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For a detailed account you can consult this resource :


Its great as it's very thorough and also starts with an extensive disclaimer against common misconceptions.
Thank you for sharing this link. Awesome resource!

It has taken me a while to get through it, and I still have more to read, but what I've read so far has been super helpful.

So it seems my stack is Ti-Ne-Si-Fe.

I'm curious if you or @Simon Angel have any tips on how to communicate effectively and live harmoniously with people whose stack is the opposite (e.g. Si-Fe-Ti-Ne or any combination where their S & F are Dominant or Auxiliary).
 

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I'm an INTJ-A. I'm wondering how many there are here.

If I had to take a guess, I would say quite a few. ENTJ, ENTP, INTJ, INTP are the most common (and well-equipped) types to see the big picture and ultimately succeed in business.

I really like INTJs, they're shadow types with ENTP due to the mirrored function stacks. Even though they are often stubborn and opinionated I'd say they tend to be strategical geniuses (great at planning, slower to take action, good at strategy games) while ENTPs tend to be tactical geniuses (great at improvizing, quick to take action, good at FPS/moba/mechanical games. It's a good partner match too.
 

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Thank you for sharing this link. Awesome resource!

It has taken me a while to get through it, and I still have more to read, but what I've read so far has been super helpful.

So it seems my stack is Ti-Ne-Si-Fe.

I'm curious if you or @Simon Angel have any tips on how to communicate effectively and live harmoniously with people whose stack is the opposite (e.g. Si-Fe-Ti-Ne or any combination where their S & F are Dominant or Auxiliary).

Read up on what each of those functions values most. It's usually the exact opposite of what you do. For example:

Dominant/Auxiliary Ti: Seeks answers, rationalizes everything, comes to own conclusions after thoroughly weighing both sides. Questions authority. Usually appears arrogant due to trusting their own thoughts and opinions over those of the status quo.

Tertiary/Inferior Ti: Does things without stopping to question what, why or how, avoids rational explanations (trusts higher slot functions like Si or Fe), finds it difficult to form own conclusions and seeing and understanding things from both perspectives. If dom/aux Si, will always obey the rules and authority, will do things they way they think they should be done, or the way people think they should do them.
 

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Read up on what each of those functions values most. It's usually the exact opposite of what you do. For example:

Dominant/Auxiliary Ti: Seeks answers, rationalizes everything, comes to own conclusions after thoroughly weighing both sides. Questions authority. Usually appears arrogant due to trusting their own thoughts and opinions over those of the status quo.

Tertiary/Inferior Ti: Does things without stopping to question what, why or how, avoids rational explanations (trusts higher slot functions like Si or Fe), finds it difficult to form own conclusions and seeing and understanding things from both perspectives. If dom/aux Si, will always obey the rules and authority, will do things they way they think they should be done, or the way people think they should do them.
I noticed.

And I happen to be married to one. :rofl: :eek::clench::inpain:

I can read and analyze to my heart's content, but at the end of the day, I'm not good at operating in the social/emotional stuff. So I was just curious if anyone had any tips or real-world experiences that you've found to be helpful when communicating with others.

I was discussing this topic with someone recently, and they made this comment:

"Here’s an interesting thing to keep in mind: In a 60 minute time frame, you’ll spend approximately 30 min in your dominant, 15 min in your aux, 9 min in your 3rd function and 6 min in your 4th function. So you start to tune out & feel restless in 6 minutes if somebody’s operating in your 4th function."

This is obviously an exaggeration, as no single hour is going to be that cut-and-dried.

But I did find it insightful to observe that I'll start to tune out in 6 minutes if somebody’s operating in my 4th function.

I've started to watch for this, and it seems to be true.

The flip side also seems to be true. If I'm communicating in my Dominant function, and it happens to be someone else's 4th function, THEY tune out really quick.

So I started to wonder how I could communicate in Si or Fe in order to keep their attention longer.

And it turns out I have absolutely no clue how to do that.

It seems like this might be a learnable skill, though. Kind of like learning a language. I'm not sure where to start, and my thinking about how to proceed is rudimentary at the moment.

But if I want to hold the attention of a Si or Fe, maybe I simply insert more sensory details into my conversation. Or I incorporate more emotion words.

Or I study the speech patterns of someone who is Si or Fe dominant and mimic their patterns.

It'll probably feel "fake" or "irrelevant" to me to communicate that way.

But---I know how it feels when I'm talking with another person whose dominant function is Thinking, and I'm like, "YESSSSS! FINALLY! Someone who THINKS!"

So I want to gain the skill of giving THEM that same feeling (even if it's a weak/lame version of it) when their stack is different than mine.

Example: Let's take the hubs.

ISFJ.

So he's Si-Fe-Ti-Ne

Same functions as in my stack, but different order.

He tunes out when I communicate. And I tune out when he communicates.

Awesome.

So what if I could strategically communicate using his preferential cognitive process? That's what I'm trying to figure out how to do.

Has anyone else experimented with this or gotten anywhere?
 

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I noticed.

And I happen to be married to one. :rofl: :eek::clench::inpain:

I can read and analyze to my heart's content, but at the end of the day, I'm not good at operating in the social/emotional stuff. So I was just curious if anyone had any tips or real-world experiences that you've found to be helpful when communicating with others.

I was discussing this topic with someone recently, and they made this comment:

"Here’s an interesting thing to keep in mind: In a 60 minute time frame, you’ll spend approximately 30 min in your dominant, 15 min in your aux, 9 min in your 3rd function and 6 min in your 4th function. So you start to tune out & feel restless in 6 minutes if somebody’s operating in your 4th function."

This is obviously an exaggeration, as no single hour is going to be that cut-and-dried.

But I did find it insightful to observe that I'll start to tune out in 6 minutes if somebody’s operating in my 4th function.

I've started to watch for this, and it seems to be true.

The flip side also seems to be true. If I'm communicating in my Dominant function, and it happens to be someone else's 4th function, THEY tune out really quick.

So I started to wonder how I could communicate in Si or Fe in order to keep their attention longer.

And it turns out I have absolutely no clue how to do that.

It seems like this might be a learnable skill, though. Kind of like learning a language. I'm not sure where to start, and my thinking about how to proceed is rudimentary at the moment.

But if I want to hold the attention of a Si or Fe, maybe I simply insert more sensory details into my conversation. Or I incorporate more emotion words.

Or I study the speech patterns of someone who is Si or Fe dominant and mimic their patterns.

It'll probably feel "fake" or "irrelevant" to me to communicate that way.

But---I know how it feels when I'm talking with another person whose dominant function is Thinking, and I'm like, "YESSSSS! FINALLY! Someone who THINKS!"

So I want to gain the skill of giving THEM that same feeling (even if it's a weak/lame version of it) when their stack is different than mine.

Example: Let's take the hubs.

ISFJ.

So he's Si-Fe-Ti-Ne

Same functions as in my stack, but different order.

He tunes out when I communicate. And I tune out when he communicates.

Awesome.

So what if I could strategically communicate using his preferential cognitive process? That's what I'm trying to figure out how to do.

Has anyone else experimented with this or gotten anywhere?

You shouldn't be needing to communicate (at least verbally) in your tertiary and inferior functions in order to please anyone, even your partner. Are they communicating in Ti and Ne? Probably not. There's a balance currently just how it should be, why would you ruin that balance?

You will naturally become more like eachother over the years and you'll end up meeding in the middle at some point in terms of function development. Heck, I've been with my ESFJ girlfriend for a little over a year and we've grown so much (she's still terrible at using Ne and Ti, but she has her moments of revelation) and I still don't make my bed in the morning (unless we make the bed in the morning together), but I'm putting in the same effort to build my business every day, following a strict diet and workout regime (never had a problem with that though) and washing the dishes, sorting and folding my clothes in one designated location rather than throwing them everywhere in the apartment. I also cook for myself every day. These are all examples of Si, my inferior function (it's likely at least as strong as my tertiary at this point though, I've been working hard on it since I was 13).

In fact I've found out that my girl gets extremely turned on whenever she sees me cooking or doing the dishes. The other thing I found out is that I like doing the dishes. So it's been a win-win so far.

Which shows that you don't need to communicate (at least verbally) in said functions, but you can him that you're putting in effort to be more like them! You shouldn't expect the same in return, but it's very possible they'll try to engage you in your higher functions as well after they see you're doing this.
 

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This thread reminds me of when my best friends started talking about enneagram two years ago and it took me 14 months of ignoring them before I finally tackled the stupid tests because, let’s face it, if all your friends are fascinated by something you have to be too or just live with never participating in the conversation. Then I found out that my type is the most suspicious and reluctant of all types to take the enneagram test and that made me laugh. So here’s my contribution. I test as a 6w7.

On MBTI I’m an ENTJ but being a girl who can easily and methodically point out the flaws of the humans around her has never gotten me very far so I taught myself how to reverse it and just encourage ppl to do the positive side or I try to keep my mouth shut. That’s hard. Lol.

It’s highly amusing to me when other ENTJ’s point out ppls problems though.. then when they receive respect for doing so I’m in awe cuz I really want to point out stuff a lot but I don’t cuz it’s mean. I’m currently working on a project so I can get paid to point out issues and boss ppl around to help them. That’s fun.

Looking at memes that validate my feelings make me feel better if I’m having a rough day. Also, the idiosyncrasies of any type make me giggle because we are all so strange! These chicks on YouTube use hyperbole and humor to explain the types and almost all their videos are amusing. I like this thread. Simon, your insight into this subject is impressive. I’m glad you’re on the forum.

For your viewing pleasure...

View: https://youtu.be/iL-FP4qS_lo
 

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So what if I could strategically communicate using his preferential cognitive process? That's what I'm trying to figure out how to do.

Has anyone else experimented with this or gotten anywhere?

Here's something I used to do as a salesperson. I learned this not through psychology after learning a vocabulary of pathos ethos logos from Aristotle.

It boils down to speaking the language the person is seeking.
Not ''parroting'' not ''matching their frame of stance'' and not half of the garbage call centers think is vital to sales.

I might be half asleep in my chair, clipping my nails but the person on the phone feels understood.
They might even be ecstatic with the conversation, simply because I'm speaking their language.




Logos
I want to know does it work? How does it work? What are the details of making it work?

Get me as a customer, and I want details. I like the dull, dry nitty-gritty information.
Drape the timing chain over the cam sprocket and hold it in place with one hand while working the chain around the crank sprocket with your other hand.


Pathos
or the emotional appeal means to persuade an audience by appealing to their emotions.
This kind of person wants an emotional story. The whyyyyyy something is being done, not the how.
These people want the tear-jerking story, the deep-seated validation from hearing a success or misery from another person's mistakes.
Hear the incredible story of the camel who could!

Then there is the Ethos the less understood and hard to describe my myself type
(Thus demonstrating the differences between personality by my confusion)

establishment of credibility using a well-known name
Katy Perry wears THIS perfume.
Study dead bodies like Jake Paul!


These are also defined as ''different learning styles'' or different personalities. Whatever label you slap on it, people have other ways to communicate.

Have you ever spoken with someone who makes you grit your teeth because they just ..are not making sense?
While the words they speak are English, their language is confusing, and because of this, their conversation becomes infuriating, sad, or nicht wichtig

Put yourself in the shoes of a customer who is color blind in a store selling beds with no accessibility, and you will see what I mean. Just check the colors! They say as they start to dart away.
To you, it means something very different, not unlike someone suddenly speaking french in the middle of a sales pitch.

Ah Bourgeoisie! they exclaim, and you storm out being called a burger.
Or when being shown swatches the bright purple they point to is a dark blue, and the ''cherry-red'' is brown.

And when the person doesn't understand how colors work (because to you that's how colors work)
then you start to see the disconnection happening between everyday conversations with different types of people.
Like a radio wave on the wrong station, it comes out not clear, or not pleasant. Sometimes, it is not at all.

While people aren't radios, you can still tune in to what they are trying to say because (thankfully!) there are only a few frequencies they use.
And you can make yourself heard by speaking their langue if they aren't bright enough to speak yours.

Take each phrase you intend to say and spin it thrice.
Once for the emotional, Once for those seeking authority, and finally a sprinkling of details.
Some will press for details, Others will be more emotionally invested, and finally, some will be swayed by other words.
 

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It's going to be a work in progress your whole life. Also, because of the 7th slot Fi you're probably going to continue questioning your type for a long time. Ironically this further cements the Ne + Ti.

You likely won't ever be as organized as a Dominant/Auxiliary Si type and thank god for that. Their desire for order, doing things "the way they should be done" and consumerist mindset borders insanity. But according to them we're the crazy weirdos.

You know what makes us less insane than them? We can actually see through their narrow-minded, lateral way of thinking and realize that in their reality they're 100% right. On the other hand though I've never seen an Si dom/aux truly understand we're wired differently. To them, there's only one way of doing things - "the right way" or "the way everyone does it". Philosophy is "a waste of time" and talking about the vastness of the Universe, its laws and metaphysics makes their brains fry like the ending scene in Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull.
You sound like a CS.Joseph Shill XD

-fellow ENTP
 

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I'm an ENFP, and I've loved what you shared here with us.

Your lovely contributions on the topic have been diligently dissected, highlighted, and annotated in my notes for quick reference as my personal Modus Operandi.

Since fully embracing my strengths as an Extroverted Intuitive and leveraging the weakness mitigation tips you outline, my state of being has improved drastically. I can focus, I can engage, I can tune in and out of whatever I want, and I can let my imagination take me for a ride. I feel like a child again, and every day is a blast!

What you call Speed of Production test, I prefer to use the term Rate of Penetration (ROP) which I learned from Oil and Gas and I think is a hilarious term. I've scheduled an ROP check every 3rd day on my Google Calendar.

Every day, I go for a morning hike up the mountain and wander through the woods. This meditative practice is truly where my best ideas come, as I'm most in-tune with my intuitive. Since adopting ROP checks, I've starting Spiraling further into my ideas. Whereas in the past it would take me a long while before I circled back to the other interests of my curiosity, with the ROP checks I keep spiraling deeper within the latest interests I've had. On my morning walks, I can map out exactly what comes of the day, and why I'm so stoked for it all.

I can't thank you enough for piecing together this post - how you verbalize seemingly intimate and individual aspects of my personality with such clarity is beyond me. You see the patterns, and you lay them out in a manner it can be used.

Many thanks friend!

P.S. I've attached a couple of docs - these are my personal notes over the topic. Figured perhaps the mapping-out of these ideas can also be of use to someone else.
 

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I revisit this thread every time someone bumps it, and it lightens my mood. It empowers me. It reminds me I'm not the mess I think I am.

You just know one thing for sure, if you were interested in something one day, you will be interested in that thing again. You just can't predict when.

Last week I came back to a project that hadn't touched in a year, which in turn hadn't touched in another year or so. However each time I come back it takes more shape. I'm glad what I'm doing isn't a race to the market though, or I'd be lost.

I've added a 3rd post-it to my monitor:

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It's like anything else in life.

Nothing is 100% accurate about anything in life.

Many things will impact your results on something like a Myers Briggs:
  • Not understanding certain words or questions in the test
  • Not answering as your true self, but what society told you to be and how to act
  • Your mood for the day
  • Your mood for the week
  • Memory
  • Your interpetaion of what the questions are/mean
  • etc
But these above will impact you on ANY test you take in life, right?

I took the MBTI test over several years growing up. I would be 1 of 3 things each time. Talking about maybe 1 time a year growing up. On average though, it would come back as 1 type the majority of the time. The minority would be 1 of the other 2.

A few years ago, I decided to take it on purpose many times with a few days or weeks between tests.

Out of many many tries, I kept coming back to INTJ. There were a few times something else would pop up but it was very small %.

Based on that, I decided to do the same routine with Ennagram. Same type of results, majority was 1 type but I kept getting another a slim amount of times.

I then did a lot of research into INTJ and 5w4's online. Not taking the test anymore, but research into careers, weakness, strengths, etc. All of that research kinda confirmed both labels.

I then proceeded to take other tests like the Strength's Finder test and more. Many of them came back with data that reinforced the INTJ and 5W4 outcome.

Within the last year, I took an even more in-depth approach.

I'm leaning a lot on INTP now.

Very very very similar in many ways to INTJ. Still connects on 5w4 and the other tests I took.

I don't think you can ever be 100%, but knowing at least 90% can make a difference.

You probably need to take it a few times and really get down to answering these things honestly from yourself, your core.

It might take months to do that.
You might want to look into cognitive functions to have a better grasp of you being INTP or INTJ.


This test below is fairly good. Better to look at the functions stack rather than 16personalities test(which is based on big 5, not myers briggs).

 

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You might want to look into cognitive functions to have a better grasp of you being INTP or INTJ.


This test below is fairly good. Better to look at the functions stack rather than 16personalities test(which is based on big 5, not myers briggs).


Thanks, I took that and it came back INTP

The last letter ( P ) was really faint in the display. Oddly enough they had an explanation for this.

They said it might as well not even be there ( the P ) as it was unclear if I would be a P or a J. So that kinda confirms why I thought for years I was a J, but then would score P a lot in the INT
 

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You might want to look into cognitive functions to have a better grasp of you being INTP or INTJ.


This test below is fairly good. Better to look at the functions stack rather than 16personalities test(which is based on big 5, not myers briggs).

I took this one as well. I got ENTP for grant function type and myers function type. I got INTP for Myers Briggs type but the I was so faint, it was almost invisible. This confirms a lot of what I knew already.

I highly recommend reading a book called

"Do What You Are: Discover the Perfect Career for You Through the Secrets of Personality Type"​

if anyone else here is as unsatisfied with their direction as I am. It gave me some insight and confirmation into what my strengths and weaknesses are.

By the way the top 3 occupations listed for ENTPS were

• Entrepreneur
• Inventor
• Management consultant

I also found another site that has a type test. Run by a neuroscientist from UCLA.

What was said earlier about hard deadlines is very true. You need the external push to get things done, and when working for yourself that's often not there. I've been toying with the idea of a software accountability system that's designed to help you stay on track with a partner. Targeted towards solopreneurs and founders. I already use a lot of software blockers and feel this might be useful.
 

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Hey guys, this post inspired me to write a draft for a (hypothetical) productivity/organization/calendaring email newsletter. It's about a specific tactic I've had in mind that is very aligned with the advice in the OP. I figured since I just wrote it all out, I might as well share it here.

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I have a tendency to get enamored with project ideas that may a bit too grand in scope... One of those ideas keeps recurring for me, and it's closely related to why I love using a calendar (for stuff I've DONE, not stuff I plan to do) for my personal productivity.

I keep thinking I should go through all of my various types of personal records: journals, email correspondence, private messages, forum posts, software commits, passport stamps, plane tickets, invoices, rental agreements, etc. and use everything I can find as source material for an ultimate DONE list.

Imagine a private web page with a timeline of your entire life (at least your adult life) — mapped out, browsable, searchable, annotated, hyperlinked, tagged... personal stats, life events, and most importantly progress on projects. If I want to see every time I worked on some particular programming topic, I can pull up all of the relevant entries in my timeline. If I want have a project that's been on the back burner for 7 years, and now I feel like working on it, I can pull up all of my previous progress, see what I did, see where I left off, and jump right back into it today.

I'm a guy with dozens of projects on the back burner over years and years. The good news is, I do make progress on, and even finish, a lot of these projects. The appeal of this ultimate-life-timeline-done-list-thing is that I can get on track with projects a lot faster, and when I'm struggling for motivation, I can just browse everything I've done in the past and see what I find interesting to work on today.

In some ways, this is just too big of an idea, I can see myself going down a rabbit hole building an ill-conceived system that is too meta to every really be useful. But if I apply some of my favorite productivity principles, this becomes a very reasonable project.

What we need to make this work: a real commitment to a minimum viable product (meaning get my ego out of the way and find a solution that starts producing results this afternoon), an aesthetic of simplicity, and Larry Wall's laziness as a virtue.

In other words, if I get my head out of the clouds and get real, I can start getting exactly what I'm looking for just by using my calendar. I'm already using my calendar as much as possible to track my fuzzy plans and what I actually did, including notes about progress on projects, links to the context/resources I need to pick projects back up, sometimes notes about where I went and who I saw, and of course hard deadlines like meetings that I've scheduled with clients. I am also starting each week by creating a calendar entry that contains a "menu" of things I've been interested in recently, which serves the same purpose as being able to browse through my past projects and pick out what I want to work on.

So if I really want to create this ultimate DONE list, I can start small, right now, by taking one source of data (e.g. one of the handwritten notebooks I've filled up with journal entries) and start adding historical information to my calendar. Then I can experiment with different ways of tagging, linking and otherwise organizing a small set of data... once I have a simple system for creating calendar entries that meets my needs (must keep it simple!) then the job of turning all of my unstructured source material into a structured data on my calendar just becomes one more project on the back burner that I can pick up and work on when it feels like the right thing to do!

Let me know if you think this is a dumb idea, good idea, or if you see ways that this idea could be a lot better.

Maybe you'd like Roam/Obsidian or Milanote.
Or even Left -> Left by Rek & Devine


And before I read further (it took me 5 hours to get to page 3, I couldn't be less focussed today):
Thank you so much @Remiremi
You described me perfectly. I did the test 4 or 5 times in the past 15 years or so, always ENTP. ADHD (not diagnosed) and already my mum told me, 20 years ago "You just don't do the stuff you find boring or see no sense in it (for you)".
Yep, exactly. But sometimes insights must mature, right? You didn't tell me anything new today, but today it finally .... seeded.
I wrote an introduction thread here some time ago and always wanted to come back but was ashamed everyone would tell me "wow, always hopping on and off" and "FOCUS!!111" and "bullshit you tell yourself to not getting started". So it took me months to come back again and I think, if I hadn't seen this thread here it would have taken me more weeks or months to write my next post.
Now I'm more confident to write my next post (and atm I'm also motivated so I have to use that I think), also thanks for that!
(And now I finally know, why I'll never make a bug-fix version for the video games I made....)

Embrace the curiosity!

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I don't really believe in MBTI but I have ADD apparently and I'm always missing deadlines, etc. because I just end up following my curiosity from one thing to another, so this is super helpful and empowering—thank you so much!
 

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I don't really believe in MBTI but I have ADD apparently and I'm always missing deadlines, etc. because I just end up following my curiosity from one thing to another, so this is super helpful and empowering—thank you so much!

ENFP or INFP.
 

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I’m just floored by this. Absolutely amazing! Perfect breakdown of exactly how I’m wired. I wish I could give this a million likes. I truly appreciate the insight and the mitigation tips. Lifesaver. Thank you so much for posting this.
 

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Maybe you'd like Roam/Obsidian or Milanote.
Or even Left -> Left by Rek & Devine


And before I read further (it took me 5 hours to get to page 3, I couldn't be less focussed today):
Thank you so much @Remiremi
You described me perfectly. I did the test 4 or 5 times in the past 15 years or so, always ENTP. ADHD (not diagnosed) and already my mum told me, 20 years ago "You just don't do the stuff you find boring or see no sense in it (for you)".
Yep, exactly. But sometimes insights must mature, right? You didn't tell me anything new today, but today it finally .... seeded.
I wrote an introduction thread here some time ago and always wanted to come back but was ashamed everyone would tell me "wow, always hopping on and off" and "FOCUS!!111" and "bullshit you tell yourself to not getting started". So it took me months to come back again and I think, if I hadn't seen this thread here it would have taken me more weeks or months to write my next post.
Now I'm more confident to write my next post (and atm I'm also motivated so I have to use that I think), also thanks for that!
(And now I finally know, why I'll never make a bug-fix version for the video games I made....)

Embrace the curiosity!

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I’m just floored by this. Absolutely amazing! Perfect breakdown of exactly how I’m wired. I wish I could give this a million likes. I truly appreciate the insight and the mitigation tips. Lifesaver. Thank you so much for posting this.
And so happy to have helped you too :)
 

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Hello friends, are you an ENTP? Are you struggling with finishing things? Are you wondering why you can't seem to follow the monk-like discipline you crave so much?

This post is for you. (ps: This post may also apply to INTP, INFP, and ENFP, but it's not guaranteed. It has been primarily written for my fellow ENTP in mind.)

If you are a bit like me, and you probably are, you admire people of the ENTJ or INTJ types. The Elon Musks, the smart lads with the incredible power of execution.

They decide to do something and they just do it.

And you want that power, you want to be awesome at execution...

You have so many ideas (that you believe are amazing and revolutionary) if you concretize those ideas you will be on top of the world, don't you?

But when you start to work on them on your own, as a side-project or a business, your work ethic is gone, nowhere to be seen.

That's weird because you have an incredible work ethic everywhere else, be it at your job or in a team. You are always craving to learn more and become better. You always produce top-grade stuff and you are relentless. You are proud of this. And people agree with that statement.

You then, think you can make it out on your own, as skillful as you are, it would be a shame not to try.

But when you take the leap, you come to quickly realize, it's gonna be hard than expected.

First obstacle? Yourself.

You just can't seem to do what you know needs to be done.

You face a procrastination level more intense than anything you've never met in your life. Except maybe for that time you wanted to confess your love to your crush as a teenager.

You need to understand you are not a cold-blooded strategist that will follow a plan to completion.

You must understand this: You are an explorer! You go where your interest leads you. And when you are motivated by a will to explore your curiosity, YOU ARE UNSTOPPABLE.

The other side of the coin says, when you are disinterested in the tasks at hand, you feel bored as hell and will probably find a way to escape from doing the tasks at hand.

Your driving force is not the perspective of making shit loads of cash, neither it is the perspective of freedom, and sorry to break it to you, your driving force is not your desire to change the world for the better.

Your driving force is your curiosity. This is your motor.

With curiosity, you are a tsunami. Nothing will get in the way of the answer you seek.

Without curiosity, you are very good at finding excuses to not do what bores you out.

Why does it matter?

It matters because you will probably do the following mistake...

You will decide on a goal and following contemporary advice decide to make it S.M.A.R.T. Which basically means realistic with an arbitrary deadline.

Your strategizing mind will help you devise a sound plan of action, and your knack for creativity help you discerned a way you can even kill two birds with one stone.

You talk about it with whoever might be willing to listen and you feel on top of the world.

The first day? You are killing it. The second day? You are killing it.

The third day, you get sidetracked...

One month later? You haven't even achieved 10% of what you set out to do.

You were supposed to be able to do it in three months by focusing intensely.

Now, this seem very compromised. You feel miserable and guilty. You wonder if you are any good at anything.

This scenario keeps happening again, again, and again... Until you give up or you stumble upon the truth.

Let's give a closer look at your primary hypothesis.

So you were thinking you can do it in just three months by focusing intensely?

Well good news, you were half right.

You can do it...

...But not in three months.

Why?

Because even though you can focus intensely consistently on the subject you are curious about.

You can't stay curious about the same subject consistently.

So your curiosity will lead you to places you can't predict.

You just know one thing for sure, if you were interested in something one day, you will be interested in that thing again. You just can't predict when.

You will actually bring that project to completion effortlessly, but not in the shortest time possible.

Instead of the three months, you estimated, it will likely be six to nine months.

And that's ok, because that won't be the only thing you have done in those six to nine months.

You have an unprecedented capacity for multithreading, you just can't allocate all your threads to one project. It must be different projects. This is how you are.

If you are curious about something, you will want to drop the ball on your current project to satisfy your curiosity. And you must do it.

But every time you follow your curiosity you must find a way to get away with more than just knowledge.

Unused knowledge is ephemeral, vanishing as swiftly as it was acquired.

You must build something from the fruit of your recently acquired knowledge that will stand the test of time and bring you a small but lasting advantage.

It doesn't need to be perfect, it just needs to be there.

THE KEY THING TO TAKE AWAY FROM THIS: You must shift from a consumer to a producer.

You must start producing stuff. Start businesses, start a blog, do everything you want, but DO. (keyword do, not just read about/learn about etc....)

It's normal for you to getting informed about something you are interested in, but you need to act on it. You must build something out of it. You must share it with the world.

You must create things and release them in the world. I REPEAT. You must create things and release them in the word.

You don't have to follow a great mastermind plan, you don't have to follow a routine or fixed planning. You don't have to torture yourself to heck out every last bit of productivity there's inside you.

You just need to listen to yourself and follow your curiosity. And to do it everyday.

Your strength is the speed at which you can pivot.

You can change your mind and start working on something different than what you were doing, at full speed, and immediately.

You can survey a complicated question an bring back multiple possible answers at the speed of light.

You are impulsive and adaptable. You can do anything you want because you will always find a way... As long as you are interested.

This surges of productivity come at a cost. Your interest in a particular thing has a very short shelf-life.
One to two days top. Sometimes it's less than a couple of hours.

If you don't catch the wave of curiosity, it's gone, and sometimes it's gone for several weeks or months.

So expecting yourself to work on the same project, without interruptions every day for three months in a row? ... You are being oblivious to your own nature, my friend.

You probably know that by now, the biggest predictor of entrepreneurial success is consistency.

Then how can you expect success if you can't stay on track and schedule for more than two weeks?

You need to build a different kind of consistency than a rigid routine and prison-like tight schedules.

You need to play on your strength: Explore and Exploit ASAP.

Don't explore something without bringing back a treasure from your adventure.


Examples:

  • You were curious about nutrition and muscle-growth gym regimen? You binge-learned every possible way to do it (instead of doing your job lol). You just acquired way too much knowledge to expect yourself to remember it a week from now. So applying it consistently? Out of your league.
    The solution? Swiftly assemble a training and nutrition guide based on what you just explored, package it in a nice PDF, and then share it with the world. You can decide to monetize it or just to share it for free on a forum, it doesn't matter. It will help some people, and that's good for your karma. Second benefit, the day you will want to actually go to the gym, you can just follow your own guideline. Two birds, one stone.
  • You are learning Python and discover the weird world of Decorators and Closures. This stuff is basically out of your league and at your level you will probably never use it. But you can't shake off the feeling. You start binging and learning mystical stuff. Before you go back to the real world to what will actually move you forward in the grand scheme of things, put on together in one shot a blog post that you will publish on Medium behind the paywall. Boom! Three birds, one stone: Personal Branding & Portfolio : check; a very slim source of additional passive income: check; a quick way to retrieve your long-lost knowledge about closures when you finally need it, three years from now: check.
  • Well you see the idea, indulge your instinct and before the honeymoon ends, build something that will last. In this way, you will shift from an inconsistent being to a prolific and polymath builder. You will shift from consumer to producer.







So by now, if you are an ENTP, you are probably envisioning what I am talking about.

I want to add a couple of other points... Playing on your strength also means you need to mitigate your weakness.

Your strength and weaknesses are two faces of the same coin. You can't get one without the other.

During my short time on earth as an entrepreneurial ENTP, I have summarized below everything I know about mitigating our innate weaknesses.









Weakness mitigation tips #1: You can only respect HARD DEADLINES.

There's two kind of deadlines: HARD deadlines and SOFT deadlines.

HARD deadlines are deadlines you must respect. When you are under hard deadlines, you work like crazy to respect them. Those are often imposed by a promise or the external environment. Hard Deadlines are why you have so much work ethic when you work for somebody else.

SOFT deadlines are deadlines you don't have obligation to respect. Basically they are deadlines you can bullshit yourselves out of easily. Often those are arbitrary and self-imposed, for example, SMART Goals. Soft deadlines are why you have so few work ethic when you work for yourself.

The litmus test is simple, "Can I find a way to not respect that deadline?".
If you start generating a thousand ideas about how to do so, then it's a soft deadline and this deadline means nothing to you and will bring you nothing. (except guilt)


So you being too clever may start to think? "Oh, gotcha I just need to change every deadline into a HARD deadline".

NO! Don't do this. The only way to do this is to take risks and to put yourself at a disadvantage. You are basically gambling on yourself just to create the pressure necessary to do the work. This is a horrible way to live your life.

(ex of this destructive behavior: Damaging relationships just to be sure you will do something. Wasting all your money to let the pressure of feeding your family let you work like crazy, etc...)

As an ENTP what you crave is freedom, this way of proceeding (a.k.a. burn your bridges) is the polar opposite of freedom. It will make you feel miserable and burn you out, also it sucks because you are destructing what you build to build more. This is terrible. Don't do it.

Just understand that soft deadlines mean nothing to you and plan accordingly.

Don't gamble on a deadline you can bullshit yourself out of.

Soft deadlines are a distraction to you, those are noise. SMART goals stuff like that, forget those, they don't work with you.

But also, don't take on too many hard deadlines at the same time.

Those hard deadlines are like prison chains to you. And what you crave is freedom.

If you enchain yourself too much, you will burnout.


This leave the question. How an ENTP can get stuff done?

Weakness Mitigation tip #2: Boredom is like a steel wall to you. You can't get through it and have to wait for the door of curiosity to open.

So what should I do? The ENTP equivalent of taking massive actions.

You must play to your strength and mitigate your weakness.

Follow your curiosity and build something from your exploration. Build it quickly, in a couple of hours or max. You must build it before your curiosity wither.

Understand that boredom is your limit. You can only go through boredom excruciatingly. This is your hard deadline for every project, you must finish the milestone before boredom takes you and your curiosity wants to go somewhere else.

A quick note about perfection?
What you build must never be perfect. Perfection is your enemy, it makes you anxious and buries you in analysis paralysis. (= you don't do shit and feel shitty about it)

What should I do when I am bored with a project and want to do something else?

You must stop and do something else. You will get back to the project eventually if you were interested once, you will be interested twice.

Weakness Mitigation tip #3: Don't make plans more detailed than a rough outline.

A detailed and carefully crafted plan is wasted on you... You will never follow it through.

Don't spend time creating detailed stratagems to get to your goals. THIS IS A WASTE OF TIME, DO SOMETHING ELSE INSTEAD.

You are tactical and agile. The time horizon you can plan on is limited to a couple of hours. It's very short.

For the long term, you can guess how things are gonna roughly. Your intuition power is often on point.

It's even more powerful when you feed your intuition with data. How do you get your data?

Every time you want to plan your future, turn to your past instead and log what you have been doing in the last few days.

You want to empirically determine your speed of production. Take the time to keep track of what you did during the day.

You can use this basic template:

Questions to gather data about your explorations:
1. What have I been interested in the last few day?
2. How did I go about exploring that interests?
3. What did I get out of it?
4. How long did it took?
5. What have I build-out of what I discovered? How have I used it?
6. How long did it took?
7. Is there thing I can do better next time? Things I need to avoid next time?


Answer those questions every two to three days. (Optimally, every time you finish a cycle of Exploration / Exploitation)

Store those answers in a way you can easily access those later. (Don't just write on a spare napkin and throw it away).

Weakness Mitigation tip # 4: Don't try to follow a perfect routine.

In the same way, hard deadlines are a chain to you, trying to respect arbitrary daily planning will lower your available energy for the day.

Instead, have a shortlist of 5 mandatory items you must do during the day and that you can do quickly.

If you can't cross every item of that list in less than 100 minutes, the list is too long.

An example can be:
  • Meditate 10 minutes.
  • Walk the dog.
  • Do the dishes.
  • Quick workout at the gym.
  • Write in my journal.
Sometimes you will meditate in the morning, sometimes before you go to bed, sometimes during the commute. Doesn't matter, you need the flexibility to do things when you are ready for those.

What matters is that you crossed every item of the list, not when you crossed those.

The rest of the day, follow your curiosity relentlessly and get something out of it.

Weakness Mitigation tip #5: Keep your Anxiety in check... It keeps your from entering a Flow state.

First of all, You must strive to get into Flow. Getting into flow every day is your bread and butter as an ENTP.

Though there's one thing that can keep you from entering a Flow state even if you are well rested, in good health, and will push you to immediate-rewards behavior.(ex:... alcohol, infinite scrolling, eating way too much sugar, gambling, buying spree, opening 200+ tabs on your web browser about a shitty subject you don't even care about)

This thing is Anxiety.

You must learn to effectively manage your anxiety level. Because when highly stressed and without a hard deadline, you are basically dysfunctional and will get nothing done.
(Please remember that high-stress level and hard pressure to get things done is a miserable way to live your life. It's okay once in a while but don't abuse it.)

So do things that help you rest and recover. Make a conscious effort to recover and balance your innate restlessness.
Examples:
- Sport you genuinely enjoy
- Meditation
- Light encounter with your social circle
- Playing games
- Read books unrelated to your goals. (fiction, or history)
- Get a massage.
- Dance, Concert, Restaurant
- Journaling, gratitudes etc...

Weakness Mitigation tip #6: Inject a bit of order in your life.

Then, because you are so future and possibly oriented you need help to organize things that happened in your past.
  • Some of us are a mess when it comes to meetings and time constraints or remembering special events like birthdays. Get a calendar, note everything inside, check it often.
  • Your life memory is foggy at best and can't remember specifics even if you try hard, it often means you are totally wrong about your achievements and efforts (often wrongly believe you never did anything right) ⇒ Spend time every day to journal about your life, log your decisions and log your achievements. Include specifics like mood, time spent on task etc... When in doubt about what you have been doing, you can read those logs to help you access data you would have forget otherwise.
  • Revisiting your life is very difficult for you as you get immediately distracted. If you believe you have a trauma from your childhood (and most people have) Consider going to a psychologist who will guide you through the fumes of your past.
  • You want a boost of productivity and increase your odds of success in the short term. Get an accountability coach that will help you add some order in your life. (Getting a coach is one of the ways to help you achieve soft deadlines you would not be able to honor otherwise), it also helps you clarify and be more surgical about your focus.
  • You forget the things your family / entourage needs you to do (do the laundry, send wishes for birthday etc...)

Weakness Mitigation tip #7: Become more aware of your mind, thoughts and body.

You must strive to be aware of your mental state, to identify when you start to get bored and must finish asap or to identify when you are curious about something.

The best way to do so is to practice mindfulness meditation (yes seriously) and to do sports that demand to be aware of the mind-body connection.

This will help you be more tuned toward your sensations and thoughts. Which is key to live a more fluid and free life.

Weakness Mitigation tip #8: GET RID OF YOUR PHONE / SOCIAL MEDIA
Phones are engineered to suck your attention away from whatever your doing. Your attention is a raw resource they monetize.

As an ENTP you are curious and novelty-seeker, and you are very competent at indulging your curiosity for hours on end.


Attention vampires have access to brilliant minds that they pay a lot to spend their day engineering way to suck your attention for the sake of ad profits.


Against a phone, you are at the bottom of the food chain.

PHONES ARE YOUR NATURAL ENEMY.

Possible solutions to mitigate the damage from your phone:
- Destroy it.
- Use apps blocker like
STAY-FOCUSED (android)
- Use phone blocker like FOREST.
(ps: it doubles as a Pomodoro app, and is gamified which makes you less likely to bypass it, you sly fox)
- Use a way to track and realize how much time you waste on your phone, like STAY-FOCUSED. (prepare to be shocked)
- Change the color of your phone in grey-scale or invert white/black, attention vampires use flashy colors to suck you in, you can fight that by getting rid of colors.
How to do it with iPhone here, and how to do it with Android here.
- Destroy it.

- Buy a NOKIA 3310, a hand-held GPS, a vintage MP3 player, a nice watch, and a paper agenda. If you think about it, everybody has a phone so you don't really need one, as you can just ask to borrow the functionality you lack.

I repeat. GET RID OF YOUR PHONE. Thank me later.

Weakness Mitigation tip #9: You don't do well in a pond of sharks, you need a supportive and encouraging environment.


You are trusting and willing to see the best face of everyone you meet. You want to collaborate and share your knowledge.

You are good in a team and with people, especially when you can assume everybody is on the same side.

You want to trust people, and you usually demonstrate trust first. Keep doing that, it's one of your competitive edges.

But a word of caution, trusting people first doesn't mean people should be safe double-crossing you.

Of course, some foe will want to abuse your willingness to help.

If somebody abuses your trusting identity YOU MUST RETALIATE. I am serious.

You will know when somebody abuses your kindness. Your Machiavellian side will know immediately. DON'T MAKE EXCUSES FOR THE VILLAINS.

THEY CROSS YOU, YOU CROSS THEM. PERIOD.

ONCE YOU HAVE DEMONSTRATED YOU CAN BITE AS WELL AS YOU CAN SMILE
and both sides are bleeding, YOU CAN THEN SHOW FORGIVENESS.

AFTER ALL, YOU DON'T LIKE CONFLICT.


This assumes that you are evolving in an environment where people willing to screw you are an anomaly, and most people are on your side.

If you realize that people wanting to screw you over are the norm, then you are in a pond of shark AND YOU MUST RUNAWAY ASAP.

Let the evil political game and the House of Cards vibe for the people who thrive in those corrosive environments.

This is not you.

You will thrive more in a group that is trusting and encouraging, united in a common cause.

The fact that you have a developed Machiavellian mind doesn't mean you must use it at 100%.

If people around you are mean, calculating, or vain. Leave, without looking back.

Weakness Mitigation tip #10: Don't bet on speed. Build an advantage for the long game instead.

Because, when you start out as an ENTP, you will never be the first to arrive somewhere...
(When you will become an experienced ENTP, this will change, as your tactical velocity will be unheard of, but when you start, well... You are not the fastest.)
... You must not pick your battles based on rewards correlated with a short time to arrival... (Example, you are starting out with dropshipping, you see everybody is going for fidget spinners. Don't go for it, you will arrive after the battle.)
... Instead, You must pick your battle based on long term compounded rewards. (Example, learning skills that are difficult and valuable to master. Code, Copywriting, Writing, Consulting.)

Then once you start to have an edge that is difficult to replicate...(Example; you are a blockchain enthusiast, but you probably know things more in-depth than most of the other blockchain enthusiasts.)
... Pick a battle that will complement it and that triggers your curiosity (Example, starting a blog about blockchain + learning how to do first-class SEO).

Even though everybody was faster than you in the short run... (Example, your accountability partner Tom became a millionaire just in two years, and you were still in your parent basement)
... On the long run, you will establish a valuable strategic advantage that is hard for anybody else to replicate. (Example: Five years later, your Blockchain blog is ranked first on google and is monetized with ads, You keep getting people asking you to interview you and you started a consulting business about blockchain. You never made that much money in your life and you now have a strong network. You basically do what you want, when you want, with who you want, from anywhere you want.).




....


Alright I am getting bored, just one last thing before we go...

TLDR: implement the code written below in your daily life. It will do the trick, I know you will figure out the specifics on your own.


ENTP?

Be Patient and Restless




You must be patient in the long term.

You will get where you want.

But you won't get there in the shortest amount of time possible.

Because you will take so many detours.

So be patient.




You must be restless in the sort term.

Want to explore an option, fine, do it.

Go all the way.

Unleash your curiosity.

... But you must make a pact with yourself.

Every time you unleash your curiosity, you must build a memento and share it with the world.

A simple recipe...


1/ Explore until bored.

2/ Quickly build something valuable for others.

3/ Share it to the people who most need it.


You are an explorer and every time you go on an adventure, you bring back wonderful treasures, undiscovered before.

Promise yourself you won't keep those treasures to yourself and will share those with the world.

Once your oath is taken, go.

Explore.

Follow your curiosity relentlessly.

Everyday.

You are free now.




BONUS:

What does it look like when you are not playing to your strength and mitigating your weakness?:


You are doing something, let's call it interest A. You begin to be interested in interest B.
You decide to keep doing interest A.
You slowly get bored and pick up your phone.
Five hours later, you haven't finished working on interest A.
You feel guilty and have trouble falling asleep this evening.
You wake up, lethargic, it takes you four hours before finally getting to work on interest A.
It's excruciatingly boring but you manage to finish it. You begin to be interested in interest C.
You repress it and start working on interest B.
And so on and so on....

It feels like an uphill battle.

Also, it's depressing because you know your current velocity of execution is nowhere near your actual potential...


What does it look like when you play to your strength and mitigate your weaknesses?

You are doing something, let's call it interest A. You begin to be interested in interest B.

You switch your focus on interest B.
Five hours later you know everything you could know about interest B. You are still hungry for more.
You decide to produce something about your discovery.
(for the sake of example and to give you an idea of what it could be, let's say it's an article you will put on medium behind the paywall and you include a bait to your newsletter.)
Three hours later you are done with the building phase, you share it with the world and go to bed.
You feel good and sleep well.
You wake up, early in the morning, your interest for interest A is back and you feel the urge to do something about it.
You jump out of bed and start working asap, forgetting breakfast. By noon you are done with interest A.
You begin to be interested in interest C. You start working immediately on interest C.
And so on and so on.

You are prolific and restless. Your cumulative speed of production is unheard of. You are proud of you.

Could you have been done with interest A sooner if you had double down on it? No. You can't get away with boredom. This is your limit.

This is why you need to be patient. You are like a wind vane, you keep turning. So you will get there. You just won't get there by the shortest path.

This is why you need to be restless. Because you have to take the detour and answer the calling of your curiosity, you have to move as fast as possible, or you will never finish anything.



....


Hope it helps,

Rémi

P.S.: Btw, from my slim understanding of typology, this can maybe apply also to INFP, ENFP, and INTP.
Great advice here. I have a plan to make $10,000 per month in the next 3 months but i am afraid I would get sidetracked.
How do you think i should stay focus on my goal.
 

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Great advice here. I have a plan to make $10,000 per month in the next 3 months but i am afraid I would get sidetracked.
How do you think i should stay focus on my goal.

You will get sidetracked.

STOP aiming to do it WITH HIGH PROBABILITY OF FAILURE in three months.

START aiming to do it WITH 100% PROBABILITY OF SUCCESS in eighteen months.
 

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You will get sidetracked.

STOP aiming to do it WITH HIGH PROBABILITY OF FAILURE in three months.

START aiming to do it WITH 100% PROBABILITY OF SUCCESS in eighteen months.
I don't know about that. I do usually get new ideas to work on but I always put this one first.
Its not that I actually get sidetracked, I just start procrastinating and do nothing.
 

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Its not that I actually get sidetracked, I just start procrastinating and do nothing.
That's the same, you do nothing because the goal is too big to be reached with certainty. So you can't trick yourself into working. Indeed, why work hard and fail anyway.

Thus my answer
You will get sidetracked, or star procrastinating so...

STOP aiming to do it WITH HIGH PROBABILITY OF FAILURE in three months.

START aiming to do it WITH 100% PROBABILITY OF SUCCESS in eighteen months.

It's up to you.

You can decide to disregard my advice and try to do it in three months anyway.

But you will tart procrastinating and do nothing (your prediction)​

Then try again for the next three months...

But start procrastinating and do nothing.​

Then try again for the next three months...

But start procrastinating and do nothing.​

Then try again for the next three months...
Then try again for the next three months...
Then try again for the next three months...


OR.

You can decide you will do in eighteen months WITH 100% SUCCESS RATE, avoid burning yourself with a self imposed bullshit deadline and MAKE PROGRESS EVERYDAY.

I've been there. I tried to succeed in the next three months for three years.

What will you choose?
 

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That's the same, you do nothing because the goal is too big to be reached with certainty. So you can't trick yourself into working. Indeed, why work hard and fail anyway.

Thus my answer


It's up to you.

You can decide to disregard my advice and try to do it in three months anyway.

But you will tart procrastinating and do nothing (your prediction)​

Then try again for the next three months...

But start procrastinating and do nothing.​

Then try again for the next three months...

But start procrastinating and do nothing.​

Then try again for the next three months...
Then try again for the next three months...
Then try again for the next three months...


OR.

You can decide you will do in eighteen months WITH 100% SUCCESS RATE, avoid burning yourself with a self imposed bullshit deadline and MAKE PROGRESS EVERYDAY.

I've been there. I tried to succeed in the next three months for three years.

What will you choose?
I understand what you are saying but I really need to achieve this goal in the next 3 to 9 months because I live in a 3rd world country and I want to further my studies in the US. I am a web designer by the way and I am following @Fox advice on how to scale that high.
So don't you think 18 months is too much
 
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It would be difficult to assess your type from just a few short sentences.
This was the first test I did with John's personality test, I got Entp

This is the 2nd test result -
Screenshot_20210531-054248.png
I tried the idrlabs, Typologycentral and Michael Caloz test an got Intj instead.
 

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