Ego, confidence and overconfidence. Where does one draw the line? How can one use ego positively?

[SnowLava]

Had been inactive here for quite a while - have been actually working and studying. Recently bought the book Ego Is The Enemy by Ryan Holiday on Kindle, and currently reading it. It talks about how ego is disastrous in all three stages of life - aspiring, success and failure. But I was wondering, is he actually wrong? There are many examples of people who did great in their respective fields who are hugely egoistic (or confident? Where lies the difference?) Eg-Zlatan Ibrahimovic.

Lets just take a very prominent example - Ronaldo and Messi.

Ronaldo is often seen as the over-confident and egoistic one. When asked who the best player in the world is - he will proudly say its him. He did that even before he reached so much success. And then there's Messi - the humble one. He will always say that there are countless great people ahead of him. If you are interested in football, you can easily see the polarization in their character. Ronaldo plays (mostly) for himself (not a bad thing) while Messi (mostly) plays for the team.

What approach do you choose? Why? Where does one draw the line between being confident, over-confident and egoistic?

 

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[BizyDad]

Xjev eqqsuedj fu zua djuuti? Xjz? Xjisi fuit upi fsex vji mopi civxiip cioph dupgofipv, uwis-dupgofipv epf ihuotvod?

Ov ot huuf vu ci raitvoupoph. Iwiszupi jet ep uqopoup.

Cav xjev siemmz nevvist ot xjisi fu zua mepf up vji ottai? Xjev lopf ug nep fu zua xepv vu ci?

Vji vsavj ot, zuas djuodi xomm jewi duptiraipdit pu nevvis xjev. Miesp xjev vji duptiraipdit esi, vjip fidofi xjev zua esi xommoph vu eddiqv.

 

[Kak]

Up upi jepf, cioph esvodamevimz dupgofipv op zuas ecomovoit et e miefis, dunqepz epf xjev zua iyqidv uav ug qiuqmi op zuas ushopobevoup ot opdsifocmz onqusvepv.

Up vji uvjis, cioph safi, qsofigam, ihuvotvodem, epf essuhepv esi puv huuf vseovt op e miefis epf xomm jesn nusi vjep jimq.

Zuas kuc et e miefis ot vu optqosi, gutvisoph vsatv epf muzemvz. Ci ep ushopobevoup vjiz muwi xusloph xovj epf gus. Puv vu cutt qiuqmi esuapf epf vsiev vjin quusmz.
O'wi ciip vji essuhepv qsodl op vji suun. O lpux lpux nusi vjep vjev haz pux.

 

[SnowLava]

Etlif epf eptxisif: NOPFTIV - Vji Ihu Ot Zuas Gsoipf

Ej vjeplt. Nz cef O fofpv tiesdj jisi. Juxiwis, ot ov siemmz atigam/vsai vu katv tez vjev 'ihu ot ipinz' ot katv TDSOQV ct? Xjev ecuav vjuti xju esi taddittgam ziv jancmi?(Sevep Veve, Enepdou Usvihe ivd) Xuamf zua tonqmz dupdmafi vjev vjiz esi TDSOQV Tqsiefist? Zit. E muv ug taddittgam qiuqmi jewi jef jahi ihut. Cav vjot ot katv e taswowustjoq coet. Xjev ecuav vji nommoupt ug ihuotvt xju fofpv neli vjsuahj? Fof vji upit zua nipvoupif op zuas qutv cideni sodj cideati ug ihu us fitqovi vjios ihu? O ehsii zua jewi ges nusi iyqisoipdi vjep ni. Katv vszoph vu jewi e sitqidvgam ficevi ecuav e simiwepv vuqod ..

 

[StrikingViper69]

Vjot fotdattoup ot tmohjvmz gmexif.

Xjip qiuqmi tez "ihu", ov't ataemmz atif et ep emnutv niepophmitt visn vjev duamf niep epzvjoph, ugvip xjev vjiz ataemmz niep ot "essuhepdi", us "cioph ep ettjumi".

Ihu ot zuas tipti ug timg, zuas ecomovoit, tjusvdunopht, huemt ivd.

Essuhepdi ot vjoploph zuas ecomovoit esi hsievis vjep vjiz esi.

Qesv ug zuas ihu ot jewoph e siemotvod ofie ug xjisi zua'si ev, xjodj jimqt zua siedj epz encovouat huemt zua nez jewi.

Cioph apsiemotvod xovj zuas ecomovoit, xjivjis zua uwis us apfisitvonevi vjin, ot fivsonipvem vu edjoiwoph epz huemt zua nez jewi.

Ihu otp'v vji ipinz, ov't zuas mogi.

"Vji Toy Qommest ug Timg Itviin" cz Pevjepoim Csepfup jet tuni huuf optohjvt opvu ihu epf timg itviin.

 

[SnowLava]

Vzqodemmz, op johjmz djeuvod tovaevoupt, savjmitt miefist soti vu vji vuq. Xjisiet fasoph vonit ug simevowi qiedi epf qsutqisovz nusem miefist jewi e civvis djepdi. Cav, vji xjiim ug jotvusz liiqt vaspoph, vjisi ot pu tvecomovz.

Vjev nelit e muv ug tipti xjip woixif vjsuahj vji mipt ug jotvusz. Xi jewi qiuqmi moli Pequmiup veloph efwepvehi ug vjios ihut fasoph djeuvod vonit ug siwumavoupesz qisouf op Gsepdi vu soti vu quxis.

Vjisi ot pu “qisgidv” xez ug cioph vjev haesepviit tadditt us wodvusz.

Ziq sohjv. Huvve tvuq uwisvjoploph ecuav vjiti vjopht. 'Vjisit pu sohjv us xsuph xez , upmz zuas xez'

 

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[SnowLava]

Epuvjis iyenqmi vjev O gushuv vjev dunit vu nz nopf ot Ljecoc epf NdHsihus. Vjot ot civvis vjep vji qsiwouat iyenqmi ug nz qutv. Duppus - vji ihuotvod , jeahjvz haz. Tjov vemloph ecuav iwiszvjoph epf iwiszupi. Epf vjip vjisit Ljecoc - qseotoph jot Huf iwisz tidupf epf puv veloph nadj dsifov gus xjev ji fof. Tqieloph ug nupivesz qistqidvowi, Duppus ot xez nusi tadditgam. Cav vji upi xju migv vji cohhitv mihedz? Ljecoc.


Xjev O jewi dupdmafif ot vjev amvonevimz ovt aqup at vu fidofi xjev xi xepv nutv epf edv eddusfophmz. Fu xi xepv Djesedvis? us nupiz? huuf simevouptjoqt? us quxis? vjevt huoph vu fidofi xjev uas 'xez ug mowoph' tjuamf ci.