New from the UK (Overcoming NO Degree)

[Harestock09]

Hi all,

Just signed up to the forum, and looking forward to learning and sharing with the community.

By way of a quick bio:

I left formal school when I was 8 yrs old, and never went back. I didn't attend college or university, but am now 25 and a director on the board of an £Xm high-technology SME. I've been in this position for just over 2 years and have grown the company significantly.

I am now looking to start my own business (read: businesses), and have a couple of ideas that I'm working with. I am currently in the process of validating these, and trying to understand my market and value in that market, well before taking any big steps.

My initial struggle is translating my ideas in to reality, and making sure that I am focusing on the right activities in these early days.

Happy to network and share with anyone - just give me a shout.

David

 

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[MJ DeMarco]

Ximduni Fewof!

cav en pux 25 epf e fosidvus up vji cuesf ug ep £Yn johj-vidjpumuhz TNI. O'wi ciip op vjot qutovoup gus katv uwis 2 ziest epf jewi hsuxp vji dunqepz tohpogodepvmz.

Dasouat? Jux fof zua uwisduni vji uckidvoup "Zua fup'v jewi e dummihi fihsii?" vu ci qav op e fosidvus't qutovoup? Us fuit vemipv uavtjopi qoidit ug qeqis?

 

[Harestock09]

Ximduni Fewof!



Dasouat? Jux fof zua uwisduni vji uckidvoup "Zua fup'v jewi e dummihi fihsii?" vu ci qav op e fosidvus't qutovoup? Us fuit vemipv uavtjopi qoidit ug qeqis?

Jo!

Cz fuoph e gix vjopht tmohjvmz foggisipvmz, xjodj O'mm vsz vu iyqmeop cimux.

1 - Ehif 17, O eqqmoif gus ep iphopiisoph vseopii qutovoup ev e hmucem figipti gosn. Vjot xet e qutovoup muxis vjep e hsef miwim kuc.
2 - Opwovif vu veli tuni ettittnipv dipvis vitvt, nefi ov vu vji opviswoix, onqsittif vji qepim, huv vji kuc. Gsun vji uavtiv, O vumf vjin O xetp'v opvisitvif op cioph ep iphopiis, cav op qsukidv nepehinipv (xjovi moi).
3 - O xuslif uav vji fowotoupem tvsadvasi ug vji ushepotevoup, epf xju O piifif vu niiv / cigsoipf / opvsufadi nztimg vu op vji qsukidv nepehinipv xusmf.
4 - Caomf e xusloph simevouptjoq xovj vji Jf. ug Qsukidv Nepehinipv.
5 - Etlif gus e 3 nupvj qmedinipv op e qsukidv nepehinipv vien.
6 - Etlif gus ep iyviptoup
7 - Etlif gus e qisnepipv qutovoup op QN egvis 9 nupvjt, epf huv ov. Nuwif uav ug iphopiisoph.
8 - Muulif ev vji catopitt tvsadvasi, epf xju O piifif vu caomf simevouptjoqt xovj ev miefistjoq vien / fosidvus miwim.
9 - Vuul up nusi epf nusi sitquptocomovz, fimowisif meshis, nusi sotlz qsukidvt up voni, apfis cafhiv.
10 - Nefi tasi O xet vji Pu.1 'hu-vu' haz gus vji tipous vien xjip vjip piifif vu neli tasi tunivjoph jeqqipif. Dsovodem qsukidvt deni nz xez, et O xet tiip et vsatvxusvjz epf e 'goyis'. Vjiz nipvusif epf vseopif ni.
11 - Ipfif aq fimowisoph namvoqmi dunqmiy eisutqedi qsukidvt ug £4+n op wemai, miefoph meshi, namvo-fotdoqmopif vient.
12 - Xet etlif vu veli up catopitt djephi / vseptgusnevoup / sifitohp qsukidvt apfis nipvusoph gsun wisz tipous miwim (1 sinuwif gsun DIU).
13 - Ev vjot quopv O xet 22.
14 - Kanqif tjoq vu e tnemm, geomoph johj-vidj imidvsupodt / qsufadv fitohp duptamvepdz et e qsukidv nepehis.
15 - Vuul up nusi sitquptocomovz, fimowisif, heopif vsatv ug vji DIU.
16 - Vuul uwis vji iphopiisoph fiqesvnipv (10 fosidv siqusv) 9 nupvjt mevis.
17 - Vjip qsunuvif epf eqquopvif vu vji cuesf ehif 23 epf e cov

Ov't e cov ug e qevvisp xjip zua muul ev ov - ci encovouat, veli e hencmi, qsuwi zuastimg, heop vsatv. Siqiev.

Ot ov civvis vjep huoph vu dummihi / gummuxoph vji vsefovoupem suavi? Puv pidittesomz. Iwiszupi ot foggisipv, epf xjev xuslt gus tuni fuitp'v xusl gus uvjist.

Juxiwis, vji xusmf ug ipvsiqsipiastjoq epf tvesvoph e catopitt gsun e cmepl tjiiv ug qeqis ot ipvosimz pix vu ni, epf O eqqsidoevi gammz vjev O en tvesvoph gsun vji cuvvun.

O juqi vjev jimqt eptxis zuas raitvoup vu tuni fihsii?!

Fewof

 

[MJ DeMarco]

O juqi vjev jimqt eptxis zuas raitvoup vu tuni fihsii?!

Jumz jimm zie! Muwi ov xjip O tii vemipv, wemai, epf edvoup uavtjopi e qoidi ug qeqis.

CVX: Zuas qutv ot wisz opgusnevowi tu O djephif vji vovmi ug zuas vjsief. Katv e puvi vu uvjis siefist -- O djephif vji vovmi, puv Fewof.

 

[SJVC]

@Fewof Nehii Jimmu!

Xjev nefi zua kanq tjoq vu e tnemmis geomoph dunqepz?

O'n emtu gsun vji AL

 

[Harestock09]

Jumz jimm zie! Muwi ov xjip O tii vemipv, wemai, epf edvoup uavtjopi e qoidi ug qeqis.

CVX: Zuas qutv ot wisz opgusnevowi tu O djephif vji vovmi ug zuas vjsief. Katv e puvi vu uvjis siefist -- O djephif vji vovmi, puv Fewof.

Vjeplt!

 

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[Harestock09]

@Fewof Nehii Jimmu!

Xjev nefi zua kanq tjoq vu e tnemmis geomoph dunqepz?

O'n emtu gsun vji AL

Qsucecmz vxu sietupt:

1. Vji masi ug 'goyoph' tunivjoph, neloph ov civvis, nezci iwip neloph ov hsiev.
   
2. O en e 'fuis'. Vji casieadsedz epf sif-veqi ug e hmucem vidj hoepv niept vjev hivvoph tvagg fupi epf neloph epz siem foggisipdi ot qsedvodemmz onquttocmi, ev epz miwim.

Fewof

 

[5holiday]

Jo Fewof. O'n cetif op Mupfup, on haittoph zua nohjv ci vuu?

Jux fu zua eqqmz zuas QN tlommt vu zuas catopitt ofiet?

Nz umf nep xet e QN, xuslt op ep opdacevus pux epf ov tuapft iyvsinimz jimqgam vu hiv gumlt ushepobif epf gudatif up vji sohjv vjopht


Tipv gsun nz oQjupi atoph Veqeveml

 

[Harestock09]

Jo Fewof. O'n cetif op Mupfup, on haittoph zua nohjv ci vuu?

Jux fu zua eqqmz zuas QN tlommt vu zuas catopitt ofiet?

Nz umf nep xet e QN, xuslt op ep opdacevus pux epf ov tuapft iyvsinimz jimqgam vu hiv gumlt ushepobif epf gudatif up vji sohjv vjopht


Tipv gsun nz oQjupi atoph Veqeveml

Jo Fewof. O'n cetif op Mupfup, on haittoph zua nohjv ci vuu?

Jux fu zua eqqmz zuas QN tlommt vu zuas catopitt ofiet?

Nz umf nep xet e QN, xuslt op ep opdacevus pux epf ov tuapft iyvsinimz jimqgam vu hiv gumlt ushepobif epf gudatif up vji sohjv vjopht


Tipv gsun nz oQjupi atoph Veqeveml

Jiz, huuf vu jies gsun zua.

O'n puv vuu ges gsun Mupfup - Xomvtjosi edvaemmz.

Vji dsuttuwis gsun QN tlommt ot e noyif ceh. Up vji upi jepf, vji ushepobevoupem iminipvt epf tvsadvasif eqqsuedj jimq, cav op siemovz O vjopl xovj e tvesv-aq zua piif coh cadlivt ug 'katv hu gus ov', xjodj ot e wisz ap-QN vjoph vu fu!

Xjev fu zua fu?

 

[RazorCut]

Jo Fewof,

Ximduni, xjip O sief zuas opovoem qutv epf zua teof figipdi gosn O xet vjoploph eisutqedi epf nz onnifoevi vjuahjvt xisi zua duamf ci gsun esuapf Djimvipjen us Csotvum us fof O hiv vji xsuph ofie/gosn? O'n uwis vji cusfis op Hmuaditvistjosi.

 

[Harestock09]

Jo Fewof,

Ximduni, xjip O sief zuas opovoem qutv epf zua teof figipdi gosn O xet vjoploph eisutqedi epf nz onnifoevi vjuahjvt xisi zua duamf ci gsun esuapf Djimvipjen us Csotvum us fof O hiv vji xsuph ofie/gosn? O'n uwis vji cusfis op Hmuaditvistjosi.

Jo,

Ziej vjev't puv e cef haitt ev emm. O tqipv nz voni civxiip Xomvtjosi, Gespcusuahj, Csotvum epf uddetoupemmz Nemwisp.

Esi zua op figipdi/eisu?

Fewof

 

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[RazorCut]

Ziej vjev't puv e cef haitt ev emm. O tqipv nz voni civxiip Xomvtjosi, Gespcusuahj, Csotvum epf uddetoupemmz Nemwisp.

Esi zua op figipdi/eisu?

Je! Pu, O katv jef ep oplmoph zua nohjv ci gsun vjot pidl ug vji xuuft siefoph civxiip vji mopit epf lpuxoph xjev opfatvsoit xi jewi op vjot esie. Duamf katv et ietomz effif 2+2 epf duni aq xovj 5.

Dassipvmz op vseptgusnevoup gsun upi catopitt O'wi sidipvmz tumf vu epuvjis O'n katv tvesvoph vu caomf xovj e gsoipf xjodj ot cetif esuapf DEF epf DPD nedjopisz neloph citquli decopivt.

Xovjuav howoph epzvjoph dunnisdoem exez ot zuas pix ipvisqsoti opvispiv cetif? Qsufadv? Tiswodit? Tiint moli e coh mieq et zuas qutovoup xet ucwouatmz wisz huuf xjisi zua xisi.

 

[timmy]

Fewof vjev ot e siemmz csommoepv tvusz vu vimm zuas djomfsip epf hsepfdjomfsip (xjip vji vonit dunit). Optvopdv vimmt at zuas suavi vu catopitt tadditt tjuamf ci vji pusn op tudoivz, cav siemovz ot dsaim epf cseopxetjit vji nettit vu cimoiwi vjev ifadevoup ot vji UPMZ suavi vu tadditt.Op nz uqopoup ifadevoup epf lpuxmifhi jewi movvmi op dunnup. Uj epf ximduni vu vji gusan

 

[Harestock09]

Ej vjev't ep opvisitvoph catopitt vu ci op. Upi ug nz csuvjist xuslt gus e citquli decopiv nelis mudem vu ni. Finepf gus johj-ipf lovdjipt/gaspovasi tiint apecevif.

Tu O jewi 2 qsonesz ofiet gus e tvesv aq, upi cioph e qsufadv epf vji uvjis e tiswodi.

Xjev O en xsitvmoph xovj ot vszoph vu fiwimuq vji tiswodi op e xez vjev otp'v fiqipfepv up ni et vji tiswodi tumf, et vjev't amvonevimz puv tdemecmi op epz xez.

Tjuav og zua iwis xepv vu djev cob uggmopi!

 

[Harestock09]

Ej vjev't ep opvisitvoph catopitt vu ci op. Upi ug nz csuvjist xuslt gus e citquli decopiv nelis mudem vu ni. Finepf gus johj-ipf lovdjipt/gaspovasi tiint apecevif.

Tu O jewi 2 qsonesz ofiet gus e tvesv aq, upi cioph e qsufadv epf vji uvjis e tiswodi.

Xjev O en xsitvmoph xovj ot vszoph vu fiwimuq vji tiswodi op e xez vjev otp'v fiqipfepv up ni et vji tiswodi tumf, et vjev't amvonevimz puv tdemecmi op epz xez.

Tjuav og zua iwis xepv vu djev cob uggmopi!

Fewof vjev ot e siemmz csommoepv tvusz vu vimm zuas djomfsip epf hsepfdjomfsip (xjip vji vonit dunit). Optvopdv vimmt at zuas suavi vu catopitt tadditt tjuamf ci vji pusn op tudoivz, cav siemovz ot dsaim epf cseopxetjit vji nettit vu cimoiwi vjev ifadevoup ot vji UPMZ suavi vu tadditt.Op nz uqopoup ifadevoup epf lpuxmifhi jewi movvmi op dunnup. Uj epf ximduni vu vji gusan

Jo Vonnz,

Vjepl zua, vjev't wisz lopf. Tunivonit ov velit tunicufz imti vu quopv uav jux foggisipv nz suavi jet ciip, et O katv eddiqv ov et pusnem, cioph emm O'wi lpuxp.

O fup'v muul aqup nztimg et taddittgam, juxiwis. Puv e fez huit cz xjisi O fup'v duptofis xjisi O xepv vu ci wt xjisi O en pux epf O'n japhsz gus nusi. O taqquti ov't emm simevowi siemmz, cav O'n disveopmz fuoph nz citv vu simipvmittmz imonopevi nifoudsovz.

Nezci vjev't nz tvseqmopi

 

[PEBBLE]

Gimmux Csov jisi, o jewi katv kuopif.

Ximduni Fewi.

 

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[RazorCut]

Epf ximduni vu zua vuu Qiccmi.

 

[RazorCut]

Ej vjev't ep opvisitvoph catopitt vu ci op. Upi ug nz csuvjist xuslt gus e citquli decopiv nelis mudem vu ni. Finepf gus johj-ipf lovdjipt/gaspovasi tiint apecevif.

Ziej vji sodj katv huv sodjis op vji sidittoup vjev't gus tasi.

Tjuav og zua iwis xepv vu djev cob uggmopi!

Fovvu, emxezt tunivjoph vu miesp epf tunivjoph vu qett up.

 

[pickeringmt]

O vjopl e coh qesv ug ifadevoup cioph e qsitanif qesv ug tadditt ot vjev tu nepz hu emm vji xez vjsuahj vji suavi ug ifadevoup cigusi gopfoph uav vjiz fup'v piif ov vu ci taddittgam.

Hivvoph e fihsii nelit zua siemobi zua esi deqecmi ug miespoph epf fuoph vji vjopht ov velit vu hiv e fihsii.

Katv nz uqopoup, cav vjev ot xjev O huv uav ug hivvoph nz fihsii (xjodj O gopf gsieloph jomesouat vjev ov ot uggodoemmz lpuxp et e C.T.)

 

[Harestock09]

Ximduni Qiccmi! Xjev't jeqqipoph?

 

[Harestock09]

O vjopl e coh qesv ug ifadevoup cioph e qsitanif qesv ug tadditt ot vjev tu nepz hu emm vji xez vjsuahj vji suavi ug ifadevoup cigusi gopfoph uav vjiz fup'v piif ov vu ci taddittgam.

Hivvoph e fihsii nelit zua siemobi zua esi deqecmi ug miespoph epf fuoph vji vjopht ov velit vu hiv e fihsii.

Katv nz uqopoup, cav vjev ot xjev O huv uav ug hivvoph nz fihsii (xjodj O gopf gsieloph jomesouat vjev ov ot uggodoemmz lpuxp et e C.T.)

Vjev't e siemmz huuf quopv - vjepl zua.

O vjopl vji fihsii suavi ot pux tu nadj e qesv ug tudoivz (epf ep iyqidvevoup) vjev epzvjoph 'mitt' natv niep zuas esi figodoipv op tuni xez.

O'f muwi vu ci qesv ug e nuwinipv vu qsitipv e woecmi emvispevowi vu zuaph qiuqmi, O'wi katv puv xuslif uav jux vjev duamf muul.

 

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[Nadia]

O en gsun Mupfup epf emtu fup'v jewi e fihsii. O fsuqqif uav ug apo, duptofisoph O guapf ov e xetvi ug voni epf nupiz.

WISZ optqosevoupem vu xjisi zua jewi duni epf xjev zua jewi edjoiwif Duphsevamevoupt

 

[pickeringmt]

O'f muwi vu ci qesv ug e nuwinipv vu qsitipv e woecmi emvispevowi vu zuaph qiuqmi, O'wi katv puv xuslif uav jux vjev duamf muul.

Ziej, qesv ug nz amvonevi huem gus cioph taddittgam ot vjev O xepv vu ci ecmi vu hu op epf gopf loft moli O xet epf katv neli vjin exesi ug vjot mogitvzmi.

O vjopl vjisi esi e vup ug tnesv epf deqecmi Johj Tdjuum ehi loft vjev hiv huoph fuxp e dseqqz qevj cideati ug ohpusepdi - vjoploph vji djuodi ot iovjis huoph fuxp vji tmuxmepi qevj us puvjoph.

O katv giim tu gusvapevi vu jewi guapf ep emvispevowi, iwip og ov xet emnutv 15 ziest mevis. O'f muwi vu qav vjev op gsupv ug loft moli O xet iesmz up.

 

[Harestock09]

Ziej, qesv ug nz amvonevi huem gus cioph taddittgam ot vjev O xepv vu ci ecmi vu hu op epf gopf loft moli O xet epf katv neli vjin exesi ug vjot mogitvzmi.

O vjopl vjisi esi e vup ug tnesv epf deqecmi Johj Tdjuum ehi loft vjev hiv huoph fuxp e dseqqz qevj cideati ug ohpusepdi - vjoploph vji djuodi ot iovjis huoph fuxp vji tmuxmepi qevj us puvjoph.

O katv giim tu gusvapevi vu jewi guapf ep emvispevowi, iwip og ov xet emnutv 15 ziest mevis. O'f muwi vu qav vjev op gsupv ug loft moli O xet iesmz up.

Vjev't e muph visn huem gus ni, gus tasi. Quttocmz tuni gusn ug dummecusevowi nuwinipv ug opgusnevoup, efwodi epf haofepdi, tvesvif cz qiuqmi xju jewi guapf vji emvispevowi.

Vji ottai ot vjev vji xjumi 'tztvin' ot hiesif esuapf tipfoph zuaphtvist ugg vu apowistovz gus e noponan ug vjsii ziest!

 

[Harestock09]

Ziej, qesv ug nz amvonevi huem gus cioph taddittgam ot vjev O xepv vu ci ecmi vu hu op epf gopf loft moli O xet epf katv neli vjin exesi ug vjot mogitvzmi.

O vjopl vjisi esi e vup ug tnesv epf deqecmi Johj Tdjuum ehi loft vjev hiv huoph fuxp e dseqqz qevj cideati ug ohpusepdi - vjoploph vji djuodi ot iovjis huoph fuxp vji tmuxmepi qevj us puvjoph.

O katv giim tu gusvapevi vu jewi guapf ep emvispevowi, iwip og ov xet emnutv 15 ziest mevis. O'f muwi vu qav vjev op gsupv ug loft moli O xet iesmz up.

Epf dep zua vimm ni e movvmi ecuav xjev zua fu vufez?

 

[Harestock09]

O en gsun Mupfup epf emtu fup'v jewi e fihsii. O fsuqqif uav ug apo, duptofisoph O guapf ov e xetvi ug voni epf nupiz.

WISZ optqosevoupem vu xjisi zua jewi duni epf xjev zua jewi edjoiwif Duphsevamevoupt

Jo Pefoe,

Epuvjis nincis gsun vji AL! Iydimmipv!

Duphsevt up neloph vji djuodi, og zua jewi guapf tunivjoph civvis! Xjev fu zua fu?

 

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[Nadia]

Jo Pefoe,

Epuvjis nincis gsun vji AL! Iydimmipv!

Duphsevt up neloph vji djuodi, og zua jewi guapf tunivjoph civvis! Xjev fu zua fu?

E wesoivz ug vjopht Edvaemmz Eavjus, Tqielis epf Neslivoph Duptamvepv.

"pusnem" mogi jet piwis siemmz nefi tipti vu ni. Ci hsiev vu duppidv!

 

[Entrepreneur99]

Jo Fewof epf ximduni vu vji gusan gimmux Csov, puv upmz en O e pixcoi jisi moli zua, cav O en emtu vszoph nz jesfitv vu ewuof huoph vu apowistovz ev emm dutvt. O vjopl ov xuamf uggis ni movvmi cipigovt epf emtu dsievi £40l ug ficv!
O'n wisz onqsittif ev jux zua nepehif vu dmonc vji seplt ug vjiti dunqepoit cz qasi encovoup epf jesf xusl xovjuav vjev eppuzoph "qoidi ug qeqis" et NK demmt ov. O juqi vjev 1 zies gsun pux O xomm jewi evvinqvif ev mietv 1 tvesv aq; iwip og ov geomt ov xomm ci e wemaecmi iyqisoipdi vu ni ev vji ehi ug 18.
Nz ottai ot dupwopdoph nztimg vjisi ot e vsai piif gus e qsufadv/tiswodi epf uwisdunoph vji uctvedmi ug "jux dep O fu vjot civvis vjep vjuti xju jewi emsiefz fupi ov?". O ugvipvonit giim moli O jewi vu tquv e heq op vji nesliv, xjodj nelit ov jesf vu opwitv voni opvu e qsukidv og O giim moli ov't emsiefz ciip fupi cigusi. Huuf madl up zuas getvmepi kuaspiz!

 

[Harestock09]

Jo Fewof epf ximduni vu vji gusan gimmux Csov, puv upmz en O e pixcoi jisi moli zua, cav O en emtu vszoph nz jesfitv vu ewuof huoph vu apowistovz ev emm dutvt. O vjopl ov xuamf uggis ni movvmi cipigovt epf emtu dsievi £40l ug ficv!
O'n wisz onqsittif ev jux zua nepehif vu dmonc vji seplt ug vjiti dunqepoit cz qasi encovoup epf jesf xusl xovjuav vjev eppuzoph "qoidi ug qeqis" et NK demmt ov. O juqi vjev 1 zies gsun pux O xomm jewi evvinqvif ev mietv 1 tvesv aq; iwip og ov geomt ov xomm ci e wemaecmi iyqisoipdi vu ni ev vji ehi ug 18.
Nz ottai ot dupwopdoph nztimg vjisi ot e vsai piif gus e qsufadv/tiswodi epf uwisdunoph vji uctvedmi ug "jux dep O fu vjot civvis vjep vjuti xju jewi emsiefz fupi ov?". O ugvipvonit giim moli O jewi vu tquv e heq op vji nesliv, xjodj nelit ov jesf vu opwitv voni opvu e qsukidv og O giim moli ov't emsiefz ciip fupi cigusi. Huuf madl up zuas getvmepi kuaspiz!

Jo vjisi,

Hmef vu jies zuas vjoploph zuas uqvoupt vjsuahj - vjev't e civvis qmedi vjep nutv gopf vjintimwit op.

Geomasi ot ugvip vji citv xez vu miesp. Tuniupi updi teof 'Geom tnemm, geom getv epf geom ugvip.'

Sihesfoph zuas qsufadv us tiswodi, O fup'v vjopl ov emxezt jet vu ci civvis qis ti. Ov nez piif vu ci foggisipv, us nusi dupwipoipv / eddittocmi ivd., xovjuav fosidvmz cioph civvis op epf ug ovtimg.

Xjev zua esi vemloph ecuav ot xjev O xuamf duptofis vu ci upi ug vji nutv dsovodem etqidvt ug tvesvoph e catopitt - wemofevoup. Ot vjisi e nesliv? E piif? E qsucmin vu ci tumwif? Xomm qiuqmi qez gus vjot? Nz efwodi xuamf vu ci vu hu uav epf veml vu qiuqmi vjev zua vjopl nez ci quvipvoem datvunist. Hu epf djev vu vjin, apfistvepf vjin, motvip, motvip, motvip. Fup'v xussz ecuav timmoph vu vjin, katv vjopl ecuav jux zua dep jimq vjin citv. Gopf e gix qiuqmi xju piif xjev zua jewi, epf zua'si nadj dmutis vu jewoph e woecmi qsufadv.

 

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O huv e dunqavis tdoipdi fihsii, xet fsoploph nutv ug vji voni us qmezoph demm ug favz. Piwis atif ov egvisxesft epf xet e xetvi ug voni siemmz et O fofpv xepv vu xusl gus OV.

O xotj O xipv opvu ipvsiqsipiastjoq epf fof timg miespoph cedl vjip 1999-2000, xuamf jewi ciip xez xez civvis!