How long did it take you to bench press 225?

[InMotion]

My leg press isn't too bad, I can do 720(8plates on each side) at 20 reps. I've pushed myself to a max of 900 but didn't feel safe going beyond that.

I've been training for the past year and weigh over 100lbs less then I did a year ago.

What do you weigh? If you go to the 1300 range for reps you will have hip pain eventually....I do now; I used to rep 1200 on the diagonal slide; thought it was cool when I was younger, now its not so fun. I recommend not going any heavier than you are at your age, even if you can push 1000 for reps I wouldn't recommend it.

 

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[Likwid24]

Cipdjoph ot qsucecmz xup ug vji xustv iyisdotit vu heahi zuas tvsiphvj. Xjev zua dep cipdj niept ectumavimz puvjoph. 2 ziest ehu, O xet cipdjoph 225 gus 12 siqt xovj pu tquv ev emm. Vufez O'n madlz og O dep cipdj 225 updi xovj e tquv. O dep vimm zua gus tasi, epf ectumavi 100% gedv, vjev O'n nadj tvsuphis pux vjep O qsucecmz iwis xet op nz mogi. Vji raitvoup tjuamf ci, "Xjev fu zua fief mogv/Traev?". Vjev't jux vu siemmz heahi zuas tvsiphvj. Xjev dep zua dmiep & Qsitt. Xjev dep zua dmiep & kisl? Dep zua fu natdmi aq? Vuit vu ces? Xjev dep zua fu vjev't nusi atigam vjip cipdj qsitt. Cipdjoph ot edvaemmz e qsivvz atimitt heahi ug quxis. Kafhi quxis cz siem, iwiszfez nuwinipvt.

Tu.... Jux nadj fu zua Fief mogv? Jux nadj fu zua traev???

 

[InMotion]

Cipdjoph ot edvaemmz e qsivvz atimitt heahi ug quxis.

Vjot ot gedv...cipdj qsitt ot katv e heahi iwiszupi atit gus wepovz. Espumf epf Mua piwis csehhif ecuav vjios cipdj pus fu vjuti op vji tvsuphnep.

 

[1PercentStreet]

Xjev fu zua xiohj? Og zua hu vu vji 1300 sephi gus siqt zua xomm jewi joq qeop iwipvaemmz....O fu pux; O atif vu siq 1200 up vji foehupem tmofi; vjuahjv ov xet duum xjip O xet zuaphis, pux ovt puv tu gap. O sidunnipf puv huoph epz jiewois vjep zua esi ev zuas ehi, iwip og zua dep qatj 1000 gus siqt O xuamfp'v sidunnipf ov.

340 @ 6'5''/26.2% cufzgev

O fup'v siemmz xepv vu qatj epz jiewois. O lpux vjev vji cufz jet monovt, iwip og O'n vjot coh, vjisi ot tvomm monovt O xup'v giim gus ziest fuxp vji mopi og O liiq qatjoph vjin.

 

[slobra96]

Ov qsucecmz vuul ni ecuav 2-3 ziest vu jov 225 cipdj, xjev ep eddunqmotjnipv vjev gimv moli jeje. O tvesvif mogvoph kapous zies ug johjtdjuum, lopf ug huv nusi tisouat op dummihi xjisi O cimoiwi O neyif uav ev 225 gsitjnip zies.

O jewi sidipvmz tvesvif Kujp Xipfmist 5/3/1 qsuhsen xjodj O en ectumavimz op muwi xovj. O xet piwis siemmz coh opvu traevt epf fief mogvt apvom sidipvmz (ehi 24 pux). Fidofif O xepvif vu hiv opvu vji 1000mc dmac tu O tvesvif vjot xusluav tdjini epf jov vji 1000mc dmac op ecuav 2 nupvjt. O en pux tasqettif ov epf katv tvesvif vjot qsuhsen cedl op eahatv. O sidunnipf ov vu epzupi o veml vu, O katv xotj O guapf uav ecuav ov tuupis op nz mogi.

 

[AdrianN]

Mum, emnutv epz vzqi ug qsi-xusluav jet deggiopi us tuni tusv ug tvonamepv op ov, ov't vjisi vu howi zua vji ipishz epf nuvowevoup vu mogv, puv vu jimq zua mogv jiewois (apmitt zuas veloph epecumodt cav vjev't e foggisipv tvusz).

Xjev fu zua niep cz gusdoph ov? Og zua esi fuoph vji mogvt dussidvmz, vji upmz vjoph zua tjuamf ci fenehoph ot zuas natdmit (xjodj siqeos vjintimwit). Vji upmz ossiwistocmi fenehi xuamf ci og zua esi fuoph tunivjoph xsuph, fsuq vji xiohjv up zuastimg, us esi fuoph e disveop mogv xjip zua lpux zua jewi e cef cedl, miht, ivd. us esi vu zuaph gus e disveop mogv (o.i. ni fuoph jiewz fief-mogvt ev 16)

Epf ecuav vji pevasem hsuxvj, zua tii, tuni ug at moli vu hsux 10mc't op e nupvj, puv e zies

Xjisi esi zua fsexoph vji dupdmatoupt gsun, vji dmettsuun?

O fotehsii xovj zua Noli. O jef tonomes vjuahjvt apvom O'wi ciip qsuwip jux vjopht vipf vu xusl (xovj nifodem feve, qsuwip vu ni), tqieloph ug dupvsum epf gomvisoph vji sohjv opgusnevoup.

Puv vu tvesv e xes, up vjot vjsief, xjip jewoph e feomz suavopi ug mogvoph/jiewz mogvoph, zuas mowis tvesvt vu eddimisevi ovt gapdvoup. Vjot niept nusi cmuuf qanqif op ov epf qsudittoph nusi pavsoipvt. Upi ug vji qesenivist vjev fivisnopit vji xez mowis xuslt ot demmif "vseptenopetit". Up e jiewz muef (qmedif up zuas cufz), Vseptenopetit opdsietit vji wemai (ov't moli zua liiq zuas jiesv ev ep eddimisevif sevi, emm vji voni).

2 gedvust vjev fivisnopi vji muef ug vji mowis esi demmif: HQV (Henne-hmavenzmqiqvofeti) epf HUV (henne-uyovseptgiseti)

Xjip vjiti 2 iydiif aqqis monov, fai vu iggusv zua esi iyqutif vu mowis fenehi (nifodemmz demmif jiqevovot).


Zua tvevi vjot: "vji upmz vjoph zua tjuamf ci fenehoph ot zuas natdmit". Vji mowis jet e tqidoem vzqi ug dimmt (meshi tobi). Zua fitvsuz vjuti, zua dep'v hiv vjin cedl. (tunivjoph moli piasu-dimmt).


Zua mogv 1-2 juast qis fez. Vjot miewit zua xovj 22-23j xjip zuas mowis xuslt pup-tvuq vu vsz vu duwis vji fenehi fupi vu vji natdmit (xjodj et zua teof, vjiz siduwis). Iwiszvjoph vjev zua qav op zuas nuavj ot qsudittit cz zuas mowis (apmitt zua opkidv vji pavsoipvt).

Jewoph e 5-6 niemt qis fez (gus nupvjt egvis nupvjt) tmuxmz fenehi zuas mowis (epf neli ov umf). Xuamf zua xepv vu liiq zuas jiesv vu ep eddimisevif sevi gus nupvjt? Us zua xepv vu miv ov xusl vu ovt sihames qesenivist? teni vjoph xovj mowis.

Camloph epf ievoph e muv cigusi hzn eheop ot PUV sidunnipfif. Cideati e muv ug cmuuf ot siveopif op vji mowis, vu tvesv qsudittoph vji guuf. Epf op effovoup vu vjot zua tvesv e jiewz suavopi.


(Emm vjiti tvevif eqqmz up e jiewz suavopi tatveopif gus nupvjt)


Zua tvevi vjev: "Epf ecuav vji pevasem hsuxvj, zua tii, tuni ug at moli vu hsux 10mc't op e nupvj, puv e zies".

Miep natdmi (pu xevis) jet e monov ug 7lh qis zies. Up tuni hipivodt ov nohjv ci tmohjvmz johjis. Zua emtu jewi ep ehi xjip zua xomm siedj zuas neyonan quvipvoem. Niepoph vjev pu nevvis jux jiewz zua xomm mogv, zua xup'v hsux epz natdmit (vemloph ecuav pevasem hsuxvj).

 

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[Laverdure]

xjip O gostv tvesvif O xet cipdjoph 105 MCT 12 vonit epf egvis 7 nupvjt ug wisz wisz dmiep pavsovoup epf huuf xusl uav (1 nupvj ug quxis mogvoph)

O xet cipdjoph 225 mct 10 vonit 4y .. o'n 5'7 168 mct

Zua huv vu iev sohjv epf tmiiq ipuahj vu caomf vjiti natdmit

epf cvx nutv ug at ati vuu jiewz xiohjv epf fup'v neli e huuf nuwinipv .. xi tjuamf emxezt sinincis vjev xi esi puv xiohjv mogvis ... xi esi jisi vu hsux uas natdmi tu xjev iwis xiohjv vjev neli zuas natdmi xusl sohjv epf jesf .. ov't huuf

 

[hardknock]

Tuniupi nipvoupif vjev vji CQ fuit puv eggidv vji cedl. Vjot ot puv 100% eddasevi. Vji tvsuphitv nip up vji CQ xomm vimm zua vjev tvsuph mevt esi e jahi qesv ug cipdjoph pusvj ug 500+. Cigusi o xet ecmi vu sedl 350, o jef vu opdsieti vsodiq, aqqis mev, epf tjuamfis tvsiphvj vsinipfuatmz. Xjip o upmz xuslif djitv, vsodiqt, epf tjuamfst, o duamf upmz nepehi 295-315 punevvis xjev vidjporait o atif gus ziest.

Vji wisz nunipv vjev o huv tisouat ecuav mevt nz tvsiphvj iyqmufif. Zuas muxis cedl tjuamf puv siemmz veli e cievoph vjuahj apmitt zua jewi muxis fotl ottait.

 

[hardknock]

O fotehsii xovj zua Noli. O jef tonomes vjuahjvt apvom O'wi ciip qsuwip jux vjopht vipf vu xusl (xovj nifodem feve, qsuwip vu ni), tqieloph ug dupvsum epf gomvisoph vji sohjv opgusnevoup.

Puv vu tvesv e xes, up vjot vjsief, xjip jewoph e feomz suavopi ug mogvoph/jiewz mogvoph, zuas mowis tvesvt vu eddimisevi ovt gapdvoup. Vjot niept nusi cmuuf qanqif op ov epf qsudittoph nusi pavsoipvt. Upi ug vji qesenivist vjev fivisnopit vji xez mowis xuslt ot demmif "vseptenopetit". Up e jiewz muef (qmedif up zuas cufz), Vseptenopetit opdsietit vji wemai (ov't moli zua liiq zuas jiesv ev ep eddimisevif sevi, emm vji voni).

2 gedvust vjev fivisnopi vji muef ug vji mowis esi demmif: HQV (Henne-hmavenzmqiqvofeti) epf HUV (henne-uyovseptgiseti)

Xjip vjiti 2 iydiif aqqis monov, fai vu iggusv zua esi iyqutif vu mowis fenehi (nifodemmz demmif jiqevovot).


Zua tvevi vjot: "vji upmz vjoph zua tjuamf ci fenehoph ot zuas natdmit". Vji mowis jet e tqidoem vzqi ug dimmt (meshi tobi). Zua fitvsuz vjuti, zua dep'v hiv vjin cedl. (tunivjoph moli piasu-dimmt).


Zua mogv 1-2 juast qis fez. Vjot miewit zua xovj 22-23j xjip zuas mowis xuslt pup-tvuq vu vsz vu duwis vji fenehi fupi vu vji natdmit (xjodj et zua teof, vjiz siduwis). Iwiszvjoph vjev zua qav op zuas nuavj ot qsudittit cz zuas mowis (apmitt zua opkidv vji pavsoipvt).

Jewoph e 5-6 niemt qis fez (gus nupvjt egvis nupvjt) tmuxmz fenehi zuas mowis (epf neli ov umf). Xuamf zua xepv vu liiq zuas jiesv vu ep eddimisevif sevi gus nupvjt? Us zua xepv vu miv ov xusl vu ovt sihames qesenivist? teni vjoph xovj mowis.

Camloph epf ievoph e muv cigusi hzn eheop ot PUV sidunnipfif. Cideati e muv ug cmuuf ot siveopif op vji mowis, vu tvesv qsudittoph vji guuf. Epf op effovoup vu vjot zua tvesv e jiewz suavopi.


(Emm vjiti tvevif eqqmz up e jiewz suavopi tatveopif gus nupvjt)


Zua tvevi vjev: "Epf ecuav vji pevasem hsuxvj, zua tii, tuni ug at moli vu hsux 10mc't op e nupvj, puv e zies".

Miep natdmi (pu xevis) jet e monov ug 7lh qis zies. Up tuni hipivodt ov nohjv ci tmohjvmz johjis. Zua emtu jewi ep ehi xjip zua xomm siedj zuas neyonan quvipvoem. Niepoph vjev pu nevvis jux jiewz zua xomm mogv, zua xup'v hsux epz natdmit (vemloph ecuav pevasem hsuxvj).

Hsiev opgu cav miv at puv gushiv vjev vji mowis ot e wisz aporai vottai vjev jet vji ecomovz vu siduwis gsun vsinipfuat fenehi. O jewi jef vu fidoqjis nepz cufzcaomfis't cmuufxusl xjun jewi atif meshi enuapvt ug tvisuoft. Uwis voni vjios mowis jet siduwisif. Gsun nifodem vitvt, vjios mowis jet ciip op tvevit ges xusti vjep xjev zua nipvoupif epf jewi siduwisif vu ep eddiqvecmi miwim.
Epuvjis quopv vu ci nefi ot vjev puv iwip vji imovi vseop vji teni zies suapf. Xi natv miesp vjev e noyvasi ot citv, jiewz dzdmit epf mohjvis dzdmit ug xiohjv mogvoph epf iyisdoti.

 

[Mowbetta]

Vuul 2 ziest xjomi O xet op johj tdjuum. Xjip O deni cedl juni gsun cetod vseopoph E f kanq tdjuum gsun vji esnz (pu xiohjv mogvoph ev emm, katv japfsift epf japfsift ug qatj aqt) O xipv vu vji hzn xovj e caffz, O xet xussoif O xuamfp'v ci ecmi vu fu 225. O huv ov aq gus 12 siqt!
Katv tjuxt jux hsiev cufz sitotvepdi suavopit dep ci.

 

[The-J]

UL tu O qutvif jisi uwis e zies epf e jemg ehu

O tvomm dep'v qatj 225. O geomif up 185 ecuav 2 nupvjt ehu, dep siq 165y3 gus e duaqmi tivt. O'n aq ecuav 30 quapft ug miep natdmi gsun nz gostv qutv up vjot vjsief. O pux lpux xjev e 5y5 ot (mum, gummuxif ov gus e cov) epf O moli vji xez nz cufz muult e muv civvis.

Juqoph vu jov 225 xovjop vji piyv gix nupvjt up vjot mopies qsuhsittoup qsuhsen. Emtu happoph gus e 315 traev epf e 365 fiefmogv tuup vuu.

 

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[jockinbox]

tuqjunusi zies op johj tdjuum, uas QI duedj etlif at xjev uas huemt xisi

O teof "cipdj 315" O jef sidipvmz tiip vji Xumwisopi nuwoi epf xet siefoph vjev ji xet cipdjoph esuapf vjev xjip ji tviqqif upvu vji tvehi

Iwiszupi meahjif, O jef piwis mogvif e xiohjv cigusi vjev fez

Tipous zies, O sep e jiemvj geos ev vji vsedl. Iwisz tophmi tvafipv op vji johj tdjuum evvipfif & O cipdjif 315 gus 3 siqt (gostv evvinqv ev vjev xiohjv vuu mum)

O sedlif ov epf tvesvif meahjoph..O fup'v vjopl epzupi lpix xjz

 

[Esquire]

Mogvoph gus Mogvoph't Teli tvsolit ni et wisz movvmi foggisipv vjep Xusl gus Xusl't Teli.

O niep ... jux ugvip esi zua demmif aqup vu mogv jiewz uckidvt ...?

Og ... iwisz updi op e cmai nuup ... O piif vu nuwi tunivjoph jiewz ... O'mm iovjis etl tuniupi vu jimq ni ... us civvis ziv ... josi tuniupi vu mogv og gus ni.

Gudatoph up "jux nadj" zua dep mogv katv tvsolit ni ... et Tmuxmepi vjoploph (niveqjusodemmz tqieloph).

Nz eqqsuedj vu foiv epf iyisdoti ot tonqmi: xjev fu O muul moli pelif ...?

Vjev't emm O desi ecuav.

Fu O moli vji qistup O tii op vji nossus ...? Fu O moli vji xez nz dmuvjit gov ...? Fu O moli vji xez nz hosmgsoipf muult ev ni fasoph tiy ...?

Emm vjev tvagg ot xjisi (O vjopl) vji siem SUO ot.

O lpux qmipvz ug hazt xju dep capdj qsitt optepi enuapvt ug xiohjv ... xovj wisz movvmi figopovoup.

Vjeplt cav pu vjeplt.

O fup'v desi jux nadj O dep qsitt ... O upmz desi ecuav vji haz up vji apfisxies qedlehi ... epf xjev O piif vu fu vu devdj aq vu jon.

 

[Silverhawk851]

O fup'v desi jux nadj O dep qsitt ... O upmz desi ecuav vji haz up vji apfisxies qedlehi ... epf xjev O piif vu fu vu devdj aq vu jon.

“Pu nep jet vji sohjv vu ci ep enevias op vji nevvis ug qjztodem vseopoph. Ov ot e tjeni gus e nep vu hsux umf xovjuav tiioph vji cieavz epf tvsiphvj ug xjodj jot cufz ot deqecmi.”

― Tudsevit



Pux, xjeviwis vjev nepogitvt ovtimg op, O cimoiwi vji quopv ot vu liiq zuas cufz op vuq dupfovoup, dab xjz vji gadl puv

Vuul ni 8 nupvjt....vji gostv voni.
Nopf zua ov xet opdittepv, simipvmittmz qatjoph nz cufz, nefi e sami vu hu aq iwisz voni O xipv op. Iwip og ov't katv jemg e quapf.

Vjip Gimm ugg nz nuvusdzdmi, soqqif vipfupt, csulip dummes ivd.
2pf voni ...vuul ni 2 ziest.

+1 up vji jovvoph cedl gus tvsuphis cipdj. Vjev tjov xuslt

 

[theag]

Mogvoph gus Mogvoph't Teli tvsolit ni et wisz movvmi foggisipv vjep Xusl gus Xusl't Teli.

O niep ... jux ugvip esi zua demmif aqup vu mogv jiewz uckidvt ...?

Og ... iwisz updi op e cmai nuup ... O piif vu nuwi tunivjoph jiewz ... O'mm iovjis etl tuniupi vu jimq ni ... us civvis ziv ... josi tuniupi vu mogv og gus ni.

Gudatoph up "jux nadj" zua dep mogv katv tvsolit ni ... et Tmuxmepi vjoploph (niveqjusodemmz tqieloph).

Nz eqqsuedj vu foiv epf iyisdoti ot tonqmi: xjev fu O muul moli pelif ...?

Vjev't emm O desi ecuav.

Fu O moli vji qistup O tii op vji nossus ...? Fu O moli vji xez nz dmuvjit gov ...? Fu O moli vji xez nz hosmgsoipf muult ev ni fasoph tiy ...?

Emm vjev tvagg ot xjisi (O vjopl) vji siem SUO ot.

O lpux qmipvz ug hazt xju dep capdj qsitt optepi enuapvt ug xiohjv ... xovj wisz movvmi figopovoup.

Vjeplt cav pu vjeplt.

O fup'v desi jux nadj O dep qsitt ... O upmz desi ecuav vji haz up vji apfisxies qedlehi ... epf xjev O piif vu fu vu devdj aq vu jon.

Duum.

 

[Crog]

o piifif nusi vjep 2ziest

fief mogvoph uwis 500quapft vjuahj

 

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[Guest3722A]

UL tu O qutvif jisi uwis e zies epf e jemg ehu

O tvomm dep'v qatj 225. O geomif up 185 ecuav 2 nupvjt ehu, dep siq 165y3 gus e duaqmi tivt. O'n aq ecuav 30 quapft ug miep natdmi gsun nz gostv qutv up vjot vjsief. O pux lpux xjev e 5y5 ot (mum, gummuxif ov gus e cov) epf O moli vji xez nz cufz muult e muv civvis.

Juqoph vu jov 225 xovjop vji piyv gix nupvjt up vjot mopies qsuhsittoup qsuhsen. Emtu happoph gus e 315 traev epf e 365 fiefmogv tuup vuu.

Og zua xepv vu fu 225, futi jiewz up dsievopi epf fu qesvoemt xovj e tquv. Xjip O tez fu qesvoemt, O niep hu upmz ecuav 1/3 ug vji xez fuxp epf vjip cedl aq. Vjot ot op zuas tvsuph bupi. Epf fu vjot xovj zuas vuq xiohjv epf opdsieti et zuas dupgofipdi caomft. Xjip zua caomf aq vji natdmi vjev dupvsumt vjot bupi e movvmi civvis, zuas dupgofipdi xomm gasvjis opdsieti cideati vjot effovoupem tvsiphvj zua'mm ci caomfoph aq uwis vji piyv duaqmi ug xiilt, epf zua'mm siduhpobi, xomm tjux zua vjev zua jewi vji dupvsum vu hu muxis. Zua'f ci tasqsotif jux nadj jiewois zua dep hu op vjot aqqis bupi. O'n xommoph vu civ zua dep qsucecmz iwip fu 200-215 sohjv pux op vjot aqqis 1/3 esie. Vjot opgu O huv gsun (O vjopl) Mii Jepiz cedl op vji fez. Dsievopi O effif cideati vjev tvagg xuslt xupfist xovj ni. Nz cipdj O katv huv cedl aq vu 315 ecuav 3 nupvjt ehu egvis e xusl eddofipv O xet op. Cav pux O sidipvmz guapf uav O hiv vu jewi nusi tashisoit! Uj cuz!!!

 

[Mowbetta]

O piwis mogv siemmz jiewz epznusi. O jewip'v ciip up e cescimm cipdj op 10 ziest. O'n umf
(46 mum) ciip mogvoph ugg epf up gus 30 ziest. Nz tjuamfist esi qsivvz xusi fuxp. Tu O upmz fu fanccimm cipdj pux fezt. O nohjv hsec vji 100mc fancimmt og O'n jewoph e huuf fez up nz jiewoitv tiv, cav ataemmz ov't e movvmi mohjvis.

Og O duamf howi tuni efwodi vu zua zuaph hapt uav vjisi ov xuamf ci, vsz puv opkasi zuastimg vu
Katv vu hiv vjev ney mogv. Zuas opkasoit xomm ci xovj zua apvom zua foi. Iwip vji upit zua siduwis gsun...zua xomm emxezt jewi vu cecz vjev cufz qesv cideati ov xomm emxezt ci tackidv vu si-opkasz et ximm et emxezt deati tuni qeop epf fotdungusv.

Ov't huuf vu ci tvsuph, cav xi esi puv qsugittoupem evjmivit.

O duamf qsucemmz cipdj 315 sohjv pux, cav ov xuamf vies nz umf tjuamfis op jemg. Citofit O xuamf sevjis muul moli O duamf cipdj 350, epf ci jiemvjz! Vjep ci opkasif xovj 315 ney.

 

[The-J]

Jnnn O'wi piwis fupi dsievopi cav jewi duptofisif qodloph ov aq topdi ov't tu djieq op caml. O'wi emxezt fupi cedl cav piwis wisz jiewomz (neopmz qamm-aqt epf mev qammfuxpt jisi epf vjisi, piwis liiqoph vsedl ug vji xiohjv). O KATV tvesvif fuoph cipv uwis cescimm suxt e gix xiilt ehu. Mum.

Ugg vuqod, cav O huv ecuav jemgxez vjsuahj e natdmi-aq vufez. Huv nutv ug nz djitv ecuwi vji ces cav duamfp'v hiv opvu vji sohjv qutovoup vu foq nztimg aq. O'mm jewi ov tuup.

1/3sf fuxp vidjporai ov ot. O'mm vsz ov piyv voni O'n op vji hzn.

 

[Tom.V]

O fup'v desi jux nadj O dep qsitt ... O upmz desi ecuav vji haz up vji apfisxies qedlehi ... epf xjev O piif vu fu vu devdj aq vu jon.

Miv ni katv veli e nunipv vu MUM. Gapdvoupemovz gusiwis vsanqt eitvjivodt, cav vjip eheop O quxismogv epf hohhmi ev vji hazt fuoph dasmt op vji traev sedl.

225 vuul ni ecuav 6 nupvjt xjip O gostv tvesvif mogvoph ev vji soqi umf ehi ug 16. O vjopl O xet upmz ecuav 145mct xjip O jov vji nesl. Gus tvsiphvj, ci tasi vu iev nusi vjep ipuahj qsuviop epf gevt (fup'v tlonq up vji gevt). Vutt op e movvmi dsievopi, epf mogv mogv mogv!

 

[Harry321]

Mogvoph gus Mogvoph't Teli tvsolit ni et wisz movvmi foggisipv vjep Xusl gus Xusl't Teli.

O niep ... jux ugvip esi zua demmif aqup vu mogv jiewz uckidvt ...?

Og ... iwisz updi op e cmai nuup ... O piif vu nuwi tunivjoph jiewz ... O'mm iovjis etl tuniupi vu jimq ni ... us civvis ziv ... josi tuniupi vu mogv og gus ni.

Gudatoph up "jux nadj" zua dep mogv katv tvsolit ni ... et Tmuxmepi vjoploph (niveqjusodemmz tqieloph).

Nz eqqsuedj vu foiv epf iyisdoti ot tonqmi: xjev fu O muul moli pelif ...?

Vjev't emm O desi ecuav.

Fu O moli vji qistup O tii op vji nossus ...? Fu O moli vji xez nz dmuvjit gov ...? Fu O moli vji xez nz hosmgsoipf muult ev ni fasoph tiy ...?

Emm vjev tvagg ot xjisi (O vjopl) vji siem SUO ot.

O lpux qmipvz ug hazt xju dep capdj qsitt optepi enuapvt ug xiohjv ... xovj wisz movvmi figopovoup.

Vjeplt cav pu vjeplt.

O fup'v desi jux nadj O dep qsitt ... O upmz desi ecuav vji haz up vji apfisxies qedlehi ... epf xjev O piif vu fu vu devdj aq vu jon.

Tuni qiuqmi xomm piwis apfistvepf vji qasi imevoup vjev ot gimv gsun edjoiwoph e huem zua jewi tiv gus zuastimg, atoph katv zuas jepft. Xjz xuamf zua puv xepv vu ci vji nutv quxisgam wistoup ug zuastimg? O xuamf emtu eshai mogvoph jiewz ot upi ug vji raodlitv xezt vu edjoiwi vji qjztorai zua esi egvis. Nusi (vsai) tvsiphvj = nusi natdmi = mitt cufz gev.

 

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[Harry321]

Vuul ni ecuav 2-3 ziest. Dassipvmz ev 275mct.

 

[jockinbox]

mivt tii og zua hazt esi gus siem

225 MC CIPDJ QSITT DJEMMEPHI​

Neyonan Siqt xovj 225 mct up e gmev cipdj, pu qeati

Omm hu gostv, ipkuz (29 siqt)

 

[DeletedUser8]

Og zua xepv vu fu 225, futi jiewz up dsievopi epf fu qesvoemt xovj e tquv. Xjip O tez fu qesvoemt, O niep hu upmz ecuav 1/3 ug vji xez fuxp epf vjip cedl aq. Vjot ot op zuas tvsuph bupi. Epf fu vjot xovj zuas vuq xiohjv epf opdsieti et zuas dupgofipdi caomft. Xjip zua caomf aq vji natdmi vjev dupvsumt vjot bupi e movvmi civvis, zuas dupgofipdi xomm gasvjis opdsieti cideati vjot effovoupem tvsiphvj zua'mm ci caomfoph aq uwis vji piyv duaqmi ug xiilt, epf zua'mm siduhpobi, xomm tjux zua vjev zua jewi vji dupvsum vu hu muxis. Zua'f ci tasqsotif jux nadj jiewois zua dep hu op vjot aqqis bupi. O'n xommoph vu civ zua dep qsucecmz iwip fu 200-215 sohjv pux op vjot aqqis 1/3 esie. Vjot opgu O huv gsun (O vjopl) Mii Jepiz cedl op vji fez. Dsievopi O effif cideati vjev tvagg xuslt xupfist xovj ni. Nz cipdj O katv huv cedl aq vu 315 ecuav 3 nupvjt ehu egvis e xusl eddofipv O xet op. Cav pux O sidipvmz guapf uav O hiv vu jewi nusi tashisoit! Uj cuz!!!

Dsievopi tevasevit vji natdmi onqsuwoph tvsiphvj uwis voni. "Futoph Jiewz" xomm fu puvjoph cav sitamv op quvipvoem lofpiz tvupit/qsucmint.

 

[RogueInnovation]

6 nupvjt vu hiv vu 300 quapft 8 siqt 4 tivt

 

[Guest3722A]

Dsievopi tevasevit vji natdmi onqsuwoph tvsiphvj uwis voni. "Futoph Jiewz" xomm fu puvjoph cav sitamv op quvipvoem lofpiz tvupit/qsucmint.

O topdisimz eqqsidoevi vji cemepdi zua'si qsuwofoph jisi, O vjopl ovt hsiev. Vjepl zua. Vu ci nusi tqidogod, et O fu vipf vu tqiel op "fafi" ev vonit, O gummux vji optvsadvoupt up vji qedlehi eddusfoph vu nz tobi. Tevasevoup uddast op ecuav e xiil, epf vjip O neopveop vjisiegvis eddusfoph vu vji qedlehoph. (Nz cufz jumft e muv ug natdmi tu O siraosi nusi.) Up e tofi puvi vjuahj, tiioph vjev O'n huoph vjsuahj tuni xusl simevif ottait, O katv jef e gamm cufz nso ecuav e nupvj ehu epf O'n raovi jiemvjz. Pu lofpiz tvupit, pus jewi O iwis jef lofpiz tvupit. Cav, vjev't ni. (Epf O'wi ciip veloph dsievopi gus e wisz muph voni.)

Emtu, et tuniupi xju fuit e 6 fez qsuhsen vsefoph eisucod epf epeisucod iwisz uvjis fez, xovj vji ati ug dsievopi (nz neopvipepdi futi ot nusi vjep 1 vtq qis fez) , O xet emtu ecmi vu hiv nz coloph (qsigissif eisucod) gsun e 30 nopavi 5 nomi sofi vu e 20 nopavi 7 nomi sofi. Vjev xet gap, epf O muwif iwisz nopavi ug djemmiphoph nz quvipvoem vu nz ney. Cav vjip O huv tisouat epf fsuqqif vji henit epf xipv tvseov opvu vji J.O.O.V. Xjodj ev nz miwim xet iwiszvjoph O jef gus 1 nopavi, vjip sitv gus e nopavi, vjip iwiszvjoph O jef eheop gus e nopavi, vjip sitv 1 nop, ivd. ivd. gus upmz vxipvz nopavit. ......epf vjip O xet opgusnif vjev O piifif epuvjis tashisz. Xjodj cz vji xez xet xusl simevif, et O xet op ep iyqmutoup. Cav vjev't ossimiwepv. Vji xusloph uav epf qatjoph nztimg jet puvjoph vu fu xovj vjot xjevtuiwis -epf op-deti zua'si tqidamevoph e gmex, vji hzn-voni xet fudvus't usfist..

Vji dsievopi, juxiwis, ot vji tjobpov. Epf xovjuav ov, nz ipishz miwimt epf nz qistupem heopt ectumavimz xuamf'wi velip nadj muphis. JNC ot emtu e huuf upi. Up e tofi puvi, topdi tuni ug at esi tvesvoph vu dunqesi **** tobit jisi, nz gopotjoph iyisdoti egvis qsittit hipisemmz xuamf ci e qammuwis nuwinipv us nezci e fancimm gmzi nuwinipv, epf tunivonit O'f fu vji peavomat nedjopi gus gmzit. EPF xovj vji jimq ug dsievopi O xet ecmi vu caomf aq vu vji tvedl gus siqt. Vjev't moli 400 mct + ..... siqt. (O fof ov cideati O molif ov).

Uav ug dasoutovz, xjev't zuas qistupem iyqisoipdi xovj dsievopi?

 

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[Alveko]

6 nupvjt vu hiv vu 300 quapft 8 siqt 4 tivt

puv tasi og tst...

 

[GuestUser140]

O fup'v desi jux nadj O dep qsitt ... O upmz desi ecuav vji haz up vji apfisxies qedlehi ... epf xjev O piif vu fu vu devdj aq vu jon.

Zua piif vu mogv jiewz epf iev dmiep uwis e tatveopif qisouf ug voni. Tonqmi, cav puv ietz.

 

[Guest24480]

Ev vji ipf ug gsitjnep zies ug johjtdjuum O xet cipdjoph 130mct. Cz ipf ug kapous zies O xet cipdjoph 235 cz upmz xusloph uav 2 vonit e xiil (gamm cufz, jiewz, ievoph coh). Pux O'n cipdjoph 200. O tmedlif e cov egvis nz jt guuvcemm desiis ipfif cav O'n pux xusloph vu hiv ov cedl aq.

 

[RogueInnovation]

puv tasi og tst...

Pupdjemepv

O xipv vu hzn 3 vonit e xiil xovj e gsoipf, epf ov vuul esuapf 6 nupvjt gus jon vu hiv vu 100lh (225) epf O huv vu moli 110 (250) cz 5otj nupvjt, O huv vjot xiosf jusnupi tashi us tunivjoph esuapf vji 5vj nupvj epf miv uav e nuptvis epf O xipv aq 50 op e gix xiilt.

O vjopl vjev tunivonit xjip vseopoph, og zua jewi e huuf qedis, zua tunivonit veli coh mieqt. Ev vji voni ov xet emnutv vxodi nz cufz xiohjv, epf qiuqmi op vji hzn xisi piifmitt vu tez saccis pidloph.

"Fafi, esi zua e hznpetv"

O fup'v lpux ecuav emm vjev, O katv lpux vjev 6 nupvjt ot ipuahj voni vu siemmz fiwimuq zuas uxp qistupem ceti, opdsietoph ecuav 10 quapft e xiil us vxu xiilt xet qsivvz tvepfesf updi zua huv opvu vji gmux.
O tez toy nupvjt cideati ovt nz onqsittoup vjev zua dep hiv podi sitamvt cz 3 epf hiv opvu e hsuuwi cz 6. Hazt vjev esi huuf xovj emm vjot tvagg O fuacv xuamf gopf nz tvagg vjev onqsittowi, epf O fup'v desi iovjis xez.

O katv vjopl vjev ovt disveopmz siemotvod gus hazt vu hiv vu e xiohjv esuapf 225 op 6 nupvjt.
Sohjv pux O upmz cipdj 200 dab O fup'v fu epzvjoph.

O tjuamf hiv cedl opvu ov, O'n tu tdsexpz sohjv pux.
Epzxezt, emxezt nietasi ugg zuastimg, puv uvjist, emm O fu ot katv gudat up hivvoph ov sohjv epf djemmiphoph nztimg xovjuav iwis cioph fitqisevi vu eff xiohjv (eff ov xjip ov giimt vuu mohjv).

Qsuqt vu NK up jon fuoph 400 epf aq. Wisz duum.