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[Hairy Maclary]

Would automation work "better" for a market with a larger target audience?
For example, HD softcore vs. pediatric walking frames...

Perhaps there are some things people logon specifically for and therefore automation struggles...
As opposed to things like porn, that are more likely to cause the mouse pointer to wander....

Anyway I could be wrong.

 

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[deanchaney322]

Hello everyone! Just want to share something. I have been doing Seo for two year's and learned a lot of things from the past, doing automated and manual link are both effective if done in systematic procedure. Think about! quality links is better than spammy numerous links.

 

[Dan Da Man]

Hello everyone! Just want to share something. I have been doing Seo for two year's and learned a lot of things from the past, doing automated and manual link are both effective if done in systematic procedure. Think about! quality links is better than spammy numerous links.

Ummm.... No.

Manual link building is for those who don't know how to automate. No offense but manual link building won't be able to compete with automation any day of the week. Sorry but you are wrong 100%

 

[cilaes]

I got... well, attempted to get into the SEO game a while back, and studied it for over a year even, but never took any action. I got into PPC and found a little profit there, but mainly being a designer and coder found plenty of other profitable ventures and never really went for it. Now that I'm working for myself, I have moved myself along with my business back to my small home town. There is very little competition locally, and the only big SEO value they have is their "Designed By" link on all of their clients webs.

I don't know, nor did I ever even touch the surface of local SEO, but I know the competition is weak. On a site that isn't very content-based, what do you do in this arena?

 

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[Whole Paradigm]

What are your thoughts/experiences/review of software such as Senuke?

 

[Dan Da Man]

What are your thoughts/experiences/review of software such as Senuke?

We call it SEpuke because it is one of the most over hyped SEO programs. All in all it is a good starter software. I would recommend starting with SENuke as it is very noob friendly.

When you really get into link building you will find that senuke is very time consuming as you have to sit there pressing buttons all day. My advice is to learn it yourself than outsource it overseas. There is no way one person can sit there running SEnuke all day. Too time consuming.

I got a few guys who run it full time for some of my sites until I can completely automate everything. But these all in one seo programs do have a tendency to leave a nice footprint for the big G

 

[Dan Da Man]

I got... well, attempted to get into the SEO game a while back, and studied it for over a year even, but never took any action. I got into PPC and found a little profit there, but mainly being a designer and coder found plenty of other profitable ventures and never really went for it. Now that I'm working for myself, I have moved myself along with my business back to my small home town. There is very little competition locally, and the only big SEO value they have is their "Designed By" link on all of their clients webs.

I don't know, nor did I ever even touch the surface of local SEO, but I know the competition is weak. On a site that isn't very content-based, what do you do in this arena?

Start researching Google local SEO. Local listings are far different than your normal SEO. You need citations to rank. I have not spent time here but it seems a lot easier than normal SEO. Blackhatworld.com and search local SEO. This will give you more than enough info.

 

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[bmarone]

Just out of curiosity, I scanned through other sites that discussed automatic link building. I've read that it's a risk for newer websites to automate their links, as a sudden influx of inbound links might look suspicious for a new site and may cause the site to be penalized. Being that my website is roughly two weeks old at this point, how much of a risk would it be?

Also, what email name/title might the ebook be under? My email is very picky about what it takes in and I don't want to delete the ebook accidentally. Thanks again.

 

[bigtamale]

Haha! Dude, its horrible! It makes it almost impossible to learn

You guys should try understanding botmaster's documentation ... same rusky accent. The truth is not hard.

 

[stranger]

Dan, is it possible to do a good seo for 1 page's website?

 

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[Dan Da Man]

Dan, is it possible to do a good seo for 1 page's website?

You talking about a site with only one page? I don't know how you could create a site with only one page unless it is a landing page. It would be impossible to say since I do not know your competition, keyword or what you are doing SEO wise.

Thin sites and landing pages have an often hard time ranking but they can be done. Who do you think google is going to favor? A one page site or amazon which has millions if not billions of pages?

Give more info if you want a better answer

 

[stranger]

About 1 page's website - i just asked it because 1 of my friends is sure it's impossible to run 1 page's website ok.

 

[mapaul04]

I am also very new to SEO. I have recently launched my first website and am somewhat lost when it comes SEO. I have been reading blackhatworld a bit and found a post that says the following.

5 New Post-Penguin Factors google uses to rank websites:

1. Anchor Text Diversity (Google Divides your number of links by the total number of different anchor texts used to link to your site)
2. The ratio of the number of links to deep pages vs your home page
3. The Composition of your backlinks TLDs
4. Average number of characters per word and H2 breaks (5.1 characters per word is ideal with one H2 per 150 words)
5. Time on Site (The time it takes a user to return back to Google, Dwell Time)

Have you found this to be true and are there any other factors we should keep in mind?
I would also be interested in your ebook as well as your website which looks to be launching in about 10 days now. Thanks

 

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[AgonI]

Hi Dan Da Man, I am a newbie in SEO and I have a simple question.
I just set up an ecommerce store with a new domain name. I was wondering, would I get in trouble with the Panda/Penguin(whatever this is ) if I start creating social bookmarks for each product of my store using an automation software? The bookmarks will be something like Facebook notes linking to the respective product page on my newly created website. I have about 200 products that I want to do this with. I don't think my site is even indexed on Google yet.

Thank you!

 

[pegasus]

Google gives the most weight to contextual links at the moment. So pages with tons of content on high authority domains are going to get you the most weight at the moment (web 2.0 sites). Majority of my link building is with web 2.0 sites. Building up pyramids and backlinking your 2.0s with other 2.0s.

Unless you can get some guest posting on high authority domains in your niche, creating ton of content (by spinning) and distributing them to your web 2.0s would be the best bet.

Do you think this approach would work with a site hit by Penguin?

I have a website who had an inner page ranking on page 1 and the homepage was page 5; Got hit by the penguin virus and after it, home page disappeared at least from the first 40 pages (gave up looking after that), and the inner page that was on page 1 slowly kept on dropping from page 1, to page 30+.

As of today, this inner page which used to be on page 1, is on page 23 (although last week it was as high as page 9), and the homepage is at least back to page 33. I haven't done anything yet link building related, because I keep on waiting to see if penguin stabilizes; but as of last week, the homepage came back to the serps, since after penguin, I couldn't even find it as mentioned before.

And yep, most likely I got hit because I used the same anchor and I joined a private network which got deindexed.

I was thinking of manually doing the web 2.0 properties a while back, but don't know if it's even worth it. Any experience dealing with sites hit by penguin?

Thanks for the post!

 

[Dan Da Man]

Do you think this approach would work with a site hit by Penguin?

I have a website who had an inner page ranking on page 1 and the homepage was page 5; Got hit by the penguin virus and after it, home page disappeared at least from the first 40 pages (gave up looking after that), and the inner page that was on page 1 slowly kept on dropping from page 1, to page 30+.

As of today, this inner page which used to be on page 1, is on page 23 (although last week it was as high as page 9), and the homepage is at least back to page 33. I haven't done anything yet link building related, because I keep on waiting to see if penguin stabilizes; but as of last week, the homepage came back to the serps, since after penguin, I couldn't even find it as mentioned before.

And yep, most likely I got hit because I used the same anchor and I joined a private network which got deindexed.

I was thinking of manually doing the web 2.0 properties a while back, but don't know if it's even worth it. Any experience dealing with sites hit by penguin?

Thanks for the post!

Honestly, I do not have any experience with any of my sites being hit so I don't know what works or what doesn't. I see people scrambling around trying to fix their sites but if a site has been penalized by google I would say that it is almost riskier to try and get that site ranking again than just building another site and starting over. If I were hit I would just scrap that site and move on. Take it as a learning experience and move on to the next site. Again, you need to know what you are doing but I would not waste time or money on a site that has been hit.

 

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[pegasus]

If I were hit I would just scrap that site and move on. Take it as a learning experience and move on to the next site. Again, you need to know what you are doing but I would not waste time or money on a site that has been hit.

Thanks for the answer, which leads to another question.

What is your 'automated' linking strategy to rank a new site?

In other words, you build a new site today, what type of links and at what link velocity do you build links to get the site ranked? Of course, I understand some keywords might be more competitive than others, but assuming you use the same approach to your sites---how do you go about ranking a new site? Thanks again!

 

[stranger]

Dan, could you give some suggestions about the onpage optimization making websites appealing to the SE?

 

[FastNAwesome]

Hi Dan,

Fantastic thread!

I'm also curious about 1 page sites, by which I mean:

- landing pages
- parking pages
- coming soon/under construction

My main concern is not about ranking these pages, but about getting them penalized or even deindexed.

Could google see a 1 page website as something to penalize/deindex? Or to not have me as #1 even for my domain name?

 

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[JaySoriano]

Common misconceptions about SEO?

 

[Wuping]

Hello Dan, I have a quick question for you.

I'm about to setup an Ecommerce website. And I'm in doubt whether to use Shopify or Wordpress (own hosting).

I can see the convenience of Shopify. No need to worry about SSL, payment integration etc. This is a huge plus for me. On the downside however, lots of simple SEO plug-ins cost money monthly. It's hard to change simple things like permalink structure etc.

However if I was to host my own solution, it would probably be a simple wordpress installation. If I was then to use a payment processor on my site, it would require SSL which is an additional annual fee. However I feel I have much more control when it's my own installation. Easier to add plug-ins etc.

Your thoughts?

Hope you can help me out on this one!

Cheers!

 

[Dan Da Man]

Common misconceptions about SEO?

That blackhat is bad.

White had is good.

Listen to Google.


Man, there are so many I don't even have time to list them

 

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[Dan Da Man]

Hello Dan, I have a quick question for you.

I'm about to setup an Ecommerce website. And I'm in doubt whether to use Shopify or Wordpress (own hosting).

I can see the convenience of Shopify. No need to worry about SSL, payment integration etc. This is a huge plus for me. On the downside however, lots of simple SEO plug-ins cost money monthly. It's hard to change simple things like permalink structure etc.

However if I was to host my own solution, it would probably be a simple wordpress installation. If I was then to use a payment processor on my site, it would require SSL which is an additional annual fee. However I feel I have much more control when it's my own installation. Easier to add plug-ins etc.

Your thoughts?

Hope you can help me out on this one!

Cheers!

Here, let me be blunt. You are worrying about things that do not matter. YOu can sit here all day worrying about tiny things like this and in the end, your site might not even make a sale. Than you have wasted all this time on worrying about SSLs and shit like that.

My biggest advice to you would be to get the site up and start driving traffic. The site can look like shit but until you have traffic and until you know if your product will sell, the things that you are worrying about are close to worthless.

 

[Wuping]

Great honest answer Dan
I came to the same conclusion and decided to go with Spotify. I guess using too much time on such things is just a waste of time and/or anbad excuse.
Thanks!

 

[glaskon]

I am also very new to SEO. I have recently launched my first website and am somewhat lost when it comes SEO. I have been reading blackhatworld a bit and found a post that says the following.

5 New Post-Penguin Factors google uses to rank websites:

1. Anchor Text Diversity (Google Divides your number of links by the total number of different anchor texts used to link to your site)
2. The ratio of the number of links to deep pages vs your home page
3. The Composition of your backlinks TLDs
4. Average number of characters per word and H2 breaks (5.1 characters per word is ideal with one H2 per 150 words)
5. Time on Site (The time it takes a user to return back to Google, Dwell Time)

Have you found this to be true and are there any other factors we should keep in mind?
I would also be interested in your ebook as well as your website which looks to be launching in about 10 days now. Thanks

Hi to everyone, this is my first post here, but i'm not a newbie.
1. Anchor text diversity - here is important to have multi anchor texts, some guys use only one anchor for a website,
good practice is to have 4-5 different anchors and if you want make your website safer add anchor with name of your website or company, and add some longtail website on example if your keyword is shoes also use: shoes promotion

2. Just make a website which is easy to navigate do not overuse your keywords.

3. This can be helped with directory submission or safe article submission on your minisites - all of them have to be unique.

4. Make sure that your website has customised count of words(not everywhere the same or similar count), for google always was important to have quality content, and quality content need to be structured (and h2 are for it)

5. Yes that is important and this is the reason why you should consider add a short embedded movie to you websites it will add visit time

And the most important thing, bhw is a forum with mainly task to cheat google... if your domain is important to you use safer techniques. Because mostly in black hat... only incoming links count (3 weeks ago (after pinguin) we putted fresh domain on hard keyword and it is still on top).
Remember one thing google keeps their secrets, and they do not tell all truth...

 

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[DTS Ltd]

I'm new to the forum. I've recently posted some YouTube videos to a section of my website that deal with setting up a Google Webmasters account, along with an assessment of how Google assesses and ranks a website. In light of the questions being asked here, i thought that the information would be a useful resource:

 

[JAJT]

Excellent post Dan. I just wanted to say thanks for the insights.

I've been browsing the forum with a notebook beside me for a few days now and it's filling up quickly because of people like you

Is your e-book already available or still in the works? I'd love to take a look at it with the others if there is still room on that list.

Cheers,

 

[kwerner]

And the most important thing, bhw is a forum with mainly task to cheat google... if your domain is important to you use safer techniques. Because mostly in black hat... only incoming links count (3 weeks ago (after pinguin) we putted fresh domain on hard keyword and it is still on top).

:lame:

 

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[Dan Da Man]

And the most important thing, bhw is a forum with mainly task to cheat google... if your domain is important to you use safer techniques. Because mostly in black hat... only incoming links count (3 weeks ago (after pinguin) we putted fresh domain on hard keyword and it is still on top).
Remember one thing google keeps their secrets, and they do not tell all truth...

With this statement, I can disregard everything you are saying because you obviously know nothing about SEO. There is no safe techniques. Actually, sorry I am wrong. Safe techniques would be doing nothing. Once you build any link to your site, you put yourself at risk.

If you are doing white hat, you are basically a chump who knows nothing about anything.

 

[stranger]

Dan, all you're saying here is about getting back links.
What tools do you use to find keywords for sites?