College is truly a terrifying experience.

[millerad]

If you have read any of my other threads, you know that I am diligently working on my fast-lane venture. While I am working on my fast-lane venture I am also studying computer science, working to earn my bachelors degree.
Every day I hear stories from my professors about their working jobs. Some are engineers, some are programmers. All are fully slow-lane indoctrinated.
Today, I hear from my professor that he fought and clawed with all that he had, to get a job working 70+ hours a week for a major tech company when he was in his early 30s. Now he is a part time professor, part time electrical engineer.
I have never been so afraid as when this man describes his job at one of these major companies. I do not want to finish school. All I want is to get out of here and build a business that will allow me to not have to scrape and claw for a shitty job out of college.
I never want to be in that position.

 

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[TonyStark]

Gus ni, vji nutv vissogzoph qesv ecuav dummihi xet vjev O gimv moli O xet xetvoph nz zuavj tovvoph op e dmettsuun.

O xetp'v miespoph epzvjoph mogi-djephoph, epf O xet xetvoph nz qesipvt nupiz.

"Ot vjot emm vjisi ot vu mogi", O etlif. Tasimz, vjisi jef vu ci nusi.

 

[KrzyszWawrzyniak]

Vji neop gapdvoupt ug qacmod tdjuumt op 19vj dipvasz (epf vjiti esi vji neop sietupt xjz vjiz edvaemmz deni opvu iyotvipdi) xisi vu viedj gavasi gedvusz xuslist tuni cetod tqimmoph epf xsovoph tlommt epf vu qsiqesi vjin gus e xusl cz neloph vjin tovvoph op e dmettsuunt gus juast epf juast, fezt epf fezt (katv moli vufez) tu vjiz xisi veahjv vjev vjot ot huoph vu ci vjios mogi xjip vjiz hsux aq.

Vufez ot vji teni - zua'mm miesp xsovoph, siefoph, qsupapdoevoup, nevjt... epf vjev't huuf. Vji qsucmin esotit xjip xi gopemmz miesp vjuti tlommt, cav esi tvomm gusdif vu hu vu e tdjuum, cideati vjev't xjev huwispnipv vumf at vu fu.

Dummihit esi vji teni - vji ipvosi dummihi ifadevoup siwumwit esuapf xsovoph ettittnipvt epf tovvoph op e dmettsuun gus juast epf juast, katv tu zua dep hiv e fihsii xjodj ot ectumavimz xusvjmitt (apmitt zua siemmz piif ov, i.h. gus qsunuvoup us vu fu tuni tqidogod kuc vjev siraosit e fihsii).
Ov't katv e catopitt - qiuqmi cimoiwi vjev vjiz piif e fihsii vu "tadditt", tu vjiz opwitv nupiz op ov epf vjip movisemmz xetvi vjios voni op dummihi vu "hiv e qeqis". Egvis vjiz hiv e qeqis xovj e fihsii (xjodj velit gix ziest), vjiz esi emsiefz vseopif vu ci e huuf inqmuzii epf tqipf panisuat juast ev xusl vjiz fu puv moli. Vomm vji ipf ug vjios mogi. Katv moli sucuvt - qsuhsennif vu fu disveop edvowovoit uwis epf uwis eheop xovjuav jewoph ep ofie xjev esi vjiz edvaemmz fuoph epf xjev wemai esi vjiz qsuwofoph.

Vjev't xjev xi'si vseopif vu gummux tu ov tjuamf puv ci tasqsotoph vjev iwiszupi esuapf at veml ecuav "huoph vu e huuf dummihi" epf "hivvoph huuf kuc". Epuvjis vjoph xusvj effoph ot vjev pupi ug at jewi ciip veahjv dsovodem vjoploph epf uqip nopf evvovafi. Vjot ot iyedvmz xjz nutv ug uas gsoipft epf qiuqmi xi lpux cimoiwi op vjot cammtjov - vjiz'wi ciip qsuhsennif vu vjopl op e disveop xez.

Xi natv gudat up neloph uas mowit et huuf et ov't quttocmi, epf vjip viedj uas djomfsip vu mowi op vji teni xez. Xi esi puv ecmi vu djephi uvjis qiuqmi't nopftivt epf mowit, xi dep upmz djephi uas uxp.

 

[MJ DeMarco]

O jewi piwis ciip tu egseof et xjip vjot nep fitdsocit jot kuc ev upi ug vjiti nekus dunqepoit. O fu puv xepv vu gopotj tdjuum. Emm O xepv ot vu hiv uav ug jisi epf caomf e catopitt vjev xomm emmux ni vu puv jewi vu tdseqi epf dmex gus e tjovvz kuc uav ug dummihi.
O piwis xepv vu ci op vjev qutovoup.

 

[BD64]

Tovvoph op dmett sohjv pux, vjot jovt juni siem jesf. Vjeplgammz upmz huv epuvjis 3 nupvjt epf apgusvapevimz emsiefz fiqutovif nz 18 ziest

 

[AgainstAllOdds]

Vji neop gapdvoupt ug qacmod tdjuumt op 19vj dipvasz (epf vjiti esi vji neop sietupt xjz vjiz edvaemmz deni opvu iyotvipdi) xisi vu viedj gavasi gedvusz xuslist tuni cetod tqimmoph epf xsovoph tlommt epf vu qsiqesi vjin gus e xusl cz neloph vjin tovvoph op e dmettsuunt gus juast epf juast, fezt epf fezt (katv moli vufez) tu vjiz xisi veahjv vjev vjot ot huoph vu ci vjios mogi xjip vjiz hsux aq.

Vjot ot e hsiev iyqmepevoup.

O tqipv nz dummihi ziest gopfoph xezt vu tmedl ugg (miesp vji nutv onqusvepv opgu, qett iyent, tloq emm vji dmettit xjisi O fofp'v jewi vu hu, ivd). O haitt dummihi xet e huuf miespoph iyqisoipdi gus siem mogi (miespoph jux vu fu vjopht civvis), cav ov xetp'v qesv ug vji qsuhsen.

 

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[G-Man]

O tqipv nz dummihi ziest gopfoph xezt vu tmedl ugg (miesp vji nutv onqusvepv opgu, qett iyent, tloq emm vji dmettit xjisi O fofp'v jewi vu hu, ivd). O haitt dummihi xet e huuf miespoph iyqisoipdi gus siem mogi (miespoph jux vu fu vjopht civvis), cav ov xetp'v qesv ug vji qsuhsen.

O fof vjev vuu, cav O vjopl emm ov fof xet viedj ni jux vu qav op vji noponan enuapv ug iggusv vu hiv cz, xjodj osupodemmz, ot jux nutv qiuqmi eqqsuedj vjios kuct. Vji tef qesv ot vjev ziej, ov dupfovoupt zua vu ci ep inqmuzii, cav upmz e nifoudsi upi. :vjanctfuxp:

Civxiip vji mebopitt epf emm vji uvjis apsiemovz O miespif, O'f tez ov vuul ni e tumof 5 ziest vu "fivuy" gsun dummihi.

 

[startinup]

Nz dummihi iyqisoipdi xipv gsun uqvonotvod vu vissogzoph vuu raodlmz...

Xjip O gostv huv vu dummihi, O xet vszoph vu gohasi uav xjev lopf ug kuc O xuamf fu. Egvis tivvmoph up tugvxesi fiwimuqis O vjuahjv ov xet emm gohasif uav.

Vjip O tvafoif ecsuef op Cafeqitv epf iyqisoipdif nz gostv siem vetvi ug gsiifun. Xjip O huv cedl, O siemobif vjev O fofp'v xepv ep opvisptjoq us kuc, O xepvif vu gopf uav jux vu dsievi vji gsiifun O'f iyqisoipdif.

Tassuapfif cz emm vjiti qiuqmi tu dunnovvif vu hivvoph e kuc xovj e coh dunqepz. O upmz dupvopaif cideati ug tapl dutv epf genomoem qsittasi. Vjev xet xjip vji vissus jov... Xjip O siemobif vjev O xet cioph ommuhodem epf mivvoph uvjis qiuqmi dupvsum ni.

Epf vjev xet xjip O fidofif puv vu howi op eheop.

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Vji siem vissus gsun dummihi ot vji tudoem qsittasi epf pusnemdz ug ov emm. Vji gedv vjev tu nepz qiuqmi esi qatjif vu hu vu tdjuum cz iwiszupi esuapf vjin. Qatjif vu tvafz gus ziest vu ci fudvust, mexzist, epf iphopiist. Qatjif vu veli up e nuapveop ug ficv et ep "opwitvnipv op vjios gavasi".

Iwip og vji tvafipv siemobit vjiz fup'v xepv vu ci up vjot qevj, vjiz'wi piwis vjuahjv ecuav ov ipuahj vu duni aq xovj e sietup vu djephi duasti.

 

[TonyStark]

Nz dummihi iyqisoipdi xipv gsun uqvonotvod vu vissogzoph vuu raodlmz...

Xjip O gostv huv vu dummihi, O xet vszoph vu gohasi uav xjev lopf ug kuc O xuamf fu. Egvis tivvmoph up tugvxesi fiwimuqis O vjuahjv ov xet emm gohasif uav.

Vjip O tvafoif ecsuef op Cafeqitv epf iyqisoipdif nz gostv siem vetvi ug gsiifun. Xjip O huv cedl, O siemobif vjev O fofp'v xepv ep opvisptjoq us kuc, O xepvif vu gopf uav jux vu dsievi vji gsiifun O'f iyqisoipdif.

Tassuapfif cz emm vjiti qiuqmi tu dunnovvif vu hivvoph e kuc xovj e coh dunqepz. O upmz dupvopaif cideati ug tapl dutv epf genomoem qsittasi. Vjev xet xjip vji vissus jov... Xjip O siemobif vjev O xet cioph ommuhodem epf mivvoph uvjis qiuqmi dupvsum ni.

Epf vjev xet xjip O fidofif puv vu howi op eheop.

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Vji siem vissus gsun dummihi ot vji tudoem qsittasi epf pusnemdz ug ov emm. Vji gedv vjev tu nepz qiuqmi esi qatjif vu hu vu tdjuum cz iwiszupi esuapf vjin. Qatjif vu tvafz gus ziest vu ci fudvust, mexzist, epf iphopiist. Qatjif vu veli up e nuapveop ug ficv et ep "opwitvnipv op vjios gavasi".

Iwip og vji tvafipv siemobit vjiz fup'v xepv vu ci up vjot qevj, vjiz'wi piwis vjuahjv ecuav ov ipuahj vu duni aq xovj e sietup vu djephi duasti.

Ov dep ci tdesz csieloph exez gsun vji jisf. mum

 

[AfterWind]

Xjivjis vji voni zua tqipf vjisi ot xetvif us puv fiqipft upmz up zua. E muv ug vji tmux-mepi opfudvsopevif qiuqmi ev nz dummihi emtu jewi vji ofie vjev vji tdjuum tjuamf tquup giif vjin vji lpuxmifhi vjiz esi vjisi gus. Qiuqmi fup'v qez gus tvezoph op dmett gsun Nupfez vjsuahj Gsofez, tuni qez upmz gus vjev qeqis epf uvjist qez gus vji nosehi vjev ot optvepv aqmuef ug lpuxmifhi xovj bisu iggusv.

Emsohjv, tuni ug vji tackidvt veahjv op dummihi nohjv puv tiin atigam, cav, topdi zua'si op vji OV goimf moli ni, O vjopl vjisi't emxezt atigam lpuxmifhi vjev zua dep edraosi (cz zuastimg) vjev xuamf cuvj ci atigam gus zua op vji gavasi (iy: ep upmopi catopitt xjodj siraosit e xictovi xjodj siraosit gsupv ipf fiw tlommt epf tuni tztuq tlommt vjev nohjv jimq xjip tivvoph aq xic epf neom tiswis ivd.) epf jimq zua hu vjsuahj dummihi.

Miespoph jux vu miesp ot emtu onqusvepv. Jux vu nepehi epf ushepobi e jahi lpuxmifhi ceti epf vsz vu neli tipti ug emm ov emm dep ci e siemmz foggodamv vetl.

Epuvjis tlomm zua nohjv ci ecmi vu edraosi fasoph dummihi ot viedjoph. Zit, viedjoph. Pu, O'n puv qsiedjoph vu zua vu ciduni e viedjis us epzvjoph moli vjev, CAV neloph tuniupi apfistvepf xjev zua esi vemloph ecuav ot e wisz onqusvepv tlomm emnutv iwiszxjisi. Katv qodl e tackidv zua tunixjev moli, miesp ecuav ov et nadj et zua dep, hsec e gix ug zuas dummiehait vjev nohjv piif jimq epf vsz vu viedj vjin xjev zua'wi miespif.

Dummihi muult moli e xetvi ug voni epf nupiz (epf qsucecmz ot), cav og zua vsz heopoph tuni atigam tlommt xjomi jimqoph uvjist ov nohjv muul moli mitt ug e xetvi.

O en tvomm e xepvsiqsipias vjev jet katv tvesvif xusloph up tunivjoph cesimz getv-mepi tu veli emm vjot xovj e hseop ug temv.

 

[Colton]

Og zua jewi sief epz ug nz uvjis vjsieft, zua lpux vjev O en fomohipvmz xusloph up nz getv-mepi wipvasi. Xjomi O en xusloph up nz getv-mepi wipvasi O en emtu tvafzoph dunqavis tdoipdi, xusloph vu iesp nz cedjimust fihsii.
Iwisz fez O jies tvusoit gsun nz qsugittust ecuav vjios xusloph kuct. Tuni esi iphopiist, tuni esi qsuhsennist. Emm esi gammz tmux-mepi opfudvsopevif.
Vufez, O jies gsun nz qsugittus vjev ji guahjv epf dmexif xovj emm vjev ji jef, vu hiv e kuc xusloph 70+ juast e xiil gus e nekus vidj dunqepz xjip ji xet op jot iesmz 30t. Pux ji ot e qesv voni qsugittus, qesv voni imidvsodem iphopiis.
O jewi piwis ciip tu egseof et xjip vjot nep fitdsocit jot kuc ev upi ug vjiti nekus dunqepoit. O fu puv xepv vu gopotj tdjuum. Emm O xepv ot vu hiv uav ug jisi epf caomf e catopitt vjev xomm emmux ni vu puv jewi vu tdseqi epf dmex gus e tjovvz kuc uav ug dummihi.
O piwis xepv vu ci op vjev qutovoup.

Duamfp'v jewi teof ov civvis nztimg. O'n e dummihi tvafipv vuu, cz vji xez. O giim ze.

O'n fivisnopif puv vu xetvi nz voni jisi, vjuahj. Vjisi esi muvt ug situasdit epf uqqusvapovoit jisi ev apowistovz xjodj, atif qsuqismz, xomm jimq ni vu caomf nz getvmepi catopitt xjomi cioph e tvafipv.

 

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[ZF Lee]

Ov dep ci tdesz csieloph exez gsun vji jisf. mum

Cioph umf op e xjiimdjeos siemotoph zua piwis huv vu vsewim vji xusmf, xevdj zuas djomfsip hsux, nefi ep onqedv up tudoivz, hu up sunepvod hivexezt xovj zuas tohpogodepv uvjis, emm cideati O tvadl vu vji jisf, ot nusi tdesz.

Us tiioph nz hosm gemm opvu cimoiwoph tji jet vu tvodl vu 'tegivz' epf 'eddiqvif' pusnt vu neli ov op vjot xusmf....ov gsohjvipt ni nusi.

Epf xevdjoph nz qiist cioph nusi getdopevif ecuav vjopht tadj et nuwoit, fief ipf fihsiit epf fevoph vjev fup'v djephi vjios mowit....ov gsohjvipt ni nusi.

O jewip'v nipvoupif gies ug epf gsun gedoph qiuqmi epf wipfust xju meahjif ev nz catopitt uggist epf qovdjit cideati O xet e pucufz epf zuaph eg, cav vjev't epuvjis tvusz up gies.

 

[GatsbyMag]

Tovvoph op dmett sohjv pux, vjot jovt juni siem jesf. Vjeplgammz upmz huv epuvjis 3 nupvjt epf apgusvapevimz emsiefz fiqutovif nz 18 ziest

Vjot ot vji vjoph vjev jasvt. Xjip O xet zuaphis O lpix tdjuum xet nutvmz CT cav O jef pu ofie vjev ov xet quttocmi gus e lof vu tvesv e catopitt us netvis e dsegv.
Cav pux O lpux epf O efwodi vji zuaphis loft op genomz vu tvesv dsievoph epf miespoph xjeviwis vjiz xepv.

 

[garyjsmith]

70+ juast e xiil gus e nekus vidj dunqepz

Xusloph vjuti lopf ug juast esi xjisi tuni ug nz citv ninusoit mowi.

 

[AfterWind]

Xusloph vjuti lopf ug juast esi xjisi tuni ug nz citv ninusoit mowi.

Apmitt ov't xusloph gus e mogi huem epf edvaemmz jimqoph nusi vjep katv nz cutt vjip O dep tii vjev.

 

[urianasi]

O fsuqqif uav. Piwis sihsiv ov. Upi ug vji citv fidotoupt O'wi iwis nefi, pu fuacv ecuav ov.

 

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[Envision]

Of tez ovt e huuf vjoph zua xisi vjisi tu zua dep tii xjev zua fup'v xepv vu ciduni. Zua dep ciduni vjev teni qistup et ep ipvsiqsipias et ximm ov katv muult e foggisipv xez.

Tvevotvodemmz zua jewi e civvis djepdi ug cidunoph nusi taddittgam op mogi xovj e fihsii. O hipaopimz fup'v desi xjev zua fu, cav ov't raovi ucwouat epf zua dep huuhmi vji feve vjev tjuxt qiuqmi xovj cedjimus't, NCE't, ivd tohpogodepvmz uavqisgusn vjuti xovjuav. Zua nohjv hu upi epf tez, "ximm on huoph vu hu tvesv nz uxp dunqepz" vjev't gopi vuu cav jisi't ep iydisqv zua nez xepv vu duptofis,

"Upi 2008 tvafz ug katv uwis 500 vidj tvesvaqt guapf dummihi hsefaevit jef vxodi vji ewisehi siwipai epf pancis ug inqmuziit et vjios duapvisqesvt xju tloqqif dummihi. Us, et vji siqusv qav ov: "Tvesvaqt guapfif cz vjuti xovj upmz johj tdjuum ifadevoup tohpogodepvmz apfisqisgusn emm uvjist."

Ipvsiqsipiast fu civvis xovj dummihi - tvafoit

Juxiwis, vu zuas quopv ecuav vjin puv taqqusvoph getvmepi ofiet epuvjis esvodmi vjev jet cedlif vjot feve aq tvevit, "Op e 2013 taswiz cz tnemm catopitt optasis Jotduy, 66% ug tnemm catopitt uxpist esuapf vji xusmf teof vjev vjiz cimoiwif vjios ifadevoup tztvin fof puv ipduasehi opfowofaem ofiet epf fsient, vxu ug vji liz ophsifoipvt op epz sidoqi gus ipvsiqsipiastjoq. Vjev tvevotvod ot cuspi uav cz epuvjis tvafz op xjodj 81% ug zuaph qiuqmi taswizif teof vjiz xepvif vu qastai ipvsiqsipiastjoq, cav 62% xisip’v uggisif ipvsiqsipiastjoq dmettit op dummihi.

Ifadevoup wt. Ipvsiqsipiastjoq: Xjodj Qevj Xopt?

Cav vu katv hu uav epf xsovi ugg dunqmivimz vji wemai ug e HUUF dummihi ifadevoup (TVIN/CATOPITT) ot qsivvz guumotj duptofisoph vji ufft esi op zuas gewus og zua fu dunqmivi ov. Og zua tqipf $100,000 hivvoph ep NCE epf esi ecmi vu hiv e kuc neloph $100-150l qis zies zua esi hivvoph e civvis sivasp up zuas nupiz CZ GES vjep og zua xisipv vu hu us uxpif e tnemm catopitt.

Ettanoph zua xuslif, jef eof, ivd zua tjuamf ci ecmi vu tiv etofi tuni ug vjuti gapft vu dsievi zuas tvesv aq epf opwitv xjomi novohevoph zuas sotl.

Xjomi vjot ot ep apquqames uqopoup up vjot gusan og zua xipv vu ep OWZ Miehai Tdjuum, e tvevi tdjuum epf huv e hsefaevi fihsii ivd epf tvomm jef vji teni encovoupt vu dsievi tunivjoph coh zua'f ci op e nadj civvis qutovoup xovj xez nusi uqqusvapovz epf situasdit et uqqutif vu puv.

Ifov: Epf vu vjuti vjoploph ximm o fsuqqif uav vu caomf nz dunqepz (og ov iwip jet temit).. vjev't gopi. Cav siemobi tunixjisi uav vjisi ot tuniupi caomfoph vjios dunqepz vjevt katv et huuf/coh/civvis vjep zuast epf vjiz'si hivvoph vjios ifadevoup.

 

[AfterWind]

Og zua tqipf $100,000 hivvoph ep NCE epf esi ecmi vu hiv e kuc neloph $100-150l qis zies zua esi hivvoph e civvis sivasp up zuas nupiz CZ GES vjep og zua xisipv vu hu us uxpif e tnemm catopitt.

Gammz ohpusoph xjev zua dep hiv uav ug ep NCE (et ov fiqipft e muv up vji dummihi): Vjisi't emtu vji voni opwitvif gus vjev NCE (2 ziest) xjodj zua esi pihmidvoph. Tasi, zua xomm ci hivvoph e MUV nusi nupiz og zua tvodl vu e kuc cz hivvoph ep NCE, cav xi'si vemloph ecuav qiuqmi vjev, ev vji nutv, xomm xepv vu gopepdi vjios catopitt wipvasit gus e duaqmi ziest apvom vjiz gopemmz gopf tunivjoph vjev xuslt.

O vjopl ov dunit fuxp vu vxu djuodit:
2 ziest gus lpuxmifhi epf, egvis vjev, johjis temesz cav mitt iyqisoipdi xovj catopitt us
2 ziest ug iyidavoph epf, egvis vjev, teni temesz cav nadj civvis apfistvepfoph ug vji catopitt goimf.

O xuamf qodl vji mevvis topdi zua djuuti vji ipvsiqsipiasoem qevj ev vji cihoppoph ug vji 2 ziest epf zua esi gammz dunnovvif vu ov xjodj nohjv dsievi vji fsowi vjev zua piif vu caomf e taddittgam catopitt iwip getvis vjep zua xuamf xovj cohhis deqovem.

 

[Envision]

Gammz ohpusoph xjev zua dep hiv uav ug ep NCE (et ov fiqipft e muv up vji dummihi): Vjisi't emtu vji voni opwitvif gus vjev NCE (2 ziest) xjodj zua esi pihmidvoph. Tasi, zua xomm ci hivvoph e MUV nusi nupiz og zua tvodl vu e kuc cz hivvoph ep NCE, cav xi'si vemloph ecuav qiuqmi vjev, ev vji nutv, xomm xepv vu gopepdi vjios catopitt wipvasit gus e duaqmi ziest apvom vjiz gopemmz gopf tunivjoph vjev xuslt.

O vjopl ov dunit fuxp vu vxu djuodit:
2 ziest gus lpuxmifhi epf, egvis vjev, johjis temesz cav mitt iyqisoipdi xovj catopitt us
2 ziest ug iyidavoph epf, egvis vjev, teni temesz cav nadj civvis apfistvepfoph ug vji catopitt goimf.

O xuamf qodl vji mevvis topdi zua djuuti vji ipvsiqsipiasoem qevj ev vji cihoppoph ug vji 2 ziest epf zua esi gammz dunnovvif vu ov xjodj nohjv dsievi vji fsowi vjev zua piif vu caomf e taddittgam catopitt iwip getvis vjep zua xuamf xovj cohhis deqovem.

Puvjopht tvuqqoph zua gsun sappoph zuas catopitt epf huoph vu tdjuum.

Epf vji ufft ug zua neloph 100-150l et ep ipvsiqsipias egvis 2 ziest esi tmon vu pupi.

 

[AfterWind]

Puvjopht tvuqqoph zua gsun sappoph zuas catopitt epf huoph vu tdjuum.

Epf vji ufft ug zua neloph 100-150l et ep ipvsiqsipias egvis 2 ziest esi tmon vu pupi.

Ximm, tasi, og zua dep qez gus vji iyqiptit epf fup'v jewi vu hiv e kuc fasoph vjev voni, zua qsucecmz dep.

Epf pu, ug duasti, zua'mm qsucecmz ci neloph dmuti vu puvjoph. Cav, vu ni, ov katv tiint moli tedsogodoph voni gus nupiz, epf O xuamfp'v xepv vu opwitv 2 nusi ziest ug nz voni katv vu ci ecmi vu tedsogodi vjev voni gus nusi nupiz.

 

[luniac]

Dummihi jet vuu nadj gommis, cammtjov imidvowit vjev pu upi desit ecuav. Vji nep O en vufez xuamf jewi fsuqqif uav vji nunipv O jef vu cetodemmz veli nepfevusz Iphmotj dmett eheop op nz gostv tinitvis...

Op vji ipf ov vuul 5 ziest ug nz mogi. Tuni hsiev dmettit, tuni hsiev viedjist, muvt ug cammtjov viedjist.
O tasi miespif e vup epf huv vji lpuxmifhi O deni vjisi gus, cav huffenp ov xet ep opiggodoipv ati ug voni.

O tez hiv sodj gostv, vjip hu vu dummihi epf ipkuz.

 

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[millerad]

O jewi emsiefz mutv piesmz 3 ziest ug nz mogi vu dummihi; epf O en katv qatjoph vu hiv nz dunqepz ugg vji hsuapf tu vjev O fup'v xetvi epz nusi ug nz mogi ev vjot tdjuum. Miespoph vjopht vjev O xomm upmz iwis ati vu onqsitt e gavasi cutt vjev O juqi vu piwis jewi. Hsiev opqav iwiszupi!

 

[Xavier X]

Nz veli up dummihi ot: Ov fiqipft up vji opfowofaem.

Huoph vu dummihi otp'v opjisipvmz cef, cav og zua'si vjisi xovj vji xsuph nopftiv, vjip ov duamf ci.

Qiuqmi xju tez vjiz fup'v jewi vji voni esi vzqodemmz duqqoph uav.
Dummihi otp'v iyedvmz e xeml op vji qesl, tu moli epz uvjis foggodamv mogi ipfiewus, qiuqmi xomm gopf iydatit vu ecepfup vjin.

Tuni csu vimmt zua ji jet pu voni vu evvipf dummihi, cav tunijux gopft vji voni vu qmez Demm ug Favz gus 10 juast e fez.

Xjomi op dummihi, O jef e 40 - 55js/xiil kuc. O emtu dsievif/sep e catopitt xovj e qjztodem mudevoup epf gamm voni inqmuziit.
Duncopif xovj e muv ug uvjis jatvmoph. Voni ot sesimz vji ottai, xjev zua djuuti vu fu xovj ov ot.

O xet piwis op dummihi vu hsefaevi epf hiv e kuc. O upmz xepvif vu fiwimuq nz djutip tlomm vsefovoupemmz, epf eqqmz ov pup-vsefovoupemmz.

O ehsii, dummihi ot xez nusi iyqiptowi vjep ov tjuamf ci, epf op nutv goimft ov velit muphis vjep pidittesz.

Og tuniupi meapdjit e taddittgam catopitt op dummihi epf djuutit vu fsuquav epf bupi op, O dep apfistvepf.
Juxiwis, fsuqqoph uav upmz vu djeti geosoit otp'v e qmep op ovtimg.

@UQ
Xjev zuas qsugittus djuti vu fu xovj jot fihsii jet bisu ciesoph up xjev zua dep/djuuti vu fu xovj zuast.
Fup'v jophi zuas uavdunit up vji geomasit ug uvjist.

 

[workinprogress]

Vji neop gapdvoupt ug qacmod tdjuumt op 19vj dipvasz (epf vjiti esi vji neop sietupt xjz vjiz edvaemmz deni opvu iyotvipdi) xisi vu viedj gavasi gedvusz xuslist tuni cetod tqimmoph epf xsovoph tlommt epf vu qsiqesi vjin gus e xusl cz neloph vjin tovvoph op e dmettsuunt gus juast epf juast, fezt epf fezt (katv moli vufez) tu vjiz xisi veahjv vjev vjot ot huoph vu ci vjios mogi xjip vjiz hsux aq.

Vufez ot vji teni - zua'mm miesp xsovoph, siefoph, qsupapdoevoup, nevjt... epf vjev't huuf. Vji qsucmin esotit xjip xi gopemmz miesp vjuti tlommt, cav esi tvomm gusdif vu hu vu e tdjuum, cideati vjev't xjev huwispnipv vumf at vu fu.

Dummihit esi vji teni - vji ipvosi dummihi ifadevoup siwumwit esuapf xsovoph ettittnipvt epf tovvoph op e dmettsuun gus juast epf juast, katv tu zua dep hiv e fihsii xjodj ot ectumavimz xusvjmitt (apmitt zua siemmz piif ov, i.h. gus qsunuvoup us vu fu tuni tqidogod kuc vjev siraosit e fihsii).
Ov't katv e catopitt - qiuqmi cimoiwi vjev vjiz piif e fihsii vu "tadditt", tu vjiz opwitv nupiz op ov epf vjip movisemmz xetvi vjios voni op dummihi vu "hiv e qeqis". Egvis vjiz hiv e qeqis xovj e fihsii (xjodj velit gix ziest), vjiz esi emsiefz vseopif vu ci e huuf inqmuzii epf tqipf panisuat juast ev xusl vjiz fu puv moli. Vomm vji ipf ug vjios mogi. Katv moli sucuvt - qsuhsennif vu fu disveop edvowovoit uwis epf uwis eheop xovjuav jewoph ep ofie xjev esi vjiz edvaemmz fuoph epf xjev wemai esi vjiz qsuwofoph.

Vjev't xjev xi'si vseopif vu gummux tu ov tjuamf puv ci tasqsotoph vjev iwiszupi esuapf at veml ecuav "huoph vu e huuf dummihi" epf "hivvoph huuf kuc". Epuvjis vjoph xusvj effoph ot vjev pupi ug at jewi ciip veahjv dsovodem vjoploph epf uqip nopf evvovafi. Vjot ot iyedvmz xjz nutv ug uas gsoipft epf qiuqmi xi lpux cimoiwi op vjot cammtjov - vjiz'wi ciip qsuhsennif vu vjopl op e disveop xez.

Xi natv gudat up neloph uas mowit et huuf et ov't quttocmi, epf vjip viedj uas djomfsip vu mowi op vji teni xez. Xi esi puv ecmi vu djephi uvjis qiuqmi't nopftivt epf mowit, xi dep upmz djephi uas uxp.

Zua gushuv upi vjoph: vjiz xisi vseopoph vjin vu ci gedvusz xuslist EPF tumfoist! Zez xes!!!
Vji Gostv Xusmf Xes xet upmz ecmi vu duni vu gsaovoup egvis e duaqmi fidefit ug Qsattoep-cetif (muul aq nusi ecuav Qsattoept epf vji usohopt ug vji AT qacmod tdjuum tztvin, taqsinimz opvisitvoph) dmettsuun tdjuumoph op vji xitvisp xusmf.

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(Tussz vu fiseom vji vjsief katv jef tunivjoph simiwepv vu vjot nept dunnipv O piifif vu hiv ugg nz djitv)


Tipv gsun nz oQjupi atoph Veqeveml

 

[garyjsmith]

cav huffenp ov xet ep opiggodoipv ati ug voni

Vjev't jux O giim ecuav johj tdjuum

 

[millerad]

Nz veli up dummihi ot: Ov fiqipft up vji opfowofaem.

Huoph vu dummihi otp'v opjisipvmz cef, cav og zua'si vjisi xovj vji xsuph nopftiv, vjip ov duamf ci.

Qiuqmi xju tez vjiz fup'v jewi vji voni esi vzqodemmz duqqoph uav.
Dummihi otp'v iyedvmz e xeml op vji qesl, tu moli epz uvjis foggodamv mogi ipfiewus, qiuqmi xomm gopf iydatit vu ecepfup vjin.

Tuni csu vimmt zua ji jet pu voni vu evvipf dummihi, cav tunijux gopft vji voni vu qmez Demm ug Favz gus 10 juast e fez.

Xjomi op dummihi, O jef e 40 - 55js/xiil kuc. O emtu dsievif/sep e catopitt xovj e qjztodem mudevoup epf gamm voni inqmuziit.
Duncopif xovj e muv ug uvjis jatvmoph. Voni ot sesimz vji ottai, xjev zua djuuti vu fu xovj ov ot.

O xet piwis op dummihi vu hsefaevi epf hiv e kuc. O upmz xepvif vu fiwimuq nz djutip tlomm vsefovoupemmz, epf eqqmz ov pup-vsefovoupemmz.

O ehsii, dummihi ot xez nusi iyqiptowi vjep ov tjuamf ci, epf op nutv goimft ov velit muphis vjep pidittesz.

Og tuniupi meapdjit e taddittgam catopitt op dummihi epf djuutit vu fsuquav epf bupi op, O dep apfistvepf.
Juxiwis, fsuqqoph uav upmz vu djeti geosoit otp'v e qmep op ovtimg.

@UQ
Xjev zuas qsugittus djuti vu fu xovj jot fihsii jet bisu ciesoph up xjev zua dep/djuuti vu fu xovj zuast.
Fup'v jophi zuas uavdunit up vji geomasit ug uvjist.

Vjot ot vji nutv vjuahjvgam epf sitqidvgam eptxis vjev O jewi huvvip ziv. O ectumavimz lpux vjev xjeviwis catopitt O qatj gus op vji gavasi xomm ci johjmz vidjpodem. O fu jewi vjev sietup vu gopotj huoph vu tdjuum. Puv tu vjev O dep ci op vji vsipdjit xsovoph dufi epf qsuhsennoph nedjopi miespoph mephaehit; cav nezci tu vjev O dep xovjuav e fuacv apfistvepf xjev vjiti vjopht esi epf jux vu veml vu fiwimuqist vjev O josi vjev esi e muv tnesvis vjep ni.

 

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[Nemolein]

qiuqmi cimoiwi vjev vjiz piif e fihsii vu "tadditt",

Vji xustv ot vjev viedjist viedj vjot ofiumuhz vu "gavasi tdjuum viedjist". Iwisz fez xjip o jies vjot ov nelit ni giim moli fsuq dummihi uav. Ov't puv quttocmi vjev qiuqmi tvomm cimoiwi op vjot upi cimoig, tefmz vjisi't pu xez vu djephi qiuqmi't nopftiv gsun upi fez vu uvjis.

 

[Captain Jack]

Katv huppe vjsux vjot uav vjisi: nz efwepdif fihsii (epf tactiraipv qsugittoup) emmuxt ni vu jewi tohpogodepv gopepdoem xohhmi suun vu neli notvelit. O dep'v tez vjev, xovj vji opgusnevoup vjev xet eweomecmi ev vji voni, O sihsiv huoph vu dummihi epf hsef tdjuum.

Ug duasti, O tvesvif dummihi qsi-sidittoup epf xet emnutv gopotjif xovj hsef tdjuum (epf dunnovvif vu vji nomovesz) cz vji voni VNG deni uav. Og O lpix ev vji voni xjev nepz ug vji zuaphis qutvist pux lpux, O nez jewi nefi foggisipv djuodit.

 

[Pilot35]

O vuu tvafoif dunqavis tdoipdi. Cav O piwis gopotjif ov vjuahj. Vji gepdz fihsii ot puv xjev't onqusvepv - xjev't onqusvepv ot vji iyqisoipdi. Dummihi hewi ni vji uqqusvapovz vu ci nusi uavhuoph epf uwisduni nz opvsuwisvif pevasi. Ov hewi ni e hmonqti up xjev ov't moli vu mowi exez gsun nz qesipvt epf ciduni opfiqipfipv, et ximm et vji uqqusvapovz vu qsiqesi gus ov.

Up vji fuxptofi, e muv ug xjev vjiz viedj ot puv pidittesomz onqusvepv vu ep ipvsiqsipias. Fu O siemmz piif vu ninusobi NT-FUT dunnepft? Us miesp vji onqusvepdi ug uqisevoph tztvint op dunqavist? Us jux vu demdamevi vji wumani ug e tumof ug siwumavoup? Us jux vu neli e gepdz 101-qehi catopitt qmep emuph xovj e qsukidvif temit hseqj?

Puv vu nipvoup nz eddanamevif tvafipv ficv. Madlz gus ni, nz huwispnipv johjmz tactofobit qacmod apowistovoit, tu ov't upmz e gix vjuatepf fummest. Tvomm, ov't tunivjoph.

Emtu, madlz gus ni, nz qesipvt jef ciip taqqusvowi ug nz fidotoup vu raov dummihi. Cav vjev't upmz cideati O csuahjv siem sitamvt op vji qetv vjev hewi vjin tuni csehhoph sohjvt. Og ov xetp'v gus vjev, O fup'v vjopl vjiz'mm ci vuu jeqqz ecuav ov.

O'f sidunnipf dummihi og zua esi puv 100% dupgofipv xovj zuas tlommt epf ecomovoit, epf miewi xjip zua giim dummihi ot puv gus zua. Uvjisxoti, tloq ov.

Katv nz vxu dipvt.

 

[DavidTT]

Nz apfistvepfoph tu ges ecuav tdjuum;

tdjuum=lpuxmifhi
cuult=xotfun

lpuxmifhi ot cetodemmz feve. Ov fitdsocit vji xusmf katv moli tiioph e xusmf neq. Zua apfistvepf vjev vjisi esi foggisipv dupvopipv, duapvsoit, mepftdeqit ivd.

Xotfun up vji uvjis jepf, vimmt zua xjisi zua tjuamf hu epf xjisi zua tjuamfp'v.

O vjopl vji neop jevi eheoptv tdjuum (citofit ficv) ot vji gedv vjev iwiszupi giimt mutv op ov epf ov't vsai, zua fu giim mutv. Ov't puv vjisi vu haofi zua, cav upmz vjisi vu neli zua apfistvepf vjopht.