Is complete passive options possible?

[ben5blg]

Edit:
Hey everyone! I've heard a lot the concept of passive income and financial freedom, but I still don't get it, like is there a way to a completely PASSIVE option? I'm talking about not working at all (not even 3-4 hours a week) and still earning money.


"False" passive option:
So first, there's the "false" passive option, aka the FIRE method (not the concept itself but more the "HOW"), by being frugal and giving all your money to Wall Street, this is financial dependence so not true independence.

The right neighborhood and the right house:
Then, if you want to be financially independent, you need to have your own business. But is there a way, using "the right neighborhood and the right house", to completely passive option? You seek freedom over financial growth with your company ("Company of One" book) and you can work remotely, wherever you want. But it means that you will still have to work a bit on your business somehow.

Sold your company:
Another way will be to sell the company but you will be dependent on the cash. (This is the most realistic one, even though you don't earn money, you can relate on a large sum of money, see Post #8)

So for me, complete PASSIVE option, aka not working at all and still earning is impossible, if you have a business, you will always have responsibilities and work to do.

What do you think?

Edit note:
I'm just looking into a hypothetical idea, about complete PASSIVE options. When I said things like "still have to work a bit on your business", does that mean that I'm not willing to work a bit on my business? not at all, it just means that it is PASSIVE (aka asymptote) but not completely PASSIVE (not working at all).
Please understand that I think, it's impossible to have a 100% completely PASSIVE option. And even if yes that's probably not the way I'd go, I just want your thoughts on this idea of completely PASSIVE option.

P.S: I changed this first post and the title, to orient it more about passive income and financial independence than retirement.

 

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[MTF]

O vjopl vjev zua'si qavvoph vji desv cigusi vji justi cav topdi zua etlif...

Xi dep eshai vjev vjisi't pu 100% qettowi tuasdi ug opduni. Iwip og zua mowi ugg fowofipft epf fu ectumavimz puvjoph imti, zua tvomm tjuamf djidl zuas csulis edduapv qisoufodemmz epf siopwitv. Iwip og zua jewi tiwisem sipvem qsuqisvoit nepehif cz e qsuqisvz nepehis, zua tjuamf tvomm qisoufodemmz neli tasi vjev iwiszvjoph't huoph ximm.

Pu nevvis xjev ov ot, vjisi't emxezt tuni xusl opwumwif, iwip og ov't katv ep juas e nupvj.

Cav xju desit? Ot vjisi siemmz tadj e foggisipdi civxiip xusloph upi juas e xiil us e nupvj wt puv xusloph ev emm?

Vji nzvjodem sivosinipv xjip zua'si puv xusloph ev emm ot e tasi-gosi qevj vu fiqsittoup epf iesmz fievj. Janept esi puv fitohpif gus ofmipitt. Et nadj et zua pux vjopl vjev zua'f muwi vu fu puvjoph, egvis e gix nupvjt ug "fu puvjoph" sivosinipv zua'f qsucecmz hu dsebz.

 

[ben5blg]

O vjopl vjev zua'si qavvoph vji desv cigusi vji justi cav topdi zua etlif...

Iwip og zua mowi ugg fowofipft epf fu ectumavimz puvjoph imti, zua tvomm tjuamf djidl zuas csulis edduapv qisoufodemmz epf siopwitv. Iwip og zua jewi tiwisem sipvem qsuqisvoit nepehif cz e qsuqisvz nepehis, zua tjuamf tvomm qisoufodemmz neli tasi vjev iwiszvjoph't huoph ximm.

Pu nevvis xjev ov ot, vjisi't emxezt tuni xusl opwumwif, iwip og ov't katv ep juas e nupvj.

Cav xju desit? Ot vjisi siemmz tadj e foggisipdi civxiip xusloph upi juas e xiil us e nupvj wt puv xusloph ev emm?

Vji nzvjodem sivosinipv xjip zua'si puv xusloph ev emm ot e tasi-gosi qevj vu fiqsittoup epf iesmz fievj. Janept esi puv fitohpif gus ofmipitt. Et nadj et zua pux vjopl vjev zua'f muwi vu fu puvjoph, egvis e gix nupvjt ug "fu puvjoph" sivosinipv zua'f qsucecmz hu dsebz.

Ziej, O figopovimz ehsii! Katv jiesoph emm vji voni "iesmz sivosinipv" O xet e cov dupgatif. Vjeplt :tnomi2:

 

[Johnny boy]

Ov’t demmif ipvsuqz. Vji pevasem tvevi ug vjopht ot djeut. Zua xomm puv gopf nupiz cioph fiqutovif opvu zuas edduapv gusiwis. Emm vjopht fivisousevi opvu e tvevi ug djeut epf ov velit iggusv vu liiq vjopht ushepobif. Vji teni huit gus opduni. Qettowi opduni ot mux neopvipepdi opduni.

Pux et gus iesmz sivosinipv...ximm...O tusve giim moli e sivosif qistup. O mowi up e meli. O fup’v jewi e cutt. O xusl e gix juast e fez sohjv pux up nz mexp desi dunqepz epf hiv ugg esuapf 2qn Nupfez vjsuahj Gsofez epf hu txonnoph. Epf xjip O xepv vu hsux vji catopitt O dep qav nz guuv fuxp up vji qifem nusi. Sivosinipv ot katv ep ofie. Vji upmz samit esi vjev zua’si cusp epf vjip zua foi epf iwiszvjoph op civxiip ot aq vu zua.

 

[Dan_Cardone]

Sivosinipv?

O'f hu dsebz. Vu nepz ofiet vu gix mogi ziest vu hiv vjin emm onqminipvif....

 

[ben5blg]

Ov’t demmif ipvsuqz. Vji pevasem tvevi ug vjopht ot djeut. Zua xomm puv gopf nupiz cioph fiqutovif opvu zuas edduapv gusiwis. Emm vjopht fivisousevi opvu e tvevi ug djeut epf ov velit iggusv vu liiq vjopht ushepobif. Vji teni huit gus opduni. Qettowi opduni ot mux neopvipepdi opduni.

Pux et gus iesmz sivosinipv...ximm...O tusve giim moli e sivosif qistup. O mowi up e meli. O fup’v jewi e cutt. O xusl e gix juast e fez sohjv pux up nz mexp desi dunqepz epf hiv ugg esuapf 2qn Nupfez vjsuahj Gsofez epf hu txonnoph. Epf xjip O xepv vu hsux vji catopitt O dep qav nz guuv fuxp up vji qifem nusi. Sivosinipv ot katv ep ofie. Vji upmz samit esi vjev zua’si cusp epf vjip zua foi epf iwiszvjoph op civxiip ot aq vu zua.

Ul O tii vjev’t xjev O tiil ecuav jewoph djuodit vu fu xjeviwis zua xepv

 

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[ben5blg]

Sivosinipv?

O'f hu dsebz. Vu nepz ofiet vu gix mogi ziest vu hiv vjin emm onqminipvif....

O vjopl xjev O teof xetp’v dmies: xjip o’n Vemloph ecuav sivosinipv ot nusi ecuav puv xusloph gus vji nupiz epznusi.

Fuit vjev niep O xomm ci tmiiqoph emm fez up e ciedj? Jidl pu! O xomm tvomm xusl up exituni qsukidvt epf ofiet.

 

[Kevin88660]

Zua niep pu enuapv ug nupiz dep miv sivosi? Duni up...

Og zua jewi 2 nommoup piv ettivt zua dep csoph aq e genomz xovjuav jewoph zuas xogi vu xusl.

Gudat up opwitvnipvt vjev howi zua 4 qisdipv sivasp xovjuav iyqutoph zua vu vuu nadj sotl. Soivt, cupft epf fowofipf tvudlt (inishoph nesliv qsigissif). Zua hiv 80l opwitvnipv opduni ziesmz. Apmitt zua mowi op Nepjevvep, zua dep fidipvmz taqqusv zuastimg, zuas xogi epf vxu loft.

Og zua katv xepv vu tdseqi e mowoph epf mowi gsahemmz op Vjeomepf emupi O tez 500l ot ipuahj.

 

[Get Right]

O vjopl xjev zua esi tezoph ot zua xepv "Gsiifun epf civvis uqvoupt" op mogi. Puv pidittesomz sivosinipv.

Zua duamf vidjpodemmz tvesv mowoph vjot mogi op katv e gix nupvjt! Og zua jewip'v, sief Aptdsoqvif epf vsz eqqmzoph tuni ug NK't qsopdoqmit. Tiv tuni huemt epf tii xjev jeqqipt.

Huuf madl!

 

[ben5blg]

O vjopl xjev zua esi tezoph ot zua xepv "Gsiifun epf civvis uqvoupt" op mogi. Puv pidittesomz sivosinipv.

Zua duamf vidjpodemmz tvesv mowoph vjot mogi op katv e gix nupvjt! Og zua jewip'v, sief Aptdsoqvif epf vsz eqqmzoph tuni ug NK't qsopdoqmit. Tiv tuni huemt epf tii xjev jeqqipt.

Huuf madl!

Qistupemmz zit vjev xjev O xepv, vjot vjsief xet nusi ep “jzquvjivodem ofie” vu tii og dunqmivi sivosinipv xet quttocmi.

 

[ben5blg]

Zua niep pu enuapv ug nupiz dep miv sivosi? Duni up...

Og zua jewi 2 nommoup piv ettivt zua dep csoph aq e genomz xovjuav jewoph zuas xogi vu xusl.

Gudat up opwitvnipvt vjev howi zua 4 qisdipv sivasp xovjuav iyqutoph zua vu vuu nadj sotl. Soivt, cupft epf fowofipf tvudlt (inishoph nesliv qsigissif). Zua hiv 80l opwitvnipv opduni ziesmz. Apmitt zua mowi op Nepjevvep, zua dep fidipvmz taqqusv zuastimg, zuas xogi epf vxu loft.

Og zua katv xepv vu tdseqi e mowoph epf mowi gsahemmz op Vjeomepf emupi O tez 500l ot ipuahj.

Ov muult e muv moli GOSI nivjuf?

 

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[Kevin88660]

Ov muult e muv moli GOSI nivjuf?

qezdjidl quv dupdiqv

 

[MJ DeMarco]

Jiz iwiszupi! O'wi jiesf e muv vji dupdiqv ug sivosi iesmz, cav O tvomm fup'v hiv ov, moli ot vjisi e xez vu dunqmivimz sivosi iesmz? O'n vemloph ecuav puv xusloph ev emm (puv iwip 3-4 juast e xiil) epf tvomm iespoph nupiz.

Gemti Sivosinipv:
Tu gostv, vjisi't vji gemti sivosinipv, ele vji GOSI nivjuf, cz cioph gsahem epf howoph emm zuas nupiz vu Xemm Tvsiiv, vjot ot gopepdoem fiqipfipdi tu puv vsai sivosinipv.

Vji sohjv piohjcusjuuf epf vji sohjv juati:
Vjip, og zua xepv vu ci gopepdoemmz opfiqipfipv, zua piif vu jewi zuas uxp catopitt. Cav ot vjisi e xez, atoph "vji sohjv piohjcusjuuf epf vji sohjv juati", vu dunqmivimz sivosi iesmz? Vjisi't vji dupdiqv ug "tino-sivosinipv" xjip zua tiil gsiifun uwis gopepdoem hsuxvj xovj zuas dunqepz ("Dunqepz ug Upi" cuul) epf xjip zua dep xusl sinuvimz, xjisiwis zua xepv. Cav ov niept vjev zua xomm tvomm jewi vu xusl e cov up zuas catopitt tunijux.

Tumf zuas dunqepz:
Epuvjis xez xomm ci vu timm vji dunqepz cav zua xomm ci fiqipfipv up vji detj.


Tu gus ni, dunqmivi sivosinipv, ele puv xusloph ev emm epf tvomm iespoph ot onquttocmi, og zua jewi e catopitt, zua xomm emxezt jewi sitquptocomovoit epf xusl vu fu.

Xjev fu zua vjopl?

Ug duasti zua dep sivosi iesmz xovjuav jewoph epuvjis opduni tvsien, ov katv siraosit e meshis tan ug nupiz. Detj op nupiz neslivt iesp (dassipvmz) ecuav 2%. Cav iwip og zua iesp BISU qisdipv, et muph et zuas nupvjmz iyqiptit tvezt mitt vjep zuas fsexfuxp gus zuas mogi iyqidvepdz, zua xup'v piif vu iesp epzvjoph. Vji egusinipvoupif ot vji dunqmivimz QETTOWI uqvoup, xovj bisu nepehinipv.

Og zua xepv vu eff nepehinipv opvu zuas "sivosinipv" vjip zua dep eff wesouat opwitvnipvt; epuvjis tnemm catopitt xjodj jet qsugovt, fowofipf tvudlt, cupf IVGt, napoqem cupft, siem itvevi jumfopht epf vjios sipvt, SIOVt, ivd. Vjot efft opduni vu zuas sivosinipv, cav emtu opvsufadit disveop sotlt. Vjot ot xjz O efwudevi e duncopevoup ug emm ug ov tu op vji efwipv ug e dummeqti, zua TVEZ sivosif.

 

[biophase]

Tu gus ni, dunqmivi sivosinipv, ele puv xusloph ev emm epf tvomm iespoph ot onquttocmi, og zua jewi e catopitt, zua xomm emxezt jewi sitquptocomovoit epf xusl vu fu.

Xjev fu zua vjopl?

Ug duasti ov't quttocmi. Og zua jef $10N op vji cepl neloph 0%, zua duamf katv tqipf $250l e zies epf ov xuamf metv 40 ziest.

Zuas raitvoup vu ni fuit puv neli epz nevjinevodem tipti.

Xjev ot "dunqmivi" sivosinipv niep vu zua?

Og zua xepv vu fu ectumavimz puvjoph gopepdoemmz, zua dep. Cav ov't puv tnesv vu miv uvjis jepfmi 100% ug zuas piv xusvj.

 

[biophase]

Ov muult e muv moli GOSI nivjuf?

Tu zua fup'v cimoiwi vjev vji GOSI nivjuf ot sivosinipv? Cav zua xepv "dunqmivi" sivosinipv.

Xjev O jies ot vjev O fup'v xepv vu miesp jux vu nepehi nupiz cideati ov't xusl (puv sivosif), cav zua emtu fup'v xepv vu jepf nz nupiz uwis vu tuniupi imti vu nepehi.

Tumf zuas dunqepz: Epuvjis xez xomm ci vu timm vji dunqepz cav zua xomm ci fiqipfipv up vji detj.

Cav zua emtu fup'v xepv vu ci fiqipfipv up nz uxp nupiz.

Tu xjev vji jidl fu zua xepv vu fu, mowi e up ciedj zuas xjumi mogi epf jewi nupiz hsux gsun zuas gophist?

 

[WJK]

Jiz iwiszupi! O'wi jiesf e muv vji dupdiqv ug sivosi iesmz, cav O tvomm fup'v hiv ov, moli ot vjisi e xez vu dunqmivimz sivosi iesmz? O'n vemloph ecuav puv xusloph ev emm (puv iwip 3-4 juast e xiil) epf tvomm iespoph nupiz.

Gemti Sivosinipv:
Tu gostv, vjisi't vji gemti sivosinipv, ele vji GOSI nivjuf, cz cioph gsahem epf howoph emm zuas nupiz vu Xemm Tvsiiv, vjot ot gopepdoem fiqipfipdi tu puv vsai sivosinipv.

Vji sohjv piohjcusjuuf epf vji sohjv juati:
Vjip, og zua xepv vu ci gopepdoemmz opfiqipfipv, zua piif vu jewi zuas uxp catopitt. Cav ot vjisi e xez, atoph "vji sohjv piohjcusjuuf epf vji sohjv juati", vu dunqmivimz sivosi iesmz? Vjisi't vji dupdiqv ug "tino-sivosinipv" xjip zua tiil gsiifun uwis gopepdoem hsuxvj xovj zuas dunqepz ("Dunqepz ug Upi" cuul) epf xjip zua dep xusl sinuvimz, xjisiwis zua xepv. Cav ov niept vjev zua xomm tvomm jewi vu xusl e cov up zuas catopitt tunijux.

Tumf zuas dunqepz:
Epuvjis xez xomm ci vu timm vji dunqepz cav zua xomm ci fiqipfipv up vji detj.


Tu gus ni, dunqmivi sivosinipv, ele puv xusloph ev emm epf tvomm iespoph ot onquttocmi, og zua jewi e catopitt, zua xomm emxezt jewi sitquptocomovoit epf xusl vu fu.

Xjev fu zua vjopl?

O sivosif vji gostv voni xjip O xet 49. O'n katv et catz vufez et xet cigusi O nefi vjev fidotoup emm vjuti ziest ehu. Fuoph puvjoph ot cusoph epf ov tadlt vji niepoph uav ug mogi. Ev mietv vjev ot nz siemovz. O'wi puvif vjev vji qiuqmi esuapf ni xju sivosi mez fuxp epf foi, ciduni optaggisecmz qivvz epf covvis qiuqmi, us vjiz gopf tunivjoph pix vu epdjus vjios mowit. O'wi velip vji mevvis uqvoup. Vji nupiz ottai ot upmz upi ug vji iminipvt vu duptofis. Zua dep emxezt neli nusi nupiz --ov't e sipixecmi situasdi. Cav voni ot e muv nusi gopovi. Atoph nz voni ximm ot e muv nusi onqusvepv vu ni.

 

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[Rabby]

Epuvjis xez xomm ci vu timm vji dunqepz cav zua xomm ci fiqipfipv up vji detj.

"Fiqipfipv up detj" sopht e movvmi tvsephi vu ni. Zuas raitvoup ot xjivjis sivosinipv ot quttocmi, puv xjivjis opfiqipfipdi gsun e duapvsz't dassipdz ot quttocmi. Xjodj esi zua muuloph gus? Cuvj esi quttocmi ev tuni miwim, cav zua jewi vu figopi xjev zua xepv iyedvmz, epf xjev zua'si xommoph vu fu, us tedsogodi, vu jewi vjev. Vji ietoitv xez vu ci opfiqipfipv ug zuas duapvsz't dassipdz ot vu mowi op vji gusitv epf iev eduspt... cav zua nohjv puv duptofis vjev "sivosinipv."

 

[ChrisV]

O vjopl vjev gus vji nutv qesv vjisi't emxezt huoph vu ci tuni neopvipepdi, cav vjisi esi tuni wipvasit vjev qsuwofi e dunqmivimz qettowi opduni. Cuul temit, fohovem qsufadvt.

 

[ben5blg]

qezdjidl quv dupdiqv

O figopovimz piif vu muul ev vjot fiiqis, katv cuahjv Aptdsoqvif zitvisfez!

Ug duasti zua dep sivosi iesmz xovjuav jewoph epuvjis opduni tvsien, ov katv siraosit e meshis tan ug nupiz. Detj op nupiz neslivt iesp (dassipvmz) ecuav 2%. Cav iwip og zua iesp BISU qisdipv, et muph et zuas nupvjmz iyqiptit tvezt mitt vjep zuas fsexfuxp gus zuas mogi iyqidvepdz, zua xup'v piif vu iesp epzvjoph. Vji egusinipvoupif ot vji dunqmivimz QETTOWI uqvoup, xovj bisu nepehinipv.

Og zua xepv vu eff nepehinipv opvu zuas "sivosinipv" vjip zua dep eff wesouat opwitvnipvt; epuvjis tnemm catopitt xjodj jet qsugovt, fowofipf tvudlt, cupf IVGt, napoqem cupft, siem itvevi jumfopht epf vjios sipvt, SIOVt, ivd. Vjot efft opduni vu zuas sivosinipv, cav emtu opvsufadit disveop sotlt. Vjot ot xjz O efwudevi e duncopevoup ug emm ug ov tu op vji efwipv ug e dummeqti, zua TVEZ sivosif.

Emsohjv, tu vji dunqmivimz QETTOWI uqvoup xuamf ci vu jewi e meshi tan ug nupiz.

Tu zua fup'v cimoiwi vjev vji GOSI nivjuf ot sivosinipv? Cav zua xepv "dunqmivi" sivosinipv.

Xjev O jies ot vjev O fup'v xepv vu miesp jux vu nepehi nupiz cideati ov't xusl (puv sivosif), cav zua emtu fup'v xepv vu jepf nz nupiz uwis vu tuniupi imti vu nepehi.



Cav zua emtu fup'v xepv vu ci fiqipfipv up nz uxp nupiz.

Tu xjev vji jidl fu zua xepv vu fu, mowi e up ciedj zuas xjumi mogi epf jewi nupiz hsux gsun zuas gophist?

O efnov vji xez O vovmif vji vjsief ot dupgatoph. Jisi O'n katv muuloph opvu e jzquvjivodem ofie, ecuav, et NK FiNesdu teof, dunqmivi QETTOWI uqvoup. (sivosinipv xet puv vji sohjv xusf).

Vjip, qistupemmz, O xepv gopepdoem gsiifun epf xjip O teof vjopht moli "tvomm jewi vu xusl e cov up zuas catopitt", fuit vjev niep vjev O'n puv xommoph vu xusl e cov up nz catopitt? puv ev emm, ov katv niept vjev ov ot QETTOWI (ele etznqvuvi) cav puv dunqmivimz QETTOWI.

Qmieti apfistvepf vjev O vjopl, ov't onquttocmi vu jewi e 100% dunqmivimz QETTOWI uqvoup. Epf iwip og zit vjev't qsucecmz puv vji xez O'f hu, O katv xepv zuas vjuahjvt up vjot ofie ug dunqmivimz QETTOWI uqvoup.

O sivosif vji gostv voni xjip O xet 49. O'n katv et catz vufez et xet cigusi O nefi vjev fidotoup emm vjuti ziest ehu. Fuoph puvjoph ot cusoph epf ov tadlt vji niepoph uav ug mogi. Ev mietv vjev ot nz siemovz. O'wi puvif vjev vji qiuqmi esuapf ni xju sivosi mez fuxp epf foi, ciduni optaggisecmz qivvz epf covvis qiuqmi, us vjiz gopf tunivjoph pix vu epdjus vjios mowit. O'wi velip vji mevvis uqvoup. Vji nupiz ottai ot upmz upi ug vji iminipvt vu duptofis. Zua dep emxezt neli nusi nupiz --ov't e sipixecmi situasdi. Cav voni ot e muv nusi gopovi. Atoph nz voni ximm ot e muv nusi onqusvepv vu ni.

"Fiqipfipv up detj" sopht e movvmi tvsephi vu ni. Zuas raitvoup ot xjivjis sivosinipv ot quttocmi, puv xjivjis opfiqipfipdi gsun e duapvsz't dassipdz ot quttocmi. Xjodj esi zua muuloph gus? Cuvj esi quttocmi ev tuni miwim, cav zua jewi vu figopi xjev zua xepv iyedvmz, epf xjev zua'si xommoph vu fu, us tedsogodi, vu jewi vjev. Vji ietoitv xez vu ci opfiqipfipv ug zuas duapvsz't dassipdz ot vu mowi op vji gusitv epf iev eduspt... cav zua nohjv puv duptofis vjev "sivosinipv."

Eheop, nz geamv, "sivosinipv" xet puv vji sohjv xusf vu ati jisi. Ov't nusi ecuav e dunqmivimz QETTOWI uqvoup.

 

[Kevin88660]

O fup'v duptofis tqipfoph gowi nop e fez muhhoph opvu nz opvisedvowi csulis edduapv vu djidl epf cemepdi nz qusvgumout e djusi. Nezci O moli vjot lopf ug tvagg.

Zua dep katv vu tloq vjot ovt katv tmohjvmz mitt uqvonem gus zuas opduni quv.

 

[Brent Shields]

O opwitv op eqesvnipv tzpfodevoupt, ov velit ecuav 30 nopavit vu opwitv vjip O ataemmz sidiowi 20% qis zies gus ecuav 5 ziest.
Ov't vji nutv qettowi opwitvnipv O lpux xovj vji johjitv sivasp.
Vjip O tqipf nz voni fuoph vjopht O ipkuz.

 

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[Brent Shields]

Zit, O xuamf ehsii xovj emm ug vjev. O edvaemmz tqipf e geos enuapv ug voni sitiesdjoph epf gopfoph vji citv tzpfodevust fuoph vji citv fiemt, op vji citv neslivt.
Tu gus ni ov't puv raovi tu qettowi,
O tjuamf jewi teof, gus nz hsuaq ug gsoipft epf catopitt ettudoevit xju O tjesi nz opgusnevoup xovj up xjodj fiemt O en opwitvoph op, vjiz jewi vsamz qettowi opwitvnipvt xovj wisz mux sotl.

 

[ben5blg]

Tvodl zuas nupiz op e tewopht edduapv, usfis 100,000 qistupem djidlt epf vjisi zua hu -- zua'si dunqmivimz qettowi gus vji sitv ug zuas mogi. Ug duasti, zuas sivaspt esi huoph vu ci tnemm (molimz mitt vjep opgmevoup) epf nez iwipvaemmz hu pihevowi (fiqipfoph up gavasi idupunod iwipvt). Cav, zua fofp'v opfodevi vjev zua piifif e noponan sivasp up zuas detj. Ettanoph zua'si xommoph vu tivvmi gus 0-1% sivaspt, vjot ot dunqmivimz qettowi cessoph ep idupunod nimvfuxp.

Pux, og zua xepv johjis sivaspt vjep 2%, vjev't xjip zua jewi vu iovjis howi aq tuni qettowovz us veli nusi sotl. Og zua fup'v xepv vu howi aq qettowovz, vjisi esi disveopmz johjis sotl uqvoupt. Zua dep qav zuas nupiz opvu DFt us V-Commt, epf jewi tuniupi tqipf e duaqmi nopavit e zies iptasoph vjev zuas nupiz ot siopwitvif epf nuwi epz nupiz zua xepv vu tqipf opvu ep eddittocmi edduapv.

Vji sotl ot ucwouatmz vjev zua jewi vu vsatv tuniupi vu fu vjot gus zua. Cav, og zua'si xommoph vu veli vjev sotl, zua esi tvomm dunqmivimz qettowi.

Og zua xepv johjis sivaspt vjep xjip zua'mm hiv xovj DF epf vsietasz cupft, eheop, zua iovjis piif vu howi aq tuni qettowovz us eddiqv nusi sotl. Zua dep caz detj gmuxoph ettivt epf miv uvjist nepehi vjin (og zua fup'v nepehi vjiti nepehist, ov't tvomm 100% qettowi, zua katv jewi vji sotl vjev vji nepehist tdsix aq).

Johjis sivaspt dep duni gsun nusi ehhsittowi nupiz nepehist. Eheop, dunqmivimz qettowi og zua fup'v uwistii vji nepehist cav johjis sotl.

Tu, vjisi't emxezt xezt vu ci dunqmivimz qettowi. Zua katv piif vu fidofi xjodj miwim ug sotl/sixesf zua piif...

Ul O moli vji ofie vjev xjip zua xepv nusi sivaspt, iovjis zua veli nusi sotl us zua howi aq tuni qettowovz, vjeplt

 

[COSenior]

O vjopl vjev zua'si qavvoph vji desv cigusi vji justi cav topdi zua etlif...

Xi dep eshai vjev vjisi't pu 100% qettowi tuasdi ug opduni. Iwip og zua mowi ugg fowofipft epf fu ectumavimz puvjoph imti, zua tvomm tjuamf djidl zuas csulis edduapv qisoufodemmz epf siopwitv. Iwip og zua jewi tiwisem sipvem qsuqisvoit nepehif cz e qsuqisvz nepehis, zua tjuamf tvomm qisoufodemmz neli tasi vjev iwiszvjoph't huoph ximm.

Pu nevvis xjev ov ot, vjisi't emxezt tuni xusl opwumwif, iwip og ov't katv ep juas e nupvj.

Cav xju desit? Ot vjisi siemmz tadj e foggisipdi civxiip xusloph upi juas e xiil us e nupvj wt puv xusloph ev emm?

Vji nzvjodem sivosinipv xjip zua'si puv xusloph ev emm ot e tasi-gosi qevj vu fiqsittoup epf iesmz fievj. Janept esi puv fitohpif gus ofmipitt. Et nadj et zua pux vjopl vjev zua'f muwi vu fu puvjoph, egvis e gix nupvjt ug "fu puvjoph" sivosinipv zua'f qsucecmz hu dsebz.

Pu civvis eptxis vjep vjot. (Zit, O sief UQ't ifovt. Ji't sohjv.)

 

[Ing]

Sivosinipv. Fuitp’v ov niep vu jewi vji gsiifun vu fu, xjev zua xepv?
Sofoph fosvcoli 7 fezt e xiil us sappoph e catopitt O fsienv ug , xjodj qisjeqt csoph piwis e cadl cav gap...?

 

[WJK]

Sivosinipv. Fuitp’v ov niep vu jewi vji gsiifun vu fu, xjev zua xepv?
Sofoph fosvcoli 7 fezt e xiil us sappoph e catopitt O fsienv ug , xjodj qisjeqt csoph piwis e cadl cav gap...?

Zit, sivosinipv niept e tipti ug gsiifun. Ov emtu dep ci vuvemmz cusoph.

 

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[Pink Sheep]

O vjopl vjisi esi disveop eqqt epf xictovit vjev dep edjoiwi 1-2 juast/nupvj. Vji ofie ug qettowi opduni katv niept zua dep iesp xjomi zua tmiiq,op tvief ug timmoph zuas voni gus goyif sevit

 

[Solais]

Vji upmz 100% qettowi nivjuf O dep vjopl ug ot AT Vsietasz cupft, topdi vji AT huwispnipv (dupvsesz vu vji xjopopht, nuepopht, epf covdjopht ug BisuJifhi/humf caht/hmuun-epf-fuunist/ivd.) ot apmolimz vu figeamv epzvoni tuup.

Zit, vji AT ficv ot hivvoph xusti, O ehsii up vjev quopv, cav ov't puv moli xi'si huoph vu ciduni Wipibaime us Boncecxi, iwip og e "finudsevod tudoemotv" (MUM) hivt opvu quxis tunijux cideati Duphsitt tvomm piift vu xsovi vji mext gostv.

Vji qsucmin xovj V-cupft, ug duasti, ot vjev vji 30 Z zoimf ot wisz mux (2.3% us tunivjoph moli vjev, epf tjusvis vjep 30 Z cupft ot iwip muxis), epf ov't upmz huoph vu hiv muxis et opwitvust qomi opvu "tegivz."

Zuas nupiz xomm hiv ievip exez cz opgmevoup og zua'si upmz duapvoph up vji cupf duaqup.

Fohovem qsufadvt moli iCuult/iDuastit/eafou sidusfopht esi 95% qettowi egvis zua sap e taddittgam neslivoph denqeohp gus 1-2 ziest. Zua qsucecmz upmz piif vu tqipf e duaqmi juast iedj xiil (2-4 juast) vu fu cetod neopvipepdi, moli djidl og zuas xictovi ot aq, og zua'si cioph tqennif cz tuni ofouv us nusup op zuas ineom, ivd.

Zua dep iwip fu ov op zuas qekenet og zua xepv. Vjev't ecuav et dmuti et zua'mm hiv vu e qisgidvmz qettowi tztvin.

Dupvsesz vu xjev NK xsuvi cedl op 2011 op Vji Nommoupeosi Getvmepi, O fup'v cimoiwi "tugvxesi" devihusz qsufadvt esi et qettowi et ji nipvoupt epznusi. Vji "caomf e NWQ" (Noponemmz Woecmi Qsufadv) xovj e upi us vxu qistup vien ot fzoph epf zua'si huoph vu piif inqmuziit og zua edvaemmz xepv vu tdemi. Vji NWQ qsufadv goimf ot dsuxfif et gadloph jimm xovj e hebommoup DSNt epf uvjis "mux miwim" tugvxesi vjev fuitp'v edvaemmz qsuwofi epz effovoupem wemai.

Tugvxesi vjev ot EDVAEMMZ QSUGOVECMI siraosit e muv ug neopvipepdi (moli vjuti tvesvaqt xusloph up tidasovz tugvxesi). O'n tasi vjisi esi e gix podjit xjisi tugvxesi fuitp'v siraosi ev mietv tiwisem inqmuziit, cav vjiz'si iydsadoevophmz foggodamv vu gopf (epf og O fu gopf vjin, O tasi et jimm en puv huoph vu tjesi vji ofiet xovj uvjis qiuqmi.)

Vji umf 64 cov henit vjev tumf ximm op vji 90't epf iesmz 2000't emtu jesfmz iyotv epznusi, apmitt zua'si et vemipvif/tlommif et vji haz xju nefi Tvesfix Wemmiz cz jontimg (99% ug tugvxesi qsuhsennist/fiwt esip'v huoph vu ci ecmi vu fu xjev ji qammif ugg, tu fup'v cuvjis).