Lex's Digital/Physical Product Group Accountability Thread

[Lex DeVille]

I have a question, are you selling with inserts/leaflets etc? Only asking as I’m about to launch and wondering if it’s even worth doing that at this point without know if the product will work or no. Would be an extra $100 for inserts

I don't understand what you are asking. Are you talking about some kind of insert that goes in the product when you ship it?

 

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[Lex DeVille]

Mid-Month August
Things are going reasonably well this month. Sales are up from this time last month. Just crossed the halfway point and I'm just shy of $1500 which puts me on track for close to $3k if sales hold. So far, my website is the primary earner this month, followed by ebay.

Google Ads
I turned off Google ads. Costs were increasing, but I wasn't seeing sales. So in addition to sales being up, my expenses will be down by about $700 in ad spend. I'll probably start ads up again by October, but don't really need them right now.

Price Points
I tested a couple of products at the $99 price point this month. Both items sold. Going forward, I'm working a limited number of $99 items into my listings. I'll probably list 1 - 2 of these per week. Nothing is different about the items compared with the $49 items except the price. It's weird what people will buy.

Inventory
I'm starting to run low on my best pallet auction jewelry. I've still got a lot of jewelry that can be sold, but it doesn't exactly fit the brand. I'll still try to sell it, but I need to start sourcing jewelry soon so I have plenty for the upcoming holiday season.

FB Ads
I haven't started any FB ads, but they're in the back of my mind for the holiday season. In the past, I've bought Christmas gifts through sites I came across from FB ads.

Courses
I mapped out a course for my audience. I want to charge $397 - $497 for it. Just need to find the time to create the content. It doesn't have to be anything flashy. Most of it doesn't even need to be talking head. I don't know how much interest there will be, and my email list is still pretty small, but even one to two sales per month would add a good chunk of cash to my bottom line.

 

[Bounce Back]

Google Ads
I turned off Google ads. Costs were increasing, but I wasn't seeing sales. So in addition to sales being up, my expenses will be down by about $700 in ad spend. I'll probably start ads up again by October, but don't really need them right now.

I know you've mentioned having a group of customers that seem to come back every month among the customers you get. Do you have anyway to know where they originally came from or what makes them different?

I'm wondering if your channels haven't changed perhaps you still have your fishing pole in the lake of those type of customers but on paper each month it would appear like a loss but if you get 1 lets say annual revenue from them offsets a bunch of the month's loss on ad spend. Just thinking out loud here.

I've read a lot of your stuff over the years from from what I recall and the jewelry one so far to me is sticking out as having a good amount of natural traction. In some of my ancient progress threads I had tried kicking off similar but branded and I took to long tinkering with branding and Alibaba sourcing. Have a name picked out that I still think is solid for the market that I will most likely never use though I know that means nothing haha.

Props hat you have just jumped in and made something. Rooting for ya man.

 

[Lex DeVille]

I know you've mentioned having a group of customers that seem to come back every month among the customers you get. Do you have anyway to know where they originally came from or what makes them different?

They came from Google Ads initially. Some of them come back every month, some take a month or two in between. Currently, I've got 4 - 6 who regularly return, both male and female. One of these customers generally does offset the loss, and I still think the ads are worth it, but I want to adjust the targeting and ad campaigns a bit.

Most new sales and customers come from Ebay.

I've read a lot of your stuff over the years from from what I recall and the jewelry one so far to me is sticking out as having a good amount of natural traction.

So far it's going pretty well. I expect sales to pick up over the next couple of months, so I'll need to think about how to simplify my systems and have more product available while having fewer items to list.

 

[DCG]

Update: The previous business Idea I did didn't work due to me doing what I wanted to do, rather than what the market wanted to. As a result, I got poor sales. I setup a new website with new products that are based on successful proven products on online marketplaces and proven keywords. I setup ads and I am also going to to some SEO work if the products sell.

What to do Next: I need to wait for google to approve of my ad and see how it goes. If things go well, I should be able to get some sales. I'm also thinking about putting my products on online marketplaces for more reach but I like the control of my own website. I'm not going to do SEO and other forms of marketing yet just because I want to see if my product will sell well at all which I have a feeling that they will because I'm going by proven products that people need rather than my own selfish desires to make money.

 

[Lorenzoo]

Update: The previous business Idea I did didn't work due to me doing what I wanted to do, rather than what the market wanted to. As a result, I got poor sales. I setup a new website with new products that are based on successful proven products on online marketplaces and proven keywords. I setup ads and I am also going to to some SEO work if the products sell.

What to do Next: I need to wait for google to approve of my ad and see how it goes. If things go well, I should be able to get some sales. I'm also thinking about putting my products on online marketplaces for more reach but I like the control of my own website. I'm not going to do SEO and other forms of marketing yet just because I want to see if my product will sell well at all which I have a feeling that they will because I'm going by proven products that people need rather than my own selfish desires to make money.

happened to me too, several times. before i had my first success in sales i've constantly tried to make the market "mine" so to say and ignore the actual wants of the people

 

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[Lex DeVille]

August Sales: $1948.41 (+589.34)
- Thrivecart: 119.88 (-119.88)
- WooCommerce: $1168.86 (+709.22)
- Ebay: $679.73 (+20.06)

August Expenses: $163 (-$620)
- Google Ads: $41 (-$592)
- FOMO: $25 (-$50)
- ActiveCampaign: $97 (+22)
- Physical Inventory: $0 (-0)

August Profit: $1785.41 (+1209.34)

After mid-month August slowed way down and felt a lot like July. I kept listing around 3 new items per day but it didn't make much difference. That said, August's revenue and profit was clearly up from July. Hopefully, with Labor Day upon us and moving into September, I'll start to see changes in more positive directions.

Google Ads:
I turned Google ads almost all the way off, so didn't spend much there. Don't know if I'll run ads in Sept, but maybe.

ActiveCampaign
AC continues to be a bunch of shareholder a$$-licking douchebags, so I dropped them again. First, they increased my subscription price from $75 to $97 for improved services. Then I found AC moved some of the functions of my plan to a more expensive plan!! So they just turned my existing automations off and I can't use them anymore... I'm talking about a basic function that I've had since I started using AC like 10 years ago... Go F*ck yourselves AC!! I hate you so much.

FOMO
Since I have less traffic to my site, I downgraded to the basic plan. No need to pay for impressions I'm not getting. FOMO automatically notifies you if you run out of impressions, so I can upgrade if I get close to that point.

Changes for September
Nothing big on my list. At this point, the plan is to continue listing items, and maybe run some new ads. I'll implement a different email service and see how things play out. My plan for this as a business is to complete a full year so I can see what the total profit looks like, then decide if I want to continue with it "all-in," write it off as another side hustle, or sell it.

I won't reach 1 year until February, so I've still got a while. I still expect the holiday season from this month through December to be much more profitable than the first half of the year.

 

[DCG]

Small Update: It's been a day or two since I started ads and I got 9 impressions, 2 clicks but no conversions


To be fair, I basically have no experience which does make things a little harder but that's okay, I'm willing to learn. As I said earlier, my products are based on other successful products that I had replicated for my niche.


Goal: My goal going forward is to get a sale. I'll do this by creating new products, fixing my ads for maximum conversions, tracking analytics and using things like Microsoft Clarity to see what people are clicking on, make my website look more creditable and to make my products as helpful to the people I'm selling to as possible. As long as I put the work in, it's likely that I can get a sale. Although I do have a question, do I need a landing page or would my home page suffice?

 

[Cameraman]

tracking analytics and using things like Microsoft Clarity to see what people are clicking on,

Thanks for mentioning this. I wasn't aware of Microsoft Clarity. I remember when it was possible to see heatmaps with Google Analytics (how old am I). I've just installed it to my site.

 

[DCG]

Update: I realized that I was overcomplicating the process, for example I did performance max ads rather than just search ads. So I focused on simplifying the process making a one really good product. I put up the ad for about two days and though I have a good CTR, I still don't have any sales yet.


What To Do Next: The problem is obvious in that I don't have any conversions yet so I need to keep moving the needle until I get a sale, whether that is optimizing keywords, the description or making my website better. I'm also going to add some variations to my product based on what people have been searching for with my ads.

 

[Lex DeVille]

Mid-Month
September started to worry me. After one $99 sale, it went quiet. Then some dude ordered close to $1000 of jewelry. After that I picked up more orders over $100, so I've generated $1,702.20 before mid-month. That's close to the total profit for last month, so unless the second half of Sept tanks, it looks like things are on the rise.

Sell This Business?
I've started thinking about selling when the new year rolls around. Once I get through the holiday season, I'll have an idea about what a year's worth of sales looks like. The business isn't completely automated, but it is simple (in concept). The most time-consuming part is listing items. I often lack motivation to do it, but even listing 3 items per day is enough.

The Good
- The website basically runs itself
- Traffic comes organically via Google or Ebay
- Sourcing products is simple and affordable
- Except for listing items and shipping, it's hands off
- Little to no competition due to the niche
- Very low refund rate
- Very low overhead

The Challenges
- Listing items is time-consuming
- Not sure how big the total consumer market is
- Some of the customers are particularly whiny/needy
- A majority of sales come from repeat customers, not new customers
- The niche isn't everyone's cup of tea

I wish I weren't banned from Etsy. Total sales would double in a month or two. On a bright note, if the buyer can sell on Etsy, they'll have an excellent new customer source.

For now, selling the business is just a thought.

Maybe I'll change my mind later this year, but I'm starting a local service in my other thread, and want to focus on it once it has traction. I'm reasonably confident I'll be booked full shortly after launch, and will need to upgrade equipment and purchase more than one vehicle, so having extra cash on hand would be nice.

 

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[Lex DeVille]

Sales
More sales the past few days. Currently at $2,142.34. Close to being the highest profit month.

Branding
I overhauled the site's branding to bring the colors in line with customer expectations. Had ChatGPT create a new logo and edited it in Canva. Now it's a friendlier, sticker-worthy design.

Product Changes
Had my first chargeback in months. It was for a digital product. So I got rid of all digital products. I'll focus exclusively on physical going forward. It makes the site easier to manage, plus digital only brings in a couple hundred per month, so not a big loss.

WooCommerce to Ebay Integration
I'm looking into integrations between the two sites so I can cut down time spent duplicating listings.

Videos
Still on my to-do list. I plan to record some new videos either today or tomorrow.

Google Ads
Set up a new ad that runs to the physical products. Hopefully this will generate new customers. Also running a little bit of ads to the lead magnet below.

Lead Magnet
I made one of the digital products into a lead magnet. It collects the users name and email on submission, then redirects to an upsell afterward for a physical product.

Google Sheets Integration
Got rid of ActiveCampaign, so no more $100/mo payments for basic email automations. Instead, I'm collecting names and emails into a Google Sheet for free through a contact form.

International Orders
I hate filling out customs forms and dealing with international orders, so I now require all international orders to go through my ebay store instead of my website. That way I only have to ship the products to ebay and let them deal with international bullshit.

Hopefully these changes lead to positive results both in sales and automation.

 

[Cameraman]

Sales
More sales the past few days. Currently at $2,142.34. Close to being the highest profit month.

Branding
I overhauled the site's branding to bring the colors in line with customer expectations. Had ChatGPT create a new logo and edited it in Canva. Now it's a friendlier, sticker-worthy design.

Product Changes
Had my first chargeback in months. It was for a digital product. So I got rid of all digital products. I'll focus exclusively on physical going forward. It makes the site easier to manage, plus digital only brings in a couple hundred per month, so not a big loss.

WooCommerce to Ebay Integration
I'm looking into integrations between the two sites so I can cut down time spent duplicating listings.

Videos
Still on my to-do list. I plan to record some new videos either today or tomorrow.

Google Ads
Set up a new ad that runs to the physical products. Hopefully this will generate new customers. Also running a little bit of ads to the lead magnet below.

Lead Magnet
I made one of the digital products into a lead magnet. It collects the users name and email on submission, then redirects to an upsell afterward for a physical product.

Google Sheets Integration
Got rid of ActiveCampaign, so no more $100/mo payments for basic email automations. Instead, I'm collecting names and emails into a Google Sheet for free through a contact form.

International Orders
I hate filling out customs forms and dealing with international orders, so I now require all international orders to go through my ebay store instead of my website. That way I only have to ship the products to ebay and let them deal with international bullshit.

Hopefully these changes lead to positive results both in sales and automation.

Thanks for the update. Inspiring as always.

 

[DCG]

Big Update: I got some bad news and some great news. The bad news is that I can't do the digital products anymore because I was bleeding way more money then I thought and I wasn't getting any sales for weeks. I applied to several jobs at my college and elsewhere and I didn't hear anything back.

The Great News: The great news is that I'm doing web design again. This is because I was asking a previous client if I could show her website to other businesses to show the results that she got and she told me that she knows someone that wants me to make a website for them. I'm making plans to talk to him about it and to see what problems of his business I can solve for him with my website skills. If you want to see how well this goes for me then I would suggest to go on this thread EXECUTION - Getting Clients Journey. While I regret not thinking of this earlier, I'm still super happy that I got a referral for my work. It feels great to make a positive impact on someone

 

[Lex DeVille]

Once again, the second half of the month was completely dead. Zero sales after the 15th. People are on my site. They're viewing my ebay products too, but not buying. This has to be one of the most frustrating online business ideas I've ever tried.

Digital to Physical
I removed all digital products and replaced with physical products of the same item. The physical product even comes with extras as part of the package and all for the same price. I added around 80 new product listings to expand the offerings because people were asking for things that I didn't have available before. I'm also running ads, sending marketing emails, and even offered a buy 1 get 2 free to my list. Still, no sales.

Video Content
This got delayed because I caught a cold and then caught covid so I've been dead for the past two weeks. Now that I'm starting the climb to recovery, I'm ready to make some video content and see if I can reach a wider audience.

Ads
I set up a few new ads to test. They're getting people to the website, and those people are browsing around quite a bit. I have an ad running to each different product type, so maybe this will bring some new customers to the site.

Removing My Face
My face is no longer on the site. I did this to make it easier to sell if/when the time comes. The videos will also be faceless since the brand isn't meant to be attached to me personally.

Going Forward
Will wait to see what October brings. The only big changes I have planned for the immediate future are the addition of video content, increasing my email list, and maybe building up the Facebook page as a funnel to the website. Beyond that, I'll keep listing new items daily and see what happens. Might test some guerilla marketing strategies.

 

[Lex DeVille]

September Sales: $2152.23 (+$203.82)
- Thrivecart: $229.79 (+$109.91)
- WooCommerce: $519.67 (-$649.19)
- Ebay: $1402.77 (+$723.04)

September Expenses: $49.67(-$113.33)
- Google Ads: $24.67 (-$16.33)
- FOMO: $25 (Same)
- ActiveCampaign: $0 (-$97)
- Physical Inventory: $0 (-$0)

September Profit: $2102.56 (+$317.15)

Although September ended with a major slowdown, it was still a good month overall. Expenses were down. Sales were up.

Part of the problem (and I didn't find this out until two days ago) was I updated my checkout and it caused an error. Once I made the update, customers could no longer complete checkout, but nobody sent a message about it. Monday, I planned to check for errors just in case, but then a customer confirmed an error, so I fixed it.

Now that checkout works again, sales are starting to roll in for October, although not as quickly as last month.

Some of the new physical products are selling, so that's good.

For October, I've got Google Ads turned running to the new products. Hopefully we'll see new customers.

For now, I don't know what to expect.

I thought September - January would be huge months, but Sept. was kind of a let down. October is moving slowly so far.

Going Forward
My big goals for this month:

- Get old products listed in a "Clearance" page at lower prices.
- Send more emails to my list
- Grow my list
- Start preparing Black Friday promotions

 

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[BPH1994]

Hey @Lex DeVille , wanted to read through your entire thread before leaving my reply and asking my questions. Read through your older one too, just haven't read the very first one back in 2022 since I discovered that afterward. Sorry to hear about what happened to you last year where you mentioned how you got scammed and lost almost everything.

Anyway, everything I read tells me to lead with value, and I haven't seen anybody mention this earlier, so have you ever considered using GoHighLevel for a majority of your business?

It has a website builder, connects with Stripe where you can upload your products, allows you to set up email automations, purchase a business phone number so you don't have to use your actual phone, allows you to set up a branded email, connects all your socials so you can see any inquiries through email/Facebook/Instagram all in one place, allows you to add employees that have access when you decide to hire, and even allows you set up and save templates (called Snapshots) so that if you ever want to copy + paste your business for a new product you don't have to set everything back up - just adjust the details for the new site.

It would essentially replace ThriveCart, WooCommerce, ActiveCampaign, WordPress, etc.

There's even something called HL Pro Tools, which acts as a support service for the platform that is LEAGUES better than GoHighLevel's own technical support - they helped me build out my SAAS tool on the site, and the CEO himself stopped in to respond to my support tickets sometimes.

GoHighLevel is $97/mo for the basic plan I believe, and sounds like it would save you some of the headaches you're having now.

Anyway, onto my questions:

1. Before you got scammed it sounded like you had a pretty good system set up where you were doing about $4,000 per month. Why didn't you resume whatever that was instead of starting this current venture with physical products which seems to be much less consistent?
2. One thing that confused me was when you mentioned finding winning products with lots of sales and applying them to a niche, but also mentioning something along the lines of shooting for 50+ listings? What does that mean? Are you finding 1 winning product and making 50 variations of it, or are you creating that product and 49 other things adjacent to it?
3. Etsy sounds like they really screwed you over, but it also sounds like you still think it's an amazing platform to get started. If you had access to it now, do you think your numbers would be significantly higher? Do you still suggest it as a good place for those of us following along to start with, as opposed to creating our own websites and trying to drive traffic?
4. And finally, with 2 months left of the year, and 4 more left of YOUR year, what would you do differently or recommend to others that you've learned from trying to make this work? It seems like you're working VERY hard to build a business that's providing part-time income, and isn't doing quite as well as the previous site. Does what you're doing now seem like the way forward, or do you think you might've had a better time reviving one of your old products?

 

[Lex DeVille]

It has a website builder, connects with Stripe where you can upload your products, allows you to set up email automations, purchase a business phone number so you don't have to use your actual phone, allows you to set up a branded email, connects all your socials so you can see any inquiries through email/Facebook/Instagram all in one place, allows you to add employees that have access when you decide to hire, and even allows you set up and save templates (called Snapshots) so that if you ever want to copy + paste your business for a new product you don't have to set everything back up - just adjust the details for the new site.

It would essentially replace ThriveCart, WooCommerce, ActiveCampaign, WordPress, etc.

I've seen GHL, but wouldn't consider it. I wouldn't want one system controlling that many pieces of my business. What happens if they shut you down? Then you have nothing. Usually, systems like GHL lack customization which is a big no-go for me. It's the main reason I use WordPress over Shopify.

Before you got scammed it sounded like you had a pretty good system set up where you were doing about $4,000 per month. Why didn't you resume whatever that was instead of starting this current venture with physical products which seems to be much less consistent?

My products are similar to the products I had before. There's a lot of overlap with the audiences. I don't see the sales results as a matter of consistency. I started the previous site at the end of October and sales benefited from the holiday rush. The current one started in Jan/Feb and hasn't seen it's first holiday season yet. Until that happens, I won't know whether this idea is worth continuing or not. That's why I chose to stick with it for a year before trying another product/website.

One thing that confused me was when you mentioned finding winning products with lots of sales and applying them to a niche, but also mentioning something along the lines of shooting for 50+ listings? What does that mean? Are you finding 1 winning product and making 50 variations of it, or are you creating that product and 49 other things adjacent to it?

I look for one product idea that can have many variations. A good example would be a resume template. It's a digital document where you have one main template that you modify slightly for different niches or categories.

Product: Resume Template
- Variation 1: Customer Service Resume
- Variation 2: Law Firm Resume
- Variation 3: Accounting Firm Resume

All of these are the same core product with as few differences as possible between them while still being valuable and targeted for customers.

Etsy sounds like they really screwed you over, but it also sounds like you still think it's an amazing platform to get started. If you had access to it now, do you think your numbers would be significantly higher? Do you still suggest it as a good place for those of us following along to start with, as opposed to creating our own websites and trying to drive traffic?

If I had Etsy, my sales would be double or triple what they are right now. I think it's a good place to start if the product is creative at all. They have a huge audience and their paid ads are simple. You can have an Etsy store set up in a day with sales coming in the same day potentially. Building out web systems usually takes longer and carries more investment and risk.

And finally, with 2 months left of the year, and 4 more left of YOUR year, what would you do differently or recommend to others that you've learned from trying to make this work? It seems like you're working VERY hard to build a business that's providing part-time income, and isn't doing quite as well as the previous site. Does what you're doing now seem like the way forward, or do you think you might've had a better time reviving one of your old products?

The main difference I would suggest is choosing a product with a mainstream audience. My products target a super niche audience because I like working on very creative ideas, but that also makes it harder to reach people and can stifle sales. Plus, when push comes to shove, my customers don't really NEED my products. They just want them.

When I choose my next digital product, I'll target an audience that really needs my product. It won't fit the "want" category and will be something that removes a roadblock for someone. As far as replicable digital products are concerned, resumes are a good example of that, because people get stuck writing them and miss out on job opportunities.

 

[BPH1994]

I've seen GHL, but wouldn't consider it. I wouldn't want one system controlling that many pieces of my business. What happens if they shut you down? Then you have nothing. Usually, systems like GHL lack customization which is a big no-go for me. It's the main reason I use WordPress over Shopify.



My products are similar to the products I had before. There's a lot of overlap with the audiences. I don't see the sales results as a matter of consistency. I started the previous site at the end of October and sales benefited from the holiday rush. The current one started in Jan/Feb and hasn't seen it's first holiday season yet. Until that happens, I won't know whether this idea is worth continuing or not. That's why I chose to stick with it for a year before trying another product/website.



I look for one product idea that can have many variations. A good example would be a resume template. It's a digital document where you have one main template that you modify slightly for different niches or categories.

Product: Resume Template
- Variation 1: Customer Service Resume
- Variation 2: Law Firm Resume
- Variation 3: Accounting Firm Resume

All of these are the same core product with as few differences as possible between them while still being valuable and targeted for customers.



If I had Etsy, my sales would be double or triple what they are right now. I think it's a good place to start if the product is creative at all. They have a huge audience and their paid ads are simple. You can have an Etsy store set up in a day with sales coming in the same day potentially. Building out web systems usually takes longer and carries more investment and risk.



The main difference I would suggest is choosing a product with a mainstream audience. My products target a super niche audience because I like working on very creative ideas, but that also makes it harder to reach people and can stifle sales. Plus, when push comes to shove, my customers don't really NEED my products. They just want them.

When I choose my next digital product, I'll target an audience that really needs my product. It won't fit the "want" category and will be something that removes a roadblock for someone. As far as replicable digital products are concerned, resumes are a good example of that, because people get stuck writing them and miss out on job opportunities.

Thanks for the reply, I appreciate the clarification.

I've been reading through some of the progress threads to try and find inspiration and get an idea of what success looks like throughout the journey, rather than the result at the end. Your thread caught my attention because I have to juggle whatever I decide to do with a full-time job, and what you've done here is something I could see myself doing since a lot of my past failures have taught me some of the skills you're using - albeit through GoHighLevel.

One last question I had while reading your response that I forgot to post originally:

What is your goal with this process?

Are you looking to scale your business across multiple stores, use them as passive income, and replace your full-time income? Are you looking to create a successful model to sell off as an exit? Or are you just looking to see if you can make this niche product work in the current market, or at least work well enough to make some passive income through it?

How far would you want this to go if you had it your way?

 

[Lex DeVille]

Thanks for the reply, I appreciate the clarification.

I've been reading through some of the progress threads to try and find inspiration and get an idea of what success looks like throughout the journey, rather than the result at the end. Your thread caught my attention because I have to juggle whatever I decide to do with a full-time job, and what you've done here is something I could see myself doing since a lot of my past failures have taught me some of the skills you're using - albeit through GoHighLevel.

One last question I had while reading your response that I forgot to post originally:

What is your goal with this process?

Are you looking to scale your business across multiple stores, use them as passive income, and replace your full-time income? Are you looking to create a successful model to sell off as an exit? Or are you just looking to see if you can make this niche product work in the current market, or at least work well enough to make some passive income through it?

How far would you want this to go if you had it your way?

Usually, I aim to create mostly passive income so I can do what I want. I don't have a job. Every time I think of building a bigger, more scalable business, I lose interest. Getting rich isn't a major priority since I can live how I want without running a big business.

With this website, I'll see how it does during the holiday season and decide if I want to sell or not. It doesn't generate that much right now, but it also doesn't take up much time. I list like 3 products every few days, and when something sells, I print documents, package it, and drop it in the mailbox across the street. I spend less than 30 minutes running it most days. More effort would probably produce better results, but I'm giving my attention to other things, so this one will probably reach between $2k and $10k/mo and I'll be satisfied with that.

 

[Nomso8370]

1) He doesn't listen to news it's oversaturated.

2) He runs ads to find out what people want to buy, then runs ads to sell it.

2) He runs ads to find out what people want to buy, then runs ads to sell it.

Love it

 

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