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Tommy92l

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Would anyone mind explaining the mindset behind this?

It's like when a bunch of people like a band that no one else knows about, they all say "Awh man, they're totally underrated and don't get the publicity they deserve!".

The day finally comes where they get their big break and all of a sudden everyone knows about them.

Now the people who were originally saying they are underrated are now saying "They've sold out!".

The same thing is sort of happening to me, and I don't get why you wouldn't want to see someone you support grow.
 
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In your situation? Jealousy. Envy.

When it comes to bands, I don't get it at all. Good music is good music to my ears, regardless of if it's "mainstream". I think people just like to feel like part of the special club when the band is small.
 

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Well, the term is mostly used when that someone (like a band) changes their ways or style radically - in order to please a different crowd or demographic for the sake of favoring money over fan or follower loyalty.

A prime (and to me, sad) example from the music industry is Metallica.

They originally were an incredible band that really stood out with their technical musical abilities, speed metal songwriting, and their own very distinct sound. They first released 4 albums that their fans deeply loved and treasured. Because every album delivered on that same promise. It is what was expected. And the fans absolutely loved it. Yet - the band was still not at all mainstream, and their hardcore fans preferred it that way. Some may have said things like "these guys are underrated and deserve more attention", but they really should have been careful what they wished for...

Then, Metallica all the sudden did a 180, decided to switch musical gears completely, and turned toward the radio-friendly mainstream, and onto MTV. Gone were the speeding riffs, gone was the raw drive and sound from the first four albums (don't get me wrong, the Black album technically sounds better from a production point of view than the first 4 but that is besides the point). Gone was the long hair and the heavy metal style lyrics and antics.

They in essence, had "sold out". They had pretty much abandoned the majority of their loyal fanbase in favor of more profits and commercial success. Now, from a business perspective - they did ALL the right things. They went totally fastlane. Good for them. So for that, I have to give them tons of credit. But of course - the original fans are left with a different impression, feeling abandoned, and that their idols 'sold out'.

Now - I don't know about your personal situation - but what do you think you have done or changed that make people say this? You're not a band I assume, so I take it this has to do with maybe giving up your career in favor of pursuing the fastlane? If so, don't listen to the naysayers.. ;)
 
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@Eskil, you made me start up spotify to listen to some old metallica!
 
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"Selling out" would be me catering to the MLM crowd in my next book and saying "If I was to do it all over again, I'd join an MLM"
 

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@Eskil is spot on

I would say if you haven't changed much from who you are in your core being then its jealousy speaking... and if you have changed so what... your allowed to evolve and grow. :p do what makes you happy and screw everyone else.
 

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@Eskil, you made me start up spotify to listen to some old metallica!

Lol.. good. Those albums are killer. Also, if you like them - you're gonna love songs like "Soldiers of the Wasteland" and "Fury of the Storm" by melodic speed metal gurus DragonForce! :rockon:
 
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ot but metallica was one of the best concerts ever back in the day :p (93ish)
 

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In your situation? Jealousy. Envy.
Yep.
Stress kills so don't give it another thought.
Do what you do. Make your MONEY and Ef 'em !!


Lol.. good. Those albums are killer. Also, if you like them - you're gonna love songs like "Soldiers of the Wasteland" and "Fury of the Storm" by melodic speed metal gurus DragonForce!
Dude....I'll be at the 2015 B & P and I think Scottsdale...Hell...all of AZ will know we were there because their ears will be ringing for weeks after us BLASTING some great ROCK AND ROLL !! Back atcha :rockon:
 

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@Eskil has hit the nail on the head.o
Selling out means to compromise your artistic integrity for money.

It may be pandering to the lowest common denominator, it may mean adopting a gimmick to sell more tickets,
it may mean Bruce Willis as a boxer "taking the fall" in Pulp fiction.
 
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