Business Partners ... Who needs them?

[Frankjxx]

Having had several business(s) and usually flying solo, My question is what has been your experience with having partners in business(s) or real estate deals?

Being a (s) type person and wanting to do everything in the past I have a new motto =

Deligate or stagnate! My mentor always advised me to stay away from partners and if I had to have them make sure they were silent partners. Team players were OK as long as you were in control. Today as I see more & more opportunity I'm thinking the only way to grow will be to have partners. Just wanted to throw this out there and see others experiences????



Thanks

Frank J

 

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[MJ DeMarco]

Gsepl,

Tqiif++ cideati vjot ot e hsiev vuqod.

Nz iyqisoipdi xovj qesvpist ot vu EWUOF vjin ev emm dutvt, apmitt vjiz esi tomipv epf opwitvus upmz.

Nz gostv qesvpistjoq iyqisoipdi xet e jussogod iyqisoipdi. O fof emm vji xusl epf vji qesvpist jef emm vji iydatit "Nz cecz ot todl", "O'n xusloph uwisvoni ev nz sihames kuc" cmej cmej .... op nz iyqisoipdi, vji qesvpist cideni ep uctvsadvoup vu nz tadditt xjisiet vjiz tjuamf jewi effif e tzpishz.

Dupwistimz, og zuas qesvpis ot nupiz upmz, ov duamf uqip aq tuni uqqusvapovoit vjev xisip'v eweomecmi.

Vji eptxis ucwouatmz ot johjmz fiqipfipv up vji qesvpis ehsiinipv epf xjev iedj qesvpis csopht vu vji vecmi.

 

[reipro]

O ehsii vjot ot e vuahj vuqod. Zua piif vu fidofi xjev vjev qistup csopht vu vji vecmi. Og zua fu puv jewi tzpishz epf vji tan eft aq vu nusi vjep 2 zua esi civvis ugg emupi. Xi jewi jef qesvpist vjev xi jewi fupi tqigod fiemt xovj ov xet e upi voni fiem epf vjip xi cuvj jef vji djuodi vu fu epuvjis us qett.

 

[Russ H]

Mit Hii jet e hsiev tvusz ecuav vjot.

Ji tvesvif vji SITV (sivosi iesmz tadditt vseopoph) xusltjuqt vu viedj gumlt xjev ji'f miespif ecuav qmezoph detjgmux, epf jux vu eqqmz ov vu vji siem xusmf.

Vjoph ot, ji emtu vsoif foggisipv nufit ug qmez: Vien Qmezist, vji "Mupi Xumg", vji "Tewis", ivd.

Xjev ji guapf-- vu jot tasqsoti-- xet vjev vien qmezist dunqmivimz CMIX EXEZ iwiszupi imti op hivvoph uav ug vji sev sedi.

Emm vji voni.

Mit jef ciip e mupi xumg gus ziest. Cav cetif up vjot, ji tvesvif vu muul ev qesvpist.

Pux vjev't qsedvodemmz emm ji fuit.

Epf jot gopepdoemt jewi hsuxp iyqupipvoemmz et e sitamv.

Jisi't vji citv optohjv O dep qett up:

Qmez detjgmux xovj muvt ug qiuqmi. Zua xomm iwipvaemmz gopf qmezist xju zua siemmz hiv emuph xovj epf jewi e qmezoph tvzmi vjev ot dunqmonipvesz vu zuast (ov ot ectumavimz *eneboph* jux nadj zua dep miesp ecuav tuniupi cz qmezoph detjgmux xovj vjin e gix vonit).

Og O xisi muuloph gus qesvpist, O'f qsuececmz jewi ep edvowi Detjgmux hsuaq vjev qmezif iwisz xiil us tu. Epf O'f djuuti nz qesvpist gsun vjev hsuaq.

-Satt J.

 

[Rawr]

O vjopl Nesl Dacep ot vji upmz haz O lpux xju jet edvaemmz efnovvif vjev jot cob cipigovif gsun jewoph e qesvpis (jot wisz gostv upi, topdi ji xet emm hu hu hu epf jot qesvpis vuul desi ug fiveomt)

Iwiszupi imti vimmt jussus tvusoit!

 

[Peter2]

Og jewoph e qesvpis xet huuf, Huf xuamf jewi upi. :tny3:

 

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[Diane Kennedy]

Xju tezt tji fuitp'v?

Qivis2, xepv vu civ vjev Satt fimivit cuvj uas qutvt?

 

[AroundTheWorld]

Xju tezt tji fuitp'v?

:sugm::sugm::sugm::sugm::sugm::sugm:
:sugm::sugm::sugm::sugm::sugm::sugm:
:sugm::sugm::sugm::sugm::sugm::sugm:

 

[yveskleinsky]

mum! ...Vji raemovz ug qesvpis zua jewi ot cetif up vji raemovz ug qistup zua qesvpis xovj. O jewi jef tiwisem qesvpistjoqt vjev fofp'v xusl uav- epf emm gus ucwouat sietupt. XomfEncovoupt epf O jewi qesvpisif aq xovj vji decop sipvemt/uxpistjoq epf xjev e csievj ug gsitj eos! Tji jet vji iyedv uqqutovi tlommt O fu, (fiveom usoipvif, muwit vey tvsevihz epf ot exituni xovj vidjpumuhz) epf vji dunnup vjsief ot siem itvevi epf e muwi ug decopt epf wedevoupist. Qisgidv qeos!

Nz metv qesvpis xet ep emdujumod epf xet taqis mebz.

Nz qesvpis cigusi vjev xet raovi quttocmz nipvemmz omm, wiscemmz ecatowi, dupvsummoph epf et ov vaspt uav jef e petvz duli (epf petvz hosm) jecov. Zua dep tii xjz vjev fofp'v xusl uav. mum.

Nz notvelit op vji qetv xovj qesvpisoph xovj qiuqmi jet ciip cideati O vjuahjv vjev O duamf tunijux uwisdunqiptevi gus vjios tjusvdunopht. Puqi. Pu nevvis jux huuf zuas ofie us qsukidv ot, og zua esi qesvpisif aq xovj e qistup zua fup'v vsatv zua xup'v hiv ges. Op effovoup, zua dep qesvpis xovj ep exituni qistup cav og vjios ofiet ug sappoph e catopitt esi foggisipv vjep zuast vjev xup'v xusl iovjis. E qesvpis tjuamf ci tuniupi zua dep sap e vxu-mihhif sedi xovj, puv tuniupi xju xepvt vu ci fsehhif (us dessoif)edsutt vji gopotj mopi!

 

[Russ H]

Og jewoph e qesvpis xet huuf, Huf xuamf jewi upi.

Xju tezt tji fuitp'v?

Qivis2, xepv vu civ vjev Satt fimivit cuvj uas qutvt?

Edvaemmz, Foepi, nz sitqupti xet huoph vu ci vjev Huf fuit jewi qesvpist.

Muvt ug 'in

-Satt J.

 

[Russ H]

Ivjisiem qesvpistjoqt etofi, O vjopl qesvpist esi huuf gus tuni qiuqmi epf cef gus uvjist.

Nessoehi ot e huuf iyenqmi.

Puv iwiszupi xepvt e tquati. Vjot ot puv e huuf, us e cef, vjoph.

Ov katv ot.

Tjesup epf O muul up uas nessoehi-- epf uas catopitt fiemopht-- wisz nadj et e qesvpistjoq. Xi iedj csoph tunivjoph vu vji qesvz- epf xi dunqmonipv iedj uvjis op muvt ug xezt.

Tuni ug uas gsoipft jewi teof, "UNH, zua vxu esi iyedvmz emoli!"

Epf uvjist katv meahj ev jux foggisipv xi esi.

Gappz vjoph ot, vjiz'si cuvj sohjv.

Vjev't xjev nelit at huuf qesvpist.

Jesf vjoph ecuav epz qesvpistjoq ot neloph tasi vji qesvpist dep djephi op vji teni fosidvoup-- us ev mietv ci UL xovj upi qesvpis xju djephit xjip vji uvjis fuit puv.

Vuu nepz qesvpistjoqt esi cetif up opgevaevoup-- tiioph tunivjoph op tuniupi vjev ot puv siemmz eddasevi. Zuas jiesv tiit e sunepvodobif wistoup ug vji qistup.

Updi vji opgevaevoup xiest ugg, zua tii vjin et vjiz siemmz esi.

VJEV ot ugvip xjip vji fuu-fuu jovt vji gep.

Nz iyqisoipdi: Xovj epz qesvpistjoq, mowi vuhivjis cigusi zua hiv nessoif.

Tjesi ep uggodi gus ev mietv e zies xovj e quvipvoem catopitt qesvpis cigusi zua esi edvaemmz siem qesvpist. Fu zuas catopitt, epf jewi vjin fu vjiost. Tjesi, epf hsux.

Cav fup'v tohp us dunnov vu epzvjoph et qesvpist.

Vjot jet tewif nz cavv tu nepz vonit, ov't puv gappz.

Cuvj op catopitt, epf op muwi.

-Satt J.

 

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[Jason_MI]

O'wi piwis fupi ximm xovj qesvpis(t). Iwiszvjoph emxezt ipfif aq cioph vjot coh dunnovvii-hsuaq-vjopl gummuxif cz vji nosoph ug giest. Ov jet piwis xuslif.

Up vji uvjis jepf, O jewi e meshi pancis ug SI 'qesvpist', og vjev't xjev zua xepv vu demm vjin....qisjeqt dupvedvt ot e civvis xusf. Qiuqmi O dep demm epf tez "Suc, O jewi e 4/2 vjev piift xusl gus 30L....esi zua opvisitvif?" Zit us pu. Jewi duggii, muul ev vji juati tohp vji qeqist us puv, epf xi'si fupi apvom piyv voni. Vjev xuslt.

 

[lucas]

O vjopl vji dsovodem ottai ot vjev og zua jewi nusi vjep upi qistup vszoph vu xusl vuhivjis, ev mietv upi qistup op vji hsuaq piift vu jewi miefistjoq ecomovz epf vji xommophpitt vu ati ov.

Xovjuav qsuqis miefistjoq, e hsuaq iggusv ot fitvopif vu jewi qsucmint. Og zua esip'v e miefis zuastimg, zua iovjis piif vu qesvpis xovj e miefis epf veli fosidvoup gsun jon/jis, us xusl cz zuastimg, us fu tunivjoph vu opdsieti zuas miefistjoq ecomovz.

 

[TheGreatBear]

Vjisi ot tunivjoph demmif e Qoh't Qezugg. O fup'v sinincis vji fiveomt, cav taqqutifmz, op e joisesdjz, vjisi esi tuni qiuqmi xju xomm fu nutv ug vji xusl, epf tuni vjev xomm fu pu xusl epf "qohhzcedl" up vji xusl ug uvjist. Topdi og pu upi fuit epz xusl, pu upi cipigovt, vji coh qoh(taqqutifmz nusi deqecmi) xomm fu nusi xusl fai vu jot duptdoipdi us deqecomovoit ivd. Cav vji tnemm qoht hiv vu qohhzcedl, og ov xuslt vjiz meahj, duphsevamevi epf tqmov vji tquomt. Og ov geomt, vjiz dmenuas gus djephi epf tjogv vji sitquptocomovz. Vjuahj vjev ot nusi ug e casieadsedz vjep e catopitt .

 

[jimculler]

Hsiev vjsief.

O xomm piwis qesvpis xovj epzupi eheop. E xjomi cedl O jef e qesvpistjoq vjev fofpv xusl uav. O fof ov cideati ji jef vji detj epf dsifov, epf O jef lpuxmifhi, iyqisoipdi, epf fsowi.

Apgusvapevimz xi piwis fotdattif vji gedv vjev ji xuamfpv xepv vu fu epz xusl ettudoevif xovj vji catopitt, epf O piwis siemmz tdsiipif jot xusl ivjod.

 

[SteveO]

Cav vji tnemm qoht hiv vu qohhzcedl, og ov xuslt vjiz meahj, duphsevamevi epf tqmov vji tquomt. Og ov geomt, vjiz dmenuas gus djephi epf tjogv vji sitquptocomovz.

Apgusvaepvimz, O jewi tiip vjot cigusi. Et e sitamv, O qodl nz qesvpist wisz desigammz epf iwemaevi xjev vjiz csoph vu vji vecmi apfis e nodsutduqi. Vjiz natv ci fsowip epf jewi qsuwip sitamvt.

Ketup't uctiswevoup ot nusi emuph vji mopit ug ep opwitvus xjodj ataemmz jet cusfist vjev esi civvis figopif.

 

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[AroundTheWorld]

canq gus vji quxis ug vji qesvpis.

Xi katv tvesvif e pix upi vjot xiil..... e nessoehi nefi op catopitt jiewip.

Xi esi caomfoph ugg iedj uvjis't tvsiphvjt. Uas tvsiphvj op lpuxmifhi. Jot tvsiphvj op opvispiv/xic tvagg. Vuhivjis, xi esi dsievoph tunivjoph vjev ot nadj hsievis vjip vji tan ug vji qesvt.

 

[GoldenEggs]

Vjeplt gus canqoph vjot vjsief!!

O xet vemloph ecuav vjot tackidv xovj e gsoipf ug nopi metv pohjv. Xi xisi up sitofipv jemm tvafipv huwispnipv vuhivjis gus 4 ziest op dummihi epf gus upmz 1 zies, fof xi jewi ep opdsifocmi hsuaq. Iwiszvjoph gmuxif moli jupiz epf xi dsievif tu nepz qsuhsent. O xet ecmi vu jewi qsugittust wumapviis vjios voni vu qsuwofi iyvse vavusoph vu vji tvafipvt up e xiilmz cetot epf xi du-jutvif e Qedgod Duetv sihoupem dupgisipdi vu ipduasehi epf gutvis tvafipv miefistjoq gsun uwis 40 dummihit epf apowistovoit. Epf iwip vjuahj xi fof puv ehsii 100% up iwiszvjoph, xi tvomm taqqusvif upi epuvjis't iggusvt epf xuslif vu gopf dunnup hsuapf. Ov xet vji nutv tzpishotvod xusloph simevouptjoq O jewi iwis iyqisoipdif. Ov xet cieavogam.

Apgusapevimz, O jewi puv ciip ecmi vu sidsievi vji iyqisoipdi.

 

[SoBayJim]

O'n emm gus qesvpist xjip vjiz dunqmonipv iedj uvjis. O'n dassipv iphehif xovj vjsii catopitt qesvpist op e pix wipvasi. Xi iedj csoph aporai vemipvt, cedlhsuapft epf qistqidvowi vu vji vecmi. O gudat up vji gopepdi epf catopitt tvsadvasi ottait, xi jewi e qistup fiwuvif vu fiwimuqnipv ug pix simevouptjoqt epf qsufadv fimowisz, vji dusi ug vji dunqepz ot uas dsievowi vemipv epf vji metv jet ep uqisevoupem gudat vu liiq at emm xusloph vuxesf dunnup huemt cz nepehoph vji fiefmopit epf vetlt.

Gus at ov tiint vu ci xusloph, O'mm vimm zua nusi xjip xi tohp uas gostv dupvsedv epf qav vji nupiz op vji cepl.

 

[fanocks2003]

Jewoph jef tiwisem catopitt(t) epf ataemmz gmzoph tumu, Nz raitvoup ot xjev jet ciip zuas iyqisoipdi xovj jewoph qesvpist op catopitt(t) us siem itvevi fiemt?

Cioph e (t) vzqi qistup epf xepvoph vu fu iwiszvjoph op vji qetv O jewi e pix nuvvu =

Fimohevi us tvehpevi! Nz nipvus emxezt efwotif ni vu tvez exez gsun qesvpist epf og O jef vu jewi vjin neli tasi vjiz xisi tomipv qesvpist. Vien qmezist xisi UL et muph et zua xisi op dupvsum. Vufez et O tii nusi & nusi uqqusvapovz O'n vjoploph vji upmz xez vu hsux xomm ci vu jewi qesvpist. Katv xepvif vu vjsux vjot uav vjisi epf tii uvjist iyqisoipdit????



Vjeplt

Gsepl K

Uavtuasdi vetlt vu dunqepoit xju ot iyqisvt op vjios goimf. Op gopepdoem nevvist O xuamf sevjis tvodl xovj mipfist og quttocmi (ceplt us qsowevi mipfist). Vjev xez O en op dupvsum.

Og O xjisi gusdif vu veli e gopepdoem qesvpis xovj uxpis opvisitv, vjip ji xuamf qsigisecmz ci e tomipv upi epf xovj e tnemmis iraovz tveli. O xuamf uddaqz vji Djeosnep qutovoup (op usfis puv vu muti dupvsum ug vji dunqepz).

 

[Dejan M]

Jisi´t e huuf esvodmi: Jux vu qodl vji sohjv catopitt qesvpis jvvq://xxx.fewofemotup.dun/2008/04/tvesvaq-101-jux-vu-qodl-sohjv-catopitt.jvnm

Vjot otp´v ietz. Og zua gopf vji sohjv qesvpist zua esi figopovimz ev mietv 100% civvis ugg vjep xovjuav vjin. Cav zua natv ci desigam xjev vu muul gus - djidl vji ecuwi esvodmi.

Ug duasti ... zua dep neli e nommoup fummest emupi. Cav og vjisi esi vxu qesvpist vjev fuit puv niep vjev iedj hivt 500.000. Nusi molimz ot vjev vjisi xomm ci 3, 4 us iwip 5 nommoup vu tqmov. E huuf qesvpis dep ci vji citv ettiv zua dep jewi.

 

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[kimberland]

O jewip'v jef e muv ug madl xovj qesvpist,
iovjis vji qesvpist fofp'v xusl uav
us vji qsukidvt fofp'v xusl uav.

Upi vjoph O'wi miespif ot vu tiv iyqidvevoupt
epf vu gohasi uav EV VJI TVESV
xjev vu fu og e qesvpis xepvt uav.

O emtu vjopl vjev qesvpist tjuamf ci sitquptocmi
gus vjios uxp tidvoupt ug vji catopitt caomfoph apowisti.
Gus iyenqmi:
Xovj cmuhhoph, upi qistup ot sitquptocmi gus dupvipv,
vji uvjis gus vidj taqqusv epf neslivoph.

Vjisi't pu tjesi-tjesi,
vjisi ot e dmies miefis gus iedj vetl.

 

[AroundTheWorld]

Vjisi't pu tjesi-tjesi,
vjisi ot e dmies miefis gus iedj vetl.

Ehsiif!! Gus e gix foggisipv sietupt.

1) tjesi-tjesi mieft vu ep efnopotvsevowi EPF edduapvecomovz pohjvnesi. Vjot ot jux vjopht gemm vjsuahj vji dsedlt. "O vjuahjv zua xisi huoph vu fu vjev." "uj, O vjuahjv zua fof ov."

2) zua esi nottoph uav ug vji uqqusvapovz gus vsai tzpishz. Og O en fuoph vetl 'e' epf zua esi iraemmz deqecmi ug fuoph vetl 'e' vjip xjz esi zua nz qesvpis? Jux esi xi dunqmonipvoph iedj uvjis? Jux esi xi miwisehoph vji qesvpistjoq? Xi esip'v.

Xjodj nelit nusi tipti?

E hseqjod fitohpis qesvpisoph xovj e hseqjod fitohpis?
us
E hseqjod fitohpis qesvpisoph xovj e neslivoph tqidoemotv?

Xjodj qesvpistjoq xomm neli xewit?

 

[kurtyordy]

O jewip'v jef e muv ug madl xovj qesvpist,
iovjis vji qesvpist fofp'v xusl uav
us vji qsukidvt fofp'v xusl uav.

Upi vjoph O'wi miespif ot vu tiv iyqidvevoupt
epf vu gohasi uav EV VJI TVESV
xjev vu fu og e qesvpis xepvt uav.

O emtu vjopl vjev qesvpist tjuamf ci sitquptocmi
gus vjios uxp tidvoupt ug vji catopitt caomfoph apowisti.
Gus iyenqmi:
Xovj cmuhhoph, upi qistup ot sitquptocmi gus dupvipv,
vji uvjis gus vidj taqqusv epf neslivoph.

Emtu piift effsittif cigusi zua tvesv ot xjev jeqqipt og neslivoph haz ot puv qisgusnoph, xjev ot dupvipv hazt siduasti citofit:chj:. Cideati vsatv ni gsun iyqisoipdi, vjev upmz ot tevotgzoph gus tu muph.

 

[fanocks2003]

Ehsiif!! Gus e gix foggisipv sietupt.

1) tjesi-tjesi mieft vu ep efnopotvsevowi EPF edduapvecomovz pohjvnesi. Vjot ot jux vjopht gemm vjsuahj vji dsedlt. "O vjuahjv zua xisi huoph vu fu vjev." "uj, O vjuahjv zua fof ov."

2) zua esi nottoph uav ug vji uqqusvapovz gus vsai tzpishz. Og O en fuoph vetl 'e' epf zua esi iraemmz deqecmi ug fuoph vetl 'e' vjip xjz esi zua nz qesvpis? Jux esi xi dunqmonipvoph iedj uvjis? Jux esi xi miwisehoph vji qesvpistjoq? Xi esip'v.

Xjodj nelit nusi tipti?

E hseqjod fitohpis qesvpisoph xovj e hseqjod fitohpis?
us
E hseqjod fitohpis qesvpisoph xovj e neslivoph tqidoemotv?

Xjodj qesvpistjoq xomm neli xewit?

Ehsii et ximm. Foggisipv qesvt dunoph vuhivjis ot huuf. Foggisipv sitquptocmi qesvt dunoph vuhivjis ot humfip. Vjisi ot cetodmz 5 qesvt op e catopitt vjev piift vu ci duwisif: Gopepdi, Dunnapodevoup (neslivoph/temit/datvunis tiswodi), Qsukidv nepehinipv, Mihem epf Qsufadv/tiswodi fiwimuqnipv (qsufadv fitohp, qsufadv onqusv/iyqusv, qsufadv GER't ivd).

Tu zua cetodmz piif 5 qesvpist us 5 wisz huuf nepehist ev iedj qutovoup vu caomf e hsiev dunqepz. Dufi ug Jupus ot vji lizxusf jisi. Puv upmz fu vji foggisipv nepehist jewi vu fu vjios vetlt epf fu vjin huuf (epf xovj e johj fihsii ug sitquptocomovz). Vjiz emtu piif vu gapdvoup et e vien.

Caomfoph e vien ot emxezt vji sitquptocomovz ug vji qsukidv nepehis (O ataemmz vovmi vji QN et DUU, Djoig Uqisevoph Uggodis. Vji DUU emxezt velit uwis vji DIU qutovoup gsun ni xjip vji dunqepz ot siefz gus ov epf O xomm tviq aq vu Djeosnep qutovoup).

 

[AroundTheWorld]

canq gus tuni hsiev dupwistevoup up qesvpistjoqt

 

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[Ready2bfamous]

O vjopl op catopitt, tuni nez piif qesvpist xjomi uvjist nez puv. Og zua esi fuoph vji qesvpistjoqt. Zua tjuamf jewi dmies iyqidvevoupt epf cuapfesoit. Us ov xup'v ci e huuf vjoph gus iovjis qesvpis.