• The Entrepreneur Forum | Startups | Entrepreneurship | Starting a Business | Motivation | Success
  1. Join 40,000+ entrepreneurs
    who are kicking butt and
    winning their dream life.

    Unscripted™ Entrepreneurship:
    A Business That Pays More Than Money, It Pays Time.

    "Fastlane" is an entrepreneur discussion forum based on The Unscripted Entrepreneurial Framework (TUNEF) outlined in the two best-selling books by MJ DeMarco (The Millionaire Fastlane and UNSCRIPTED™). From multimillionaires to digital nomads, the forum features real entrepreneurs creating real businesses.

    Download (Unscripted) Download (Millionaire Fastlane)  Register
    Registering for the forum removes this block!

How to become a leader?

Discussion in 'The Unscripted Entrepreneurial Mind' started by JohnFuture, Oct 9, 2018.

  1. JohnFuture
    Offline

    JohnFuture Contributor

    Messages:
    19
    Likes Received:
    21
    Joined:
    Feb 4, 2018
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Europe
    Rep Bank:
    $142
    Hello guys,

    I have to admit this forum is very good in terms of theory (thanks in advance), but now I am at the present moment thinking that I actually need execution.

    I am working full time as a software engineer, reading books, listening podcasts about mindset and entrepreneurship, basically brainwashing my brain with the content that will help me to serve in the future many people.

    My question is how do I become a leader, not just a leader but a person who could lead people?
    I am about to start toastmasters, because I know how important is to be on the front of the people.

    Don't get me wrong I don't want to be the leader who points people what to do but to show and work with the team together. How can I improve leadership skills, what actions or opportunities should I do? I feel that I need more confidence in this area since I know this will be the most and difficult job ever. For successful business in the future, I do need this skill.

    Any thoughts?
     
  2. MTEE1985
    Online

    MTEE1985 Gold Contributor Read Millionaire Fastlane I've Read UNSCRIPTED FASTLANE INSIDER Speedway Pass

    Messages:
    374
    Likes Received:
    1,008
    Joined:
    Jun 12, 2018
    Gender:
    Male
    Rep Bank:
    $2,718
    It is absolutely one of, if not THE most important skill you can develop. Can you clarify why you feel you need it right now though? Are you currently working on a project where you are overseeing others or because it is in your future plans?

    There are some good books out there on the topic but ultimately, until you are put in a leadership role you can’t fully have the skill.

    @Kak Where did you start?
     
  3. Kak
    Offline

    Kak Capitalist Swine Read Millionaire Fastlane FASTLANE INSIDER Speedway Pass LEGENDARY CONTRIBUTOR Summit Attendee

    Messages:
    4,864
    Likes Received:
    16,569
    Joined:
    Jan 23, 2011
    Rep Bank:
    $28,076
    I wouldn’t consider myself some ‘amazing leader’ by any stretch of the word. I, like most of you, simply strive for ongoing improvement.

    @JohnFuture you have honed in on the most imprortant skill for building real enterprise. Nicely done. Anything can be done with the right leadership. Assembling the proper people, resources and capital around a project is our job as entrepreneurs.

    With that in mind, take that knowledge and begin applying it. Want to build a space hotel? Ok, get enough people to believe in it, fund it, build it, launch it, and book it. Practice makes you better.

    Books help, but they’re not going to make you a leader. Do.
     
    Last edited: Oct 30, 2018
  4. Raoul Duke
    Offline

    Raoul Duke The .45 longslide, with laser sighting. Read Millionaire Fastlane I've Read UNSCRIPTED FASTLANE INSIDER Speedway Pass Summit Attendee

    Messages:
    1,149
    Likes Received:
    3,980
    Joined:
    Feb 26, 2016
    Gender:
    Male
    Rep Bank:
    $4,045
  5. RayAndré
    Offline

    RayAndré Dare to differ. Read Millionaire Fastlane I've Read UNSCRIPTED FASTLANE INSIDER Speedway Pass Summit Attendee

    Messages:
    211
    Likes Received:
    410
    Joined:
    Oct 7, 2017
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Digital Nomad
    Rep Bank:
    $2,413
    Hi @JohnFuture!

    You've essentially described the last year of my life.

    "How do I go from a full-time IC programmer to an impactful fastlane leader?"

    If you're like me, then you're NOT leading even in tiny everyday situations. Ask yourself these questions:
    1. How decisive are you?
    2. When interacting with others, how often do you make a choice that affects the group?
    3. When in a conversation with others, how often do speak vs just sit and listen to their babble?
    4. When in a conversation, how easily/quickly do you end/leave the conversation once you realize you want to?
    These are just examples. Point being, lead yourself every minute of every day first. Baby steps :) It will become habit. It will build your future.

    "Extreme Ownership" as mentioned above is a GREAT book. Read it.

    I'm looking forward to your progress on this one, its something I'm working on myself.
     
  6. TylerH1994
    Offline

    TylerH1994 Bronze Contributor Read Millionaire Fastlane I've Read UNSCRIPTED FASTLANE INSIDER Speedway Pass

    Messages:
    96
    Likes Received:
    172
    Joined:
    Mar 16, 2017
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Wichita Kansas
    Rep Bank:
    $892
    The book Extreme Ownership is fantastic, I HIGHLY recommend it.

    And I promise, Jocko won't just try to talk like a hard a$$ the whole time. He talks about how the lessons he learned in the military transfer over to what he sees in everyday life, and all of them are applicable.

    Good share @Raoul Duke
     
    Raoul Duke likes this.
  7. lowtek
    Offline

    lowtek Platinum Contributor Read Millionaire Fastlane FASTLANE INSIDER Speedway Pass Summit Attendee

    Messages:
    1,159
    Likes Received:
    3,581
    Joined:
    Oct 3, 2015
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Phoenix, AZ
    Rep Bank:
    $23,978
    Took the .. errr.. characters right out from my fingertips.

    I firmly believe you are what you continually do. If you're a follower in your own personal social situations, then that's indicative of the mindset you have.

    To shift, start by leading in everything. Start the conversations, steer them (not forcefully, obviously), put forth suggestions for the group. Be decisive but not domineering.

    Another aspect that I didn't see mentioned is to develop your tendency to build up others. When you're at work, don't hesitate to talk up your teammates to others (assuming it's justified). It's quite rare that people will follow a leader that beats down the troops, so it's important to start building that characteristic.

    Another idea: be the one to jump on the grenade. If there's some task that the management brings up, be the first to volunteer, if you can get the job done. Become known as the person who gets stuff done, and this will help in your path to becoming a leader. Let's face it, nobody will follow the incompetent.

    Disclaimer: I wouldn't consider myself a strong leader, but these are the traits and actions of those that have inspired me to follow them.
     
  8. Stargazer
    Offline

    Stargazer Bronze Contributor Read Millionaire Fastlane I've Read UNSCRIPTED FASTLANE INSIDER Speedway Pass

    Messages:
    99
    Likes Received:
    177
    Joined:
    Mar 8, 2018
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    England
    Rep Bank:
    $1,043
    Join a competitive sports team and see if you end up Captain.

    Almost all Military Officers and FTSE 100 Directors played competitive sport at school and a big chunk at University too.

    Come to England and have a look at any private School. Sports Playing Fields is what you will see.

    Here's why.

    You learn confidence, focus, a passion to succeed, an ability to lead and inspire, an ability to view failure as feedback.

    You learn that winning requires a healthy attitude to risk, to silence doubts, to pick yourself up after a loss and that you cannot win alone.

    If you look at most successful people in any field you will see they were displaying characteristics relevant to their field at school.

    If you don't want to join any team sports join a club or society and apply to get on any committee.

    Dan
     
  9. JohnFuture
    Offline

    JohnFuture Contributor

    Messages:
    19
    Likes Received:
    21
    Joined:
    Feb 4, 2018
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Europe
    Rep Bank:
    $142
    I feel it because the earlier you will start the better you will be in the next years, in my case my business.
    I also feel now that I want to challenge my work, since during meetings I am not leading the meeting but others, perhaps not feeling so confident. What books could you suggest?
     
  10. JohnFuture
    Offline

    JohnFuture Contributor

    Messages:
    19
    Likes Received:
    21
    Joined:
    Feb 4, 2018
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Europe
    Rep Bank:
    $142
    Hey! Thanks for the tips, I do like the small baby steps, now I am paying more attention to things I say and how I do it. For your questions, do you tend to participate and lead conversations/meetings or listen only, or both?
     
    RayAndré likes this.
  11. JohnFuture
    Offline

    JohnFuture Contributor

    Messages:
    19
    Likes Received:
    21
    Joined:
    Feb 4, 2018
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Europe
    Rep Bank:
    $142
    Thanks for the tips!
    I used to play ice hockey as a goalkeeper. I could confidently be in front of people on the ice rink, I did more shouting than being a leader, however, I liked to take shots on me and I knew that I am the one who takes the last shot. Once I am in the room full of people, I become so small, so I can't make things happen. I believe it's down to self-esteem and confidence. I am doing now just gym, I feel that I have to get back to the team sport where I can be in a team with others.
     
  12. RayAndré
    Offline

    RayAndré Dare to differ. Read Millionaire Fastlane I've Read UNSCRIPTED FASTLANE INSIDER Speedway Pass Summit Attendee

    Messages:
    211
    Likes Received:
    410
    Joined:
    Oct 7, 2017
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Digital Nomad
    Rep Bank:
    $2,413
    I used to just listen. I didn't care where the conversation went. I didn't have a reason, a why, for even being involved in the conversation.

    My thoughts as to why I am this way is a whole different story having to do with the family environment I was raised in.

    But that's the past, and if I stay that way its by choice.

    I choose to improve.

    The other day I was in an apartment-complex jacuzzi, chatting with an older guy who just moved here. Well, I realized it was more like was listening to the older guy. He clearly liked talking and was just chatting away. I thought to myself, "Am I really just going to sit here and let this guy talk my ear off?"
    No!
    So what do I do? I could 1) leave, or 2) engage/steer the conversation myself. At that point I started talking more, asking questions, and contributing my own stories. One thing I realize is you sometimes have to interrupt the other person to do this! You speaking means they're not speaking. You have to accept this and believe your voice is just as (if not more) important than the other person's. Same with your ideas and opinions.

    That's one small example. My tone and approach with coworkers and project managers at work has also changed. It can be hard to force yourself to start 1) knowing what you want, and 2) taking ownership of making it happen on such a small level like a conversation or meeting.

    But it will be worth it. That's for sure.
     
  13. Kung Fu Steve
    Offline

    Kung Fu Steve Platinum Contributor Speedway Pass Summit Attendee

    Messages:
    1,949
    Likes Received:
    3,572
    Joined:
    Jul 8, 2008
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Road Warrior
    Rep Bank:
    $25,105
    To influence others you must first learn how to influence yourself.

    To influence yourself, you'll need to understand your needs, your values, your rules, and your beliefs (The driving forces in your own psyche).

    Once you understand those you can start to identify other peoples' needs, values, rules, and beliefs.

    Then you can start to influence people they way THEY would be influenced... not how you think they should be influenced.

    Level 1 is influencing yourself
    Level 2 is influencing one on one
    Level 3 is influencing groups of people
    Level 4 is global influence -- meaning -- creating environments where people are naturally influenced

    Many tactics and skills and platitudes such as "lead by example" or "be the change you wish to see" but there's a lot of truth to those.
     
    SoftStone, csalvato, Daniel A and 5 others like this.
  14. Fox
    Online

    Fox Moderator Staff Member Read Millionaire Fastlane I've Read UNSCRIPTED FASTLANE INSIDER Speedway Pass LEGENDARY CONTRIBUTOR

    Messages:
    1,661
    Likes Received:
    11,869
    Joined:
    Aug 19, 2015
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Mexico
    Rep Bank:
    $72,577
    Take action and openly share your results.

    People respect those who do the things they are scared to do.
    And they follow those who share these journey with these actions along with the processes, failures, and successes.

    Everyone on this forum with influence...
    - takes huge action
    - shares that action (or you wouldn't even know about it)
    - openly discusses both failure and success (different between a leader and someone trying to sell you X)
    - they give back and have a heart

    So...
    - Pick the area you wish to lead in
    - Do the hard work others won't or are scared to do right now
    - Share that with others
    - Help those who are coming up behind you to have the same success
    = Leader
     
    Roz, Daniel A, Sheens and 3 others like this.
  15. Raoul Duke
    Offline

    Raoul Duke The .45 longslide, with laser sighting. Read Millionaire Fastlane I've Read UNSCRIPTED FASTLANE INSIDER Speedway Pass Summit Attendee

    Messages:
    1,149
    Likes Received:
    3,980
    Joined:
    Feb 26, 2016
    Gender:
    Male
    Rep Bank:
    $4,045
    How can I apply what I was able to do with my weight-loss? To business. Is it just sheer determination?

    EXECUTION - Master of My Own Fear
     
  16. Kung Fu Steve
    Offline

    Kung Fu Steve Platinum Contributor Speedway Pass Summit Attendee

    Messages:
    1,949
    Likes Received:
    3,572
    Joined:
    Jul 8, 2008
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Road Warrior
    Rep Bank:
    $25,105
    Can you clarify? What do you mean?
     
  17. Hijena1
    Offline

    Hijena1 Contributor Read Millionaire Fastlane I've Read UNSCRIPTED

    Messages:
    43
    Likes Received:
    44
    Joined:
    Oct 1, 2018
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Germany
    Rep Bank:
    $228
    @Kung Fu Steve How do I Identify other people's value,need,rules and beliefs if I dont know them so good, how to read between lines ?

    Can you apply that in everyday situations ?
     
    Kung Fu Steve likes this.
  18. Raoul Duke
    Offline

    Raoul Duke The .45 longslide, with laser sighting. Read Millionaire Fastlane I've Read UNSCRIPTED FASTLANE INSIDER Speedway Pass Summit Attendee

    Messages:
    1,149
    Likes Received:
    3,980
    Joined:
    Feb 26, 2016
    Gender:
    Male
    Rep Bank:
    $4,045
    I lost 110 lbs from Jan to Oct 2018. That isn't a small feat to accomplish. I want to identify how I did this and apply to other things. IE; business.
     
    Kung Fu Steve likes this.
  19. Kung Fu Steve
    Offline

    Kung Fu Steve Platinum Contributor Speedway Pass Summit Attendee

    Messages:
    1,949
    Likes Received:
    3,572
    Joined:
    Jul 8, 2008
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Road Warrior
    Rep Bank:
    $25,105
    That's a massive question (and a massive study of human psychology).

    But the right questions and listening to what's TRULY being said is the key.

    I have literally hundreds of these but you can really learn about what drives someone by asking things like...

    Who are you?
    Who are you not?
    Life is about...
    Life isn't about...
    Your most important beliefs are...
    Who are you at work?
    Who are you to the public?
    Who are you to yourself?
    How much is a long time? What's a short time?
    What's acceptable? Unacceptable?
    The past is...
    The present is...

    What's most important to you in life?
    What's the second more important thing?

    Would you rather have security or adventure?
    Would you rather be loved or be important?

    Questions like these are not only interesting (everyone will have a different answer) but you'll start to see who is more security driven versus variety. Who needs certainty and who needs excitement. Who wants to be unique and special and who wants to be a part of a team.

    Once you can understand and appreciate someone's world it is so much easier to influence someone. Leadership IS influence.

    There's that old saying I'm going to butcher:

    When that guy spoke, people were inspired...

    When he spoke, the people marched.
     
    SoftStone, Roz, Hijena1 and 2 others like this.
  20. Kung Fu Steve
    Offline

    Kung Fu Steve Platinum Contributor Speedway Pass Summit Attendee

    Messages:
    1,949
    Likes Received:
    3,572
    Joined:
    Jul 8, 2008
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Road Warrior
    Rep Bank:
    $25,105
    You tell us; why were you so successful? What did you do differently?
     
    Roz and MTEE1985 like this.
  21. The Abundant Man
    Online

    The Abundant Man Silver Contributor Read Millionaire Fastlane Speedway Pass

    Messages:
    866
    Likes Received:
    988
    Joined:
    Jul 3, 2018
    Gender:
    Male
    Rep Bank:
    $5,028
    Hitler was one of the greatest leaders of all time. Got an entire nation to do his bidding.
     
  22. MTEE1985
    Online

    MTEE1985 Gold Contributor Read Millionaire Fastlane I've Read UNSCRIPTED FASTLANE INSIDER Speedway Pass

    Messages:
    374
    Likes Received:
    1,008
    Joined:
    Jun 12, 2018
    Gender:
    Male
    Rep Bank:
    $2,718
    1) listen carefully to everything @Kung Fu Steve says

    2) figure out a way at work to start leading at something no matter how small, do a good job and it will snowball.

    I personally like Simon Sinek’s books and Jocko’s books mentioned above. Start with Extreme Ownership. Even though he is ex military he is not a hammer pounding nails kind of leader, he knows his sh*t. My favorite thing he says is that a great leader needs to have humility. When I was overseeing 25 guys at the country club I worked at I made it a point to give them credit for EVERYTHING good, and take the blame for EVERY complaint. It fostered an enormous amount of loyalty from my staff and made us all better.
     
    Roz and Kung Fu Steve like this.
  23. The Abundant Man
    Online

    The Abundant Man Silver Contributor Read Millionaire Fastlane Speedway Pass

    Messages:
    866
    Likes Received:
    988
    Joined:
    Jul 3, 2018
    Gender:
    Male
    Rep Bank:
    $5,028
    [​IMG]

    [​IMG]

    [​IMG]

    [​IMG]

    [​IMG]

    [​IMG]

    [​IMG]
     
    Bearcorp likes this.
  24. Bearcorp
    Online

    Bearcorp Bronze Contributor Read Millionaire Fastlane FASTLANE INSIDER Speedway Pass

    Messages:
    224
    Likes Received:
    350
    Joined:
    Jul 2, 2012
    Location:
    Australia
    Rep Bank:
    $1,451
    I just listened to this excellent podcast from Andy Frisella on leadership, well worth a listen


    The MFCEO Project by Andy Frisella | #100to0 on Apple Podcasts

    *It didn't link to the actual podcast for some reason but the heading is
    "LEADERSHIP: The dichotomy it takes to dominate ft. Jocko Willink"

    *** Apologies I didn't realise its already been mentioned in the thread! Well let me say a +1 to this podcast haha!
     
    Last edited: Oct 11, 2018
    MTEE1985 likes this.
  25. TheSilverSpoon
    Offline

    TheSilverSpoon Bronze Contributor FASTLANE INSIDER Speedway Pass Summit Attendee

    Messages:
    163
    Likes Received:
    486
    Joined:
    Nov 4, 2013
    Rep Bank:
    $2,563
    A few thoughts from another full time software guy. I've spent the past 6 months focusing real hard on team building and culture.

    1. Hire good people

    Seems obvious, but this one is easy mess up. Drive and ambition are more important than technical skills. A hunger to improve is golden. My last hire was a guy who was a bit green on the technical skills but has really picked things up quick. His communication is excellent, he brings up issues ahead of time, and he just wants to become the best developer he can be, as quickly as humanly possible. Those traits are invaluable to have.

    2. Know your sh*t

    Respect is important. It's a two way street. If you aren't impressed by what your people are doing, you f*cked up on #1. If your people think you are an idiot, then you probably shouldn't be leading them.

    This becomes even more important when interacting with people outside your direct line of report. Don't overstep. Know what you are talking about and be honest when you don't.

    3. Communicate well

    Everyone has a different way of communicating. Learn it. Speak their language. Figure out what is important to them and what makes their eyes glaze over.

    Tech people tend to be much more direct and literal. You'll have a much easier time laying out projects, requirements, etc to these people.

    Also, make sure everyone on the team knows what your vision is. We keep it simple - make the best software possible faster than anyone else can. This has worked well for us. It keeps product quality high, development costs low and taps into just enough of a competitive edge to keep things engaging.

    4. Let them grow

    Assuming this is for a software related leadership position - your goal should be to have your people be the best developers they can be. This means passing you in technical ability.

    Do everything you can to foster this. Buy them books. Show them reference materials and websites. Give direct feedback where you can see improvements can be made.

    Encourage them to take risks and try new things. Explore what went wrong when things blow up. Praise them appropriately when things go good.

    5. Drop your ego and get out of the way

    The ultimate goal is to have a self-directed team that does not require you any more. This means no more playing super hero and saving the day when things go sideways. No more being the only guy who knows how to work on an area.

    Drop the ego and do what is best for the team. Spread the knowledge and extricate yourself from as many things as possible. Rethink your position. You aren't leading the cavalry charge to war. You aren't playing tactical chess. You are bringing smart, driven people together and giving them the resources they need to do their best while simultaneously removing their obstacles. That's it.

    While simple, this involves trusting your team, which is hard. And, in turn, taking ownership for the inevitable failures that will happen as the team grows. You are 100% responsible for any mistakes made. Learn from them, but don't dwell on them.

    And finally, get out of the way. People take time to grow. Give both them and yourself time to learn and grow. Once things start to click, you will be amazed at how handsomely this stuff pays off.

    6. Read

    @csalvato has some incredibly good posts on team building. Start here. He knows his stuff and has been a huge factor in me getting to where I am today.

    Jocko's Extreme Ownership is a great one.

    Notes to a Software Team Leader is also great.

    And a classic, How to Win Friends and Influence People.
     
    csalvato likes this.

Join 1000s of entrepreneurs who are rewriting life's script and winning financial freedom.

---- ----

You must be a member to join the conversation.

Create Account

Join the community fast and easy!

REGISTER

Log In

Already have an account? Login here.

LOG IN

Share This Page