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anyone else see the catch 22 of becoming a rapper or hip hop star?

you have to rap about being wealthy and having women around you constantly, but the only way to get those things is to have a successful song about having those things. do all of these guys starting out fake it until they make it?
 
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anyone else see the catch 22 of becoming a rapper or hip hop star?

you have to rap about being wealthy and having women around you constantly, but the only way to get those things is to have a successful song about having those things. do all of these guys starting out fake it until they make it?

Yea its pretty much a front until they actually make it.
 

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anyone else see the catch 22 of becoming a rapper or hip hop star?

you have to rap about being wealthy and having women around you constantly, but the only way to get those things is to have a successful song about having those things. do all of these guys starting out fake it until they make it?


Yes. The record companies that make their songs rent expensive cars and mansions to shoot their videos, and the rapper gets to pretend that they're living large for a few hours.
 

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Honestly I used to like that guy ... but after what he did to Rihanna .... he's a looser & a coward in my eyes. No matter what a woman has done, man should never touch us! Of course men are stronger .... but that's pathetic what he did ... really pathetic and I believe a lot of people hate him juss because of that.

Otherwise, yeah, he makes big $$$
 
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Yeah, I said it.. Do you feel offended?

Good, because I don't. Neither does the 40 other million people singing this lyric by Chris Brown - Look At Me Now. Out of all the years of hip hop I listen to; this one lyric really stuck out to me.

I think because most hip hop lyrics say "I'm rich" or "I made it" but this lyric really just says "you're mediocre, I'm rich.. bitch" "you're gonna be old and I'm young and got money" and I find it so funny and ironic people love it.. so I did some research to see if this lyric was valid.

Digging into some US Census Bureau: Including all the races and 25+, and of course taking out the super rich to prevent data skew: the average income is around the $35,000 range per year. So in ten years, they would make $350,000. No, let's say Chris Brown's net worth is easily $65M including his investments, assets, endorsements, etc. $65,000,000 divided by 365 calendar days = $178,000. Take that and multiply it by 2 days = $356,000. He is very darn close, lol...

Anyways, just had this thought in my head for awhile and wanted to release it to share with fastlaners..

According to Chris Brown Net Worth 2011 | Exploredia, Chris Brown is worth about $16 million. Where did you get $65 million from? (Genuinely asking - not being a smart a$$.)

Furthermore, you don't divide someone's net worth by 365 to calculate their daily income. The net worth is not annual income...it is net worth (assets minus liabilities). If your formula was even halfway accurate, Bill Gates and many others would be approaching trillionaire status by now.

Anyways, didn't mean to straight up call you out. For the record, the song is entertaining and I enjoy listening to it as well. But don't take the lyrics in rap songs too seriously.

And $16 million is still a fortune by most standards, so there's no debating on whether or not he is successful.
 

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According to Chris Brown Net Worth 2011 | Exploredia, Chris Brown is worth about $16 million.

Are you freakin' kidding me? LOL, you're going to take that Exploredia site of all the sites on the internet as credible? Lol. Where's the citation, where are they getting that figure? Explore that site, that site equals straight garbage.. LMAO, at least use Wikipedia or something...

I'm sorry to say, but he easily... easily MADE more than $16M since 2005, let alone his net worth. Between his features, movies, tours, endorsements, and lastly album sales.. easy.

It was more or less a figure of speech to compare what his money is compared to the people he talked about in his lyric..

but...

if you want to get real technical and speak just on terms of daily income, entertainers income are one of most fluctuating types out there.. depending on if they are on tour, album sales, time off, features, promotion time, movies, etc. I'm sure he has had a span of $356K in two days from doing two sell out major city performances back to back.

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At least quote Wikipedia, the site that anyone can edit?? Excellent logic.

Chris Brown Net Worth | Celebrity Net Worth says $22 million, Chris Brown Net Worth ‹ 2011 Celebrity Net Worth says $15 million. $16 is somewhere in the bubble.

My primary point, however, was that you don't divide someone's net worth by 365 to determine their income, regardless of what the number is.

I agree that he can probably make $350,000 in a couple days here and there, though probably not typical. Two sold out shows back-to-back can definitely make that happen, plus whatever else he has going on (investments, etc.) like you said.

Either way, I won't spend anymore time arguing about a celebrity's net worth that I don't particularly care about.

Just wanted to comment on something I thought was an error, and did not intend to strike the nerve that I apparently did.
 
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Hip hop has had a long history of braggin about financial wealth.

Diddy has said "so what if i don't write rhymes, I write checks" In response to other less known rappers ghost-writing his songs. Ironically that was ghost-written too.

It's good motivation. I don't even like Chris Brown that much, but I respect his success. I really can't say much until I achieve anything near what he has. I could also name so much songs that talk about the whole "what I make in a day" to what you make in your life comparison.

I want to get so successful that I can say my own rap lines

"they say I'm cocky and they probably right/
got a watch fulla ice/
my bank account looks like it hit the lottery twice/
and I aint ever had a job in my life/"

HAHA :)
 

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Chris Brown is a douche bag. He hasn't earned anything he has. He's no more of an artist than Justin Bieber and comes from the same vein. He's a pretty face that the music industry puts out there to schmooze his peers into putting him on some kind of pedestal. Yea he can dance. Yea he can sing. Yea his songs are mindless and lack soul. Yea he can beat women. None of these things make him great, they make him a tool for corporate music that is numbing the minds of and setting bad examples for people across the globe.

Having millions makes you rich, but it doesn't make you complete. Fulfillment comes from the soul not from a checking account. I hope Chris Brown makes ten years of my salary in two days so he can buy some depleted uranium bullets and blow his Jive record shilling brain all over MTV's VMA back drop.
 
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Lights, I think what you fail to realize is you need to separate money from morality. Dan Kennedy says it best in my opinion, so I'm going to write out part of a book that says it very nicely.

Dan Kennedy said:
Money moves based on nonjudgmental market forces, not morality. The difficult truth is that being a good person, being a better person, does not automatically entitle you to wealth, nor does it do anything to directly strengthen your wealth attraction. If you think that you should be financially rewarded because you're honest, hard-working, and kind to old people and pets, you're in for a very disappointing life. If you think God should intervene with the lotto on your behalf because you volunteer at the soup kitchen, you'll wind up disliking God.

If you want to easily attract a lot of money, you have to come to grips with what money is and isn't, the very nature of money, the energy of money, and how money moves about from one home to another.

Money doesn't have a conscious. It's paper. That's all it is. It's just paper. It's not significantly different than the paper that's in your book. It's green, and it's got some kind of woven junk in it so that, theoretically, a person can't counterfeit. But it's just paper. It doesn't know if your priest or pornographer. Look, it's paper. That's all it is. Nothing less. It's just paper. It doesn't have a conscience. It doesn't know what you are, doesn't know what to do, and doesn't care, it just moves around. That's all.

If money or the movements of money functioned on conscious, there never could be an Enron. There couldn't have been a Jessie James. (There wouldn't have been a Bernie Madoff either). The money would stop before it got to them. It would put on the brakes. It would speak. It would say, “Wait a minute! You're doing something that we don't approve of! We're not coming into your hands.” The stuff would work like Matrix movie stuff: "Stop! Go back!" And you wouldn't be able to get it. Money doesn't do that.

It has a different definition of “fairness.” It moves to those who do things that are magnetic to it. If you put a powerful magnet on the tool bunch of good man or the tool bench of a bad man, metal fillings will still be drawn across the bench to the magnet. That's its fairness: simple, basic, primal cause and effect.

That doesn't mean you should be a pornographer. I'm not suggesting that. It doesn't mean you should run Enron. I'm not suggesting that. In fact, there are very right about arguments for honesty and integrity and for choosing to produce and market products and services that enrich and improve people's lives. What I'm suggesting is you got to get out of your head that by not doing "bad" things are and by doing things that are “good,” that alone attracts and multiplies. It doesn't. It may make your next life a better deal. You may be in a cool place and stead of a warm place. You may not come back as a tote. Whatever your belief system is about afterlife, it may have impact there. But here and now, there are cause and effect principles while instruction completely separated from virtue.
... page 26-27 of "No BS Wealth Attraction for Entrepreneurs" by Dan Kennedy

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Lastly, I like that Chris Brown song, and I like Skrillex too ;)
Hey Lights, I don't know if you have heard this Skrillex song?
La Roux - In For The Kill - Skrillex remix - YouTube I love that one
 

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Haha, miscer detected.

Let me chime in tho. When people sing songs like this, they put themselves in the artist's shoes and dream about being able to one day live that life. They don't take it as an insult to themselves but to their own haters.
 

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Lights, I think what you fail to realize is you need to separate money from morality. Dan Kennedy says it best in my opinion, so I'm going to write out part of a book that says it very nicely.


... page 26-27 of "No BS Wealth Attraction for Entrepreneurs" by Dan Kennedy

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Lastly, I like that Chris Brown song, and I like Skrillex too ;)
Hey Lights, I don't know if you have heard this Skrillex song?
La Roux - In For The Kill - Skrillex remix - YouTube I love that one

Cool... I don't care what Chris Brown does as much anymore. I was just like "eh whatever about him then" He's irrelevant as much as Justin Timberlake these days.

But immorality rocks! Take everyone to hell! Muahahaha
 
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Light is... weird.
I have read a few posts from her and ... uhm! some people!
 

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Chris Brown is a douche bag. He hasn't earned anything he has. He's no more of an artist than Justin Bieber and comes from the same vein. He's a pretty face that the music industry puts out there to schmooze his peers into putting him on some kind of pedestal. Yea he can dance. Yea he can sing. Yea his songs are mindless and lack soul. Yea he can beat women. None of these things make him great, they make him a tool for corporate music that is numbing the minds of and setting bad examples for people across the globe.

Having millions makes you rich, but it doesn't make you complete. Fulfillment comes from the soul not from a checking account. I hope Chris Brown makes ten years of my salary in two days so he can buy some depleted uranium bullets and blow his Jive record shilling brain all over MTV's VMA back drop.

You have some major issues bro

Bieber and CB have unbelievable talent and work F*ckin hard. You have no idea. Bieber was already tryharding when he was under the age of 10, he wrote beautiful songs when he was a teenager.

Just become some big a$$ corporations that make more money of them than themselves help them with the distribution and advertisement, doesnt mean that the artists suck.

I have a strong feeling that they have worked harder than you ever have.

[HASHTAG]#StopTheHateOnSuccess[/HASHTAG]

And ohyeah Im no fanboy, just being real here
 

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I personally don't like Chris Brown, I suppose he's right.

But he's only one of the celebrities in the celeb world, and not everone can be a celebrity. I rather be me than Chris Brown though, he seems like he lacks intelligence. He's not that handsome to me. He's not bright, he's not handsome, and if he wasn't lucky enough to be a celebrity I doubt he would make it in life.

He just thank the record producers, and his fans for his wealth. So why is he singing those lyrics to his fans, who put him there in the first place? The fans are probably lower-income people anyways, since he's an African American and statistically the african americans are a poor race all together. His people are in poverty in Africa, and his family are probably poor-average income people before him.

So who is he really speaking too? What makes him superior. He's not. He's just an average guy with luck, and I can't look at those people as my inspiration. I will rather listen to Rihanna than him, since she respects her roots, and she knows where she came from. Jennifer Lopez in one lyric, "I'm still Jenny from the block, these rocks mean nothing" something like that in one lyric.

So whatever. He's just one person, and a person I could care less.
But he's still right in that one lyric, but is he the American success story. Not really, no.

When he dies, he may enjoy his wealth, buy people will always remember him as a woman-beater.

We need working people, and we shouldn't disgrace them. Working people is what makes this society work. Not all people can be entreprenuers, not all people can be wealthy, and not everyone is equal from birth to death. We should respect all people.

Look at Jenna Jameson, a porn-star, she's in the same category as Chris Brown. She makes 30 million a year and is now an entrepreneur, and is she that great? Would you respect her more than a working-class citizen raising a family and all, a working doctor or lawyer, a teacher... no, she's just a lucky porn star at the end of the day. Celebrities are not the people we should respect, but just enjoy what they produce. But they are not inspiring people, at least most of them... some of them are inspiring, such as Oprah, Madonna, and some more. But they are what they are, lucky. Even Oprah is lucky.

damn bro, you just can't give Chris Brown an ounce of credit?

lol
 
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so many player haters itt

smh

i thought we were better than this
 

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Quit crying about someone else income and worry about your own.

I don't really know him as I don't concern myself with celebrity/reality TV world but if he can earn that much money, fair play to him.
 

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Mention Chris Brown anywhere and see if the next 100 words out of people's mouths doesn't have to do with domestic abuse.

Back to work guys.
 

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You have some major issues bro

Bieber and CB have unbelievable talent and work F*ckin hard. You have no idea. Bieber was already tryharding when he was under the age of 10, he wrote beautiful songs when he was a teenager.

Just become some big a$$ corporations that make more money of them than themselves help them with the distribution and advertisement, doesnt mean that the artists suck.

I have a strong feeling that they have worked harder than you ever have.

[HASHTAG]#StopTheHateOnSuccess[/HASHTAG]

And ohyeah Im no fanboy, just being real here
Seriously, let's resurrect a dead thread by responding to someone that only posted one time and hasn't visited the forum in over 4 years.
 

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Seriously, let's resurrect a dead thread by responding to someone that only posted one time and hasn't visited the forum in over 4 years.

So can you explain again why you replied to this thread?



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So can you explain again why you replied to this thread?
It was in hopes that I cause you think before replying in dead threads to users that are no longer active. As has been suggested to you multiple times... read more and post less.
 
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It was in hopes that I cause you think before replying in dead threads to users that are no longer active. As has been suggested to you multiple times... read more and post less.

Great contribution, I think MJ should pay you for the great contributions, valuable things to learn from you.

You dumbass attack me for no reason. Go fck your wife if u are bored, dummy.


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Great contribution, I think MJ should pay you for the great contributions, valuable things to learn from you.

You dumbass attack me for no reason. Go fck your wife if u are bored, dummy.


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You sound like a 12 year old.
 
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Great contribution, I think MJ should pay you for the great contributions, valuable things to learn from you.

You dumbass attack me for no reason. Go fck your wife if u are bored, dummy.

Congrats, you just stamped your ticket out of here. Disrespect the mods who are here freely giving of their time and expertise and your stay here will be short lived. In your case, this should have been done last week and now I see not doing it then was a mistake.

Adios.
 

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