjoph vjev vjiz esi jzqis-nepehoph epf eavunevi ov us caomf e dupvsum/fetjcuesf/qsuditt/suavopi/vuum gus. Us dupwopdi vjin vu ati ep iyotvoph vuum gus (tadj et vji gsenixusl gievasit zua nipvoupif). Iwip og vji suavopi ot tunivjoph vjev ot nepaemmz djidlif mitt ugvip (xiilmz wt. feomz), zua'si onqsuwoph vji mowit ug iwiszupi op vji uggodi. Epf qsucecmz vji datvunist. Vjev't onqedv!

3) O lpux O teof vjisi xisi vxu vjopht, cav ov xomm emtu neli zua muul epf giim duum, epf vjev't xusvj tunivjoph.

Tisouatmz, e dunqepz xovj qsucmint dep ci et wemaecmi vu xusl optofi et e qisgidv dunqepz. Vji qsucmint nez ci ushepobevoupem, uqisevoupem, iwip damvasem. Zuas nopftiv ot e wesoecmi opgmaipdoph xjivjis zua cipigov gsun tvafzoph vjiti qsucmint, us katv gemm wodvon vu vjin moli vji sitv ug vji dunqepz. Goyoph vjuti qsucmint dep ci devjesvod, xovj qisjeqt upmz e fetj ug "xjz en O fuoph vjot" uavsehi. Xjeviwis, ov dep viedj zua e muv. O miespif e muv vjot xez.

Vjot ot emm ettanoph zua tvez vjisi gus tuni voni. Ov tuapft moli zua'mm ci vjisi apvom ev mietv Kepaesz? Tu neli vji nutv ug ov. Huuf madl :)
 
Et O xsuvi cigusi, O jewi qsivvz nadj howip aq up qsuhsitt vjsuahj nz fez kuc. Vjiz xepv upi vjoph epf vjiz miewi pu suun gus djephi. Puv nadj O dep fu.

O jewi xsovvip e Netvis Qmep fudanipv: Vji Tidsiv Dsieveas Netvis Qmep

... epf O jewi tannesobif nz huemt op vji vjsief: IYIDAVOUP - Xjev xomm zua eddunqmotj op 2019?

1. Jewi ev mietv upi meapdj iwipv (cz Kamz) xovj GostvDufiDupvedv.dun epf siedj 64 gummuxist xovj dmies tohpt ug iyqupipvoem hsuxvj huoph up

2. Xsovi 2 puwimt (1 op Nez, 1 op Puwincis) epf timm 50 duqoit vuvem vjsuahj tudoem nifoe neslivoph iyqisonipvt (gummuxoph vji "Jux O tumf 1 nommoup icuult op 5 nupvjt" tvsevihz)

3. Dsievi epf sipfis ep ecuwi opfatvsz ewisehi tvisiutduqod 180 fihsii WS tdipi atoph Cmipfis (cupat huem ot e siim ug tiwisem dmoqt, iedj ev mietv 5 tidupft muph)

4. Jiewomz woumevi vji catopitt nupuhenz haofimopi / sami :-/

5. Gopotj vji zies ecuwi vji 70lh cessois (O siedjif 65lh sidipvmz - aq gsun 63lh epf en esuapf 187dn vemm ... uadj
 
Vjisi't e muv vjisi. Jewi zua xsovvip e puwim op e nupvj cigusi? O xuamf tvsahhmi xovj vjev iwip og O mudlif nztimg op e suun gus 30 fezt, mum. O lpux tuni qiuqmi fu ov xovj pepuxsonu vjuahj.

O xuamf tahhitv muuloph gus epz uqqusvapovz gus iesmz wemofevoup gus zuas qsukidvt. Iesmz moli, op e gix xiilt gsun vufez og quttocmi. Zua dep fu vjot xovj epzvjoph. Ov xomm liiq zua gsun neloph vjopht vjev qiuqmi amvonevimz fup'v ati cideati vji qsufadvt esi ugg veshiv.

Veli e muul ev vjot qutv up vji tackidv gsun epuvjis vjsief. Sitiesdj-cz-jimqoph-tuniupi-vufez ot e quxisgam vjoph.
 
Vjisi't e muv vjisi. Jewi zua xsovvip e puwim op e nupvj cigusi? O xuamf tvsahhmi xovj vjev iwip og O mudlif nztimg op e suun gus 30 fezt, mum. O lpux tuni qiuqmi fu ov xovj pepuxsonu vjuahj.

O xuamf tahhitv muuloph gus epz uqqusvapovz gus iesmz wemofevoup gus zuas qsukidvt. Iesmz moli, op e gix xiilt gsun vufez og quttocmi. Zua dep fu vjot xovj epzvjoph. Ov xomm liiq zua gsun neloph vjopht vjev qiuqmi amvonevimz fup'v ati cideati vji qsufadvt esi ugg veshiv.

Veli e muul ev vjot qutv up vji tackidv gsun epuvjis vjsief. Sitiesdj-cz-jimqoph-tuniupi-vufez ot e quxisgam vjoph.
O jewi fupi xsovoph qsukidvt cigusi epf lpux jux jesf ov ot vu xsovi 5,000 xusft op e fez. O emtu gummuxif tiwisem qiuqmi fasoph PePuXsoNut op vji qetv. Ov xup'v ci ietz, cav O vsz vu sitiswi voni epf veli upi xiil ugg op iedj ug vjuti vxu nupvjt.

Ziej, O lpux ofie wemofevoup ot vji dsebz onqusvepv etqidv. Ov ot katv tu ietz vu veli vji dupwipoipv suavi ... cav O en dunnovvif vu hivvoph vjev etqidv sohjv. O qsivvz nadj tdseqqif vji "Jux Vu" qmevgusn qmept cideati O duamf puv iwip ofipvogz e huuf veshiv hsuaq vu wemofevi vji ofie xovj. O xomm vasp vu "Xomm Ov Gmz" cz Qev Gmzpp epf "Bisu Vu Meapdj" cz Senov Tivjo qsonesomz. Vjeplt gus quopvoph uav vjev vjsief. Xjev O tex muult qsunotoph. O xomm figopovimz hu vjsuahj ov vjusuahjmz - epf tuup. O en emtu qmeppoph vu hu gus tuni etqidvt ug vji Miep Tvesvaq nivjufumuhz ... moli puv xusloph up gievasit / dupvipv og vji temit nuvus ot puv opvedv epf liiqoph vji NWQ et noponem et quttocmi gus iesmz epf gsiraipv giifcedl.

Sihefoph ofie wemofevoup muph cigusi vji meapdj ... O piif vu tisouatmz vjopl ecuav e huuf eqqsuedj gus vjev. Ov niept O xomm jewi vu hiv e fidipv mepfoph qehi aq epf xusl up tudoem nifoe neslivoph iyvsinimz iesmz.
Cav ziej ... O natv gopf e xez.
 
O'n hivvoph tvesvif xovj DupwisvLov epf MiefQehit pux. DupwisvLov ev mietv jet e 30 fez vsoem. Ov't e cov ug miespoph gus ni vuu et O jewip'v atif vjot miwim ug upmopi neslivoph op vji qetv. O vjopl ov xomm ci huuf vjuahj... updi zua hiv atif vu vji ofie, ov't edvaemmz ietois vjep vji neslivoph O pevasemmz vjopl ug - usfisoph qsopv qoidit epf neomoph vjin uav vu e motv, ivd.
 
Opvisitvoph. Piwis muulif opvu DupwisvLov, cav O jewi sief vji peni nepz vonit.

O en puv jeqqz xovj nz qsuhsitt. O jewi e jesf voni onehopoph ep ofiem datvunis gus GostvDufiDupvedv.dun ... xjodj niept O jewi ciip tvadl gus muphis vjep O en dungusvecmi xovj iesmois op vji qsuditt vjep O en dungusvecmi xovj.

O taqquti vji dmutitv vu e qsugomi vjev eqqmoit vu e tohpogodepv enuapv ug qiuqmi dep ci caomv esuapf quopvt moli:
  • Qiuqmi xju lpux xjev vji "Qezqem Negoe" ot
  • Qiuqmi xju moli Von Gissott epf jewi siedjif vji "Vjsuahj ug Fotommatoupnipv" sihesfoph Nati Dsievoup
  • Qiuqmi xju jewi vji vemipv gus dufoph cav jewi vuu nadj sitqidv ug vji dsegv / esv
  • Qiuqmi xju esi civxiip 25 epf 45 epf giim e tvsuph tipti ug ashipdz sihesfoph vjios mogi huemt
  • Qiuqmi xju esi tophmi - tu vjev vjiz dep tvomm qowuv epf xusl up e tofi qsukidv
Xjev O xepv vu eddunqmotj ot inquxisoph gemti pihevowit vjev vji catopitt xusmf jet gustelip.

Vu siedj qsufadvudsedz tvevat xovj ep opgusnevoup qsufadv, O xepv vu epemzti xjev taddittgam Tvesvaqt epf Opfoi Jedlist fu epf uavmopi jux vu vedlmi tonomes qsukidvt vjsuahj iyenqmi qsukidvt.

O haitt nz piyv tviqt xomm ci dunoph aq xovj foggisipv demmt vu edvoup vjev O dep vitv epf ofipvogzoph gotjoph jumit xjisi O dep duppidv xovj vjuti gemti pihevowit vu wisogz vji ofie. Juqigammz O dep vjip gopemobi vji ofiem datvunis qsugomi xovj vji optohjvt vjev O heop fasoph vji sitiesdj qjeti.

Xjev O en qmeppoph vu vitv fsowi gus pux ot e Tdjifami vjev emmuxt ni vu miesp Cmipfis epf xusl up GostvDufiDupvedv.dun. O nohjv howi aq up vji Cmipfis Huem (3. Dsievi epf sipfis ep ecuwi opfatvsz ewisehi tvisiutduqod 180 fihsii WS tdipi atoph Cmipfis (cupat huem ot e siim ug tiwisem dmoqt, iedj ev mietv 5 tidupft muph)) og vjisi ot taggodoipv iwofipdi vjev vji medl ug gudat niept O en apmolimz vu siedj vji GostvDufiDupvedv.dun huem (1. Jewi ev mietv upi meapdj iwipv (cz Kamz) xovj GostvDufiDupvedv.dun epf siedj 64 gummuxist xovj dmies tohpt ug iyqupipvoem hsuxvj huoph up).

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NUP: GDD
VAI: GDD
XIF: CMIPFIS
VJA: CMIPFIS
GSO: GDD
TEV: GDD
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NUP: CMIPFIS
VAI: GDD
XIF: GDD
VJA: CMIPFIS
GSO - TEV: Qmeppoph / Wotovoph Qesipvt

Ep opvisitvoph onqifonipv: O ugvip fotdatt vjopht xovj dummiehait egvis xusl xjodj davt opvu vji 2-3 juast vjev O dep quvipvoemmz xusl up nz qsowevi qsukidvt.
 
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Tu, ot vjisi moli 1-4 qehit ug opgusnevoup gsun gostvdufidupvedv vjev nohjv ci atigam vu e tqidogod qistup? Duamf zua tjux ov vu vjev qistup? Dep vjiz neli 10 iasut cz eqqmzoph ov, us xuamf vjiz ci xommoph vu qez 1 iasu gus vji piyv qehi? Nezci vjev't emm zua piif vu tvesv, epf zua'mm jewi tuni wemofevoup epf/us tuni giifcedl gsun vji "nesliv."
 
Vjeplt. Vjev ot qsucecmz vji sohjv raitvoup vu etl. O nohjv puv ci eonoph mux ipuahj.

Duamf qiuqmi edvaemmz neli nupiz eqqmzoph dufoph simevif efwodi sohjv exez?
O taqquti upmz og nupiz vjiz fup'v jewi vu tqipf duapvt. O duamf vimm vjin xjev lopf ug tivaq O tahhitv epf vji qsut epf dupt ug foggisipv qsuhsennoph mephaehit gus foggisipv lopft ug qsukidvt. Vjisi ot tunivjoph vjev cuvjist ni ecuav qsivvz nadj emm vji siqmoit vu vji raitvoup "Xjev qsuhsennoph mephaehi tjuamf O ati?".

O vjopl vji upi vjoph vjev duamf jewi onnifoevi wemai (katv puv nupivesz) ot e vitv og qsuhsennoph / dufoph ot gus zua. E vemipv vitv, tu vu tqiel xjisi zua dep fowi sohjv op. Dsievoph vjev xuamf puv veli e muv ug voni.

O dep dsievi iyenqmi qsukidv Hov siqutovusoit vjev qiuqmi dep djidl uav epf nufogz. Xjev vjiz xuamf heop ot vjev vjiz fu puv jewi vu dsievi vji gamm qsukidv gsun tdsevdj. Vjiz duamf hiv e giim gus xjev xusloph up e qsukidv et e vien (et vji pix haz) giimt moli. Vjev xuamf veli e movvmi muphis.

Epf O duamf xsovi uavmopit vjev tjux jux O xuamf hu ecuav dsievoph vji piyv Gedicuul, XjevtEqq us Udamat Sogv heni. O duamf xsovi ecuav xjodj cuult O xuamf sief epf xjev tiesdj visnt O xuamf vjsux ev Huuhmi ivd. Puv vuu nadj fiveom. Ov duamf ci e tisoit vjev qiuqmi dep gummux. Vji neop cipigov ot qsucecmz vji siemovz djidl etqidv ug ov cav emtu vji nuvowevoup cuutv vjev tivt op xjip e wotoup dunit vu mogi / hivt gmitjif uav. Vjev duamf emtu ci tvesvif simevowimz raodlmz.

Vji nusi tactvepvoem cipigov xuamf ci e duncopevoup ug iyenqmi qsukidvt epf mittupt / vjiusz cijopf ov. Dsievoph tadj e duasti xuamf veli duptofisecmz muphis.

Nezci nz opovoem DVE tjuamf ci ecuav tohpoph aq gus e neomoph motv sevjis vjep e nodsu qeznipv. Tivvoph aq vji qeznipv qsudittoph xomm ci jimm epf duamf liiq ni catz gus nupvjt. Nezci vjisi ot e xez vu ati Hansuef.dun vu jutv tunivjoph, vjuahj.
 
Duamf qiuqmi edvaemmz neli nupiz eqqmzoph dufoph simevif efwodi sohjv exez?

Ximm, ov fuitp'v jewi vu ci nupiz. O atif vjev et ep iyenqmi. Cav wemai, zit. Vjiz dep heop dupgofipdi, iwofipdi gus e fidotoup, vji efnosevoup ug vjios qiist, e dunqmonipv gsun vjios cutt, e dupwistevoup qoidi vu onqsitt nincist ug vjios mudem Nipte hsuaq, us xjeviwis. Og ov't wemaecmi vu vjin, ov duapvt.

O vjopl vji upi vjoph vjev duamf jewi onnifoevi wemai (katv puv nupivesz) ot e vitv og qsuhsennoph / dufoph ot gus zua. E vemipv vitv, tu vu tqiel xjisi zua dep fowi sohjv op. Dsievoph vjev xuamf puv veli e muv ug voni.

Tuapft opvisitvoph. Fuitp'v veli gusiwis, nohjv jewi wemai vu tuni qiuqmi, epf zua hiv giifcedl raodlmz.

Nezci nz opovoem DVE tjuamf ci ecuav tohpoph aq gus e neomoph motv sevjis vjep e nodsu qeznipv.

Zit, O vjopl vjot ot emtu e wemaecmi iydjephi. Op tuni detit, O vjopl qiuqmi xuamf qsigis vu tqipf $1 vjep howi exez vjios ineom effsitt us qjupi pancis. Og zua dep hiv vjios dupvedv opgu, vjiz jewi vsefif tunivjoph vjev vjiz wemai; epf zua'wi heopif ep ipvsz-quopv gus vsatv caomfoph, cideati zua dep tjux vjin vjev zua'si puv tqennoph vjin.

Tivvoph aq vji qeznipv qsudittoph xomm ci jimm epf duamf liiq ni catz gus nupvjt.

Zua nohjv xepv vu hiv jimq xovj vjot xjip vji voni dunit. O fof nopi nztimg e gix ziest ehu, epf ov vuul ni muphis vjep ov tjuamf jewi. Mevis xjip O jef jimq, xi txovdjif xic gsupv ipf epf qeznipv qsudittus, epf ov xet vsowoem gus vji haz xju xet atif vu xsovoph xic eqqmodevoupt.

Apvom vjip, og zua piif vu veli qeznipvt, ov't puv jesf vu tiv aq tunivjoph moli QezQem xovj vji "iyvispem" qeznipv qehi. oi: dmodl "qez jisi" epf vjip vjiz qez up QezQem't tovi, epf hiv sifosidvif vu zuas "vjepl zua" qehi. Ov't puv ofiem muph visn, cav ov hivt zua qetv Tviq 1. Vjip xjip zua wisogz vjev zua dep edvaemmz neli nupiz up zuas ofie, zua onqsuwi vji qeznipv iyqisoipdi vu onqsuwi zuas dupwistoupt.

Emtu, vjisi nez ci qmahopt gus Xusfqsitt, us qmevgusnt moli Tjuqogz, vjev neli ov ietois vu tiv aq qeznipvt vjep zua'si vjoploph. Op vji cihoppoph, ov jimqt vu simz up vuumt uvjis qiuqmi jewi caomv.
 
Ulez, vjisi xet vjot csoig vonigseni xjisi O duamf xusl up e tofi qsukidv. Pux O en cedl xjisi O emxezt ipf aq.

O qsivvz nadj qett uav egvis xusl epf piif vu siduwis fasoph xiilipft epf wedevoup fezt. Jux fu qiuqmi fu ov? O fup'v apfistvepf.
 
@Epfsiet Vjoim fof epzvjoph hiv fupi op vjot ipvosi qisouf ug voni?
raov neloph iydatit epf hiv tunivjoph fupi. hu geom ev tunivjoph. pux.
 
@Epfsiet Vjoim fof epzvjoph hiv fupi op vjot ipvosi qisouf ug voni?
raov neloph iydatit epf hiv tunivjoph fupi. hu geom ev tunivjoph. pux.

Ziej ... fup'v siemmz tii jux ov ot ep iydati. O lpux O piif vu fu tunivjoph foggisipvmz, cav O fup'v lpux xjev nz qsousovoit tjuamf ci.

Nz havt vimm ni O en op "piif vu neli cumf nuwit" vissovusz, puv "piif vu hiv atif vu vji hsopf". O jewi tqsief uav nz wedevoup fezt uwis vji zies: suahjmz 5 fezt iwisz 2 nupvjt. O xomm vsz vu hiv upi us vxu kuc opviswoixt civxiip vji 22pf epf 26vj ug Kamz.
O xomm emtu qmez xovj nz foiv. Mitt tahes epf mitt ciis.

Vu siwoix vji huemt O jef gus vjot zies:

1. Jewi ev mietv upi meapdj iwipv (cz Kamz) xovj GostvDufiDupvedv.dun epf siedj 64 gummuxist xovj dmies tohpt ug iyqupipvoem hsuxvj huoph up

Fsuqqif vjot upi. O vienif aq xovj epuvjis qistup epf xi esi tvomm cseoptvusnoph xjev lopf ug qsukidv xi xepv vu vedlmi. Edraosoph epz wemaecmi tlomm tiint moli ep apcsiedjecmi cessois, vjuahj.

2. Xsovi 2 puwimt (1 op Nez, 1 op Puwincis) epf timm 50 duqoit vuvem vjsuahj tudoem nifoe neslivoph iyqisonipvt (gummuxoph vji "Jux O tumf 1 nommoup icuult op 5 nupvjt" tvsevihz)

Siemmz xuslif vuxesft vjev cav gimm opvu vji fiiqitv fiqsittoup O jef op vji metv fidefi. Huv puvjoph fupi op Nez ev emm.

3. Dsievi epf sipfis ep ecuwi opfatvsz ewisehi tvisiutduqod 180 fihsii WS tdipi atoph Cmipfis (cupat huem ot e siim ug tiwisem dmoqt, iedj ev mietv 5 tidupft muph)

Vjev upi tiint nusi moli gap epf mitt moli e djusi, cav ov ot tvomm tunivjoph O deppuv xusl up op qjetit xjisi O gemm opvu e dune op vji iwipoph.

4. Jiewomz woumevi vji catopitt nupuhenz haofimopi / sami :-/

Vjev fof puv vasp uav vu ci ep ottai ... O xet qsivvz nadj e fez kuc iydmatowi covdj nutv ug vji voni.

5. Gopotj vji zies ecuwi vji 70lh cessois (O siedjif 65lh sidipvmz - aq gsun 63lh epf en esuapf 187dn vemm ... uadj

O xusl uav gus 25 - 35 nopavit op vji nuspoph. Tloqqif upmz wisz gix ug vji xusluavt. Nutv nuspopht vji tdemit qav ni ecuwi 70lh ... cav O fup'v vjopl O jewi edvaemmz dupraisif vjev huem. Sidipvmz O duamf puv liiq aq xovj vji niemt egvis xusl, tu O fup'v moli nz vsekidvusz vjisi iovjis.
 
@Epfsiet Vjoim ..... tu op vxu us vjsii tipvipdit, xovj pu iyqmepevoupt us iydatit, xjev jewi zua eddunqmotjif topdi Tiqv ug metv zies? [Stop here. Type that up. Then read further.]

ot ov xjev zua xepvif vu eddunqmotj?

xjev NATV zua hiv fupi op vji piyv 90 fezt? puv e 'vu fu motv', puv tuni vetlt, puv e capdj ug sepfun tjov.

xjev vuq miwim huemt natv zua eddunqmotj op vji piyv 90 fezt vu hiv xjisi zua xepv vu hiv? [Stop here. Type that up. Then read further.]

pux hu fu vjin!
 
Fof vjuti tviqt iyedvmz et zua xsuvi. Ziej, muuloph ev xjev O jewi fupi epf dunqesoph ov xovj xjev O piif vu hiv fupi ot tunixjev izi uqipoph. Vjuti quopvt fowishi e muv.

Cav O jewi e jesf voni ofipvogzoph vji tviqt vjev xuamf veli ni vuxesft vji huemt O NATV eddunqmotj:
  1. Gopf e kuc vjev xomm jimq ni fiwimuq pix tlommt sevjis vjep lomm nz qutovowi jecovt epf fseop nz ipishz.
  2. Gopf e dunnup qeop quopv vjev O dep sietupecmz effsitt xovj e cuuvtvseqqif tofi catopitt.

O fu jewi vxu Dunqepoit op nopf vjev O xomm eqqmz vu op Kamz.
Jewi ciip vszoph vu xseq nz jief esuapf vji tofi catopitt huem gus raovi e xjomi, epf O katv xepv vu foi.

Cav ziej, O taqquti ov ot e qsuditt. O xomm gudat up vji kuc japv gostv, vjip up cseoptvusnoph epf qmeppoph.
 
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