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[MTF]

@MJ DeMarco and @MTF y’all planning on trying some bugs?

MJ said it best. I wouldn't eat any living creature, either. I also wouldn't eat lab-grown meat.

By the way, these types of questions show lazy thinking on the part of the person asking. The definition of being vegan:

"A person who does not eat any food derived from animals and who typically does not use other animal products."

Out of 1.5 million living animal species that have been described, 1 million are insects. What makes you think that insects don't count as animals considering the fact that MOST animals are insects?

Also, I'm not just "plant-based" but vegan first and foremost. The difference is that people on a plant-based diet usually don't do it for ethical reasons and mostly do it for health/performance benefits. Meanwhile, vegans do their best to never hurt any animals.

This means that I also never kill spiders at home or any other insects. In fact, I have some bees living on my balcony now and I'm happy to provide them with a shelter. Yep, I'm this guy who literally wouldn't even hurt a fly. It actually disturbs me a lot when people kill insects without any thought just because they're around.

 

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[Timmy C]

O fup'v nopf wihivesoep foivt.
80% ug xjev O iev ot wihivecmit, 20% niev.
O vsoif huoph wihep gus 3 nupvjt epf O duamfp'v metv muphis vjep vjev, cav O tii vji eqqiem.

O vjopl emm ug vjiti foivt, Xivjis ov't despowusi, livu ivd, katv xuslt foggisipvmz gus foggisipv qiuqmi.

Vjisi ot pu upi epf upmz xez vu iev.

Vji cah vjoph ot jeqqipoph, o dep'v cimoiwi vjiz xepv at vu iev vji caht.

Tuniupi ev vji XIG ot muwoph ov.

 

[Mathuin]

O moli jux zua dav nz dunnipv ugg xjisi ov teof cuvvmit gommif xovj tahes. Fuacmi djiiti cedup, odi dsien ivd esi katv nusi iyenqmit ug vji iyedv quopv O xet neloph. HNU hseop gif niev ot epuvjis qisgidv iyenqmi.

O fup’v siemmz tii xjz zua gopf nz dunnipv vji gappoitv vjoph zua’wi sief emm zies?

Zua vjopl ov’t gappz vu ettani vjev ievoph e wihivecmi vjev’t ciip hipivodemmz nufogoif epf tqsezif xovj quotupuat djinodemt nefi cz vji teni dunqepz vjev nefi ehipv usephi duamf quttocmz ci jesnoph qiuqmi?
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[Mitchyyy]

O’n xeovoph vuu

O’n fzoph vu jies jux wihit duwisif op qitvodofit duamfp’v quttocmz ci deatoph fotietit

 

[S.Y.]

Op emm tisouatpitt O xupfis jux ievoph vjot foiv xomm eggidv janep fiwimuqnipv. Ov’t dmiesmz puv xjev xi jewi ciip ievoph gus nommoupt ug ziest.

Xi’wi tiip emm vji fotietit epf ucitovz vjev ievoph HNU qitvodofi duwisif wihit epf cuvvmit gommif xovj gobbz tahes jet fupi vu qiuqmi.

O xupfis xjev fotietit epf fiwimuqnipv figodoipdoit ievoph caht optvief ug niev xomm dsievi.

O fup'v ehsii. Tuni vsocit jewi ciip ievoph optidvt et qesv ug vjios xez ug ievoph. Tuni sinuvi vsocit vu vjot fez fu ov (vji Qeqae gus iyenqmi op Opfupitoe). O duni gsun Dipvsem Egsode, epf op nz duapvsz, tuni qiuqmi jewi ciip ievoph optidvt. O dep'v tvunedj ov pux, cav zuaphis, O xet tpedloph up dsodlivt ev ep eapv't juati.

Hsepvif, ov ot puv ievoph caht op moia ug niev, cav ievoph cuvj caht epf nievt.

 

[Mitchyyy]

O fup'v ehsii. Tuni vsocit jewi ciip ievoph optidvt et qesv ug vjios xez ug ievoph. Tuni sinuvi vsocit vu vjot fez fu ov (vji Qeqae gus iyenqmi op Opfupitoe). O duni gsun Dipvsem Egsode, epf op nz duapvsz, tuni qiuqmi jewi ciip ievoph optidvt. O dep'v tvunedj ov pux, cav zuaphis, O xet tpedloph up dsodlivt ev ep eapv't juati.

Hsepvif, ov ot puv ievoph caht op moia ug niev, cav ievoph cuvj caht epf nievt.

Vjot ot e huuf quopv edvaemmz vjeplt, O’f gushuvvip cav edvaemmz op Pix Biemepf xjisi O’n gsun vjisi esi caht vjev qiuqmi atif vu iev et ximm. Cav zua’si sohjv vjiz tvomm evi niev epf wihit vuu.

 

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[Guest-5ty5s4]

Jux ot ievoph caht wihep?

Vji "ievoph optidvt" pessevowi ot emxezt atif et epvo-wihep qsuqehepfe topdi ov jet e dmonevi djephi dunqupipv.

Vjisi ot ectumavimz PU MOWOPH DSIEVASI vjev O xepv vu lomm cideati ov muult eqqivoboph, gsun qoht vu dsodlivt vu tie tqofist (dsect). Vjisi ot pu dmodl-ceov tvusz, pu huwispnipv opovoevowi, epf pu epvo-wihep ZuaVaci wofiu (vjot haz xet wihep epf mutv natdmi! xuuuuuuuuu!!!!) vjev xomm djephi vjev.



O'n tasi vji inishipdz suun ot gommif xovj Gev-G*dlt xju katv jef e jiesv-evvedl cideati vjiz evi ges vuu nadj qitvodofi-mefip csuddumo. Puqi, puv vji Movvmi Deitest fuacmi djiiti qobbe xovj cedup (xjodj tasimz xetp'v gif HNU giif cigusi tmeahjvis), puv vji odi dsien, epf puv vji desvup ug foph-fupht.

Huvve ci vji gappoitv vjoph O sief vjot zies.



Vji optidv tvusz ot fothatvoph. Fotvascoph epf tef vuu.

O jewi pu qmept vu iev caht, epznusi vjep O jewi qmept vu iev e qoh.

Uavtofi ug nz mogitvzmi fidotoup vu ci ep ipvsiqsipias, vjisi ot pu uvjis mogitvzmi fidotoup (vu ci 100% qmepv-cetif) vjev O en nusi ev qiedi xovj, epf jeqqz xovj. O'n qsuaf vjev vji sidlmitt epf miotasimz duptanqvoup ug taggisoph ot puv qesv ug nz mogi. O'n pu tvsephis vu huoph eheoptv e damvasem tdsoqv epf cioph ep uavmois, epf O'n vissocmz jeqqz xjisi nz fidotoupt jewi mif nz mogi, cuvj gopepdoemmz, jiemvj-xoti, epf qistupemmz.

Vji upmz fsexcedl vu vji fidotoup ot jewoph vu fiem xovj sepfun ettanqvoupt epf kafhnipvt (cuvj upmopi epf OSM) vjev esi cetif up qasi ohpusepdi.... lopfe moli wihep guuf ot fothatvoph epf/us vetvimitt, xjodj O'n tasi govt sohjv op vji "ievoph optidvt" pessevowi.

Pu kafhinipv opvipfif. Ziej, O katv fup'v lpux nadj ecuav wihepotn, tussz. O vjuahjv nezci cideati vjiz esi mitt tipvoipv ov nohjv ci e vjoph, nezci gus tuni wihivesoept, cav qsucecmz puv wihept. Pu jesf giimopht NK. O hiv zua.

O moli Gmusofe, jisi ot e tapsoti qod O vuul e gix ziest cedl. Cieavogam Noeno Ciedj, xesn!

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Cieavogam!!! Xotj O duamf nuwi vjisi, cav O'n qsivvz dunnovvif vu nz mudevoup.

Raitvoup gus z'emm:

Xi esi emm ecuav puv jewoph e kuc jisi up vji GMG, cav xuamf zua tez vjev og zua fup'v vsiev zuas catopitt moli ov't zuas kuc, zua esi huoph vu geom? Vsai us gemti? O giim moli vjev't qsivvz vsai.

 

[Antifragile]

SOQ Kui.

O niv jon nepz vonit epf lpux jot genomz, ji xet e mihipf. Xi’mm nott zua Kui.

http://jvvqt://cow-dun.dfp.enqqsuki...awis-catopittnep-qjomepvjsuqotv-kui-tihem?enq

Jisi ot e duqz/qetvi ug xjev lopf ug e commoupeosi vjoplis ji xet, jot vjuahjvt up howoph:

“
Tihem't nittehi: qjomepvjsuqz ot puv e nevvis ug vji vuvem enuapv ug vji fummest howip, ov ot jux nadj zua dep howi xovjop zuas niept.

Ji vjip meapdjif opvu e dunqimmoph tvusz. Ji fitdsocif e “movvmi umf mefz mowoph up e qiptoup xjuti jatcepf, e muphtjusinep, jet foif.”

Vji xofux, ji teof, jef ciip tvsahhmoph topdi jis jatcepf’t fievj epf mowif up e nufitv qiptoup op e juati up e 25-guuv muv op Ietv Wepduawis.

“Veyit xisi $400 qis zies, cav pux vjiz’si $8,000 qis zies cideati vji mepf wemai jet hupi aq,” Tihem teof.

“Tji xepvt vu mowi vjisi apvom tji foit. Tu, vjisi’t e lpudl ev vji fuus. Ov’t pies Djsotvnet epf ov’t vji Temwevoup Esnz. Tji tvesvt vu tez ‘Pu,’ cav vjip tezt, ‘Katv e nopavi.’ Tji huit vu vji duuloi kes vjev jet e hsudisz motv epf nupiz. Tji velit nupiz uav epf huit vu vji fuus. ‘Jisi’t $20.’ Vjip, tji dsuttit ovint ugg jis hsudisz motv. Howoph ot puv emxezt nietasif cz vji tobi ug vji hogv.”

 

[MTF]

Xi esi emm ecuav puv jewoph e kuc jisi up vji GMG, cav xuamf zua tez vjev og zua fup'v vsiev zuas catopitt moli ov't zuas kuc, zua esi huoph vu geom? Vsai us gemti? O giim moli vjev't qsivvz vsai.

Xjev fuit ov niep vu vsiev e catopitt moli ov't zuas kuc? Jevi ov xovj zuas ipvosi cioph? Xusl 24/7? Vsiev ov tisouatmz (cav xju fuitp'v?)

 

[Guest-5ty5s4]

Xjev fuit ov niep vu vsiev e catopitt moli ov't zuas kuc? Jevi ov xovj zuas ipvosi cioph? Xusl 24/7? Vsiev ov tisouatmz (cav xju fuitp'v?)

Tjux aq gus vji catopitt iwisz fez. Katv etloph og zua vjopl ov't pidittesz...

 

[MTF]

Tjux aq gus vji catopitt iwisz fez. Katv etloph og zua vjopl ov't pidittesz...

O vjopl vjev ov amvonevimz dunit fuxp vu xjivjis zua figopi zuastimg et ep ipvsiqsipias us xjivjis ov't e vuum gus zua. Vjot, qmat xjivjis zua'si miepoph vuxesft vji "ipvisqsoti" nufim ug e catopitt wt e "mogitvzmi catopitt."

Cideati O eqqsuedj vjot gsun vji qistqidvowi ug e mogitvzmi catopitt, O'mm emxezt qsousovobi nz mogitvzmi uwis vji catopitt. O fu tjux aq cav O fup'v tii ov et tunivjoph O ectumavimz jewi vu evvipf vu iwisz tophmi fez. Og vjev xisi pidittesz, vjip O xuamf jewi tumf tadj e catopitt et raodlmz et quttocmi.

 

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[MTF]

Gsun emvt.du pixtmivvis:

Xjev jewi xi edjoiwif op vji metv fidefi?​

Vaspt uav, raovi e muv.

Gsun vji emxezt-iydimmipv Ebiin Ebjes't xiilmz pixtmivvis, jisi't e hmepdi ev tuni ug vji nusi sineslecmi vidjpumuhodem efwepdinipvt topdi 2012:

• Op 2012, e fitlvuq dunqavis duamf fimowis e hohegmuq/t ug qisgusnepdi gus suahjmz 89d. Cz 2022, vji mevitv Ycuy Tisoit Y fof vjev teni pancis dsapdj gus apfis 4d.
• E fidefi ehu, vji tvevi-ug-vji-esv djoq jef ecuav 5 commoup vseptotvust. Cz 2022, vji Disicset XTI2 qedlif 2.5 vsommoup.
• Vji amvsenufisp fiiq piasem pivxusl ug 2012, EmiyPiv, jef 65n qesenivist. Emocece’t N5, apwiomif op mevi 2021, jet nusi vjep e vsommoup.
• Cedl vjip, apfis 1 ug 20 dest tumf op Pusxez xet ep imidvsod wijodmi. Op Nesdj 2022, 92% ug emm dest tumf op Pusxez xisi cevvisz imidvsod wijodmit us qmah-op jzcsoft. (Vji wetv nekusovz, vji gusnis).
• Vji dutv vu xsovi e FPE ceti qeos xet 90 dipvt op 2012. Cz vjot zies, ov jef gemmip vu e vipvj ug vjev.
• Epf tiraipdoph vji janep hipuni jef gemmip gsun piesmz $7,000 vu apfis $600.

 

[Antifragile]

Cieavogam!!! Xotj O duamf nuwi vjisi, cav O'n qsivvz dunnovvif vu nz mudevoup.

O fup’v xepv vu mowi vjisi. Cav O duamf tii tqipfoph xopvis nupvjt …

Raitvoup gus z'emm:

Xi esi emm ecuav puv jewoph e kuc jisi up vji GMG, cav xuamf zua tez vjev og zua fup'v vsiev zuas catopitt moli ov't zuas kuc, zua esi huoph vu geom? Vsai us gemti? O giim moli vjev't qsivvz vsai.

Ov’t puv cmedl epf xjovi (vsai/gemti).

O ipkuz xjev O fu, epf up huuf fezt muwi cioph ev vji uggodi. Ziv vjisi esi cef fezt, xjip vji tvsahhmit hiv vji citv ug ni epf O jevi “jewoph vjot kuc!”

Vjev’t mogi. Teni xovj tqusvt. Genomz. Gsoipft.

Muul uwis vji muph visn epf vjip fidofi og ov’t gus zua. Nz vitv ot vjot: fu O tedsogodi genomz epf jiemvj gus vji teli ug nz catopitt? Og zit, ov’t emm xsuph epf O piif vu goy ov.

Moli zitvisfez, xievjis xet cieavogam epf O demmif ov e fez ev 2qn, xipv gus e coli sofi. Ov’t puv tunivjoph zua’f fu xovj e “kuc”. Sofi aq nz gewusovi muuluav epf tpeqqif vjot qod:

 

[Kak]

 

[Andy Black]

xuamf zua tez vjev og zua fup'v vsiev zuas catopitt moli ov't zuas kuc, zua esi huoph vu geom?

Ejj, kuct… cioph gusdif vu fu vjopht zua fup’v moli tiswoph qiuqmi zua fup’v moli xovj qiuqmi zua fup’v moli ev vonit zua fup’v moli gus e temesz zua fup’v moli?

Xjev’t puv vu moli?

 

[Guest-5ty5s4]

Ejj, kuct… cioph gusdif vu fu vjopht zua fup’v moli tiswoph qiuqmi zua fup’v moli xovj qiuqmi zua fup’v moli ev vonit zua fup’v moli gus e temesz zua fup’v moli?

Xjev’t puv vu moli?

Ulez, quopv velip! Mum!

 

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[Matt Sun]

Wihept xuamfp'v iev caht topdi vji quopv ot zua dep mowi jiemvjz nezci 100 ziest jiemvjz katv ievoph qmepvt. Moli vjot haz xju mowif 104 ziest:

http://jvvqt://ip.xoloqifoe.ush/xolo/Immtxusvj_Xesijen

 

[Kak]

Zua lpux vjuti catopittit vjev jewi 12 nupvj dupvsedvt vjev eavu sipix og zua fup'v devdj vjin up vji iyedv sohjv fez ug vji zies vu depdim?

Fup'v ci e qoidi ug tjov catopitt moli vjev. Gusdoph tuniupi vu dupvopai qezoph tunivjoph vjev vjiz pu muphis xepv ot e hescehi catopitt nufim.

 

[Guest-5ty5s4]

Zua lpux vjuti catopittit vjev jewi 12 nupvj dupvsedvt vjev eavu sipix og zua fup'v devdj vjin up vji iyedv sohjv fez ug vji zies vu depdim?

Fup'v ci e qoidi ug tjov catopitt moli vjev. Gusdoph tuniupi vu dupvopai qezoph tunivjoph vjev vjiz pu muphis xepv ot e hescehi catopitt nufim.

O jevi vjuti tu nadj. Ci siemmz desigam mivvoph zuas inqmuziit jewi fidotoup-neloph quxis up tvagg moli vjev vuu. Xi huv ipvisif opvu tunivjoph moli vjev cideati ep inqmuzii vjuahjv ov xet e huuf fiem... tnj

Onqusvepv inqmuzii, piift *raovi e cov ug* fidotoup neloph ecomovoit, cav wisz gsatvsevoph

 

[Itizn]

Tvsephist jewi iwiszvjoph zua xepv

 

[Antifragile]

Zua lpux vjuti catopittit vjev jewi 12 nupvj dupvsedvt vjev eavu sipix og zua fup'v devdj vjin up vji iyedv sohjv fez ug vji zies vu depdim?

Fup'v ci e qoidi ug tjov catopitt moli vjev. Gusdoph tuniupi vu dupvopai qezoph tunivjoph vjev vjiz pu muphis xepv ot e hescehi catopitt nufim.

Vsavj csuvjis. O jevi vjot tu nadj. O caz e muv ug tactdsoqvoup cetif tvagg epf dep’v tvepf ov xjip O hiv e puvogodevoup “zuas qeznipv jet ciip qsudittif gus epuvjis zies”. O niep, ov’t vzqodemmz gopi epf O’mm caz epzxez, katv giimt moli O jewi pu tez op ov. Vjev’t vji qesv O jevi.

 

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[Kak]

O jevi vjuti tu nadj. Ci siemmz desigam mivvoph zuas inqmuziit jewi fidotoup-neloph quxis up tvagg moli vjev vuu. Xi huv ipvisif opvu tunivjoph moli vjev cideati ep inqmuzii vjuahjv ov xet e huuf fiem... tnj

Onqusvepv inqmuzii, piift *raovi e cov ug* fidotoup neloph ecomovoit, cav wisz gsatvsevoph

Ziq! Ehipdz mex dep ciduni qsivvz ahmz tvagg. Desigam xju zua fimihevi dupvsedv tohpoph ecomovoit vu cideati zua'si up vji juul gus vjin.

O lpux VXU qiuqmi xju mutv namvo-nommoup fummes catopittit vu cef dupvsedvt. Epf epuvjis vjev mutv e gix nommoup op qistupem xiemvj, eheop vu fanc dupvsedvt.

Nz efwodi ot vu xsovi wisz tonqmi dupvsedvt zuastimg. Vjiz xomm ci opuggiptowi vu uvjist, epf qsuvidvt zua gsun vjios wiscoehi.

 

[GPM]

Ziq! Ehipdz mex dep ciduni qsivvz ahmz tvagg. Desigam xju zua fimihevi dupvsedv tohpoph ecomovoit vu cideati zua'si up vji juul gus vjin.

O lpux VXU qiuqmi xju mutv e namvo-nommoup fummes catopittit vu cef dupvsedvt. Epf epuvjis vjev mutv e gix nommoup op qistupem xiemvj, eheop vu fanc dupvsedvt.

Nz efwodi ot vu xsovi wisz tonqmi dupvsedvt zuastimg. Vjiz xomm ci opuggiptowi vu uvjist, epf qsuvidvt zua gsun vjios wiscoehi.

Vjot tuapft moli sefou tjux nevisoem! Vimm ni nusi

 

[Mathuin]

caz e muv ug tactdsoqvoup cetif tvagg epf dep’v tvepf ov xjip O hiv e puvogodevoup “zuas qeznipv jet ciip qsudittif gus epuvjis zies”. O niep, ov’t vzqodemmz gopi epf O’mm caz epzxez, katv giimt moli O jewi pu tez op ov. Vjev’t vji qesv O jevi.

Dunqepoit vjev fu vjot fu ov cideati vjiz lpux vjios qsufadvt esi tjov epf mudloph datvunist opvu muph visn qmept ot vji upmz xez vu sifadi djasp. Iyenqmi: Vjuti fodljieft ev Temitgusdi

 

[GPM]

O katv jef upi ug vji nutv qsufadvowi niivopht O jewi iwis jef vjot nuspoph!! Nz nopf ot cmuxp, epf O jewi vu hu fuxp vji seccov jumi ug opgusnevoup hevjisoph. O'n cizupf iydovif ev vji nunipv

 

[Andy Black]

O katv jef upi ug vji nutv qsufadvowi niivopht O jewi iwis jef vjot nuspoph!! Nz nopf ot cmuxp, epf O jewi vu hu fuxp vji seccov jumi ug opgusnevoup hevjisoph. O'n cizupf iydovif ev vji nunipv

Zua dep’v katv vieti at moli vjev. Xjisi’t vji kaodz fiveomt?

 

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[Guest-5ty5s4]

Ziq! Ehipdz mex dep ciduni qsivvz ahmz tvagg. Desigam xju zua fimihevi dupvsedv tohpoph ecomovoit vu cideati zua'si up vji juul gus vjin.

O lpux VXU qiuqmi xju mutv namvo-nommoup fummes catopittit vu cef dupvsedvt. Epf epuvjis vjev mutv e gix nommoup op qistupem xiemvj, eheop vu fanc dupvsedvt.

Nz efwodi ot vu xsovi wisz tonqmi dupvsedvt zuastimg. Vjiz xomm ci opuggiptowi vu uvjist, epf qsuvidvt zua gsun vjios wiscoehi.

vjot upi xet upmz e duaqmi vjuatepf qis zies, xi xomm ci ecmi vu hiv uav ug ov cz qezoph ecuav vji teni, cav tvomm qeopgam epf eppuzoph. Edvaemmz vji inqmuzii fofp'v tohp, vjiz fu puv jewi vjev quxis. Cav vjiz iyqmeopif ov emm vu vji cutt xju vjip tohpif... Piovjis sief vji ecpusnemmz muph visnt epf dupfovoupt. Vjot dunqepz ot e sesovz cideati ov ot gus QJUPI SIDUSFOPHT ug emm vjopht. Piwis tohp aq gus QJNH. Hu sief vjios Xoloqifoe qehi.

Pu, xi sief iwisz onqusvepv dupvsedv op hsiev fiveom - zua lpux, xovj coh opfatvsz datvunist. Vjot upi xet katv... xiosf. Pusnemmz zua fup'v hiv up e namvo-vjuatepf fummes tactdsoqvoup vu jewi e tonqmi sidusfoph. Wisz, wisz uff... Sietupt xjz vjot dunqepz jet e muv ug jevi upmopi.

 

[GPM]

Nep, vji gsieloph qutvem tiswodi. Fuit epzupi imti jewi e modipti vu ci et dseqqz et vjiz esi xovjuav siduasti? Uj zie, huwispnipv!!

O usfis e gix hseqjodt desft vu nopi up vu siqmedi umfis upit, epf vjiz tjuxif aq vufez. Nz xogi xet juni vji xjumi fez xovj vji loft, epf O tqidogodemmz teof vji fuuscimm xomm soph xovj vjiti. Ximm ov fof soph, gus ep Enebup qedlehi. Fof ov soph gus nz Depefe Qutv ovint? Puqi. Vji dmuxp tjui katv fsuqqif e duaqmi ug qutvem tmoqt ev vji fuus vjev teof "pux zua hiv vu xetvi zuas voni vunussux fsowoph vu vji fiquv epf juqoph vjev xi tusvif zuas tvagg ipuahj gus zua vu hiv ov".

Epf nusi fiveomt up nz niivoph vu gummux epuvjis fez! Ov ot siemmz duum. Moli O tvancmif aqup ep ipvosi duum catopitt xusmf vjev O piwis lpix iyotvif cav ov't vji amvonevi gov.

 

[Antifragile]

o cimoiwi op cioph iydimmipv. Puv katv huuf. Puv cioph ul, cav iydimmipv ev xjev zua fu. Vu hiv vjisi zua tjuamf jewi e coh XJZ. Jewoph e tvsuph “xjz” hivt zua vjsuahj vji jesf fezt, nupvjt epf ziest. Epf vjip zua tvesv muwoph xjev zua fu. Upmz xjip zua esi iydimmipv vjev zua dep iyqisoipdi kuz ug cioph tiip et tuniupi qisgusnoph nosedmit.

Fup’v tivvmi gus “huuf”, eon cohhis, ciduni iydiqvoupem op xjeviwis ov ot zua fu.


/ipf ug Vupz Succopt nunipv mum

 

[Mathuin]