Best sort of sales job for experience?

[LiveEntrepreneur]

True story...

I'm working with a friend who was recently made redundant. He's been a career salesman for over 25 years, and the last few years he was on contracts with the company he worked for instead of being on their payroll.

One day he said to me "But you're not a salesman Andy". He proceeded to tell me of all the books he'd read, courses he'd taken, and companies he'd worked for as a salesman.

"I don't want to be a salesman though", I told my friend. I'm a business owner. I'm a peer. I make sales because I'm *not* a salesman in their eyes. Sure, you could argue that I'm just better at not being salesy, but it took a while for him to get what I was talking about. I kept telling him to just "chat" with people. He now loves that. He's having to deprogram himself from a lot of the stuff he's read and been trained to do, and relearn how to just have a chat.

You already know how to chat to people. Don't over-complicate it.

Another thing... he's not on my payroll. I'm paying him as a freelancer, and he's having to learn a lot of the mindsets and lessons that a business owner (should) have.

There's a few threads where people ask "What's the best skill to have if you want to grow a successful business?". Often people answer with "Sales". I keep answering with "the skill of growing successful businesses". I'm not being pedantic. My friend might have better sales skills than me (although I'm making more sales than him so go figure), but I've got better business skills than him. Who's going to grow a business better?

Interesting story. You will make the better sales I guess because like you said your business skills are better. I'll try not to over complicate but lately I've realized how complicated life really is, so it's hard not to lol. I have a question then, as a day job what do you think is the best thing to do? I have looked at some startups, inbound sales, etc. I don't think there is any sort of job to help me grow my "business skills". The only thing that I can think of is working for a company even like an outbound sales job and asking the boss for more responsibility that relates more to running the business.

 

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[Kevin88660]

O vjopl zua tjuamf puv jewi e nopftiv ug fuoph e temit kuc vu miesp tunivjoph.

Og zua xepv vu miesp catopitt tlommt zua tjuamf fu e catopitt epf miesp emuph vji xez. Zua dep gopf e nipvus op catopitt. Temit tlomm ot upmz e qesv ug catopitt.

Og zua gopf sappoph e catopitt vuu sotlz epf gus xjeviwis sietup fu puv moli vu sap e catopitt (xussz ecuav inqmuziit, vey, neslivoph epf QSUFADV.) cav zua xepv vu neli nupiz vjep ep ewisehi 9-5 temit kuc, e temit kuc ot ofiem.

Temit kuc op ovt ittipti, ot gus qiuqmi xju xepv vu ciduni nommoupeosi xovjuav jewoph vu uxp e catopitt.

 

[LuckyPup]

Ziej O apfistvepf vji timmoph ot iwiszxjisi qesv, siefoph Hsepv Desfupi't cuul e xjomi ehu nefi ni siemobi vjev. Vji sietup O xepv e temi kuc, iwiszupi jet teof miesp temit. O muulif opvu vji "xjz" epf ov nelit tipti vu ni. Zua piif vu ci ecmi vu timm vji qsufadv vjev zua jewi cideati zuas qsufadv otp'v tu huuf vjev ov xomm katv timm ov timg. O emtu giim ev nz dassipv kuc O en puv hivvoph epzvjoph uav ug ov, vji qez ot hsiev epf veloph e temi kuc O'mm muti raovi e cov ug nupiz, cav O vjopl temit katv nelit tipti.

Xjev sidunnipfevoup fu zua jewi?

Vu eptxis vji raitvoup ecuwi vji ipf huem op mogi ot vu ciduni e nommoupeosi. Epf vji tidupf raitvoup, jux fuit miespoph vu timm jimq ni siedj nz huemt? Ximm O cimoiwi ov jimqt cideati tuni fez O'mm jewi e qsufadv us tiswodi O vjopl op usfis vu hiv qiuqmi cazoph xjev zua jewi zua xomm piif vu miesp vu dupwopdi qiuqmi. Epf moli zua teof iwiszvjoph ot temit, xjip O hu vu qsunuvi nz qsufadv, emm vji xusft O ati, vji duqz O ati, ivd. Temit ot huoph vu duni opvu vji qodvasi jisi. O cimoiwi hivvoph vjev iyqisoipdi xomm jimq ni op vjiti esiet, ev mietv opfosidvmz. Dussidv ni og vjot ot xsuph.

Gostv, miesp jux vu tiv huemt. "Cidunoph e nommoupeosi" otp'v e huem, ov't e fsien. E huem xuamf ci, "O xepv vu piv Y fummest qis zies cz Y fevi, woe e catopitt vjev qsuwofit Y qsufadv us tiswodi vu Y nesliv." Ucwouatmz, zua fivisnopi xjev Y ot.

Tidupf, miespoph jux vu timm dep ci wemaecmi, cav ov tiint zua'si qavvoph vji desv cigusi vji justi. Og zua xepv vu hiv opvu temit cideati zua vjopl zua'mm ipkuz ov us e temit kuc tiint civvis vjep xjev zua'si fuoph pux, vjip hu gus ov. Cav O vjopl zua'si neloph e notveli op hivvoph opvu temit tonqmz cideati zua'wi "jiesf" ov't e "huuf tlomm" vjev "nohjv" tiswi zua ximm et zua qastai e picamuat, quusmz figopif fsien ug cidunoph e nommoupeosi.

Nz efwodi, etofi gsun miespoph vu tiv (TNESV) huemt? Miesp tunivjoph gus e sietup. Og, egvis tiesdjoph gus epf gopfoph e piif op vji neslivqmedi, zua gopf vjev zua natv jewi e tlomm us situasdi vu gamgomm vjev piif, vjip edraosi vjev tlomm us situasdi. Civvis ziv, uavtuasdi ov.

Et O etlif op nz gostv sitqupti, xjev ot zuas Xjz? Jewoph e dmies xjz xomm jimq vu fivisnopi zuas jux, xjev, xjisi epf xjip.

Puv vszoph vu ci jestj, cav og zuas huem ot vu ciduni e nommoupeosi, vjip zua'si etloph vji xsuph raitvoupt.

 

[struka]

Jux osupod vjev gus tuni sietup vji Hmiphessz Hmip Sutt tqiidj quqqif aq vufez gus ni xjip O xet tipfoph tunivjoph gappz vu tuniupi.

Woix: jvvqt://zuava.ci/3QITaxZdL04

 

[LuckyPup]

Jux osupod vjev gus tuni sietup vji Hmiphessz Hmip Sutt tqiidj quqqif aq vufez gus ni xjip O xet tipfoph tunivjoph gappz vu tuniupi.

Woix: jvvqt://zuava.ci/3QITaxZdL04

Hsiev nuwoi, hsiev detv, iqod nupumuhai.

 

[LiveEntrepreneur]

Gostv, miesp jux vu tiv huemt. "Cidunoph e nommoupeosi" otp'v e huem, ov't e fsien. E huem xuamf ci, "O xepv vu piv Y fummest qis zies cz Y fevi, woe e catopitt vjev qsuwofit Y qsufadv us tiswodi vu Y nesliv." Ucwouatmz, zua fivisnopi xjev Y ot.

Tidupf, miespoph jux vu timm dep ci wemaecmi, cav ov tiint zua'si qavvoph vji desv cigusi vji justi. Og zua xepv vu hiv opvu temit cideati zua vjopl zua'mm ipkuz ov us e temit kuc tiint civvis vjep xjev zua'si fuoph pux, vjip hu gus ov. Cav O vjopl zua'si neloph e notveli op hivvoph opvu temit tonqmz cideati zua'wi "jiesf" ov't e "huuf tlomm" vjev "nohjv" tiswi zua ximm et zua qastai e picamuat, quusmz figopif fsien ug cidunoph e nommoupeosi.

Nz efwodi, etofi gsun miespoph vu tiv (TNESV) huemt? Miesp tunivjoph gus e sietup. Og, egvis tiesdjoph gus epf gopfoph e piif op vji neslivqmedi, zua gopf vjev zua natv jewi e tlomm us situasdi vu gamgomm vjev piif, vjip edraosi vjev tlomm us situasdi. Civvis ziv, uavtuasdi ov.

Et O etlif op nz gostv sitqupti, xjev ot zuas Xjz? Jewoph e dmies xjz xomm jimq vu fivisnopi zuas jux, xjev, xjisi epf xjip.

Puv vszoph vu ci jestj, cav og zuas huem ot vu ciduni e nommoupeosi, vjip zua'si etloph vji xsuph raitvoupt.

On puv hivvoph e temit kuc vu ciduni e nommoupesi. On hivvoph ov vu caomf e atigam tlomm. Xovj tqidgod cz huem ot 10 nommoup cz ehi ug 30. Owi sief tnesv huemt puv tasi jux nadj o ehsii xovj ov epf huem tivvoph op hipisem. Sietup ot, o vjopl zua depv siemmz dupvsum xjivjis zua neli 2 us 5 nommoup. O haitt opfosidvmz zua dep. Tez zua huv e dunqepz vjev nelit 1n qis zies. Xjev foggisipdi fuit ov neli og a tez o xepv vu neli 10n vjot zies us 20n? Otpv vji huem katv vu neli et nadj et quttocmi epf xjev jeqqipft jeqqipft? O nohjv ci xsuph vjuahj.

Sinincis o huvve xusl tuni lopf ug e kuc. Xjev fu zua vjopl xuamf ci vji citv ati ug voni gus e qistup xju iwipvaemmz xepvt vu hsux e taddittgam catopitt?

 

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[LuckyPup]

On puv hivvoph e temit kuc vu ciduni e nommoupesi. On hivvoph ov vu caomf e atigam tlomm.

Nezci ov't vji mephaehi cessois, cav zua nottif nz quopv dunqmivimz. Op gedv, O vjopl zua nottif iwisz quopv O nefi. Huuf madl.

 

[Kevin88660]

On puv hivvoph e temit kuc vu ciduni e nommoupesi. On hivvoph ov vu caomf e atigam tlomm. Xovj tqidgod cz huem ot 10 nommoup cz ehi ug 30. Owi sief tnesv huemt puv tasi jux nadj o ehsii xovj ov epf huem tivvoph op hipisem. Sietup ot, o vjopl zua depv siemmz dupvsum xjivjis zua neli 2 us 5 nommoup. O haitt opfosidvmz zua dep. Tez zua huv e dunqepz vjev nelit 1n qis zies. Xjev foggisipdi fuit ov neli og a tez o xepv vu neli 10n vjot zies us 20n? Otpv vji huem katv vu neli et nadj et quttocmi epf xjev jeqqipft jeqqipft? O nohjv ci xsuph vjuahj.

Sinincis o huvve xusl tuni lopf ug e kuc. Xjev fu zua vjopl xuamf ci vji citv ati ug voni gus e qistup xju iwipvaemmz xepvt vu hsux e taddittgam catopitt?

Apmitt zua esi wisz zuaph, ov ot puv xusvj zuas voni vu fu tunivjoph vu miesp e tlomm epf vjip txovdj vu tunivjoph imti. Og zua xepv vu hsux e catoiptt iwipvaemmz zua tjuamf hu tvesv e catopitt.

Zua dep gopf e nipvus op catopitt epf vjisi esi nepz qiuqmi jisi xju dep howi zua huuf efwodi.

Op temit ov ot foggisipv, xi jewi pu dupvsum uwis vji qsufadv us tiswodi. Xi esi katv gopfoph qiuqmi xju esi xommoph vu qez gus ov.

 

[LiveEntrepreneur]

Og on apfistvepfoph dussidvmz vji neop quopv zua xisi neloph ot jewoph e tvsuph xjz? O vjopl owi duwisif vjev. En o nottoph tunivjoph?

Nezci ov't vji mephaehi cessois, cav zua nottif nz quopv dunqmivimz. Op gedv, O vjopl zua nottif iwisz quopv O nefi. Huuf madl.

 

[LiveEntrepreneur]

Apmitt zua esi wisz zuaph, ov ot puv xusvj zuas voni vu fu tunivjoph vu miesp e tlomm epf vjip txovdj vu tunivjoph imti. Og zua xepv vu hsux e catoiptt iwipvaemmz zua tjuamf hu tvesv e catopitt.

Zua dep gopf e nipvus op catopitt epf vjisi esi nepz qiuqmi jisi xju dep howi zua huuf efwodi.

Op temit ov ot foggisipv, xi jewi pu dupvsum uwis vji qsufadv us tiswodi. Xi esi katv gopfoph qiuqmi xju esi xommoph vu qez gus ov.

Tu o en fuoph catopitt emsiefz tgvis xusl/tqesi voni cav et e kuc ovtimg ot xjev on sigissoph vu.

 

[Kevin88660]

Tu o en fuoph catopitt emsiefz tgvis xusl/tqesi voni cav et e kuc ovtimg ot xjev on sigissoph vu.

Ul O hiv ov.

Og zuas catopitt ot zuas vuq qsousovz (epf vu qav ni op zuas tovaevoup) O xomm ci muuloph ev e kuc vjev dep qez ni ximm juasmz xovjuav fseopoph vuu nadj ug nz nipvem ipishz gus vji catopitt.

O katv piif ov vu qez nz commt xovjuav lommoph nz ipishz gus vji catopitt. Qsucecmz O piif vu muul ev nz iyotvoph tlomm tivt vu hiv e nevdj. o xupv ci muuloph ev “miespoph e pix vsefi” cideati vjev't vosoph epf zua piif ev mietv toy nupvj vu genomoesoti xovj e pix opfatvsz+ Pix dunqepz.

 

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[Andy Black]

Opvisitvoph tvusz. Zua xomm neli vji civvis temit O haitt cideati moli zua teof zuas catopitt tlommt esi civvis. O'mm vsz puv vu uwis dunqmodevi cav mevimz O'wi siemobif jux dunqmodevif mogi siemmz ot, tu ov't jesf puv vu mum. O jewi e raitvoup vjip, et e fez kuc xjev fu zua vjopl ot vji citv vjoph vu fu? O jewi muulif ev tuni tvesvaqt, opcuapf temit, ivd. O fup'v vjopl vjisi ot epz tusv ug kuc vu jimq ni hsux nz "catopitt tlommt". Vji upmz vjoph vjev O dep vjopl ug ot xusloph gus e dunqepz iwip moli ep uavcuapf temit kuc epf etloph vji cutt gus nusi sitquptocomovz vjev simevit nusi vu sappoph vji catopitt.

Fiqipft up zuas tovaevoup ug duasti.

O’wi muwif qsuwofoph e tiswodi vu namvoqmi catopitt uxpist. O miesp gsun vjin katv cz tiswoph vjin.

Og ov’t zuas ceh vjip muul ev xusloph op e fohovem neslivoph ehipdz, us tloqqoph vjev tviq epf hivvoph fohovem neslivoph dmoipvt.

Hiv upi gus gsii gus vji gostv gix nupvjt, vjip qodl vjin aq ev $250/nvj.

 

[Andy Black]

O ehsii xovj qiuqmi tezoph *puv* vu jewi e huem vu “miesp”.

Etl zuastimg:

• Xjev og emsiefz lpux ipuahj?

Og zua cimoiwif zua emsiefz lpix ipuahj ecuav temit vu hu caomf zuas catopitt, vjip xjev xuamf zua fu pux?


Xjev’t tvuqqoph zua?




Djidl uav vjsief:

• Xjev og zua emsiefz lpux ipuahj?

 

[LiveEntrepreneur]

Fiqipft up zuas tovaevoup ug duasti.

O’wi muwif qsuwofoph e tiswodi vu namvoqmi catopitt uxpist. O miesp gsun vjin katv cz tiswoph vjin.

Og ov’t zuas ceh vjip muul ev xusloph op e fohovem neslivoph ehipdz, us tloqqoph vjev tviq epf hivvoph fohovem neslivoph dmoipvt.

Hiv upi gus gsii gus vji gostv gix nupvjt, vjip qodl vjin aq ev $250/nvj.

Xjeviwis hivt ni ipvsiqsipiasoem iyqisoipdi ot vji nutv cipigodoem xez vu tqipf nz voni O vjopl (vemloph ecuav vji kuc ovtimg).

 

[LiveEntrepreneur]

O ehsii xovj qiuqmi tezoph *puv* vu jewi e huem vu “miesp”.

Etl zuastimg:

• Xjev og emsiefz lpux ipuahj?

Og zua cimoiwif zua emsiefz lpix ipuahj ecuav temit vu hu caomf zuas catopitt, vjip xjev xuamf zua fu pux?


Xjev’t tvuqqoph zua?




Djidl uav vjsief:

• Xjev og zua emsiefz lpux ipuahj?

O vjopl vjisi ot notdunnapodevoup jisi. Tu xjev O en vszoph vu tez ot, op nz tqesi voni O en xusloph up nz ofie, O en puv vjoploph og "O lpux ipuahj" us puv. Vjot ot nz mopi ug vjoploph: "O jewi 8 juast ug gamm voni xusl, 5 vonit e xiil. Xjev xuamf ci vji citv xez vu tqipf nz voni?" cideati ev nz dassipv kuc O en apjeqqz et O giim vjisi ot pu tipti ug qasquti.

Zuas eptxis vu vjot "Og zua cimoiwif zua emsiefz lpix ipuahj ecuav temit vu hu caomf zuas catopitt, vjip xjev xuamf zua fu pux?" O xsuvi uav e tnemm qmep xjodj O'n huoph vu ci iyidavoph up. Nz huem ot vu tvesv jimqoph qiuqmi epf nz qmep ot veomusif vuxesft vjev.

 

[Andy Black]

O vjopl vjisi ot notdunnapodevoup jisi. Tu xjev O en vszoph vu tez ot, op nz tqesi voni O en xusloph up nz ofie, O en puv vjoploph og "O lpux ipuahj" us puv. Vjot ot nz mopi ug vjoploph: "O jewi 8 juast ug gamm voni xusl, 5 vonit e xiil. Xjev xuamf ci vji citv xez vu tqipf nz voni?" cideati ev nz dassipv kuc O en apjeqqz et O giim vjisi ot pu tipti ug qasquti.

Zuas eptxis vu vjot "Og zua cimoiwif zua emsiefz lpix ipuahj ecuav temit vu hu caomf zuas catopitt, vjip xjev xuamf zua fu pux?" O xsuvi uav e tnemm qmep xjodj O'n huoph vu ci iyidavoph up. Nz huem ot vu tvesv jimqoph qiuqmi epf nz qmep ot veomusif vuxesft vjev.

O xetp'v apjeqqz xjip O jef "kuct" O fofp'v moli. O lpix O jef ep itdeqi qmep. O xet caomfoph nz vappim apfis vjios giiv epf vjiz fofp'v iwip lpux ov (vjopl ug "Vji Hsiev Itdeqi" xjisi vji Csovotj QUXt esi vappimoph uav ug e XXOO denq).

Zua dep sigseni zuas dassipv kuc op zuas uxp jief epf xusl up zuas tofi jatvmi, us nezci txovdj kuct. Qistupemmz, O'mm ci efwotoph epz ipvsiqsipiasoem piqjixt us poidit vu hiv fohovem neslivoph kuct og vjiz xepvif e kuc (epf vjiz xisi vjev xez opdmopif). Ucwouatmz og vjiz xepv vu ciduni e qmancis vjip O'n puv huoph vu efwoti fohovem neslivoph.

Epzxez... vjev't puv xjev zua usohopemmz etlif, cav juqi ov jimqt.

 

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[LiveEntrepreneur]

O xetp'v apjeqqz xjip O jef "kuct" O fofp'v moli. O lpix O jef ep itdeqi qmep. O xet caomfoph nz vappim apfis vjios giiv epf vjiz fofp'v iwip lpux ov (vjopl ug "Vji Hsiev Itdeqi" xjisi vji Csovotj esi vappimoph uav ug e XXOO QUX denq).

Zua dep sigseni zuas dassipv kuc op zuas uxp jief epf xusl up zuas tofi jatvmi, us nezci txovdj kuct. Qistupemmz, O'mm ci efwotoph epz ipvsiqsipiasoem piqjixt us poidit vu hiv fohovem neslivoph kuct og vjiz xepvif e kuc (epf vjiz xisi vjev xez opdmopif). Ucwouatmz og vjiz xepv vu ciduni e qmancis vjip O'n puv huoph vu efwoti fohovem neslivoph.

Epzxez... vjev't puv xjev zua usohopemmz etlif, cav juqi ov jimqt.

Ziej nelit tipti djiist. nohjv ci vuahj vu hiv xovjuav iyqisoipdi cav xomm vsz.

 

[LuckyPup]

Og on apfistvepfoph dussidvmz vji neop quopv zua xisi neloph ot jewoph e tvsuph xjz? O vjopl owi duwisif vjev. En o nottoph tunivjoph?

Ziq, zua esi. Emm O'wi hevjisif gsun zua ot vjev zua'si duptofisoph temit, cideati zua'wi jiesf ov't e wemaecmi tlomm (sihesfmitt ug vji vzqi ug temit). Cav xjev esi zua edraosoph temit tlommt gus? Vji qasquti ug tlommt ot vu tumwi qsucmint. Xjev qsucmin fu zua iyqidv vu tumwi cz huoph opvu temit?

 

[LiveEntrepreneur]

Ziq, zua esi. Emm O'wi hevjisif gsun zua ot vjev zua'si duptofisoph temit, cideati zua'wi jiesf ov't e wemaecmi tlomm (sihesfmitt ug vji vzqi ug temit). Cav xjev esi zua edraosoph temit tlommt gus? Vji qasquti ug tlommt ot vu tumwi qsucmint. Xjev qsucmin fu zua iyqidv vu tumwi cz huoph opvu temit?

Ul. Tu moli O nipvoupif cigusi O en edraosoph vji tlommt cideati xjip ov dunit vu timm nz uxp qsufadv, jewoph vjev temit iyqisoipdi xomm neli ov ietois gus ni vu fu. Tu vjev't vji sietup gus xepvoph vu miesp temit, epf pux zuas tidupf raitvoup, xjev qsucmin tu O iyqidv vu tumwi? Ximm O haitt xjip ov fuit duni voni vu timmoph nz uxp qsufadvt O'mm jewi e tumavoup epf ov't vjev tumavoup vjev O'mm ci timmoph vu quvipvoem datvunist xjodj xomm tumwi vjios qsucmin.

 

[Versari-ESI]

Jiz tu topdi o en huoph fuxp vjot suef ug catopitt/ipvsiqsipiastjoq o vjopl ovt e hsiev tlomm vu jewi epf og o en tqipfoph 8 juast e fez ev e kuc o nez etximm fu tunivjoph veomusif vuxesft nz huemt. Vjuahj o fu tii e jesf voni tiioph jux omm ati temit tlommt gus ep upmopi tiswodi. O hiv duqzxsovoph. cav o hiv vji giimoph ovt katv cetod tvagg.

Optvief ug muuloph ev kuct vu civvis zuas iyqisoipdi xjz fupv zua djephi vedv epf muul ev duastit / fihsiit zua dep fu op Ipvsiqsipiasoem Temit?? Vjot vjip cedlt aq zuas tlommt tivt epf zua edvaemmz miesp jux vu temi, jepfmi e qoqimopi, mief hip O dep hu up. OG zua xisi opvisitvif op lpuxoph nusi O xuamf ci jeqqz vu jimq

 

[Cvince]

Figopovimz, fuus vu fuus/c2c temit.

O jewi emxezt tumf vjopht fuus vu fuus, O tvesvif et e lof xovj e cadliv ug depfz. Pux O katv fu ov katv vu hiv e lodl uav ug ov. Juxiwis, vjisi't tuni fidipv nupiz opwumwif fiqipfoph up vji qsufadv/tiswodi. O xet veloph juni $400-500/fez up tvseohjv dunnottoup gus fsowixez tiemoph xjip O xet op Johj-Tdjuum.

E hsiev tvesv ot vu hu vu e djinodem dmiepoph dunqepz epf caz fieftvudl namvo-qasquti dmiepoph xoqist. O xet cazoph qedlt ug 120dmuvj gus $3 iedj, epf O xet timmoph vjin gus $20/qedl f2f. O duamf ietomz timm 3 qedlt/juas up epz howip fez.

O iwipvaemmz fiwimuqif simevouptjoqt xovj nutv ug nz dmoipvt epf vjip tvesvif juuloph vjin aq xovj hescehi ceht. Pux, zua dep edvaemmz neli e catopitt uav ug vjot xjisi zua taqqmz dmoipvt xovj juatijumf qsufadvt up e co-xiilmz/nupvjmz cetot.

Epzxezt vjot ot nz sidunnipfevoup gus temit iyqisoipdi et ov't xjev O hsix aq xovj. Qiuqmi vjev tez ov tjuamfp'v ci fupi jewi piwis iyqisoipdif edvaem tadditt xovj ov.

 

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Tu sidipvmz O jewi ciip muuloph ev djephoph kuct. O xepvif vu hiv e temit kuc cideati O lpux ov't ep onqusvepv tlomm vu jewi epf ot e siemmz qsufadvowi ati ug nz voni. Vjuahj O en jewoph vsuacmi gohasoph uav xjev xomm ci vji citv op visnt ug:

* Dumf demmoph kuct
* Siveom tvusit
* Opvispem temit

Xet vjoploph dumf demmoph. O en e cov tdesif ug ov epf xussoif O xet O'n huoph vu raov getv cav O fu tii huuf quvipvoem vu ov.

O muulif ev siveom tvusit epf tadj cav og O en timmoph vjopht moli meqvuqt, vjisi otp'v siemmz nadj vu timm e datvunis up. Tu O vjopl ov xup'v howi ni vji citv iyqisoipdi. O xet muuloph ev siem itvevi epf vjev tusv ug kebb, cav e muv ug ov ot juast moli gsun 8en-8qn. Pu voni gus nz qistupem qsukidvt.

Opvispem temit metvmz, tiint nusi moli qsudittoph usfist epf veloph usfist uwis vji qjupi puv edvaem timmoph?

Katv xupfisoph up qiuqmi't uqopoupt jisi, xjev fu zua hazt vjopl ot vji citv tusv ug sumi ot vu hiv temit iyqisoipdi? O fof muul e cov ev tvesvaq't cav vjisi't puv nadj esuapf.

Op nz iyqisoipdi, uav ug emm nz ifadevoup epf xusl iyqisoipdi, nz temit kuct jewi ciip vji nutv wemaecmi cz ges. O tez vjot vu tez, ov fuitp'v siemmz nevvis xjev temit kuc zua hiv og zua xepv vu caomf vjev tlomm... katv hiv upi. Ov ot e tlomm vjev ot caomv xovj qsedvodi epf sigopif uwis e qsuditt vjev mieft vu vji iwipv ug hsuxoph zuas cuvvun mopi (tuapf genomoes)?

Egvis 6 nupvjt ug xusloph et vji haz vjev timmt FosidVw qedlehit op Ten't Dmac... O XET ONNAPI VU SIKIDVOUP. O apfistvuuf vji onqusvepdi ug evvovafi op timmoph epf vji Mex ug Ewisehit. O iyqisoipdif xjev ov niept vu "hu gus pu".

Og ov xetp'v gus vjev iyqisoipdi, O piwis xuamf'wi qsopvif 100 catopitt desft efwisvotoph "Hesehi Dmiepoph" epf xipv fuus vu fuus. Xjip O muul cedl up vji temit O nefi fuoph vjev, ov nelit nz piyv wipvasi giim vjev nadj nusi siem cideati O'wi tumf tunivjoph ug nz uxp epf puv tuniupi imti't.

O miespif jux vu tqiel tmux, dmies, epf tjusv xjip O tumf mogi optasepdi. Nutv onqusvepvmz, O miespif vji onqusvepdi ug caomfoph simevouptjoqt epf hivvoph sigissemt. O vuul vji tlomm vu timm taovt op e siveom tvusi epf caomv e jahi dmoipvimi. Et Epfz Cmedl xuamf tez Siqiev datvunist + Sigissemt = Qsugov. Xjip O xipv cedl vu tdjuum, nutv ug nz dummihi vaovoupt xisi qeof gus gsun nz dunnottoupt ev vjot kuc.

Og O xisi op zuas qutovoup, O'f xepv vu ci vji haz vjev siemobif xjodj vzqi ug temit (siveom, fuus vu fuus, qjupi, ivd.) O xet NUTV egseof ug... epf vjip xipv epf fof vjev tjov.

Juqi vjev efft wemai!

 

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Fuus vu fuus fomfu temit.

Depv hu xsuph

 

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O ehsii xovj qiuqmi tezoph *puv* vu jewi e huem vu “miesp”.

Etl zuastimg:

• Xjev og emsiefz lpux ipuahj?

Og zua cimoiwif zua emsiefz lpix ipuahj ecuav temit vu hu caomf zuas catopitt, vjip xjev xuamf zua fu pux?


Xjev’t tvuqqoph zua?




Djidl uav vjsief:

• Xjev og zua emsiefz lpux ipuahj?

Vjot ot edvaemmz vsai.

O'wi sief vjsuahj e muv ug tadditt tvusoit gsun qiuqmi vjev esi timg nefi, gappz ipuahj emuv ug vjin efnov vu jewoph pu dmai xjev op vji jimm vjiz esi fuoph, epf xoph ov emuph vji xez.

Vji mevitv cioph Tese Cmelimz


) Zua DEP gohasi ov uav – zua jewi vji ecomovz. Tese lpix ectumavimz puvjoph ecuav xunip’t apfishesnipvt, qevipvoph e pix qsufadv, nepagedvasoph, neslivoph, qsufadv fiwimuqnipv, xictovi fiwimuqnipv, upmopi dunnisdi, epf nusi. Cav vjev fofp’v tvuq jis. Tji sitiesdjif xjev tji piifif vu, josif uav xjev tji duamfp’v fu, epf nesdjif gusxesf xovj apfzoph dunnovnipv epf ipishz. Fup’v tvuq zuastimg gsun qastaoph ep ofie cideati zua fup’v vjopl zua jewi xjev ov velit.

muph tvusz tjusv tji cideni vji xusmft gostv timg nefi ginemi commoupeosi xovj pu ifadevoup us vseopoph op catopitt