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How do you guys choose your penny stocks ?

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Penny stocks are scams. They are not real companies. They are trading vehicles who's sole purpose is to sell worse stock to unsuspecting newcomers like yourself. You can do all the home work you want but the fact remains penny stocks have no earnings, most have no revenues, no real product (although they claim to have a cure for cancer or the next iphone killer), and no future prospects. Penny stocks should NEVER be held for longer than several days. They are only for trading in the short term. Suckers do not realize this and try in invest in these companies but they end up losing big time when they get caught in a pump and dump. Nearly all penny stocks that go up are doing so because of a pump and dump of some sort.

I have been trading penny stocks for a decade. Someone mentioned Tim Sykes and although his strategy is legitimate you need about $42,000 at the absolute minimum to trade all the same stocks as him because you need at least 3 brokers. he will try to say otherwise but this is a straight up lie. He is a short seller and most brokers won't allow shorting penny stocks. He'll claim his student turned $1000 into $1 million, and while it's true, the guy started with $10000, not $1000. He borrowed the other $9000 from his family and left it in his account and did not touch it. You can't start with just $1000 and ever think you will make a million because brokers have minimum deposit amounts and you also can't have a margin account (which is required for short selling), without $2500. The guy also made money buying pump and dumps using awesome penny stocks alerts, but awesome penny stocks is now retired. Tim sykes rarely made money using the same strategy because like I said he is a short seller, and his strategy for buying penny stocks is not good.

As for following other people if you have a lot of money, $100k+ it may work out if you are a scalper, but if you are poor I guarantee you will lose if you try to follow other people. You have to learn a strategy of your own and make decisions yourself to be successful in trading. Tim Sykes earns more than 4 million a year from his subscribers to his alerts services and only a few hundred thousand from actually trading. He is very successful because he has 2500 people that "follow him" and the truth is these people literally inflate or deflate the price of stocks because penny stocks have low floats and move very easily when hundred or thousands of people all buy or sell at the same time. Tim does what is called fron running. He won't admit it because that's illegal but this is exactly what it is. He doesn't straight up send an alert and then sell into subscribers but waits for a bit and then sells for a profit nearly every time. The people who scalp for a quick profit make money a lot, but the rest of the subscribers lose their money to the people that are fast with more money who can get in and out fast.

Do yourself a favor and stop thinking you are going to make a million dollars in a year. Penny stocks are very competitive. It takes a few years to learn to be successful and most people fail because they are lazy, poor, undisciplined, and under estimate what the penny stock market really is: a way to steal money from those people who are uninformed. If you don't believe what I have just told you then go ahead and try your luck but you are just gambling. For every person that gets lucky and makes money in penny stocks there's another 1000 people that lose. I am not trying to deter your from getting involved but take your time and educate yourself for 6 months. You have to understand advanced technical analysis and have a trading plan and trading system with a statistical edge. Without this your will not succeed. I took me 2 years to learn to trade. I started in 2002 and have trading for a living ever since.
 
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How do you choose your penny stocks?

Seriously? By not choosing any of them, much like I don't choose to play Roulette in Vegas. The only way I'd be involved in penny stocks is if I was the one selling them. Translation: It's my company. Or, if I had control over the company by being on the BOD, or in a management position.

Ok so stocks have always grabbed my attention

It seems that anything that might make you rich while doing absolutely nothing grabs your attention.

Based on your posts, it's clear that building a business, and the hard work it entails (which is what this forum is about) is not your objective. Instead, you seem to be searching for some type of "magic appreciation vehicle" that will make you rich overnight, doing absolutely nothing but sitting on your a$$ and being one of the lucky fools who sold to the next fool.

First, it was/is BitCoin. If you look at the BitCoin thread, the people in there are as passionate as a bunch of MLMers who think they're gonna get rich doing nothing. Why? Because human psychology loves something for nothing. The idea that your $1K would suddenly blossom to $500K in 5 weeks is such an addictive folly that it makes people blind.

Now we got penny stocks, another speculative venture predicated on greater fools.

It's clear you haven't read TMF , and if you did, you did not comprehend a word within.

I'm seriously thinking about shutting down these conversations. There are better forums for it. This is a business forum predicated on value creation. And while "investing" is a big part of that equation, your inquiries are based on purely speculative ventures. If you are truly interested in penny stocks, follow the gurus who teach it and have had success with it -- you won't find that at this forum.

I leave you with this suggestion...

Read my avatar.

You cannot cheat the grind. It won't give you anything you haven't earned. And sorry my friend, but you are looking to cheat the grind and get what you haven't earned.
 
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I bought a penny stock one time, on a tip from a buddy.

It was a classic pump and dump. I was on the dump end.

The stock went through a one billion kazillion reverse split a week after the "hot tip" and I lost my entire "investment."

Welcome to penny stocks.
 

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I just flip a coin. Then pick up the coin. And go back to building a business.
 
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Guys, you can start a fastlane product or service business for little to no money and cash out at $5million dollars in 5 years. It's more about hard work and brains.

Are you kidding me? 5 years is way too long and way too much work! I want to be rich in 6 months without doing much work... or even much thinking. o_O

All kidding aside, I can't even take seriously those that pursue penny stock investing, cryptocurrency and the like as their main source of "revenue" (flame on:p). I see no value add, no problems being solved, etc.

There are a lot better ways of building up initial capital without all that risk (hustling and poker would be my first options :cool:). However, I think the intent of the OP here is not to build up capital for a project but to find a way to get rich quick. If you have the time (likely years not 5 months), dedication, determination and lots of disposable income to learn it more power to ya.
 
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I will understand if you close my thread and please, no hard feelings, I like this place.

I left it open because you guys enjoy the conversation, and for the most part, it remains civilized and, like it or not, the technology is disruptive (which is Fastlane itself.) I will keep it open and you are free to continue as you please.

I agree with most of what you said but I have to disagree with some of it. Their really are not better forums for this because all the forums that are geared towards penny stocks, or trading, are full of idiots that are looking for the next hot stock that will make them rich over night, or they are stock promoters who are being paid to pump stocks to said idiots in order to take their money.

Aren't you just validating what I just said though in somewhat of a semi-circualr way? The guys here "living the dream" have nothing to do with this shit. I don't wake up thinking about what penny stocks to buy. Vigilante doesn't wake up thinking about penny stocks. Biophase doesn't wake up looking at the latest stock selling for .21 cents. zen******* might have something to do with a penny stock because he probably underwrote the offering -- he's selling, not buying. That's why there are better forums for this -- we are too busy building our own empires instead of throwing the dice at someone else's.
 

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I network with a lot of successful entrepreneurs, a lot of these guys are triple digit millionaires for crying out loud. And not one did it by trading stocks or by affiliate marketing.

But one theme that comes up over and over again is: PRIVATE markets. After cashing out of their primary businesses a lot of these guys pursue private equity. Why? I'll let you figure it out.

Seriously look at all the benefits that a Fastlane product or service gives the entrepreneur; control , leverage, power. It literally makes me laugh out loud that you guys want to even consider trading penny stocks.

I'm not saying this to be a jerk but i'm saying this because you will be missing out on what MJ was trying to say in TMF .

Guys, you can start a fastlane product or service business for little to no money and cash out at $5million dollars in 5 years. It's more about hard work and critical thinking.
 
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I steer clear of penny stocks. They are too volatile, and people love to pump and dump. With bigger risk you get bigger rewards but i would probably put 5k on red before i put money on penny stocks
 
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Ok so stocks have always grabbed my attention, but now that I see penny stocks dont need tons of capital and Ive been studying, doing my homework etc. Its time to get in it, only thing im still slackin on is how do you guys choose your penny stocks ? If you guys help me with this goal, I will come back in 5 months with half a million mark my words.

This question, along with some of your other postings here, make me think you have never even read The Millionaire Fastlane . Have You?

To trade in stocks, not just penny stocks, and to beat an index is very difficult to do even if you are a professional trader. What makes you think you can make a half million doing this if you have to ask questions like this? If you are going to get into stock trading why pick penny stocks? Is a $10 stock too expensive for you to buy into? Or does the allure of owning a thousand shares of a shitty company make you feel like you are going to win the lottery?

I'm going to take a wild guess and say that you are just trying to chase money and will lose everything you sink into trading penny stocks.
 

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Yes they are volitile but all stocks are. So dont believe the bs.
R.I.P. murk01's cash.

Penny stocks are risky. But u can make tons of profit. And im talking from experience.
I see alot of ppl knocking them here. But how many of you have dabbled in them?
Oh I've made a ton of money on them, but not researching them like normal stocks. If you try and play a penny using a chart, or fundies, or pretty much anything besides volume, rumor, and news, "you're gonna have a bad time."


Oh and to actually be productive with this post... a lot of people get into pennies because of lack of capital and they don't have the necessary funds to be registered as a patterned day trader, so their trades per day and margin is limited. I've said it in other threads and I'll say it here! Look into FOREX! Most brokerages give you at least 50:1 margin to trade with, vs the 2:1 you'll have at your stock broker. It's also up 24 hours a day, 5 days a week, so you'll only have to worry about after hours trading on the weekends. The liquidity is literally billionssss of dollars a minute, so you don't have to worry about trying to sell your investment and getting stuck in a pump and dump. Because theoretically, all currencies should be in equilibrium, you really only need to focus on a single currency pair. Also, trade with an ECN (electronic communications network) and watch out for bucket shop brokerages!
 
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You should check out Timothy Sykes work if you want to get involved in this field.

Buy his training material or go on Profit.ly and find a strategy someone is teaching that you are interested in.

You can even piggy-back off other traders trades if you like.

He recently had a student make a million in three years starting with $1000.

Most importantly get educated. If you know nothing about chart patterns and the fundamentals of penny stocks, researching these companies and things to look out for you might get yourself into some trouble. Penny stocks are very volatile. Just be careful.
 
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@21elnegocio -
I think you'd make more money selling stuff on Amazon. If you noticed, all the big dogs on this board pretty much sell things.
 
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I agree with everything you said. I just didnt want to write an in depth post.

I have made some money getting in and out before a dump. I've also tried short selling and could never get any orders accepted so I moved on to trading options here and there and have done ok.

Do you only trade pennies exclusively, bringitnow? Or do you trade any other instruments?



No I trade anything with volatility including stocks, futures, forex, bonds, and options. I only trade penny stocks when they are very liquid. Almost all penny stocks have no volume so I avoid them. The penny stock market is essentially rigged for the average person (as is the stock market as a whole) but I just have one strategy for capitalizing on all the uninformed suckers that attempt to get involved in the penny stock market. I prefer to trade stocks in the $10-50 range but there is much more competition, and people with much larger bankrolls in stocks like GOOG or AAPL, than there are in some $1-5 penny stocks.
 

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If you guys help me with this goal, I will come back in 5 months with half a million mark my words.
Setting a reminder on my phone right now for May 24th to come back and see your half million

I agree with dknise and whomever said that large capital is required. Just because a stock only costs a penny, doesn't mean that the capital is lower because you need to be able to leverage your position. Regardless, if you want to learn forex..send dknise a message..he knows what he is talking about.
 
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Alty, people like you and Jake are committed to learning bitcoin or anything else you do in depth, and also committed to putting in the work.

It's not your fault that shiny object seekers are looking for the next great EZ-way-with-no-work to wealth.
 

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I left it open because you guys enjoy the conversation, and for the most part, it remains civilized and, like it or not, the technology is disruptive (which is Fastlane itself.) I will keep it open and you are free to continue as you please.

Thanks for clearing the air on that MJ.

If it all goes wrong and the tech gets driven out or dies, at least we can all have a good laugh about it and say "WTF were we thinking?" lol.
 
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If I ever get into it I am not holding for a week. Probably just a day to get guaranteed gains and get out.

This is the funniest thing I've read on TMF forums so far - oh, just to get guaranteed gains? Got it. Gosh, what a clever strategy.

@MJ: The entire investing forum has confused me a lot. People are trying to get rich quick with no effort trading options and forex, whereas I believe you set up this section to talk about investing your wealth once it's been generated into vehicles that give you income - as opposed to trying to build wealth through paper assets, which isn't what the book is about. Since your approach to paper assets is as a vehicle for income, I'm surprised this entire section is about short term trading and making a quick buck.
 

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Ok so stocks have always grabbed my attention, but now that I see penny stocks dont need tons of capital and Ive been studying, doing my homework etc. Its time to get in it, only thing im still slackin on is how do you guys choose your penny stocks ? If you guys help me with this goal, I will come back in 5 months with half a million mark my words.
 
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Use a filtering tool to search for the characteristics you want.

yahoo and google finance both have one.

You can filter stuff like share price, volume, market cap etc

Analyze the charts/news until you find a share worth trading.



my attention, but now that I see penny stocks dont need tons of capital
I disagree you either need a ton of capital or a ton of leverage to make trading fast lane or else its just grabbing nickels and dimes.
 

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Penny stocks are scams. They are not real companies. They are trading vehicles who's sole purpose is to sell worse stock to unsuspecting newcomers like yourself. You can do all the home work you want but the fact remains penny stocks have no earnings, most have no revenues, no real product (although they claim to have a cure for cancer or the next iphone killer), and no future prospects. Penny stocks should NEVER be held for longer than several days. They are only for trading in the short term. Suckers do not realize this and try in invest in these companies but they end up losing big time when they get caught in a pump and dump. Nearly all penny stocks that go up are doing so because of a pump and dump of some sort.

I have been trading penny stocks for a decade. Someone mentioned Tim Sykes and although his strategy is legitimate you need about $42,000 at the absolute minimum to trade all the same stocks as him because you need at least 3 brokers. he will try to say otherwise but this is a straight up lie. He is a short seller and most brokers won't allow shorting penny stocks. He'll claim his student turned $1000 into $1 million, and while it's true, the guy started with $10000, not $1000. He borrowed the other $9000 from his family and left it in his account and did not touch it. You can't start with just $1000 and ever think you will make a million because brokers have minimum deposit amounts and you also can't have a margin account (which is required for short selling), without $2500. The guy also made money buying pump and dumps using awesome penny stocks alerts, but awesome penny stocks is now retired. Tim sykes rarely made money using the same strategy because like I said he is a short seller, and his strategy for buying penny stocks is not good.

As for following other people if you have a lot of money, $100k+ it may work out if you are a scalper, but if you are poor I guarantee you will lose if you try to follow other people. You have to learn a strategy of your own and make decisions yourself to be successful in trading. Tim Sykes earns more than 4 million a year from his subscribers to his alerts services and only a few hundred thousand from actually trading. He is very successful because he has 2500 people that "follow him" and the truth is these people literally inflate or deflate the price of stocks because penny stocks have low floats and move very easily when hundred or thousands of people all buy or sell at the same time. Tim does what is called fron running. He won't admit it because that's illegal but this is exactly what it is. He doesn't straight up send an alert and then sell into subscribers but waits for a bit and then sells for a profit nearly every time. The people who scalp for a quick profit make money a lot, but the rest of the subscribers lose their money to the people that are fast with more money who can get in and out fast.

Do yourself a favor and stop thinking you are going to make a million dollars in a year. Penny stocks are very competitive. It takes a few years to learn to be successful and most people fail because they are lazy, poor, undisciplined, and under estimate what the penny stock market really is: a way to steal money from those people who are uninformed. If you don't believe what I have just told you then go ahead and try your luck but you are just gambling. For every person that gets lucky and makes money in penny stocks there's another 1000 people that lose. I am not trying to deter your from getting involved but take your time and educate yourself for 6 months. You have to understand advanced technical analysis and have a trading plan and trading system with a statistical edge. Without this your will not succeed. I took me 2 years to learn to trade. I started in 2002 and have trading for a living ever since.

I agree with everything you said. I just didnt want to write an in depth post.

I have made some money getting in and out before a dump. I've also tried short selling and could never get any orders accepted so I moved on to trading options here and there and have done ok.

Do you only trade pennies exclusively, bringitnow? Or do you trade any other instruments?
 

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Penny stocks are scams. They are not real companies. They are trading vehicles who's sole purpose is to sell worse stock to unsuspecting newcomers like yourself. You can do all the home work you want but the fact remains penny stocks have no earnings, most have no revenues, no real product (although they claim to have a cure for cancer or the next iphone killer), and no future prospects. Penny stocks should NEVER be held for longer than several days. They are only for trading in the short term. Suckers do not realize this and try in invest in these companies but they end up losing big time when they get caught in a pump and dump. Nearly all penny stocks that go up are doing so because of a pump and dump of some sort.

I have been trading penny stocks for a decade. Someone mentioned Tim Sykes and although his strategy is legitimate you need about $42,000 at the absolute minimum to trade all the same stocks as him because you need at least 3 brokers. he will try to say otherwise but this is a straight up lie. He is a short seller and most brokers won't allow shorting penny stocks. He'll claim his student turned $1000 into $1 million, and while it's true, the guy started with $10000, not $1000. He borrowed the other $9000 from his family and left it in his account and did not touch it. You can't start with just $1000 and ever think you will make a million because brokers have minimum deposit amounts and you also can't have a margin account (which is required for short selling), without $2500. The guy also made money buying pump and dumps using awesome penny stocks alerts, but awesome penny stocks is now retired. Tim sykes rarely made money using the same strategy because like I said he is a short seller, and his strategy for buying penny stocks is not good.

As for following other people if you have a lot of money, $100k+ it may work out if you are a scalper, but if you are poor I guarantee you will lose if you try to follow other people. You have to learn a strategy of your own and make decisions yourself to be successful in trading. Tim Sykes earns more than 4 million a year from his subscribers to his alerts services and only a few hundred thousand from actually trading. He is very successful because he has 2500 people that "follow him" and the truth is these people literally inflate or deflate the price of stocks because penny stocks have low floats and move very easily when hundred or thousands of people all buy or sell at the same time. Tim does what is called fron running. He won't admit it because that's illegal but this is exactly what it is. He doesn't straight up send an alert and then sell into subscribers but waits for a bit and then sells for a profit nearly every time. The people who scalp for a quick profit make money a lot, but the rest of the subscribers lose their money to the people that are fast with more money who can get in and out fast.

Do yourself a favor and stop thinking you are going to make a million dollars in a year. Penny stocks are very competitive. It takes a few years to learn to be successful and most people fail because they are lazy, poor, undisciplined, and under estimate what the penny stock market really is: a way to steal money from those people who are uninformed. If you don't believe what I have just told you then go ahead and try your luck but you are just gambling. For every person that gets lucky and makes money in penny stocks there's another 1000 people that lose. I am not trying to deter your from getting involved but take your time and educate yourself for 6 months. You have to understand advanced technical analysis and have a trading plan and trading system with a statistical edge. Without this your will not succeed. I took me 2 years to learn to trade. I started in 2002 and have trading for a living ever since.


Thanks for the info mate, yes I do know it has a high risk, If I ever get into it I am not holding for a week. Probably just a day to get guaranteed gains and get out. What is the minimum you must have to get into it ?
 
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I mean we are a community right ? thats what this forum is for, but yes other than that I am daily getting geeked up on this. I am willing to hustle my a$$ off even if I make 100 will be good for now.
 
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I mean we are a community right ? thats what this forum is for, but yes other than that I am daily getting geeked up on this. I am willing to hustle my a$$ off even if I make 100 will be good for now.
"Getting Geeked" already shows me that your emotions control you. I have a automated trading system with spreadsheet inputs that's for sale.
But my suggestion is that you really need to read the millionaire fastlane book to understand certain concepts of how money works. So, what I'll say is, if you want to be a team player, get on the same page please and read it.

Check back here in a week or two after you've read it, and we'll take it from there. Ok?
 

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No I trade anything with volatility including stocks, futures, forex, bonds, and options. I only trade penny stocks when they are very liquid. Almost all penny stocks have no volume so I avoid them. The penny stock market is essentially rigged for the average person (as is the stock market as a whole) but I just have one strategy for capitalizing on all the uninformed suckers that attempt to get involved in the penny stock market. I prefer to trade stocks in the $10-50 range but there is much more competition, and people with much larger bankrolls in stocks like GOOG or AAPL, than there are in some $1-5 penny stocks.



No I trade anything with volatility including stocks, futures, forex, bonds, and options. I only trade penny stocks when they are very liquid. Almost all penny stocks have no volume so I avoid them. The penny stock market is essentially rigged for the average person (as is the stock market as a whole) but I just have one strategy for capitalizing on all the uninformed suckers that attempt to get involved in the penny stock market. I prefer to trade stocks in the $10-50 range but there is much more competition, and people with much larger bankrolls in stocks like GOOG or AAPL, than there are in some $1-5 penny stocks.

Thanks for your reply bringitnow, at least someone gives some information. Like the saying says "Leaders create leaders" your one of them much thanks again. May you be payed with much returns.
 
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I mean we are a community right ? thats what this forum is for, but yes other than that I am daily getting geeked up on this. I am willing to hustle my a$$ off even if I make 100 will be good for now.
We're a community, but a community that's focused on providing value through fulfilling needs. IMHO, trading penny stocks does none of this. It's a market filled with 100% money hungry "pigs" (trading term) of people unwilling to go the full 9 yards so they stop at penny stocks.

Regardless, I started trading in penny stocks, moved to small and large cap, and ended up in forex. While you'll be learning chart indicators and a ton of trading factors, the only thing that matters is the psychology that makes someone hit the buy or sell button. This usually occurs in the penny stock world with some form of news. People buy on rumor, and begin to sell on the SEC registered news release. You'll see stocks slowly build for 2 or 3 weeks and then in one day skyrocket 1500%. It's so incredibly unstable and unpredictable, that you're literally not trading but playing a game of human behavior prediction.

Whatever you choose to do, goodluck!
 

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