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[Antifragile]

"Did you ever consider how ridiculous it would be to try to cram on a farm—to forget to plant in the spring, play all summer and then cram in the fall to bring in the harvest? The farm is a natural system. The price must be paid and the process followed. You always reap what you sow; there is no shortcut." (Stephen R. Covey, The 7 Habits of Highly Effective People)

 

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[Kak]

"Did you ever consider how ridiculous it would be to try to cram on a farm—to forget to plant in the spring, play all summer and then cram in the fall to bring in the harvest? The farm is a natural system. The price must be paid and the process followed. You always reap what you sow; there is no shortcut." (Stephen R. Covey, The 7 Habits of Highly Effective People)

I used a farm example recently. Farms make good examples.

 

[Guest-5ty5s4]

I used a farm example recently. Farms make good examples.

Farms are the most basic essential businesses and the first key in humanity's foodchain, literally!

 

[MJ DeMarco]

ACT test scores drop to lowest in 30 years in pandemic slide

ACT test scores made public in a report Wednesday reveal a decline in preparedness for college-level coursework.

apnews.com

Love how they claim it's because of the Pandemic, as if it is a scientific fact, and then provide no evidence at all other than correlation. Folks, this is the largest news organization on the planet and they are utter failures at journalism. But yea, let's trust them to deliver fact-based news.

No, kids aren't failing in school because of the pandemic... it's because of short-attention spans and the ability to not focus, thanks to dopaphones and your friendly neighborhood social media company. Did anyone think having a smartphone glued to a teenager's face 15 hours a day wouldn't have ramifications?

But yea, pandemic...

 

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[Guest-5ty5s4]

ACT test scores drop to lowest in 30 years in pandemic slide

ACT test scores made public in a report Wednesday reveal a decline in preparedness for college-level coursework.

apnews.com

Love how they claim it's because of the Pandemic, as if it is a scientific fact, and then provide no evidence at all other than correlation. Folks, this is the largest news organization on the planet and they are utter failures at journalism. But yea, let's trust them to deliver fact-based news.

No, kids aren't failing in school because of the pandemic... it's because of short-attention spans and the ability to not focus, thanks to dopaminephones and your friendly neighborhood social media company. Did anyone think having a smartphone glued to a teenager's face 15 hours a day wouldn't have ramifications?

But yea, pandemic...

Agreed, but also, even if there is anything related to the pandemic with this, it's not the pandemic itself... It would be the government response to the pandemic.

I.e. - shutting down schools, locking down, keeping kids home, putting them in masks, distracting them from learning actual math, reading, writing, etc. for almost 2 years

In addition to the obvious cultural decline you laid out

 

[jdm667]

ACT test scores drop to lowest in 30 years in pandemic slide

ACT test scores made public in a report Wednesday reveal a decline in preparedness for college-level coursework.

apnews.com

Love how they claim it's because of the Pandemic, as if it is a scientific fact, and then provide no evidence at all other than correlation. Folks, this is the largest news organization on the planet and they are utter failures at journalism. But yea, let's trust them to deliver fact-based news.

No, kids aren't failing in school because of the pandemic... it's because of short-attention spans and the ability to not focus, thanks to dopaminephones and your friendly neighborhood social media company. Did anyone think having a smartphone glued to a teenager's face 15 hours a day wouldn't have ramifications?

But yea, pandemic...

I am not the least bit surprised by the lower test scores (and the bad journalism).

I tutored ACT and SAT prep for high schoolers for a few years.

Many colleges have gone "test optional" (especially during/after the pandemic), meaning students don't even have to submit test scores to some colleges!

If the test isn't required (or the scores don't matter as much anymore), why study hard to prepare for them?

Instead, you can use the extra time to focus on essays (and other parts of the application that still matter).

 

[MoneyDoc]

ACT test scores drop to lowest in 30 years in pandemic slide

ACT test scores made public in a report Wednesday reveal a decline in preparedness for college-level coursework.

apnews.com

Love how they claim it's because of the Pandemic, as if it is a scientific fact, and then provide no evidence at all other than correlation. Folks, this is the largest news organization on the planet and they are utter failures at journalism. But yea, let's trust them to deliver fact-based news.

No, kids aren't failing in school because of the pandemic... it's because of short-attention spans and the ability to not focus, thanks to dopaminephones and your friendly neighborhood social media company. Did anyone think having a smartphone glued to a teenager's face 15 hours a day wouldn't have ramifications?

But yea, pandemic...

I wonder what their Tik Tok dance scores would be?

I totally agree. I see it with my Cousin's kids. They know how to hold a phone, yet have trouble holding a book or could care less about holding one. I just don't understand how you give a kid a phone for the majority of the day just so you don't need to take care of them or that they stay "quiet". Why on earth are your kids as young as 8 years old on Tik Tok dancing? Like what do we expect from them for the future? I think it's all downhill from here to be honest. Social Media and Hollywood is literal poison which is why I avoid both entirely and I'm 28 years old. "Well you're not cool enough!" Damn right I'm not cool enough. The guy making $25m/year is cool to me not you with your mini social media following of envious "friends".

 

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[Antifragile]

Agreed, but also, even if there is anything related to the pandemic with this, it's not the pandemic itself... It would be the government response to the pandemic.

I.e. - shutting down schools, locking down, keeping kids home, putting them in masks, distracting them from learning actual math, reading, writing, etc. for almost 2 years

In addition to the obvious cultural decline you laid out

I'll add that for young adults, social exposure (real world interactions, not social media crap) is important for growth. While we may agree or disagree about lockdowns, one thing is known: being removed from social circle made it harder mentally on our youth. This impacted their productivity (studying) and scores. There is probably a mental health dimension to this too that I (as a fully formed adult) cannot appreciate.

 

[MoneyDoc]

Does anyone else take 10 minutes to write a post or a reply to a thread and then just rage and delete the wall of text?

I think I have a problem.

 

[Antifragile]

Does anyone else take 10 minutes to write a post or a reply to a thread and then just rage and delete the wall of text?

I think I have a problem.

Nope.

 

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[AceVentures]

No, kids aren't failing in school because of the pandemic... it's because of short-attention spans and the ability to not focus, thanks to dopaminephones and your friendly neighborhood social media company. Did anyone think having a smartphone glued to a teenager's face 15 hours a day wouldn't have ramifications?

But yea, pandemic...

I think that "mental health crisis" is the next big thing of this decade - and I think a lot of well-intentioned effort is being wasted by people missing several key considerations. I started studying this in August and connected several interesting dots together.

Take a look at this note the Surgeon General wrote at the end of last year. https://www.hhs.gov/about/news/2021...sis-further-exposed-by-C0VlD-19-pandemic.html

One excerpt: "Additionally, from 2009 to 2019, the share of high school students who reported persistent feelings of sadness or hopelessness increased by 40%, to more than 1 in 3 students. Suicidal behaviors among high school students also increased during the decade preceding COVID, with 19% seriously considering attempting suicide, a 36% increase from 2009 to 2019, and about 16% having made a suicide plan in the prior year, a 44% increase from 2009 to 2019."

And this is not even considering the effects of the lockdowns.

Why the problem grows in my opinion is largely because a lot of people are missing the mark about mental health by focusing on the biochemical properties of the brain and the nervous system, and largely ignoring that mental health is a symptom of illness, just as physical injury is a symptom of illness. If you recognize that mental and physical health are two sides of the same coin, then this arbitrary subdivison and the obsession with the brain becomes apparent as a focus that diverts from the solution.

Go look at the NIH's website for any of the "mental health" disorders and you'll see this up-front as the approach to treatment:



What's less discussed is that all forms of mental health have been studied to be directly linked to retardation of psychomotor functions. Moreover, the physical "shape" of psychomotor disturbance is the general pattern of anxiety in the body, ie flexion leaning to the front, head down, shoulders tight.

I think the missing link between the rise in "mental health crisis" is directly related to the use of the smart-phones, the use of which places our physical bodies in the direct shape of the general pattern of anxiety. Our autonomous nervous system inherits very few inborne traits, and the fear of falling and subsequent flexion pattern is one of them. The significance being that as we're in this physical shape, we also psychological reflect the emotions associated with that shape - fear and angst.

I think a lot of the mental health problems could be practically addressed if people considered the problem from this standpoint and put the phones away. Not only from the content and how that influences us, or how we habitually use it, but also from the standpoint that the shape we take as we use it brings about psychomotor retardation and subsequently symptoms of illness in the psyche.

Tagging Dr. @Lex DeVille to offer feedback on this hypothesis.

 

[loop101]

Interesting. Negative candle reviews on Amazon can predict Covid outbreaks.

‘Zero scent’: could negative reviews of smelly candles hint at a Covid surge?

There is indeed a correlation between Covid cases and the number of reviews complaining that Yankee Candles don’t have a smell, research shows

www.theguardian.com

 

[MJ DeMarco]

Curious, is there a pejorative word to describe someone like this?

No matter what you say, this person always has a snappy comeback, an opposing view to whatever you say.

And it doesn't matter WHAT YOU SAY.

You could say, "The sky is blue." and this a**hole would comeback and say, "well technically, it is black and the oxygen makes it appear blue."

I recently had to delete a dickhead like this from the Unscripted Text Network. . . I think in total I have probably made 60 posts in the network, and 60 times, he's had to bounce back with his contrarian viewpoint. Needless to say, I removed this dickhead from the group who became like an insufferable ankle-biting chihuahua, nipping at any comment I made.

Edgelord comes to mind to describe someone like this, but it doesn't seem to fit.

 

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[MTF]

Curious, is there a pejorative word to describe someone like this?

No matter what you say, this person always has a snappy comeback, an opposing view to whatever you say.

And it doesn't matter WHAT YOU SAY.

You could say, "The sky is blue." and this a**hole would comeback and say, "well technically, it is black and the oxygen makes it appear blue."

I recently had to delete a dickhead like this from the Unscripted Text Network. . . I think in total I have probably made 60 posts in the network, and 60 times, he's had to bounce back with his contrarian viewpoint. Needless to say, I removed this dickhead from the group who became like an insufferable ankle-biting chihuahua, nipping at any comment I made.

Edgelord comes to mind to describe someone like this, but it doesn't seem to fit.

Smart-a$$?

 

[Lex DeVille]

This looks massive. Would you move it someplace, or do you actually own the land where it currently is too?

Just wondering what happens if you rent these out and someone goes sleepwalking.

I guess you have to move it somewhere. Some of them are over 100 feet tall. They come dismantled and the site says the guy can help you move it and reassemble it for an extra cost.

As for the sleepwalking, that's what liability waivers are for!

 

[Lex DeVille]

I think that "mental health crisis" is the next big thing of this decade - and I think a lot of well-intentioned effort is being wasted by people missing several key considerations. I started studying this in August and connected several interesting dots together.

Take a look at this note the Surgeon General wrote at the end of last year. https://www.hhs.gov/about/news/2021...sis-further-exposed-by-C0VlD-19-pandemic.html

One excerpt: "Additionally, from 2009 to 2019, the share of high school students who reported persistent feelings of sadness or hopelessness increased by 40%, to more than 1 in 3 students. Suicidal behaviors among high school students also increased during the decade preceding COVID, with 19% seriously considering attempting suicide, a 36% increase from 2009 to 2019, and about 16% having made a suicide plan in the prior year, a 44% increase from 2009 to 2019."

And this is not even considering the effects of the lockdowns.

Why the problem grows in my opinion is largely because a lot of people are missing the mark about mental health by focusing on the biochemical properties of the brain and the nervous system, and largely ignoring that mental health is a symptom of illness, just as physical injury is a symptom of illness. If you recognize that mental and physical health are two sides of the same coin, then this arbitrary subdivison and the obsession with the brain becomes apparent as a focus that diverts from the solution.

Go look at the NIH's website for any of the "mental health" disorders and you'll see this up-front as the approach to treatment:

View attachment 45495

What's less discussed is that all forms of mental health have been studied to be directly linked to retardation of psychomotor functions. Moreover, the physical "shape" of psychomotor disturbance is the general pattern of anxiety in the body, ie flexion leaning to the front, head down, shoulders tight.

I think the missing link between the rise in "mental health crisis" is directly related to the use of the smart-phones, the use of which places our physical bodies in the direct shape of the general pattern of anxiety. Our autonomous nervous system inherits very few inborne traits, and the fear of falling and subsequent flexion pattern is one of them. The significance being that as we're in this physical shape, we also psychological reflect the emotions associated with that shape - fear and angst.

I think a lot of the mental health problems could be practically addressed if people considered the problem from this standpoint and put the phones away. Not only from the content and how that influences us, or how we habitually use it, but also from the standpoint that the shape we take as we use it brings about psychomotor retardation and subsequently symptoms of illness in the psyche.

Tagging Dr. @Lex DeVille to offer feedback on this hypothesis.

I've been of the opinion that depression is a symptom of other problems for some time. I would agree that a full-blown mental health crisis is on the way if it isn't already here. We may get nuked, so I wouldn't worry too far into the future haha.

It would be interesting to see studies on the relationship between phone shape/posture and anxiety or depression.

Body language experts have talked about the problems of phone posture for a long time. Usually, they describe it as a position of vulnerability that leaves you open to attack. To counter it, they teach a *chin up, shoulders back, chest forward, head on a swivel* approach. The military also teaches this. It creates a strong and confident posture and makes you more of a hard target.

To me, it makes a lot of sense that physical shape would be related to an increase in depression/anxiety.

By the way, I'm not a doctor, but I do play one on TV... No, that's not true either.

 

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[MitchC]

I've been of the opinion that depression is a symptom of other problems for some time. I would agree that a full-blown mental health crisis is on the way if it isn't already here. We may get nuked, so I wouldn't worry too far into the future haha.

It would be interesting to see studies on the relationship between phone shape/posture and anxiety or depression.

Body language experts have talked about the problems of phone posture for a long time. Usually, they describe it as a position of vulnerability that leaves you open to attack. To counter it, they teach a *chin up, shoulders back, chest forward, head on a swivel* approach. The military also teaches this. It creates a strong and confident posture and makes you more of a hard target.

To me, it makes a lot of sense that physical shape would be related to an increase in depression/anxiety.

By the way, I'm not a doctor, but I do play one on TV... No, that's not true either.

That makes a lot of sense.

We had to draw “oppression” in one of my classes at school once, if you were to draw a sad person or oppression they would simply look like they are using a phone.

Power poses are the total opposite and have an instant effect on confidence so I really don’t see why sad poses wouldn’t do exactly the same.

 

[Tommo]

Curious, is there a pejorative word to describe someone like this?

No matter what you say, this person always has a snappy comeback, an opposing view to whatever you say.

And it doesn't matter WHAT YOU SAY.

You could say, "The sky is blue." and this a**hole would comeback and say, "well technically, it is black and the oxygen makes it appear blue."

I recently had to delete a dickhead like this from the Unscripted Text Network. . . I think in total I have probably made 60 posts in the network, and 60 times, he's had to bounce back with his contrarian viewpoint. Needless to say, I removed this dickhead from the group who became like an insufferable ankle-biting chihuahua, nipping at any comment I made.

Edgelord comes to mind to describe someone like this, but it doesn't seem to fit.

How about Wanker or Gobshite. Both very popular terms with the Brits.

 

[Antifragile]

What do you do when stuck in traffic?

@Kak this was a great short from your leadership, especially the Steve Jobs vs Wozniak part about “musicians play the instruments and I play the orchestra”. Epic.

 

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[MoneyDoc]

Florida Couple Turned the Empty Miami Mansions of Venezuela’s Elite Into Personal Piggy Banks

A mortgage-fraud scheme used fake passports to get a Ferrari, luxury watches and millions in cash.

www.wsj.com

@Antifragile

 

[Goodfella999]

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XXrETO1eLeg


This guy at 13:00 mark is saying what @MJ DeMarco , @biophase @fastlane_dad all say to people on the forum. Providing solutions to everyones problems.

 

[Kak]

For my own personal use, I’m downgrading external locus people to severe mental disorder.

 

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[MattR82]

Power poses are the total opposite and have an instant effect on confidence so I really don’t see why sad poses wouldn’t do exactly the same.

My dogs disagree with you. SERIOUS power in the sad pose...

 

[Lex DeVille]

View attachment 45509What do you do when stuck in traffic?

@Kak this was a great short from your leadership, especially the Steve Jobs vs Wozniak part about “musicians play the instruments and I play the orchestra”. Epic.

If I'm stuck in traffic (in my town of 7,000) all hell has probably broken loose.

 

[MoneyDoc]

Equifax said it fired employees for working as many as 3 jobs at once in an internal operation known as 'Project Home Alone'

One employee answered a call from Equifax HR from the hospital, where he was working his second job as a nurse, according to a spokesperson.

www.businessinsider.com

Well done Equifax! I hope more crackdown on these sort of employees.

I visited a friend once. 9-5 corporate job. Well paid. WFH due to pandemic. Guess what he brags about? "I just leave an auto clicker on to show I'm active". Huh? They're putting food on your table and this is how you pay your dues? Then people complain about corporations being evil and how everyone deserves the same pay.

 

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[Antifragile]

Equifax said it fired employees for working as many as 3 jobs at once in an internal operation known as 'Project Home Alone'

One employee answered a call from Equifax HR from the hospital, where he was working his second job as a nurse, according to a spokesperson.

www.businessinsider.com

Well done Equifax! I hope more crackdown on these sort of employees.

I visited a friend once. 9-5 corporate job. Well paid. WFH due to pandemic. Guess what he brags about? "I just leave an auto clicker on to show I'm active". Huh? They're putting food on your table and this is how you pay your dues? Then people complain about corporations being evil and how everyone deserves the same pay.

 

[Guest-5ty5s4]

Equifax said it fired employees for working as many as 3 jobs at once in an internal operation known as 'Project Home Alone'

One employee answered a call from Equifax HR from the hospital, where he was working his second job as a nurse, according to a spokesperson.

www.businessinsider.com

Well done Equifax! I hope more crackdown on these sort of employees.

I visited a friend once. 9-5 corporate job. Well paid. WFH due to pandemic. Guess what he brags about? "I just leave an auto clicker on to show I'm active". Huh? They're putting food on your table and this is how you pay your dues? Then people complain about corporations being evil and how everyone deserves the same pay.

Ooooh the overemployed thread would be so triggered by this but I don't think anyone from there checks this thread

 

[GPM]

Florida Couple Turned the Empty Miami Mansions of Venezuela’s Elite Into Personal Piggy Banks

A mortgage-fraud scheme used fake passports to get a Ferrari, luxury watches and millions in cash.

www.wsj.com

@Antifragile

Wow! That was a wild read. That would legitimately make for a really entertaining movie. Do it in the style of "Wolf of Wall Street".

I really enjoyed this quote: "It didn’t hurt that Ms. Martusciello and Mr. Castañeda also resented the Venezuelan regime, which they considered corrupt".

The article then goes on to detail how the individuals who were defrauded were in fact corrupt. I am not saying that stealing from a thief makes it alright, but the wording is humourous.

Mr. GPM considers it to be wet outside. It is currently raining outside. Tune in later for more news!

 

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[Antifragile]

'Our patients aren't dead': Inside a cryogenic freezing lab with humans on ice

199 humans have opted to be 'cryopreserved' with the hopes of being revived in the future.

metro.co.uk

 

[biophase]

'Our patients aren't dead': Inside a cryogenic freezing lab with humans on ice

199 humans have opted to be 'cryopreserved' with the hopes of being revived in the future.

metro.co.uk

Holy shit, this is the building next to mine. I always wondered what they did LOL.
And I guess the other building is a sperm bank. I never knew.