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    I understand that there was a meeting out here in Phx recently and some of you met RK.

    How'd that meeting go? What were your impressions of the man?

    Im surprised I haven't run into him ... I frequent the snooty restaurants in his neighborhood.
     
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    From what I know, I don't like him but I do like his thinking. Not impressed with him as a person though.
     
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    I have met him a few times. This guy is on the fast track wihen it comes to insulting people. :nono: I do not have thick skin and have been insulted by some of his statements. But, he is who he is and I can accept that. He has had great vision when it comes to the idea of financial freedom. I have enjoyed his books and games. My children have been encouraged to read his books and grasp his philosophies.

    It seems pretty clear that he does not value my style of investment. But who cares as long as it is working for me.

    He did let us use his office building for 2 years and threw a couple of small parties for us.
     
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    c'mon y'all. Half the people on this forum have met him (obviously the bashful half).
     
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    Only wish I had so I could smile and say "Money doesn't buy you integrity or tact, eh?" :moon3:



    He probably has 1,000 times my net worth, but I think there are more important things......don't take my word for it though ;)
     
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    Tact is probably the better description. I wouldn't accuse him of lacking integrity.

    Kiyosaki has done a lot for people. He forces his employees to become financially literate and expects his friends to do the same.

    Some of his less than tactful ways are probably a direct result of many people that challenge him.
     
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    "stop jerk**g off on the internet"

    It was a nice gesture to let us use his office and to have a small reception for us the first night, but man was he rude the day after!!!

    I still remember when he mentioned we were all wasting our times on the internet.... and that it was time to stop jerk**g around in the website and get a real life.. or something like that. Even better, when he took it on one of the members to accuse him of many many things without even know him... or when he mentioned that those that try to make it by using appreciation and not cashflow as strategy were something (I don't even remember the word he used for them)

    I was more impressed with the nice personality his wife has. He wasn't a nice guy that day, but I admire the book and ideas that changed my mindset.
     
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    I totally agree, andviv. His book opened the minds of many people as to how life could be. He has done a great thing for everyone who has read RDPD, and it in turn made him lots of money.
     
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    I was a big fan of RK which originally brought me to his website years ago. His first two books are great; fastlane material.

    However what ultimately turned me off to RK (and his personality without actually meeting him) was an article in Forbes Small Business during the housing boom when they interviewed him. In the article, RK said he "prayed" everyday that the housing boom would bust so he can start making money again in Real Estate. He alluded that with all the ameteurs in the game, he is out ... and prays for a housing bust. I wish I could find that article.

    It put me off for 2 reasons ...

    1) RK prays for a real estate bust so he can make money? How about praying for our soldiers in Iraq, or for world peace, or for the homeless -- instead, he prays for a housing bust which will hurt most Americans.

    IMHO, praying for other's people's pain so you can profit is sacrileges and borders on evil.

    2) His books say real estate, real estate, real estate. He tells his book readers to invest in real estate, yet in the article he confesses "he's out" of the market. So his books got all the amateurs in the game, which forced him out. Sounds hypocritical to me.

    After this article, I immediately lost respect for the man as a man, not that man as an author. I seemed that RK's number #1 god was money.

    We're all here to make a little more money but if your world is ruled by it and your integrity and empathy for your fellow man is forsaken, you've lost regardless how much $$ you make.

    Again, above is an opinion on what RK has said and quoted in interviews. A judgment. Those who know him personally might just say its all an act, and the guy is a saint.
     
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    I am one of those that believes that money does not change you that much... it just augments who you really are. If you are an a$$ without money, you will be a bigger a$$hole with it. People that like helping others will likely donate more money when they have it.
     
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    I've met him and the last impression I had of him was not very good. I do thank him for his books and the path they have made me take. They have helped me alot financially.

    However, I'm of the school that it doesn't matter who are or how much money you have, you still have to respect other people. It's ironic that the meeting of all his loyal RD forum members is probably what's gonna kill his forum. From my perspective, if you have people travel across the country to meet you, you don't go insulting them and calling them losers. I don't know if that was ignorance or arrogance.

    It's like that mean boss you have at work yelling at everyone because he can. He doesn't realize that if he runs into an ex-employee outside of work that he's just another guy on the street that can get his a$$ kicked. Having power doesn't mean you get to be a dick.
     
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    I have not met RK, so my opinion is based only on what I have seen of him in articles and on RDTV.

    While I admire his philosophy and credit is work for my "start" I have no admiration for him as a man. 2 reasons:

    1) He insults people right and left. What is the point? He is very bitter or maybe angry (?) and as a result alienates his customers or potential customers.

    2) I remember on one of his RDTV segments, someone was talking about the steps of success - or something similar. His highest step or level was essentially giving back to the world/humanity. He was stating that great personal satisfaction can come from giving back.

    This step went right over RK's head. He did not seem to grasp the idea and made a comment that was not related to the point at all. His comment had to do with getting satisfaction from making money - not from giving back or understanding a higher purpose.

    It has been a long time since I watched it, and I don't remember specifics, but I do remember that I was left with the impression that without money, RK's life is empty. All he seems to understand or care about is $$$$. That is sad to me, and I hope that he can eventually experience enough growth to understand that $ is not all there is.
     
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    Never met the guy.
    Couldn't make it to the last RD meeting (schedule conflicts)
    and the time before, missed the meet and greet.

    He knows next to nothing about paper investing
    and what he does really know,
    business building,
    he doesn't talk about much.
    That disappoints me.

    I have a rhino skin
    (have to be when you're a female in corporate).
    My policy is that if you've got something to teach me
    to help me get where I want to go,
    I can put up with verbal abuse
    (though you might get emails from mystery addies about anger mgmt courses).

    : )
     
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    It's hard to find people who are on top of the world financially that can still find it in their hearts to have respect for the common people. It's not uncommon, but it pisses me off when people treat others like crap. I guess that's just the way it is, but I'm sure people like that will get what's coming to them.
     
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    Groupie Syndrome

    A few months ago there was a national conference for a group of professionals. I have been a member of this group for about a year. In this organization, there is a very knowledgeable woman.

    In her own state, she has a business in which she trains others with her methods. In the national group, she has been instrumental in education of members and the growth of the organization.

    She knows NOTHING about me, my values or my life.

    She "attacked" me verbally at this last meeting. It was interesting to hear the assumptions she made about my life. She was completely inaccurate in her assumptions.

    When I was speaking to my husband about this later, we both agreed that she has basically created her own little universe in which she is QUEEN and surrounded by her worshiping groupies. After years of this existance, I can see where one would forget the world and people that exist outside of this universe.... and make incorrect assumptions about people.

    Perhaps this is similar to RK.
     
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    Kinda sad to hear all the commentary about RD ... especially when it comes to the internet.

    I'd bet if I approached RD Corp. and offered to buy their forum, they'd jump at it especially since its been neglected for all these years.
     
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    Interesting thought there, MJ. :)
     
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    I'd pitch in some cash...not that I have much to offer.
     
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    I've met him a couple of times

    I've had the opportunity to meet RK at both the 2006 and the 2007 meet-ups in Phoenix. I was hoping you'd be there MJ, but you quit posting here right around the 2006 gathering. (I wanted a ride in that Lambo, damn it!)
    :notworthy:

    My gut feeling of RK is that he still thinks he's in the Marines. He likes to cuss and holler and be respected. He was friendly, but in a stand-offish sort of way. I definately didn't get a warm and fuzzy feeling from him.

    I used to work for a guy like him. He would be screaming at his managers on the phone and smiling at me at the same time. I think RK's actions are planned. He likes to shock his audience into listening to him.

    That said, he did basically give us the run of his place two years ago. Sort of said, "Here are the keys. Lock it up when you're done." And he invited us back whenever we want to come (Erin???).

    Overall, in 2005 I would have rated him a "10". After the 2006 meeting, an "8". And after the 2007 meeting, a "6". He lost a lot of respect this past March.
     
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    Money doesn't buy class. The Russ Whitney relationship sums up where his head is.
     
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    Wow.

    I wasn't going to say anything about this because I thought this forum was going to be about positive energy and learning and growing, not turn into the "used to be fans of RK" board.

    I have gotten to know Robert and Kim over the last year, and I have a completely different view of them then most of you. I have absolute respect for both of them. I have been able to watch them in their businesses, dealing with employees, partners, investors, struggles, and been allowed into their personal lives as well.

    They are two of the most warm and loving people I have met.

    Who are any of you to accuse RK of "having no tact" when you know that when you get frustrated with things or people on the boards and in life, you react the same way- and I have seen it from some of you. Imagine if you had that happening every day, and imagine how you would react after a while.

    I am not sure I want to be apart of these boards, and there's no way in hell I'm organizing another get together, after seeing so much disrespect for the man who showed most of us how to get onto the fast track.

    Who needs more negativity? Not me.
     
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    Thats why its off-topic and in the appropriate place. As I wrote prior, I've never met the man so my judgment is suspect vis-a-vie someone who met him like yourself.
     
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    Obviously, I am one of the people that accused him of having no tact. I also said that it was probably a result of many people challenging him. My opinion on what he teaches and how I use it in my, and my childrens lives has not changed.

    It was clear on what was said at the last meeting though. Robert had no problems stating how many people were losers. He clearly stated that those that buy for anything other than cashflow are losers. There was no ambiguity in his statement. He slammed Russ when he asked a question without even giving him any sort of benefit of doubt. That is a perception that Robert put in our heads.

    You know RK better than any of us and your opinion matters.

    I am not down on RK. There was some enjoyment that I had over the events at the meeting (including the controversy). I have stated and will say again that I appreciated them opening up the office for our use and spending time with us.
     
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    Agreed. I said something to this effect as well.
     
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    Erin,

    I understand that you have a very special relationship w/Robert and Kim.

    I think that's great.

    We're the same people you knew and loved before the event.

    And we would never want to put you in the middle, having to choose between any of us and RK.

    -Russ H.
     

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