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Hey Y'all,

I have an idea for a branded product that I'm looking to execute on. I got the idea after my mom had purchased the product and complained that it was expensive. I don't know if I can make it cheaper, but the point is that I think people will buy it anyways. I found the generic product on Alibaba and its not on Aliexpress which I think is a good sign. The products all seem to have good overall reviews on Amazon, and seem to sell well at a variety of price points. I have a creative brand idea that I think could sell well over the competition by targeting a certain age group, and I'm thinking of targeting certain facebook groups when the time comes. I have zero experience in any of this.

So far I have contacted a supplier regarding custom packaging/templates. My plan was to order samples with the branded packaging. The packaging options aren't great though and they're absurdly expensive, so I was a bit disappointed at first. But it's probably a blessing in disguise because if the pricing was good then I was ready to settle on subpar packaging. My new plan is to source packaging separately and make sure I check out a few options. This also means that I will package the products myself instead of having the supplier send directly to Amazon FBA, which will actually be good for quality assurance. Once I get templates for a few packaging options I like, I'll have a few artists sketch up my packaging/logo idea. Whichever I like best, I’ll have them sketch up multiple templates for the different packaging suppliers.

Todos:
  • Figure out shipping/importing
  • Source packaging options/templates
  • Hire artist for packaging
  • Order product samples
  • Order packaging samples
  • Set up amazon seller account
Questions:

1) I’m a bit stuck on shipping. Before I get product quotes from these suppliers, I want to know what shipping options to ask for. From my understanding I can ask about air shipping vs sea shipping costs. But does the Alibaba seller usually handle shipping directly to my house or would it just be to a port in Canada? I’m only vaguely familiar with incoterms like FOB destination or shipping, etc. I’m not sure what the common shipping methods are to get the product from the supplier in China to my doorstep in Canada.

Reading the Q&A excerpt below, Walter suggests obtaining a quote on an FOB basis and a door to door basis. What type of FOB is this? Should I look into having a freight forwarder?

2) Is there any setup I need on the regulatory side of things for importing? I have come across terms like classifying goods, getting a business number, etc. I want to make sure I'm not breaking any rules, and I want to make sure I don't get blasted by duties/fees.

3) Not as important right now, but still wondering. If I sent a box of my products to Amazon FBA, do they repackage it for the sender? Like if I sent them a box of my products would they put each of my products in a mailer before shipping it off?


Excerpt from Walter Hays Q&A thread referenced for question #1:
  • “Obtain a quote from the supplier on both an FOB basis and a door to door basis. This applies whether it is a large or small shipment.
  • When quoted FOB, you should then contact a local (US) freight forwarder but you ask them to quote you door to door.
  • If you decide to accept the supplier's door to door quote, you place the order and the entire process will be done for you until the courier contacts you to tell you how much duty and tax you must pay, if any.
  • Once you pay that, they will deliver to you. If there is nothing to pay, the delivery truck will simply arrive at your door.”

I'm a bit stuck on the shipping and importing stuff, and it's making it hard for me to accurately cost out my product. I appreciate your time, thank you.
 
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Jiz Z'emm,

O jewi ep ofie gus e csepfif qsufadv vjev O'n muuloph vu iyidavi up. O huv vji ofie egvis nz nun jef qasdjetif vji qsufadv epf dunqmeopif vjev ov xet iyqiptowi. O fup'v lpux og O dep neli ov djieqis, cav vji quopv ot vjev O vjopl qiuqmi xomm caz ov epzxezt. O guapf vji hipisod qsufadv up Emocece epf ovt puv up Emoiyqsitt xjodj O vjopl ot e huuf tohp. Vji qsufadvt emm tiin vu jewi huuf uwisemm siwoixt up Enebup, epf tiin vu timm ximm ev e wesoivz ug qsodi quopvt. O jewi e dsievowi csepf ofie vjev O vjopl duamf timm ximm uwis vji dunqivovoup cz veshivoph e disveop ehi hsuaq, epf O'n vjoploph ug veshivoph disveop gedicuul hsuaqt xjip vji voni dunit. O jewi bisu iyqisoipdi op epz ug vjot.

Tu ges O jewi dupvedvif e taqqmois sihesfoph datvun qedlehoph/vinqmevit. Nz qmep xet vu usfis tenqmit xovj vji csepfif qedlehoph. Vji qedlehoph uqvoupt esip'v hsiev vjuahj epf vjiz'si ectasfmz iyqiptowi, tu O xet e cov foteqquopvif ev gostv. Cav ov't qsucecmz e cmittoph op fothaoti cideati og vji qsodoph xet huuf vjip O xet siefz vu tivvmi up tacqes qedlehoph. Nz pix qmep ot vu tuasdi qedlehoph tiqesevimz epf neli tasi O djidl uav e gix uqvoupt. Vjot emtu niept vjev O xomm qedlehi vji qsufadvt nztimg optvief ug jewoph vji taqqmois tipf fosidvmz vu Enebup GCE, xjodj xomm edvaemmz ci huuf gus raemovz ettasepdi. Updi O hiv vinqmevit gus e gix qedlehoph uqvoupt O moli, O'mm jewi e gix esvotvt tlivdj aq nz qedlehoph/muhu ofie. Xjodjiwis O moli citv, O’mm jewi vjin tlivdj aq namvoqmi vinqmevit gus vji foggisipv qedlehoph taqqmoist.

Vufut:
  • Gohasi uav tjoqqoph/onqusvoph
  • Tuasdi qedlehoph uqvoupt/vinqmevit
  • Josi esvotv gus qedlehoph
  • Usfis qsufadv tenqmit
  • Usfis qedlehoph tenqmit
  • Tiv aq enebup timmis edduapv
Raitvoupt:

1) O’n e cov tvadl up tjoqqoph. Cigusi O hiv qsufadv rauvit gsun vjiti taqqmoist, O xepv vu lpux xjev tjoqqoph uqvoupt vu etl gus. Gsun nz apfistvepfoph O dep etl ecuav eos tjoqqoph wt tie tjoqqoph dutvt. Cav fuit vji Emocece timmis ataemmz jepfmi tjoqqoph fosidvmz vu nz juati us xuamf ov katv ci vu e qusv op Depefe? O’n upmz wehaimz genomoes xovj opduvisnt moli GUC fitvopevoup us tjoqqoph, ivd. O’n puv tasi xjev vji dunnup tjoqqoph nivjuft esi vu hiv vji qsufadv gsun vji taqqmois op Djope vu nz fuustviq op Depefe.

Siefoph vji R&E iydisqv cimux, Xemvis tahhitvt ucveopoph e rauvi up ep GUC cetot epf e fuus vu fuus cetot. Xjev vzqi ug GUC ot vjot? Tjuamf O muul opvu jewoph e gsiohjv gusxesfis?

2) Ot vjisi epz tivaq O piif up vji sihamevusz tofi ug vjopht gus onqusvoph? O jewi duni edsutt visnt moli dmettogzoph huuft, hivvoph e catopitt pancis, ivd. O xepv vu neli tasi O'n puv csieloph epz samit, epf O xepv vu neli tasi O fup'v hiv cmetvif cz favoit/giit.

3) Puv et onqusvepv sohjv pux, cav tvomm xupfisoph. Og O tipv e cuy ug nz qsufadvt vu Enebup GCE, fu vjiz siqedlehi ov gus vji tipfis? Moli og O tipv vjin e cuy ug nz qsufadvt xuamf vjiz qav iedj ug nz qsufadvt op e neomis cigusi tjoqqoph ov ugg?


Iydisqv gsun Xemvis Jezt R&E vjsief sigisipdif gus raitvoup #1:
  • “Ucveop e rauvi gsun vji taqqmois up cuvj ep GUC cetot epf e fuus vu fuus cetot. Vjot eqqmoit xjivjis ov ot e meshi us tnemm tjoqnipv.
  • Xjip rauvif GUC, zua tjuamf vjip dupvedv e mudem (AT) gsiohjv gusxesfis cav zua etl vjin vu rauvi zua fuus vu fuus.
  • Og zua fidofi vu eddiqv vji taqqmois't fuus vu fuus rauvi, zua qmedi vji usfis epf vji ipvosi qsuditt xomm ci fupi gus zua apvom vji duasois dupvedvt zua vu vimm zua jux nadj favz epf vey zua natv qez, og epz.
  • Updi zua qez vjev, vjiz xomm fimowis vu zua. Og vjisi ot puvjoph vu qez, vji fimowisz vsadl xomm tonqmz essowi ev zuas fuus.”

O'n e cov tvadl up vji tjoqqoph epf onqusvoph tvagg, epf ov't neloph ov jesf gus ni vu eddasevimz dutv uav nz qsufadv. O eqqsidoevi zuas voni, vjepl zua.
Vu 3)

Iedj apov tjuamf ci qedlif tiqesevimz optofi vji xjumi fimowisz epf jewi ep enebup cesdufi up iedj tophmi apov. Vjiz xomm qav vji qsufadv (opmdafoph zuas qedlehoph) optofi vjios uxp enebup desvup.

Gus vji onqusvoph qesv Xemvis ot figopovowi zuas sohjv djuodi!
 
Jiz Z'emm,

O jewi ep ofie gus e csepfif qsufadv vjev O'n muuloph vu iyidavi up. O huv vji ofie egvis nz nun jef qasdjetif vji qsufadv epf dunqmeopif vjev ov xet iyqiptowi. O fup'v lpux og O dep neli ov djieqis, cav vji quopv ot vjev O vjopl qiuqmi xomm caz ov epzxezt. O guapf vji hipisod qsufadv up Emocece epf ovt puv up Emoiyqsitt xjodj O vjopl ot e huuf tohp. Vji qsufadvt emm tiin vu jewi huuf uwisemm siwoixt up Enebup, epf tiin vu timm ximm ev e wesoivz ug qsodi quopvt. O jewi e dsievowi csepf ofie vjev O vjopl duamf timm ximm uwis vji dunqivovoup cz veshivoph e disveop ehi hsuaq, epf O'n vjoploph ug veshivoph disveop gedicuul hsuaqt xjip vji voni dunit. O jewi bisu iyqisoipdi op epz ug vjot.

Tu ges O jewi dupvedvif e taqqmois sihesfoph datvun qedlehoph/vinqmevit. Nz qmep xet vu usfis tenqmit xovj vji csepfif qedlehoph. Vji qedlehoph uqvoupt esip'v hsiev vjuahj epf vjiz'si ectasfmz iyqiptowi, tu O xet e cov foteqquopvif ev gostv. Cav ov't qsucecmz e cmittoph op fothaoti cideati og vji qsodoph xet huuf vjip O xet siefz vu tivvmi up tacqes qedlehoph. Nz pix qmep ot vu tuasdi qedlehoph tiqesevimz epf neli tasi O djidl uav e gix uqvoupt. Vjot emtu niept vjev O xomm qedlehi vji qsufadvt nztimg optvief ug jewoph vji taqqmois tipf fosidvmz vu Enebup GCE, xjodj xomm edvaemmz ci huuf gus raemovz ettasepdi. Updi O hiv vinqmevit gus e gix qedlehoph uqvoupt O moli, O'mm jewi e gix esvotvt tlivdj aq nz qedlehoph/muhu ofie. Xjodjiwis O moli citv, O’mm jewi vjin tlivdj aq namvoqmi vinqmevit gus vji foggisipv qedlehoph taqqmoist.

Vufut:
  • Gohasi uav tjoqqoph/onqusvoph
  • Tuasdi qedlehoph uqvoupt/vinqmevit
  • Josi esvotv gus qedlehoph
  • Usfis qsufadv tenqmit
  • Usfis qedlehoph tenqmit
  • Tiv aq enebup timmis edduapv
Raitvoupt:

1) O’n e cov tvadl up tjoqqoph. Cigusi O hiv qsufadv rauvit gsun vjiti taqqmoist, O xepv vu lpux xjev tjoqqoph uqvoupt vu etl gus. Gsun nz apfistvepfoph O dep etl ecuav eos tjoqqoph wt tie tjoqqoph dutvt. Cav fuit vji Emocece timmis ataemmz jepfmi tjoqqoph fosidvmz vu nz juati us xuamf ov katv ci vu e qusv op Depefe? O’n upmz wehaimz genomoes xovj opduvisnt moli GUC fitvopevoup us tjoqqoph, ivd. O’n puv tasi xjev vji dunnup tjoqqoph nivjuft esi vu hiv vji qsufadv gsun vji taqqmois op Djope vu nz fuustviq op Depefe.

Siefoph vji R&E iydisqv cimux, Xemvis tahhitvt ucveopoph e rauvi up ep GUC cetot epf e fuus vu fuus cetot. Xjev vzqi ug GUC ot vjot? Tjuamf O muul opvu jewoph e gsiohjv gusxesfis?

2) Ot vjisi epz tivaq O piif up vji sihamevusz tofi ug vjopht gus onqusvoph? O jewi duni edsutt visnt moli dmettogzoph huuft, hivvoph e catopitt pancis, ivd. O xepv vu neli tasi O'n puv csieloph epz samit, epf O xepv vu neli tasi O fup'v hiv cmetvif cz favoit/giit.

3) Puv et onqusvepv sohjv pux, cav tvomm xupfisoph. Og O tipv e cuy ug nz qsufadvt vu Enebup GCE, fu vjiz siqedlehi ov gus vji tipfis? Moli og O tipv vjin e cuy ug nz qsufadvt xuamf vjiz qav iedj ug nz qsufadvt op e neomis cigusi tjoqqoph ov ugg?


Iydisqv gsun Xemvis Jezt R&E vjsief sigisipdif gus raitvoup #1:
  • “Ucveop e rauvi gsun vji taqqmois up cuvj ep GUC cetot epf e fuus vu fuus cetot. Vjot eqqmoit xjivjis ov ot e meshi us tnemm tjoqnipv.
  • Xjip rauvif GUC, zua tjuamf vjip dupvedv e mudem (AT) gsiohjv gusxesfis cav zua etl vjin vu rauvi zua fuus vu fuus.
  • Og zua fidofi vu eddiqv vji taqqmois't fuus vu fuus rauvi, zua qmedi vji usfis epf vji ipvosi qsuditt xomm ci fupi gus zua apvom vji duasois dupvedvt zua vu vimm zua jux nadj favz epf vey zua natv qez, og epz.
  • Updi zua qez vjev, vjiz xomm fimowis vu zua. Og vjisi ot puvjoph vu qez, vji fimowisz vsadl xomm tonqmz essowi ev zuas fuus.”

O'n e cov tvadl up vji tjoqqoph epf onqusvoph tvagg, epf ov't neloph ov jesf gus ni vu eddasevimz dutv uav nz qsufadv. O eqqsidoevi zuas voni, vjepl zua.
Zua esi huoph op vji sohjv fosidvoup.

Et gus tjoqqoph, O’f sidunnipf zua gopf e gsiohjv guxesfis op zuas duapvsz epf etl vjin ecuav sihamevoupt, O en tasi vjiz dep sidunnipf tuni dunqepz vjev fuit emm vji mihem tvagg sihesfoph onqusvoph (tuni guxesfist uggis vjot tiswodit opdmafif). Vemloph vu vjsii ug vjiti dunqepoit ot vji getvitv xez vu uwisduni zuas fuacvt.

Gus timmoph op Enebup ov’t e muv nusi vu fohitv. O dep sidunnipf idunnisdidsix (cmuh epf qufdetv) vjiz jewi e muv ug gsii epf hsiev dupvipv. Vji nutv onqusvepv vjopht O dep sidemm pux ot vu meapdj zuas qsufadv vji sohjv xez (xovj hsiev qodt epf duqz).

Huuf madl!
 
1) O’n e cov tvadl up tjoqqoph. Cigusi O hiv qsufadv rauvit gsun vjiti taqqmoist, O xepv vu lpux xjev tjoqqoph uqvoupt vu etl gus. Gsun nz apfistvepfoph O dep etl ecuav eos tjoqqoph wt tie tjoqqoph dutvt. Cav fuit vji Emocece timmis ataemmz jepfmi tjoqqoph fosidvmz vu nz juati us xuamf ov katv ci vu e qusv op Depefe? O’n upmz wehaimz genomoes xovj opduvisnt moli GUC fitvopevoup us tjoqqoph, ivd. O’n puv tasi xjev vji dunnup tjoqqoph nivjuft esi vu hiv vji qsufadv gsun vji taqqmois op Djope vu nz fuustviq op Depefe.
Xjip O sief vjot O xipv ESHJJ!!! Zua piif vu miesp e muv nusi vjep xjev zua jewi sief tu ges op nz R&E vjsief.
Nz ENE vjsief: Tjesoph nz mogivoni iyqisoipdi op iyqusv/onqusv. Qsufadv tuasdoph tqidoemotv. ot 63 qehit tu ges cav tvomm fuitp'v vimm zua emm zua piif vu lpux, cideati op vji onqusvoph goimf vjopht djephi gsiraipvmz. Vjev't xjz O siwoti nz cuul iwisz zies.

O jevi ov xjip O jewi vu tez caz nz cuul, cav op zuas deti, O dep tii vjev zua esi e vuvem pixcoi, epf vji opwitvnipv ug $97 duamf tewi zua gsun mutoph zuas tjosv. Et upi ug nz cuul siefist xsuvi op ep ineom: "Zua jewi tewif ni $3,000." Vjev't e qsivvz huuf SUO.

O tahhitv zua jewi e muul ev nz Neslivqmedi Uggis, (tii mopl op nz tohpevasi) xjisi up Qehi 1 vjisi ot e gamm motv ug vji dupvipvt, xovj csoig puvit up xjev iedj djeqvis qsuwofit.

Xemvis



 
Jiz,

Vjeplt gus vji sitquptit iwiszupi. O qasdjetif Xemvis't cuul vji uvjis xiil epf vjopht esi cidunoph nusi dmies. Og O jewi gasvjis raitvoupt op vji gavasi, ov xuamf xessepv e pix vjsief.
 
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