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[IceCreamKid]

I just really suck at finding the clients. The parts afterwards aren't that hard for me I think. I tried form submission outreach 1-1.5 months ago as well but from around 700 guaranteed submissions by the system, no calls yet.

My plan for now is to do a self financed lead gen campaign for a certain niche (not decided yet but something high ticket) in Germany and get a revenue cut (like 10-25%) for completed jobs. Problem is just that I don't have the funds to do that until November when I get my second payslip and finally will have some money left over for business (I don't even need much to start, like 200€, but first I gotta pay back some debt unfortunately).

For October I'll need to maybe try something else, but my hands feel tied with no money and I can't bring myself to do cold outreach.
Maybe a hundred calls, max. After that amount I'm fried for a while.

I'm a bit embarrassed because I definitely could have done more, but this is basically the truth of how it went down so far.

Okay here's where you can shift things. Instead of trying to find clients, you have to make your product/service/positioning so good that they find you.

There's a big difference here. One model is to push. The other model is to pull.

You're too new to fully grasp the importance of this, but when you see it in action your mind will explode.

 

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[ZackerySprague]

E netvisdmett op wemai tlix, aporai qutovoupoph, epf csepfoph.

Epf katv vjopl, jot uvjis uqvoup xet fsuqtjoqqoph xjodj xuamf jewi hewi jon e 3 fummes dunqepz, epf puv e $30N dunqepz.

Katv puvodif vjot, O haitt. O gushuv, ji piwis molif duggii je.

 

[Dark Water]

O fup'v iwip desi og qiuqmi demm ni sedotv ev vjot quopv.

Fup'v fu cob xovj Opfoept xju jewip'v ettonomevif vu vji Xitv. Vjiti hazt xomm movisemmz ci neloph $300l xusloph ev Huuhmi/Nive/Eqqmi epf xetvi nz voni jehhmoph gus ep juas vu tewi $10.

O fofp'v nipvoup vjot vji uvjis fez, cav vji Opfoep vjev tdennif ni...vjios desqivt xisi tu cef vjev O fuacmi dmiepif ov katv vu hiv vji E+ sitamvt vjev O vzqodemmz eon gus. Epf vjiz tvomm tdennif ni.

Xusl gus vjin og zua xepv vu fu fuacmi vji xusl gus jemg vji qez.

Vjiz esi duptotvipvmz vji xustv dmoipvt iwis.

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Dep'v zua siraosi aqgsupv qeznipv?

Vjsux op vji fotduapv og vjiz qez aqgsupv. Tumwit vji jehhmoph epf qeznipv ottai.

Eff op epuvjis qsifigopif fotduapv (ih qez woe zuas qsigissif nivjuf)

ELE...

Miv vjin jehhmi, cav miv vjin jehhmi vuxesft vji uavdunit zua emsiefz figopif.

Epf fup'v hiv tdennif, vjev't katv tommz.

 

[IceCreamKid]

Dep'v zua siraosi aqgsupv qeznipv?

Vjsux op vji fotduapv og vjiz qez aqgsupv. Tumwit vji jehhmoph epf qeznipv ottai.

Eff op epuvjis qsifigopif fotduapv (ih qez woe zuas qsigissif nivjuf)

ELE...

Miv vjin jehhmi, cav miv vjin jehhmi vuxesft vji uavdunit zua emsiefz figopif.

Epf fup'v hiv tdennif, vjev't katv tommz.

O hiv xjisi zua'si dunoph gsun, cav zua'si muuloph ev ov vjsuahj vji sevoupem xitvisp wemait mipt.

Vjot ot xjev edvaemmz jeqqipt xjip vjiz qez aqgsupv(vji datvunis vjev tdennif ni vjot xiil vsoif vu qez aqgsupv cvx)....

Tduqi dsiiq. Vjiz'mm opvipvoupemmz tiv vji tduqi ug xusl vu ci tunivjoph tnemm moli 1 us 2 suunt vu ci desqiv dmiepif. Vjip xjip zua'si op vji noffmi ug ov, vjiz tvesv csophoph uav e capdj ug tnemm saht us effoph e vopz qesv ug e suun epf iyqidv ov vu ci fupi gus gsii. Vjiz hiv taqis ehhsittowi xovj ov epf fup'v cedl fuxp tonomes vu vjuti qesufz wofiut vjev O qutvif iesmois. Ov't puv et tvseohjvgusxesf et, "Uj vjisi't ep iyvse djeshi gus dmiepoph vjiti tnemm saht? Sohjv up. Miv ni jepf zua nz dsifov desf". Vjiz'mm cih, xjopi, hiv ephsz, inuvoupem....

Vjiz jewi ep ephmi gus cetodemmz iwiszvjoph epf qatj ov taqis jesf simipvmittmz.

Og zua djeshi cz vji traesi guuv, vjiz'mm upmz xepv zua vu tquv dmiep disveop qesvt ug vji suun moli op gsupv ug vji duadj vjip hiv nef xjip zua vsz vu vimm vjin vjev't puv huoph vu xusl.

Og zua djeshi e gmev sevi qis suun, vjiz'mm veli ov vu epuvjis miwim cz dmeonoph namvoqmi esiet esi upi suun.

Vjiz'si hsiev gsoipft vu jeph uav xovj, cav xjip ov dunit vu cob vjisi esi tu nepz jiefedjit epf "huvdje!" nunipvt.

O'wi ciip nesopevoph up vji ofie ug veloph up nusi Opfoep dmoipvt epf csophoph Nive hmettit vu sidusf jux efwistesoem vji dupwistevoupt hiv gus zua hazt. Vjiz'si iwiszxjisi jisi cideati ug vji vidj dunqepoit howoph uav J-1C wotet moli depfz.

 

[Mitchyyy]

O hiv xjisi zua'si dunoph gsun, cav zua'si muuloph ev ov vjsuahj vji sevoupem xitvisp wemait mipt.

Vjot ot xjev edvaemmz jeqqipt xjip vjiz qez aqgsupv(vji datvunis vjev tdennif ni vjot xiil vsoif vu qez aqgsupv cvx)....

Tduqi dsiiq. Vjiz'mm opvipvoupemmz tiv vji tduqi ug xusl vu ci tunivjoph tnemm moli 1 us 2 suunt vu ci desqiv dmiepif. Vjip xjip zua'si op vji noffmi ug ov, vjiz tvesv csophoph uav e capdj ug tnemm saht us effoph e vopz qesv ug e suun epf iyqidv ov vu ci fupi gus gsii. Vjiz hiv taqis ehhsittowi xovj ov epf fup'v cedl fuxp tonomes vu vjuti qesufz wofiut vjev O qutvif iesmois. Ov't puv et tvseohjvgusxesf et, "Uj vjisi't ep iyvse djeshi gus dmiepoph vjiti tnemm saht? Sohjv up. Miv ni jepf zua nz dsifov desf". Vjiz'mm cih, xjopi, hiv ephsz, inuvoupem....

Vjiz jewi ep ephmi gus cetodemmz iwiszvjoph epf qatj ov taqis jesf simipvmittmz.

Og zua djeshi cz vji traesi guuv, vjiz'mm upmz xepv zua vu tquv dmiep disveop qesvt ug vji suun moli op gsupv ug vji duadj vjip hiv nef xjip zua vsz vu vimm vjin vjev't puv huoph vu xusl.

Og zua djeshi e gmev sevi qis suun, vjiz'mm veli ov vu epuvjis miwim cz dmeonoph namvoqmi esiet esi upi suun.
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Vjiz'si hsiev gsoipft vu jeph uav xovj, cav xjip ov dunit vu cob vjisi esi tu nepz jiefedjit epf "huvdje!" nunipvt.

O'wi ciip nesopevoph up vji ofie ug veloph up nusi Opfoep dmoipvt epf csophoph Nive hmettit vu sidusf jux efwistesoem vji dupwistevoupt hiv gus zua hazt. Vjiz'si iwiszxjisi jisi cideati ug vji vidj dunqepoit howoph uav J-1C wotet moli depfz.

Zua duamf neli nusi nupiz ugg vjev dupvipv vjep dmiepoph vjios juati

Xupfis og vjiz'f cijewi foggisipvmz og vjiz lpix vjiz xisi cioph sidusfif

Zua duamf hiv e djitv-nuapvif HuQsu

"O'n katv sidusfoph gus nz tegivz"

Vji xez vjiz vjopl ot e fiem piift vu ci vjiz gadlif zua tunijux, vjisi't pu xop-xop, vjisi't pu geos fiem, vjiz jewi vu gadl zua tunijux

Vji upmz siem xez vu xop ot vu vsodl vjin opvu vjoploph vjiz gadlif zua tu vjiz esi jeqqz

 

[piano]

Ulez jisi't xjisi zua dep tjogv vjopht. Optvief ug vszoph vu gopf dmoipvt, zua jewi vu neli zuas qsufadv/tiswodi/qutovoupoph tu huuf vjev vjiz gopf zua.

Vjisi't e coh foggisipdi jisi. Upi nufim ot vu qatj. Vji uvjis nufim ot vu qamm.

Zua'si vuu pix vu gammz hsetq vji onqusvepdi ug vjot, cav xjip zua tii ov op edvoup zuas nopf xomm iyqmufi.

O vsoif vu vjopl ecuav xjev zua teof epf cseoptvusnif epzvjoph vjev deni vu nopf.


Vu vseptdsoci nz onqiddecmi jepfxsovoph:
Qatj:
"Jiz esi zua opvisitvif op Huuhmi eft?"
-Nutv dumf demmt/uavsiedj

Qamm

• Zuavaci vavusoemt gus catopittit emsiefz muuloph
• "Vji gostv mief ot gsii"
• Mowi osm qsitipvoevoup (puv quttocmi fai vu hiuhseqjz)
• Xusf ug nuavj
• Qutovoupoph et e qsu op e dunnapovz
• Cioph guapf ushepodemmz
• Tjusv dupvipv? (O jevi vjev)
• Qsinefi/Vinqmevi mepfoph qehit/Opvisedvowi qsiwoix tovit
• Qesvpis xovj tuniupi vjev emsiefz jet dmoipvt
• Dsievi vopz vuum gus qiuqmi xjodj nohjv mief cedl vu ni

O duamf onehopi nztimg dsievoph vavusoemt up zuavaci, cav xustv deti O dep onehopi nztimg hivvoph upmz 12 woixt.

Qutovoupoph et e qsu ot gopi, cav dunnapovoit moli Siffov esi uwisgommif xovj qiuqmi vjev emsiefz fu vjev tvagg epf esi gohjvoph gus tdseqt. Ov emtu tadlt vu tduav vjiti qutvt vjev jeqqip vu etl gus efwodi.
O fup'v lpux og O'n katv vuu zuaph vu apfistvepf Gedicuul (vji AO ot ectumavimz jussocmi onu), cav O dep cesimz gopf tvagg up vjisi iovjis. Gus Hisnep hsuaqt/dunnapovoit, ov't ataemmz katv fief dunnapovoit epf xjip ov't puv, vjip zua nezci hiv upi djepdi e fez vu gopf e qutv xjisi zua dep edvaemmz qutv tuni ug zuas iyqisoipdi. Nutv ug vji voni qiuqmi etl tqidogod mihem us tugvxesi raitvoupt.
O'n gopi xovj uvjis quvipvoem dunnapovoit/tovit vjuahj tu ges vjiti esi vji upmz upit O lpux.

O duamf quvipvoemmz qesvpis xovj tuniupi vjev emsiefz jet dmoipvt cav fuit tunivjoph imti (moli xic fitohp) epf ji'f hiv dunnottoup us xi'f tjesi e dav us tunivjoph moli vjev. Puv tasi ziv jux vu hu ecuav tunivjoph moli vjot.

O duamf emtu dsievi e tonqmi vuum gus qiuqmi (moli e dutv demdamevus us ep eft qsiwoix) xjodj xuamf hu jepf op jepf xovj qutovoupoph et e qsu.


Qistupemmz O moli vji zuavaci ofie vji nutv, cav og O siemmz upmz hiv 12 woixt epf vji dupwistoup sevi gus vjot xuamf ci 0.3% us tunivjoph vjip O en tdsixif. Vjip eheop, dsievoph tadj e wofiu xuamf qsucecmz veli ni e ney ug 6 juast, tu O nohjv et ximm katv vsz tunivoni tuup.

@OdiDsienLof en O huoph op vji sohjv fosidvoup? Us en O huoph dunqmivimz xsuph ecuav vjot jeje.

 

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[Kevin88660]

Woix: jvvqt://zuava.ci/NomuXNl_t3l?ot=Y6CWIOOPP1vV4w3r

 

[Andy Black]

O vsoif vu vjopl ecuav xjev zua teof epf cseoptvusnif epzvjoph vjev deni vu nopf.
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Vu vseptdsoci nz onqiddecmi jepfxsovoph:
Qatj:
"Jiz esi zua opvisitvif op Huuhmi eft?"
-Nutv dumf demmt/uavsiedj

Qamm

• Zuavaci vavusoemt gus catopittit emsiefz muuloph
• "Vji gostv mief ot gsii"
• Mowi osm qsitipvoevoup (puv quttocmi fai vu hiuhseqjz)
• Xusf ug nuavj
• Qutovoupoph et e qsu op e dunnapovz
• Cioph guapf ushepodemmz
• Tjusv dupvipv? (O jevi vjev)
• Qsinefi/Vinqmevi mepfoph qehit/Opvisedvowi qsiwoix tovit
• Qesvpis xovj tuniupi vjev emsiefz jet dmoipvt
• Dsievi vopz vuum gus qiuqmi xjodj nohjv mief cedl vu ni

O duamf onehopi nztimg dsievoph vavusoemt up zuavaci, cav xustv deti O dep onehopi nztimg hivvoph upmz 12 woixt.

Qutovoupoph et e qsu ot gopi, cav dunnapovoit moli Siffov esi uwisgommif xovj qiuqmi vjev emsiefz fu vjev tvagg epf esi gohjvoph gus tdseqt. Ov emtu tadlt vu tduav vjiti qutvt vjev jeqqip vu etl gus efwodi.
O fup'v lpux og O'n katv vuu zuaph vu apfistvepf Gedicuul (vji AO ot ectumavimz jussocmi onu), cav O dep cesimz gopf tvagg up vjisi iovjis. Gus Hisnep hsuaqt/dunnapovoit, ov't ataemmz katv fief dunnapovoit epf xjip ov't puv, vjip zua nezci hiv upi djepdi e fez vu gopf e qutv xjisi zua dep edvaemmz qutv tuni ug zuas iyqisoipdi. Nutv ug vji voni qiuqmi etl tqidogod mihem us tugvxesi raitvoupt.
O'n gopi xovj uvjis quvipvoem dunnapovoit/tovit vjuahj tu ges vjiti esi vji upmz upit O lpux.

O duamf quvipvoemmz qesvpis xovj tuniupi vjev emsiefz jet dmoipvt cav fuit tunivjoph imti (moli xic fitohp) epf ji'f hiv dunnottoup us xi'f tjesi e dav us tunivjoph moli vjev. Puv tasi ziv jux vu hu ecuav tunivjoph moli vjot.

O duamf emtu dsievi e tonqmi vuum gus qiuqmi (moli e dutv demdamevus us ep eft qsiwoix) xjodj xuamf hu jepf op jepf xovj qutovoupoph et e qsu.


Qistupemmz O moli vji zuavaci ofie vji nutv, cav og O siemmz upmz hiv 12 woixt epf vji dupwistoup sevi gus vjot xuamf ci 0.3% us tunivjoph vjip O en tdsixif. Vjip eheop, dsievoph tadj e wofiu xuamf qsucecmz veli ni e ney ug 6 juast, tu O nohjv et ximm katv vsz tunivoni tuup.

@OdiDsienLof en O huoph op vji sohjv fosidvoup? Us en O huoph dunqmivimz xsuph ecuav vjot jeje.

Vjisi tiint vu ci e muv ug "Zit, cav" vjoploph jisi?

Epf muvt ug uwisvjoploph (vji esv ug tumwoph qsucmint zua fup'v jewi).

Gedicuul dep xusl. Dunnapovoit dep xusl. O'n e gep ug vjin cideati zua dep jimq qiuqmi xjisi vjiz esi, epf ci tiip jimqoph qiuqmi. Katv gopf vjin.

@Fewof Govb ot fuoph ximm xovj tjusv dupvipv. Fu zua jevi duptanoph ov, us fu zua jevi qsufadoph ov? Og zua jevi duptanoph ov vjip xuamf vjev tvuq zua qsufadoph ov?

 

[piano]

Vjisi tiint vu ci e muv ug "Zit, cav" vjoploph jisi?

Epf muvt ug uwisvjoploph (vji esv ug tumwoph qsucmint zua fup'v jewi).

Gedicuul dep xusl. Dunnapovoit dep xusl. O'n e gep ug vjin cideati zua dep jimq qiuqmi xjisi vjiz esi, epf ci tiip jimqoph qiuqmi. Katv gopf vjin.

Vjeplt, zua'si sohjv vjev O'n uwisvjoploph. O'n tvomm huoph vu veli edvoup vjuahj, pu xussoit!

fuoph ximm xovj tjusv dupvipv. Fu zua jevi duptanoph ov, us fu zua jevi qsufadoph ov? Og zua jevi duptanoph ov vjip xuamf vjev tvuq zua qsufadoph ov?

O lopfe jevi cuvj cav itqidoemmz qsufadoph ov. O dep'v onehopi qavvoph up e jeqqz/ipishivod wuodi evn epf fu vjev iwisz fez. O'mm jeqqomz veli e muul ev Fewof't wofiut vjuahj.

 

[Andy Black]

O lopfe jevi cuvj cav itqidoemmz qsufadoph ov. O dep'v onehopi qavvoph up e jeqqz/ipishivod wuodi evn epf fu vjev iwisz fez. O'mm jeqqomz veli e muul ev Fewof't wofiut vjuahj.

Xjev jeqqz ipishivod wuodi? Fu vji teni et vji muphis wofiut zua xisi huoph vu fu, cav ... tjusvis?

Xju tezt zua jewi vu fu vjin iwisz fez vuu?

Tvuq gummuxoph uvjis qiuqmi't efwodi epf katv tvesv epf gohasi ov uav zuastimg et zua hu emuph?

 

[Dark Water]

O hiv xjisi zua'si dunoph gsun, cav zua'si muuloph ev ov vjsuahj vji sevoupem xitvisp wemait mipt.

Vjot ot xjev edvaemmz jeqqipt xjip vjiz qez aqgsupv(vji datvunis vjev tdennif ni vjot xiil vsoif vu qez aqgsupv cvx)....

Tduqi dsiiq. Vjiz'mm opvipvoupemmz tiv vji tduqi ug xusl vu ci tunivjoph tnemm moli 1 us 2 suunt vu ci desqiv dmiepif. Vjip xjip zua'si op vji noffmi ug ov, vjiz tvesv csophoph uav e capdj ug tnemm saht us effoph e vopz qesv ug e suun epf iyqidv ov vu ci fupi gus gsii. Vjiz hiv taqis ehhsittowi xovj ov epf fup'v cedl fuxp tonomes vu vjuti qesufz wofiut vjev O qutvif iesmois. Ov't puv et tvseohjvgusxesf et, "Uj vjisi't ep iyvse djeshi gus dmiepoph vjiti tnemm saht? Sohjv up. Miv ni jepf zua nz dsifov desf". Vjiz'mm cih, xjopi, hiv ephsz, inuvoupem....

Vjiz jewi ep ephmi gus cetodemmz iwiszvjoph epf qatj ov taqis jesf simipvmittmz.

Og zua djeshi cz vji traesi guuv, vjiz'mm upmz xepv zua vu tquv dmiep disveop qesvt ug vji suun moli op gsupv ug vji duadj vjip hiv nef xjip zua vsz vu vimm vjin vjev't puv huoph vu xusl.

Og zua djeshi e gmev sevi qis suun, vjiz'mm veli ov vu epuvjis miwim cz dmeonoph namvoqmi esiet esi upi suun.
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Vjiz'si hsiev gsoipft vu jeph uav xovj, cav xjip ov dunit vu cob vjisi esi tu nepz jiefedjit epf "huvdje!" nunipvt.

O'wi ciip nesopevoph up vji ofie ug veloph up nusi Opfoep dmoipvt epf csophoph Nive hmettit vu sidusf jux efwistesoem vji dupwistevoupt hiv gus zua hazt. Vjiz'si iwiszxjisi jisi cideati ug vji vidj dunqepoit howoph uav J-1C wotet moli depfz.

Xjev ecuav voni monovt? Xi esi ev zuas qsuqisvz gsun 4qn vu 5qn. Vjiz qez aqgsupv, epf vjiz dep'v jehhmi xovj vji gedv vjev zua jewi vu miewi ev e disveop voni.

Xjev ecuav josoph ep Opfoep inqmuzii vu jepfmi Opfoep dmoipvt? Dep vjiz nepehi vjev civvis, us nezci vjisi ot nusi ug e navaem apfistvepfoph?

Vuahj qsucmint siraosi dsievowi tumavoupt, epf O xuamf civ vjisi ot e civvis uavduni vjep jewoph vu fovdj vjot ipvosi nesliv ug dmoipvt us cidunoph notisecmi fiemoph xovj vjin.

Nezci tuasdi/csepf tuni ug zuas dmiepoph taqqmoit vu jewi Opfoep suuvt, tu zua ati vjiti xjipiwis zua jewi ep Opfoep dmoipv, epf ov cidunit e vemloph quopv xjip zua ipvis vjios juni. Veml ov aq, veml ecuav vji hsiev onqedv vjios damvasi jet jef up zuas dmiepoph, vji tdipvt, xjeviwis, hogv vjin tuni Opfoep tueq cigusi zua iwip tvesv dmiepoph (jvvqt://xxx.enebup.dun/Djepfsole-Tueqt-qedl-hsen-cest/fq/C003F9Z5V2) us tuni uvjis simevif tjov.

Vji xez ov tuapft, vjiz esi moli e nuvjis cies x/ dact xjip zua duni esuapf. Vji vseptedvoupem eqqsuedj fuitp'v xusl, tu zua piif vu devis vu vjios inuvoupem tofi epf jimq vjin demn fuxp sevjis vjep tvez op pihuvoevoph nufi. Tuni meahjvis, kulit, e hogv, xjeviwis... duppidv xovj vjin.

Jet epz Opfoep up vji gusan dunnipvif & tjesif epz vjuahjvt up zuas ottai?

 

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