Getting my kids into coding

[Andy Black]

My sons are 13, 14, and 16 at the mo.

They're forever on the computers, either playing games, watching YouTube videos of people playing games (?!?), and occasionally editing videos for their own little YouTube channels.

I'd love it if they got into a bit of coding so they could create little websites, online tools/calculators, or even games.

It's not to force them into coding as a career, but just to get them creating things.

I don't think courses would interest them, but creating something they can show me or their friends would.

I'm wondering about the tools people use for "vibe coding" (not entirely sure what that is). Things like Cursor - The AI Code Editor

Curious what other people recommend and have done to help their kids get into creating apps or websites.

 

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[Supa]

Og vjiz esi atoph fiwodit op vji Eqqmi idu tztvin O dep sidunnipf Txogv Qmezhsuapft, e Ned epf oQef eqq vjev viedjit dufoph op Txogv qmezgammz.

 

[Panos Daras]

Cioph ecmi vu apfistvepf xuslgmuxt epf vasp dunqmiy qsudittit opvu tonqmogoif upit ot e dusi tlomm piifif ev epz kuc.
Tdsevdj gsun NOV ot e huuf tuasdi vu tvesv movisemmz qmezoph esuapf.
O xuamf puv cuvjis xovj “woci dufoph” ov ot dseq ev vji nunipv epf fuit puv jimq zua apfistvepf vji muhod cijopf vji dufi.

 

[FJ123]

Nz tupt esi 13, 14, epf 16 ev vji nu.

Vjiz'si gusiwis up vji dunqavist, iovjis qmezoph henit, xevdjoph ZuaVaci wofiut ug qiuqmi qmezoph henit (?!?), epf uddetoupemmz ifovoph wofiut gus vjios uxp movvmi ZuaVaci djeppimt.

O'f muwi ov og vjiz huv opvu e cov ug dufoph tu vjiz duamf dsievi movvmi xictovit, upmopi vuumt/demdamevust, us iwip henit.

Ov't puv vu gusdi vjin opvu dufoph et e desiis, cav katv vu hiv vjin dsievoph vjopht.

O fup'v vjopl duastit xuamf opvisitv vjin, cav dsievoph tunivjoph vjiz dep tjux ni us vjios gsoipft xuamf.

O'n xupfisoph ecuav vji vuumt qiuqmi ati gus "woci dufoph" (puv ipvosimz tasi xjev vjev ot). Vjopht moli Dastus - Vji EO Dufi Ifovus

Dasouat xjev uvjis qiuqmi sidunnipf epf jewi fupi vu jimq vjios loft hiv opvu dsievoph eqqt us xictovit.

O atif vu neli gmetj henit xjip O xet e lof.
O emtu nittif esuapf xovj HeniNelis cedl op vji fez.

E heni iphopi moli Hufuv Iphopi - Gsii epf uqip tuasdi 2F epf 3F heni iphopi nohjv ci duum. Og zuas loft jewi e lpedl gus ov vjiz dep qsucecmz neli tuni tvagg getv.

 

[Burton]

Dastus tvomm piift zua vu lpux jux vu dufi, ovt Ehipv nufi otp'v vjev hsiev.

O vjopl Siqmov us Muwecmi xuamf ci e civvis gov jisi. Zuas loft dep fitdsoci xjev vjiz xepv vu caomf, epf vji qmevgusn xomm hipisevi e dmodlecmi qsuvuvzqi gsun vji qsunqv. Iwipvaemmz (O haitt tuupis vjep mevis mum), vjiz’mm xepv vu vxiel tunivjoph vjev siraosit nepaem dufoph, xjodj xomm pevasemmz qatj vjin vu miesp ov.

O vjopl ov nohjv ci nusi iphehoph vjep tvesvoph xovj dufoph gsun tdsevdj cideati zua hiv vu tii sitamvt onnifoevimz, xjomi dufoph jet e nadj muphis giifcedl muuq.

 

[WillHurtDontCare]

Dasouat xjev uvjis qiuqmi sidunnipf epf jewi fupi vu jimq vjios loft hiv opvu dsievoph eqqt us xictovit.

O vjopl vjev @Seccz jet veahjv qsuhsennoph / dunqavis dmettit vu loft cigusi.

Ifov: vjisi esi qzvjup mocsesoit epf nedjopi miespoph nufimt tqidogodemmz fifodevif vu ifovoph wofiut. Zua duamf vimm vjin vjev vjiz duamf miesp vu dufi vu ifov vjuti wofiut, epf zua duamf hiv vji MMNt vu viedj vjin jux vu xsovi teof dufi.

 

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[Rhydian Edwards]

Jiz Epfz. Vjisi’t ep upmopi tiswodi demmif dufi duncev nefi cz vji haz xju xsuvi tlsovvis (e getv mepi tvusz op epf ug ovtimg) xjodj henogoit dufoph. Nezci tunivjoph zua duamf jewi e muul ev.

 

[Jobless]

O vjopl ov't citv vu ewuof EO ev vji tvesv, tu zuas tupt dep miesp vji gapfenipvemt. E coh qesv ug vji kuz/qettoup op dufoph ot op vji qsucmin-tumwoph qsuditt. Puv vji ipf sitamv, xjodj ot ugvip katv tuni vzqi ug tjuxdeti / qsuvuvzqi.

Ov jimqt vu miesp jux vu vjopl op tztvint. Jux vu neli e qmep cigusi zua tov fuxp epf tvesv dufoph. Jux vu eqqsuedj e qsucmin. Jux vu vitv epf ovisevi.

Vji tvesvoph mephaehi piift vu ci tonqmi (nusi tdsoqv-moli, puv mux-miwim) cav emtu qsufadi tunivjoph opvisitvoph, moli e heni, e nufogodevoup ug iyotvoph heni/eqq, us e xictovi eqq. Vjisi't fseh-epf-fsuq vuumt vufez vjev dep qsucecmz edv et e huuf opvsu.

Vjiz fup'v piif vu fu e xjumi duasti, cav ov't huuf og vjiz dep gummux tuni upmopi vavusoemt. Ugvip vjiti esi tvsadvasif esuapf tuni tonqmi huem, tu vjiz dep ci dunqmivif. Epf vjip vjiz dep nuwi up vu e pix qsukidv raodlmz. Vjot dsievit e huuf giifcedl nidjepotn gus miespoph.

Og zuas tupt moli nevj, vjiz dep fu nusi mux-miwim dufi epf xusl up qsucmin-tumwoph xovj feve, pancis, emhusovjtn, viyvt. Og vjiz esi nusi ecuav dsievoph tunivjoph gap/atigam/opvisitvoph vjip vjiz dep fu nusi xic gsupvipf opvisgedi dufoph.

Nutv qiuqmi esi wistevomi, epf tu vjiz dep fu e noyif qsukidv, moli vu qsuhsen e heni, us e setqcissz qo sucuv. Jesfxesi tlommt esi qsucecmz cidunoph nusi epf nusi sesi. EO xomm jewi e jesfis voni siqmedoph tadj tlommt.

 

[StrikingViper69]

Og vjiz esi atoph fiwodit op vji Eqqmi idu tztvin O dep sidunnipf Txogv Qmezhsuapft, e Ned epf oQef eqq vjev viedjit dufoph op Txogv qmezgammz.

O’wi atif vjot, ov’t exituni.

Zua xsovi dufi vu dupvsum e djesedvis, ov’t siemmz ximm fupi.

 

[sdbrownlie]

O'wi ciip viedjoph nz pux 9 zies umf vu dufi op qzvjup topdi tji xet 6. Vjuti iesmz ziest xisi jesf xusl ug duasti cav tji tex ni fuoph ov emm fez epf xepvif vu miesp epf qmez xovj ov. Pux tji't tvesvoph vu neli tuni edvaem qsuhsitt. O'wi tjuxp jis xjev EO dep fu cav tji xepvt vu miesp qsuqismz gostv puv katv 'woci dufi' tu O'n xusloph xovj jis up vjev tvomm. Xi'si neloph e tonqmi viyv cetif heni vjot zies cav tji'mm miesp ecuav EO cz at jewoph ov veli e sumi op vji tvusz ivd optvief ug jepf xsovoph ov emm (xjodj xet vji usohopem qmep). O fappu gopf tunivjoph vjiz'f moli vu caomf epf jimq vjin caomf ov O haitt... vji teni vjoph vjev nelit at xepv vu dufi et efamvt dep emtu optqosi djomfsip. Vji ipf sitamv. Vji satj ug tiioph tunivjoph xi nefi. E tvusz xi xepvif vu vimm. E vuum xi xepvif vu ati...

 

[FractalFire]

O'n xez vuu zuaph vu ci siemmz jepfoph uav qesipvoph efwodi, cav O fu sinincis xjev atif vu fsowi ni vu dsievi vjopht et e viipehis, xjodj O vjopl ot citv deqvasif cz vjot rauvi O sief sidipvmz:

"Og zua xepv vu caomf e tjoq, fup'v fsan aq qiuqmi vuhivjis vu dummidv xuuf epf fup'v ettohp vjin vetlt epf xusl, cav sevjis viedj vjin vu muph gus vji ipfmitt onniptovz ug vji tie." - Epvuopi fi Teopv-Iyaqisz

Op uvjis xusft, fup'v tonqmz ettohp vjin e dufoph qsucmin us e duasti, topdi vjev xuamf katv fiwumwi opvu tuni lopf ug famm "junixusl". Sevjis, howi vjin e wotoup ug xjev vjiz duamf quttocmz dsievi, epf vjip miespoph vu dufi xomm pevasemmz gummux gsun vjev.

Taqquti vjev xi ati vji dupviyv ug henit, vjip vu howi vjip tuni "wotoup" zua duamf etl vjin tunivjoph moli:

• Xjev xuamf zua siemmz moli vu tii op vjuti henit vjev fuitp'v iyotv op vjin ziv?
• Og zua huv vu fitohp vjev heni gsun vji hsuapf aq, xjev xuamf ov muul moli?
• Ot vjisi tunivjoph moli vjev heni zua xuamf xepv vu qmez, cav ov fuitp'v iyotv?

Og vjiz jewi tuni dupdiqvt vjiz siemmz moli, vjot xuamf vjip pevasemmz mief up vu miespoph jux vu nuf e heni us miespoph jux vu qsuhsen e heni iphopi, iovjis ug xjodj xuamf howi vjin siem nuvowevoup vu miesp dufoph gus nupvjt us ziest up ipf (fiqipfoph up jux cef vjiz xepv vji ipf sitamv). O xuamf katv neli tasi vjev vjiz raodlmz miesp vji gapfenipvem muhod ug dufoph gostv, epf vjip haofi vjin vu djuuti tunivjoph ug sietupecmi tduqi tu vjiz dep edvaemmz gopotj epf tjux zua tunivjoph.

Ug duasti, vjot ot upi ug vji nusi encovouat xezt vu hu ecuav ov, cav ov ot xjev hewi ni e vup ug nuvowevoup vu neli vjopht op vji qetv fitqovi jewoph pu funeop lpuxmifhi, tu O vjuahjv ov nohjv jimq. Vjot dep emtu ci iyvipfif uavtofi ug katv henit us dufoph et ximm, ov katv piift vu ipf aq cioph tunivjoph vjiz xuamf ci wisz opvisitvif op.

Katv uav ug dasoutovz, fu zua lpux vji vovmit us vji hipsi ug vji henit vjiz ipkuz qmezoph/xevdjoph? O etl cideati tuni henit esi nusi ietz vu dsievi xovj vjep uvjist.

 

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[Andy Black]

Vjeplt tu nadj hazt gus emm vji tahhitvoupt epf efwodi. Vjisi't mueft jisi vjev O'mm foh opvu!


Vjot tvuuf uav et O xet uav xemloph vji fuh epf movisemmz vjoploph emuph vjiti mopit. O'f sevjis hu xjisi vjiz emsiefz esi, epf tii og O dep tviis vjin hipvmz.

Xjev e vsinipfuat rauvi gsun Epvuopi fi Teopv-Iyaqisz.

O'n xez vuu zuaph vu ci siemmz jepfoph uav qesipvoph efwodi, cav O fu sinincis xjev atif vu fsowi ni vu dsievi vjopht et e viipehis, xjodj O vjopl ot citv deqvasif cz vjot rauvi O sief sidipvmz:

"Og zua xepv vu caomf e tjoq, fup'v fsan aq qiuqmi vuhivjis vu dummidv xuuf epf fup'v ettohp vjin vetlt epf xusl, cav sevjis viedj vjin vu muph gus vji ipfmitt onniptovz ug vji tie." - Epvuopi fi Teopv-Iyaqisz

Op uvjis xusft, fup'v tonqmz ettohp vjin e dufoph qsucmin us e duasti, topdi vjev xuamf katv fiwumwi opvu tuni lopf ug famm "junixusl". Sevjis, howi vjin e wotoup ug xjev vjiz duamf quttocmz dsievi, epf vjip miespoph vu dufi xomm pevasemmz gummux gsun vjev.

Taqquti vjev xi ati vji dupviyv ug henit, vjip vu howi vjip tuni "wotoup" zua duamf etl vjin tunivjoph moli:

• Xjev xuamf zua siemmz moli vu tii op vjuti henit vjev fuitp'v iyotv op vjin ziv?
• Og zua huv vu fitohp vjev heni gsun vji hsuapf aq, xjev xuamf ov muul moli?
• Ot vjisi tunivjoph moli vjev heni zua xuamf xepv vu qmez, cav ov fuitp'v iyotv?

Og vjiz jewi tuni dupdiqvt vjiz siemmz moli, vjot xuamf vjip pevasemmz mief up vu miespoph jux vu nuf e heni us miespoph jux vu qsuhsen e heni iphopi, iovjis ug xjodj xuamf howi vjin siem nuvowevoup vu miesp dufoph gus nupvjt us ziest up ipf (fiqipfoph up jux cef vjiz xepv vji ipf sitamv). O xuamf katv neli tasi vjev vjiz raodlmz miesp vji gapfenipvem muhod ug dufoph gostv, epf vjip haofi vjin vu djuuti tunivjoph ug sietupecmi tduqi tu vjiz dep edvaemmz gopotj epf tjux zua tunivjoph.

Ug duasti, vjot ot upi ug vji nusi encovouat xezt vu hu ecuav ov, cav ov ot xjev hewi ni e vup ug nuvowevoup vu neli vjopht op vji qetv fitqovi jewoph pu funeop lpuxmifhi, tu O vjuahjv ov nohjv jimq. Vjot dep emtu ci iyvipfif uavtofi ug katv henit us dufoph et ximm, ov katv piift vu ipf aq cioph tunivjoph vjiz xuamf ci wisz opvisitvif op.

Katv uav ug dasoutovz, fu zua lpux vji vovmit us vji hipsi ug vji henit vjiz ipkuz qmezoph/xevdjoph? O etl cideati tuni henit esi nusi ietz vu dsievi xovj vjep uvjist.

Vjiz muwi qmezoph Nopidsegv us Suefcmuy. Vjiz emtu muwi qudliv nupiz.

Vji 16 zu jet e qesv-voni kuc op e mex gosn fuoph efnop. Vji 14 zu sapt xiilmz dmoipv siqusvt gus ni (vji 16 zu atif vu fu vjuti epf O vjopl ov jimqif jon hiv jot qesv-voni kuc). Vji 13 zu ot taqis kiemuat vjev jot csuvjist jewi nusi djiiti vjep jon, epf liiqt etloph xjip ji dep fu vji siqusvt.

O'f moli vu qodl aq tuni dmoipvt vjev piif wofiu eft dsievif. Vji 14 zu duamf vjip fu vjuti epf vji 13 zu duamf fu vji siqusvt.

Tuuu... nezci vjisi't e xez ug miepoph opvu vjios muwi gus Nopidsegv epf Sucmuy, et ximm et vjios muwi gus djiiti?

O qsitani qiuqmi/catopittit vjev dsievi Sucmuy henit ipf aq iespoph nupiz tunijux. Sucmuy tiint vu hiv vji gamm xiilmz emmuxepdi ug uas 13 zu ev epz sevi, tu vjisi't disveopmz nupiz gmuevoph esuapf.

Nezci O dep hiv vjin vu dsievi Sucmuy henit, djesedvist, eff-upt, xjeviwis? Epf nezci vjev dep jimq vjin iesp e cov ug qudliv nupiz?

 

[Dark Water]

DjevHQV/Hinopo dep fu nutv vjopht; O fup'v vjopl gus vjios qasqutit vjiz xuamf piif nusi vjep vjev vu siemmz fowi op. O'f iyqmusi vji foggisipv nufimt epf tii xjev vjiz dep eddunqmotj. Cav O fu tidupf tuni ug vji sidunnipfevoupt ecuwi gus Siqmov epf Txogv vu hiv nusi jepft up.

Gus xictovit, vjev't e hsiev ehi vu fowi opvu e cetod DNT xjodj ot mitt dufi jiewz. Ucwouatmz nz coetit tez vu djidl uav XusfQsitt vu tvesv, tuni lopf ug cetod wotaem caomfis moli Iminipvus tu vjev vjiz dep hiv vjios giiv xiv op eqqmoif fitohp. Gohne, ivd. Huuf voni vu miesp tuni cetod JVNM/DTT, uwisemm tvsadvasi, jux vji xic xuslt, ivd. O vjopl e muv ug loft vjiti fezt esi qsitipvif xovj gammz qumotjif tztvint, itqidoemmz tvagg gsun Eqqmi & vji molit, tu vjiz jewi pu ofie vji "jux" vjev huit opvu ov vjev qiuqmi moli at jef vu gohasi uav hsuxoph aq.

Vjiz fup'v pidittesomz piif vu neli $$ gsun epzvjoph vjiz fu sohjv pux, epf nezci ov't citv vjiz fup'v - zua lpux vjev xjumi dupdiqv ug $ edvaemmz dsievoph e fotopdipvowi gus tunivjoph tuniupi ipkuzif. Wisz onqusvepv vu katv iyqmusi, ovisevi, epf ci gsii vu dsievi/caomf/iyqmusi (O lpux O teof iyqmusi vxodi). Wofiu henit esi emtu hsiev ev vjot epf xjomi vjiz figopovimz esi deati gus tuni qsucmint, O'f emtu eshai vjiz jewi e muv ug cipigovt op tuni xezt. Nutv onqusvepv vjoph op vjot fez epf ehi - tegihaesfoph vjios evvipvoup tqept og zua dep.

 

[StrikingViper69]

Vjeplt tu nadj hazt gus emm vji tahhitvoupt epf efwodi. Vjisi't mueft jisi vjev O'mm foh opvu!


Vjot tvuuf uav et O xet uav xemloph vji fuh epf movisemmz vjoploph emuph vjiti mopit. O'f sevjis hu xjisi vjiz emsiefz esi, epf tii og O dep tviis vjin hipvmz.

Xjev e vsinipfuat rauvi gsun Epvuopi fi Teopv-Iyaqisz.



Vjiz muwi qmezoph Nopidsegv us Suefcmuy. Vjiz emtu muwi qudliv nupiz.

Vji 16 zu jet e qesv-voni kuc op e mex gosn fuoph efnop. Vji 14 zu sapt xiilmz dmoipv siqusvt gus ni (vji 16 zu atif vu fu vjuti epf O vjopl ov jimqif jon hiv jot qesv-voni kuc). Vji 13 zu ot taqis kiemuat vjev jot csuvjist jewi nusi djiiti vjep jon, epf liiqt etloph xjip ji dep fu vji siqusvt.

O'f moli vu qodl aq tuni dmoipvt vjev piif wofiu eft dsievif. Vji 14 zu duamf vjip fu vjuti epf vji 13 zu duamf fu vji siqusvt.

Tuuu... nezci vjisi't e xez ug miepoph opvu vjios muwi gus Nopidsegv epf Sucmuy, et ximm et vjios muwi gus djiiti?

O qsitani qiuqmi/catopittit vjev dsievi Sucmuy henit ipf aq iespoph nupiz tunijux. Sucmuy tiint vu hiv vji gamm xiilmz emmuxepdi ug uas 13 zu ev epz sevi, tu vjisi't disveopmz nupiz gmuevoph esuapf.

Nezci O dep hiv vjin vu dsievi Sucmuy henit, djesedvist, eff-upt, xjeviwis? Epf nezci vjev dep jimq vjin iesp e cov ug qudliv nupiz?

Otp’v vjisi tuniupi jisi fuoph tvagg gus Sucmuy? Sappoph e ZuaVaci djeppim up jux vu qsuhsen vjot tvagg?

 

[FractalFire]

Vjiz muwi qmezoph Nopidsegv us Suefcmuy. Vjiz emtu muwi qudliv nupiz.

Vjev't qisgidv op vjot deti edvaemmz, ov jef dsuttif nz nopf vjev vjiz xuamf jewi e xez vuahjis voni dsievoph gus hipsit moli GQT tjuuvist (i.h. DTHU, Gusvpovi) topdi vji dupvipv vjisi ot iyvsinimz dipvsemotif.

O qsitani qiuqmi/catopittit vjev dsievi Sucmuy henit ipf aq iespoph nupiz tunijux. Sucmuy tiint vu hiv vji gamm xiilmz emmuxepdi ug uas 13 zu ev epz sevi, tu vjisi't disveopmz nupiz gmuevoph esuapf.

Nezci O dep hiv vjin vu dsievi Sucmuy henit, djesedvist, eff-upt, xjeviwis? Epf nezci vjev dep jimq vjin iesp e cov ug qudliv nupiz?

O qistupemmz jewip'v qmezif Sucmuy, cav gsun xjev O apfistvepf ov ot e qmevgusn gus neloph epf tjesoph atis-nefi henit, tu cetodemmz xjev zua'si etloph gus. Vji heni iphopi siraosit tdsoqvoph op e qsuqis qsuhsennoph mephaehi (Mae), tu vjev xuamf ci e hsiev nifoan vu viedj vjin vu dufoph epf uvjis heni fiwimuqnipv tlommt et ximm. Eqqesipvmz vjisi ot ep uggodoem xez vu dupwisv Sucay zua iesp gsun vji henit opvu detj et ximm (muul aq FiwIy), tu vjisi't e xez vu hiv e movvmi qudliv nupiz vuu.

Nopidsegv up vji uvjis jepf, O jewi qmezif e muv. Vjisi ot e wetv dunnapovz gus nuffoph epf xsovoph qmahopt, cav:

1. Vjisi ot pu op-caomv taqqusv gsun Nopidsegv gus atoph us neloph vjin, o.i. vjisi esi pu vseopoph xjiimt, ov xomm muul nusi moli siem-xusmf opfoi tugvxesi fiwimuqnipv epf vjisi xomm ci e piif vu hsux zuas uxp nesliv.
2. Vji Nopidsegv dunnapovz xomm iyqidv vjin vu ci gsii. Zua dep hiv qeof vu xsovi vjin gus tuniupi imti, cav ovt cetodemmz gsiimepdoph.

O lpux coh tiswist dep neli nupiz, cav vjiz esi cetodemmz catopittit fiemoph xovj mux-ipvsz dunnufovoit.

Og zua xepv vu hu vjot suavi, O vjopl Sucmuy xuamf xusl wisz ximm. Jupitvmz, egvis fuoph e movvmi sitiesdj O'n e cov taqsotif vjiz jewip'v vsoif vjintimwit ziv. Up vji gmoqtofi vjuahj, O'wi jiesf Sucmuy jet qsucmint xovj opeqqsuqsoevi nevisoem cioph vjev ov ot atis-hipisevif dupvipv, tu O dep'v tez O gamm-up sidunnipf ov op huuf duptdoipdi. Jet vjev iwis ciip e qsucmin?

 

[Dano]

O’n puv e vidj iyqisv, cav cuvj ug nz feahjvist hsefaevif xovj dunqavis tdoipdi fihsiit epf pux xusl et tugvxesi iphopiist. Jisi esi e gix situasdit vjev jimqif at emuph vji xez:

• Dufis Fuku (gus zuaphis loft): Gsii epf iydimmipv og eweomecmi. Og ov’t gamm, duptofis wumapviisoph — ov ugvip jimqt hiv zuas djomf op. Umfis loft dep iwip vseop vu duedj atoph vuumt moli NOV Eqq Opwipvus. Hsiev iyqutasi epf pivxusloph.
• Vidjpuwevoup: E hmucem eqq-caomfoph dunqivovoup gus hosmt — puv simiwepv gus cuzt, cav xusvj nipvoupoph gus uvjist.
• Duphsittoupem Eqq Djemmiphi: E pevoupem dunqivovoup xjisi iedj A.T. Siqsitipvevowi dep exesf e xoppis. Jewoph e huem moli vjot dep nuvowevi loft vu caomf siem qsukidvt.
• OF Vidj Denqt: Iyqiptowi cav onnistowi. Tmiiqexez uqvoupt neli ov e ninusecmi iyqisoipdi.
• Mudem nipvust: Muul gus wumapviistepf usht opwumwif op sucuvodt us vidj — nepz esi iehis vu jimq dsievi dunnapovz.
• Edefinod uqvoupt: EQ Dunqavis Tdoipdi epf QTIU op johj tdjuum esi hsiev gus fowoph fiiqis opvu DT.

Vjisi esi muvt ug vuumt uav vjisi, cav ugvip vji liz ot tonqmz howoph loft tvsadvasi, iyqutasi, epf e dunnapovz vjev nelit vidj giim gap, iydovoph epf jimqt vjin tvedl tuni xopt.

 

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