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So instead you will start from scratch and market to young bucks with no money and work for hourly rates in hopes that that is easier to do?<br />
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If you are going to switch product / market, why not go for the top end divorcing business owner that has tons of money and no time and wants dating to be easier?? Charge a high monthly fee to help them lineup weekend fun. Sounds like you have no confidence / no skill and just want to say you are doing something / build in more excuses?
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I don't expect it to be easier, but I expect to enjoy the process more.<br />
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I'll be helping a group of people I care about (because I was once among them), I'll be doing it mostly online without the significant overheard, and I'll be able to build things once that will continue to sell for me (courses, for example).<br />
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I'm already marketing to people with no money, that's the reason at least 50% of my leads give me for why they can't move forward: "Oh I just wanted to see what your rates were, we have a guy who does it for $30 a cut and he comes weekly so we'll probably just stick with that." At least with this I won't be commoditized. Who are they going to compare me to? Some may argue that the barrier to entry is lower with this because all I need is a computer - I'd argue the barrier to entry to grass cutting is lower because all you need is a mower (I just got a lot of extra shit I barely used along with it). Johnny used to chastise me when I was having problems by saying that "absolute idiots are making money with this" - yeah, they're the ones I keep competing with. Like <a href="https://www.thefastlaneforum.com/community/members/22018/" class="username" data-xf-init="member-tooltip" data-user-id="22018" data-username="@MitchC">@MitchC</a> said, if I went about this differently and actually saw some of the money I was making by starting small, it might've been more fun.<br />
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As for the divorcing business owner suggestion, I believe that's been suggested before. I agree that I will need to find people who can afford to pay my rates if I'm as good at teaching this as I am at getting the result for myself. However, I am less familiar with the dating landscape as you get older, and that will come with its own challenges. If this business owner is 18-35 or 40, no problem. But if they're 50+ I might be more limited in the help I can provide because I haven't achieved the result they desire at the stage of life they're in. I might be just as good, and I wouldn't say no to these people, but I would be less confident in helping them achieve their dream outcome and don't want to make those promises to those people outright.<br />
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Reddit will chew you up and spit you out as soon as they smell the word "coach" and you'll quit again because that's what quitters do.<br />
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Nobody on the forum is buying because there's a good chance you'll quit on them as quickly as you quit on your own ideas.
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Cool, that's their problem, not mine. If somebody is in enough pain, I'd be happy to help, and I will find where those people are - whether or not they're on Reddit or this forum.<br />
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<i>"Trust me bro" isn't gonna cut it.</i>
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It's going to have to, at least initially. What would serve as sufficient proof that I get laid enough that I'm worth listening to? Because pictures and names of these girls isn't going to happen. I'm not trying to force a sale to a skeptical male Karen.<br />
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That is why I'm not looking to charge people an arm and a leg IMMEDIATELY, because I want to make it easy to say yes while I build credibility through their testimonials, and fine-tuning the system I'll deliver when I charge more for it.<br />
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Gaining experience at selling and coaching a $25/hr customer. But what sells a $25/hr customer is not going to sell a $250/hr customer.
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Completely agree. As with what <a href="https://www.thefastlaneforum.com/community/members/64612/" class="username" data-xf-init="member-tooltip" data-user-id="64612" data-username="@Kevin88660">@Kevin88660</a> said, it's just a starting point. I don't know what people are willing to pay in this space, or how many people are willing to pay it. So I'll start low, almost free, and make it easy to say yes while I build credibility with testimonials of their successes to back me up, while learning the best way to teach this skill.<br />
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I do like the money back guarantee idea.<br />
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I would like to see Andy's thoughts on all this, because in my private conversations with him his guiding principles were about how I could get a sale as quickly as possible, and how I could help more people. I already tagged him once so I won't tag him again, but really hoping he replies at some point.</div>