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<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 73436" data-quote="Lyinx" data-source="post: 953332" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/community/goto/post?id=953332" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-953332">Lyinx said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> not exactly the same... you might find it interesting </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>Know about this video for a long time.</div>
 
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<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 73436" data-quote="Lyinx" data-source="post: 953332" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/community/goto/post?id=953332" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-953332">Lyinx said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> <div class="bbMediaWrapper" data-media-site-id="youtube" data-media-key="jyQwgBAaBag"> <div class="bbMediaWrapper-inner"> <iframe src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/jyQwgBAaBag?wmode=opaque&start=1070" loading="lazy" width="560" height="315" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen="true"></iframe> </div> </div><i><span style="font-size: 10px"><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jyQwgBAaBag&amp;t=1070s" target="_blank" class="link link--external" rel="nofollow ugc noopener">View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jyQwgBAaBag&amp;t=1070s</a></span></i><br /> <br /> not exactly the same... you might find it interesting </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> This reminds me of windsurfing/hydrofoiling. There&#039;s the wind you feel standing still and there&#039;s wind that you feel that is a combination of the wind and your own motion, the &quot;apparent wind&quot;. <br /> <br /> I regularly go ~2x faster than the absolute wind, but not dead downwind like this car. It&#039;s fastest going perpendicular to the wind, or maybe a little bit away from the wind. The other day it was 8-14mph or so and I hit 24mph at peak speed. I feel the 20+mph wind at that speed and can hang off the sail. Standing still, with the board not moving, I can&#039;t hang off the sail, I would just fall in the water.<br /> <br /> There&#039;s a lot more going on with this car and the apparent wind as well as the connection of the fan to the wheels.</div>
 
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<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 85205" data-quote="thechosen1" data-source="post: 953328" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/community/goto/post?id=953328" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-953328">thechosen1 said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> If you put a turbine on top of a car, you might get a little bit of energy back, but every power generation method operates at less than 100% efficiency.<br /> <br /> So no, it wouldn’t provide unlimited energy.<br /> <br /> Like <a href="https://www.thefastlaneforum.com/community/members/34879/" class="username" data-xf-init="member-tooltip" data-user-id="34879" data-username="@lowtek">@lowtek</a> said, unless you just made the greatest discovery in human history, this is physically impossible.<br /> <br /> Perpetual motion machines do not exist. (Unless you just discovered the greatest thing in human history, rewriting all of science forever, which I doubt)<br /> <br /> Every method possible for generating energy loses some of that energy in the process. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>This. Add it to the list of perpetual motion scams</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 69339" data-quote="AmazingLarry" data-source="post: 953367" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/community/goto/post?id=953367" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-953367">AmazingLarry said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> This. Add it to the list of perpetual motion scams </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>Here come Mr. Scambuster for howling &quot;SCAM! SCAM!&quot; without knowing anything.</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 95917" data-quote="RevI" data-source="post: 953371" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/community/goto/post?id=953371" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-953371">RevI said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> Here come Mr. Scambuster for howling &quot;SCAM! SCAM!&quot; without knowing anything. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote> <div class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--unfurl is-pending is-recrawl js-unfurl fauxBlockLink" data-unfurl="true" data-result-id="213270" data-url="https://socratic.org/questions/why-can-no-machine-be-100-efficient" data-host="socratic.org" data-pending="true"> <div class="contentRow"> <div class="contentRow-figure contentRow-figure--fixedSmall js-unfurl-figure"> <span class="fa-2x u-muted"> <i class="fa--xf far fa-spinner fa-pulse "><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" role="img" aria-hidden="true" ><use href="/community/data/local/icons/regular.svg?v=1749395433#spinner"></use></svg></i> </span> </div> <div class="contentRow-main"> <h3 class="contentRow-header js-unfurl-title"> <a href="https://socratic.org/questions/why-can-no-machine-be-100-efficient" class="link link--external fauxBlockLink-blockLink" target="_blank" rel="nofollow ugc noopener" data-proxy-href=""> Why can no machine be 100% efficient? + Example </a> </h3> <div class="contentRow-snippet js-unfurl-desc">Because of gravity and friction No machine is free from the effects of gravity, and even with wonderful lubrication, friction always exists. The energy a machine produces is always less than the energy put into it (energy input). Most machines transfer energy from one place or another, or...</div> <div class="contentRow-minor contentRow-minor--hideLinks"> <span class="js-unfurl-favicon"> <img src="/community/proxy.php?image=https%3A%2F%2Fsocratic.org%2Fquestions%2Fwhy-can-no-machine-be-100-efficient%2F&amp;hash=77a9ed46e5da25c5a08fe4704b217720&amp;return_error=1" loading="lazy" alt="socratic.org" class="bbCodeBlockUnfurl-icon" data-onerror="hide-parent"/> </span> socratic.org </div> </div> </div> </div> <br /> <div class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--unfurl is-pending is-recrawl js-unfurl fauxBlockLink" data-unfurl="true" data-result-id="213271" data-url="https://www.livescience.com/55944-perpetual-motion-machines.html#:~:text=Simply%20put%2C%20the%20First%20Law,toward%20a%20state%20of%20disorder." data-host="www.livescience.com" data-pending="true"> <div class="contentRow"> <div class="contentRow-figure contentRow-figure--fixedSmall js-unfurl-figure"> <img src="/community/proxy.php?image=https%3A%2F%2Fcdn.mos.cms.futurecdn.net%2FzUpyP5yXPy3RwE93GRFgeR-1200-80.jpg&amp;hash=574ffd7006721cc3a03378f6a33359e0&amp;return_error=1" loading="lazy" alt="www.livescience.com" class="bbCodeBlockUnfurl-image" data-onerror="hide-parent"/> </div> <div class="contentRow-main"> <h3 class="contentRow-header js-unfurl-title"> <a href="https://www.livescience.com/55944-perpetual-motion-machines.html#:~:text=Simply%20put%2C%20the%20First%20Law,toward%20a%20state%20of%20disorder." class="link link--external fauxBlockLink-blockLink" target="_blank" rel="nofollow ugc noopener" data-proxy-href=""> Perpetual Motion Machines: Working Against Physical Laws </a> </h3> <div class="contentRow-snippet js-unfurl-desc">For centuries, people have been trying to invent perpetual motion machines. The laws of physics, though, are working against them.</div> <div class="contentRow-minor contentRow-minor--hideLinks"> <span class="js-unfurl-favicon"> <img src="/community/proxy.php?image=https%3A%2F%2Fvanilla.futurecdn.net%2Flivescience%2F942467%2Ffavicon.ico&amp;hash=cc92cc191369869d9c355edf4134a05f&amp;return_error=1" loading="lazy" alt="www.livescience.com" class="bbCodeBlockUnfurl-icon" data-onerror="hide-parent"/> </span> www.livescience.com </div> </div> </div> </div> <br /> <a href="https://www.thefastlaneforum.com/community/attachments/1626708771457-webp.38997/" target="_blank"><img src="https://www.thefastlaneforum.com/community/data/attachments/35/35627-13a6b2ccc51f822ca6c3434c49963f99.jpg?hash=wcgSH6sSMw" class="bbImage " style="" alt="1626708771457.webp" title="1626708771457.webp" width="244" height="200" loading="lazy" /></a><br /> <br /> <b>Maybe you just defeated Edison, Newton, Einstein, and Tesla to become the greatest scientist of all time!<br /> <br /> If so, you should be talking to the news media, MIT, going for your Nobel Prize, not posting here <img src="/community/imgs/emoticons/em-smile2.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-shortname=":)" /> </b></div>
 
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<div class="bbWrapper"><div class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--unfurl is-pending is-recrawl js-unfurl fauxBlockLink" data-unfurl="true" data-result-id="213294" data-url="https://patentscope.wipo.int/search/en/detail.jsf?docId=WO2009117620" data-host="patentscope.wipo.int" data-pending="true"> <div class="contentRow"> <div class="contentRow-figure contentRow-figure--fixedSmall js-unfurl-figure"> <span class="fa-2x u-muted"> <i class="fa--xf far fa-spinner fa-pulse "><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" role="img" aria-hidden="true" ><use href="/community/data/local/icons/regular.svg?v=1749395433#spinner"></use></svg></i> </span> </div> <div class="contentRow-main"> <h3 class="contentRow-header js-unfurl-title"> <a href="https://patentscope.wipo.int/search/en/detail.jsf?docId=WO2009117620" class="link link--external fauxBlockLink-blockLink" target="_blank" rel="noopener" data-proxy-href=""> WIPO - Search International and National Patent Collections </a> </h3> <div class="contentRow-snippet js-unfurl-desc"></div> <div class="contentRow-minor contentRow-minor--hideLinks"> <span class="js-unfurl-favicon"> </span> patentscope.wipo.int </div> </div> </div> </div> This is an approved patent.</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 95917" data-quote="RevI" data-source="post: 953381" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/community/goto/post?id=953381" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-953381">RevI said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> <div class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--unfurl is-pending is-recrawl js-unfurl fauxBlockLink" data-unfurl="true" data-result-id="213294" data-url="https://patentscope.wipo.int/search/en/detail.jsf?docId=WO2009117620" data-host="patentscope.wipo.int" data-pending="true"> <div class="contentRow"> <div class="contentRow-figure contentRow-figure--fixedSmall js-unfurl-figure"> <span class="fa-2x u-muted"> <i class="fa--xf far fa-spinner fa-pulse "><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" role="img" aria-hidden="true" ><use href="/community/data/local/icons/regular.svg?v=1749395433#spinner"></use></svg></i> </span> </div> <div class="contentRow-main"> <h3 class="contentRow-header js-unfurl-title"> <a href="https://patentscope.wipo.int/search/en/detail.jsf?docId=WO2009117620" class="link link--external fauxBlockLink-blockLink" target="_blank" rel="nofollow ugc noopener" data-proxy-href=""> WIPO - Search International and National Patent Collections </a> </h3> <div class="contentRow-snippet js-unfurl-desc"></div> <div class="contentRow-minor contentRow-minor--hideLinks"> <span class="js-unfurl-favicon"> </span> patentscope.wipo.int </div> </div> </div> </div> This is an approved patent. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>Then why hasn&#039;t it been made already?<br /> <br /> My name is on several approved patents, most of which are for devices that will never see the light of day. This is because we come up with ideas and the company patents them before we even try to develop it into a real device. That doesn&#039;t mean that it is actually feasible/worthwhile to do.<br /> <br /> I don&#039;t see how this device stays running. You&#039;d need to input power to get it going, and then ??? Granted I haven&#039;t done the math, but it seems like perpetual motion.</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 53197" data-quote="OMDA" data-source="post: 953385" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/community/goto/post?id=953385" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-953385">OMDA said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> I don&#039;t see how this device stays running. You&#039;d need to input power to get it going, and then ??? Granted I haven&#039;t done the math, but it seems like perpetual motion. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>Perpetual motion machines create energy out of nothing. But that machine doesn&#039;t claim so. All details are given in the description, kindly read and decide. There are some maths there in the application.</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 95917" data-quote="RevI" data-source="post: 953388" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/community/goto/post?id=953388" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-953388">RevI said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> Perpetual motion machines create energy out of nothing. But that machine doesn&#039;t claim so. All details are given in the description, kindly read and decide. There are some maths there in the application. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>basically (and feel free to correct me if I&#039;m wrong), 3 parts<br /> <br /> 3. a blower (which is pulling air through the wind tunnel at a small speed, which is increased by the tunnel becoming larger at the other end)<br /> 2. a turbine (to make electric from the narrow stream of air)<br /> 1. a reverse wind tunnel (where air is being drawn into)<br /> <br /> <br /> in layman&#039;s terms, we could get the same effect, if we:<br /> 10 foot wide tunnel<br /> reduced to 1&quot; at the far end<br /> attach shop vac to 1&quot; opening of the tunnel<br /> put a turbine in the middle of the 10-foot wide tunnel<br /> <br /> the turbine would spin at a high rate of speed because the shop vac is sucking that much air through it that it makes the turbine spin at a mad speed. <br /> <br /> Better yet, increase the size of the tunnel to 20 feet and the small size to 1/2&quot;, or even better, down to 1/4&quot; and you would get an even bigger suction effect.... <br /> <br /> Does that sound like it Revl?</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 95917" data-quote="RevI" data-source="post: 953381" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/community/goto/post?id=953381" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-953381">RevI said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> <div class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--unfurl is-pending is-recrawl js-unfurl fauxBlockLink" data-unfurl="true" data-result-id="213294" data-url="https://patentscope.wipo.int/search/en/detail.jsf?docId=WO2009117620" data-host="patentscope.wipo.int" data-pending="true"> <div class="contentRow"> <div class="contentRow-figure contentRow-figure--fixedSmall js-unfurl-figure"> <span class="fa-2x u-muted"> <i class="fa--xf far fa-spinner fa-pulse "><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" role="img" aria-hidden="true" ><use href="/community/data/local/icons/regular.svg?v=1749395433#spinner"></use></svg></i> </span> </div> <div class="contentRow-main"> <h3 class="contentRow-header js-unfurl-title"> <a href="https://patentscope.wipo.int/search/en/detail.jsf?docId=WO2009117620" class="link link--external fauxBlockLink-blockLink" target="_blank" rel="nofollow ugc noopener" data-proxy-href=""> WIPO - Search International and National Patent Collections </a> </h3> <div class="contentRow-snippet js-unfurl-desc"></div> <div class="contentRow-minor contentRow-minor--hideLinks"> <span class="js-unfurl-favicon"> </span> patentscope.wipo.int </div> </div> </div> </div> This is an approved patent. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>There are lots of patents that never get built in real life because they can&#039;t be built in real life.<br /> <br /> I&#039;m all for innovation and breaking the mold - I&#039;m just pointing out something you learn very early on when you start reading about inventions and patents.<br /> <br /> You can, in fact, get a patent for something that has never been proven to work.</div>
 
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<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 73436" data-quote="Lyinx" data-source="post: 953406" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/community/goto/post?id=953406" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-953406">Lyinx said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> Does that sound like it Revl? </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>It&#039;s called Venturi Effect.</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 95917" data-quote="RevI" data-source="post: 953408" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/community/goto/post?id=953408" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-953408">RevI said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> It&#039;s called Venturi Effect. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>I don&#039;t think that was the question - does <a href="https://www.thefastlaneforum.com/community/members/73436/" class="username" data-xf-init="member-tooltip" data-user-id="73436" data-username="@Lyinx">@Lyinx</a> &#039;s description match your general premise?</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 89301" data-quote="mdot" data-source="post: 953439" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/community/goto/post?id=953439" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-953439">mdot said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> I don&#039;t think that was the question - does @Lyinx &#039;s description match your general premise? </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>I have already told that the basic principle behind the invention is Venturi Effect.</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 95917" data-quote="RevI" data-source="post: 953498" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/community/goto/post?id=953498" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-953498">RevI said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> I have already told that the basic principle behind the invention is Venturi Effect. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>so, the venturi effect would be even greater if you had a 200 foot wide tunnel, and then narrowed it down to a 1&quot; pipe and attach a dewalt shop vac on the other end.... hmmm....<br /> <br /> you could put a 200 foot wide turbine on there, and power an entire city.... or not...</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 73436" data-quote="Lyinx" data-source="post: 953841" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/community/goto/post?id=953841" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-953841">Lyinx said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> so, the venturi effect would be even greater if you had a 200 foot wide tunnel, and then narrowed it down to a 1&quot; pipe and attach a dewalt shop vac on the other end.... hmmm.... </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>Not possible! There are limitations. But, I don&#039;t want to discuss that here.</div>
 
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<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 95917" data-quote="RevI" data-source="post: 953842" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/community/goto/post?id=953842" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-953842">RevI said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> Not possible! There are limitations. But, I don&#039;t want to discuss that here. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>Ventur effect should increase with size, not diminish... unless there is a problem with your math?</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 73436" data-quote="Lyinx" data-source="post: 953843" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/community/goto/post?id=953843" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-953843">Lyinx said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> Ventur effect should increase with size, not diminish... unless there is a problem with your math? </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>There is a final frontier to the increase. You need to know about Venturi Effect a little more.</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 34879" data-quote="lowtek" data-source="post: 952938" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/community/goto/post?id=952938" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-952938">lowtek said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> so... then why are you here? Wouldn&#039;t those people have contacts you could leverage?<br /> <br /> None of this makes any sense. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> I&#039;ve fallen for a trap like this before so I feel adequately prepared to answer this.<br /> <br /> Let&#039;s call it,<b> The &quot;Brilliant&quot; Engineer That Needs Your Funds Trap</b>.<br /> <br /> There are two possibilities... and the shitty part is that if the engineer is smart enough, you&#039;ll never get any sort of conclusion. You&#039;ll never really know which possibility is the real one.. You&#039;ll always be in a state of wonder.<br /> <br /> Possibility #1) They are genuinely smart and came up with a solution that seems correct on paper. They might have made an error somewhere, but they&#039;re too caught up in their visions of grandeur that they <i>never</i> double-check their work. They&#039;ll also never give you enough information to check their work because their ego won&#039;t allow them to be proven wrong. They&#039;ll always give you an excuse for why they can&#039;t provide more info.<br /> <br /> Possibility #2) They are a genuinely smart but evil person that wants <b>you</b> to pay their bills. They will promise you the world... but it&#039;s always <i>just</i> out of reach. They need more funding. They need to land a contract with an impossible company to work with. They need six more months. They need... [<i>fill in the blank</i>]<br /> <br /> What should you do?<br /> <br /> <b>Walk away and don&#039;t look back. Ever.</b><br /> <br /> They are energy and money vampires.<br /> <br /> If they were legitimate, they wouldn&#039;t be talking to you in a place like this. Instead, they&#039;d be like <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lonnie_Johnson_(inventor)" target="_blank" class="link link--external" rel="noopener">Lonnie Johnson</a> who patented his invention and then <i>went straight to the people who needed it</i>.<br /> <br /> You&#039;ve been warned!</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 75495" data-quote="peterb0yd" data-source="post: 953856" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/community/goto/post?id=953856" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-953856">peterb0yd said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> Possibility #1) They are genuinely smart and came up with a solution that seems correct on paper. They might have made an error somewhere, but they&#039;re too caught up in their visions of grandeur that they <i>never</i> double-check their work. They&#039;ll also never give you enough information to check their work because their ego won&#039;t allow them to be proven wrong. They&#039;ll always give you an excuse for why they can&#039;t provide more info. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>You can have sufficient information if you are ready to sign an NDA. So, no question of &quot;they can&#039;t provide more info&quot; type blockhead talks.<br /> <blockquote data-attributes="member: 75495" data-quote="peterb0yd" data-source="post: 953856" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/community/goto/post?id=953856" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-953856">peterb0yd said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> Possibility #2) They are a genuinely smart but evil person that wants <b>you</b> to pay their bills. They will promise you the world... but it&#039;s always <i>just</i> out of reach. They need more funding. They need to land a contract with an impossible company to work with. They need six more months. They need... [<i>fill in the blank</i>] </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>So far, not a single cent has been demanded yet. Just show me an example and I will stop.<br /> NDA&#039;s are very common and those who are acquainted with the inventing and innovating, know well how much necessary it is for an inventor/innovator.</div>
 
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<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 95917" data-quote="RevI" data-source="post: 953862" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/community/goto/post?id=953862" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-953862">RevI said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> So far, not a single cent has been demanded yet. Just show me an example and I will stop. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>See below: <br /> <blockquote data-attributes="member: 95917" data-quote="RevI" data-source="post: 952875" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/community/goto/post?id=952875" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-952875">RevI said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> This. I need the finance for prototyping and testing. After prototyping and patent application filed, there wouldn&#039;t be big problem to market it. I know necessary resources. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>done.</div>
 
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<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 75495" data-quote="peterb0yd" data-source="post: 953856" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/community/goto/post?id=953856" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-953856">peterb0yd said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> I&#039;ve fallen for a trap like this before so I feel adequately prepared to answer this.<br /> <br /> Let&#039;s call it,<b> The &quot;Brilliant&quot; Engineer That Needs Your Funds Trap</b>.<br /> <br /> There are two possibilities... and the shitty part is that if the engineer is smart enough, you&#039;ll never get any sort of conclusion. You&#039;ll never really know which possibility is the real one.. You&#039;ll always be in a state of wonder.<br /> <br /> Possibility #1) They are genuinely smart and came up with a solution that seems correct on paper. They might have made an error somewhere, but they&#039;re too caught up in their visions of grandeur that they <i>never</i> double-check their work. They&#039;ll also never give you enough information to check their work because their ego won&#039;t allow them to be proven wrong. They&#039;ll always give you an excuse for why they can&#039;t provide more info.<br /> <br /> Possibility #2) They are a genuinely smart but evil person that wants <b>you</b> to pay their bills. They will promise you the world... but it&#039;s always <i>just</i> out of reach. They need more funding. They need to land a contract with an impossible company to work with. They need six more months. They need... [<i>fill in the blank</i>]<br /> <br /> What should you do?<br /> <br /> <b>Walk away and don&#039;t look back. Ever.</b><br /> <br /> They are energy and money vampires.<br /> <br /> If they were legitimate, they wouldn&#039;t be talking to you in a place like this. Instead, they&#039;d be like <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lonnie_Johnson_(inventor)" target="_blank" class="link link--external" rel="nofollow ugc noopener">Lonnie Johnson</a> who patented his invention and then <i>went straight to the people who needed it</i>.<br /> <br /> You&#039;ve been warned! </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>You are correct, but this is kind of entertaining.</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper">You provided a link to the patent, which provides an exact drawing of the product, I give a legit reason as to why I do not think it will work, and you simply said that it doesn&#039;t work that way. Feel free to explain further if I was wrong, but I do not see the need for an NDA, When the first model hits the store shelf, then anybody in public can buy one and dissemble it and see the goods. Additionally, you need to be willing to sue a person (in their own state/country) for breaking an NDA, which means you would have funds to make this machine work without additional funding.<br /> <br /> Catch-22: if you have the funds to sue someone for infringing an NDA, then you never needed the funds to produce the product, and, if you don&#039;t have the funds to make the product, then it&#039;s pointless to worry about an NDA, so, feel free to explain away as to how it works, or post a video on the forum and we&#039;ll give your idea a whirl.</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 73436" data-quote="Lyinx" data-source="post: 954101" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/community/goto/post?id=954101" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-954101">Lyinx said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> done. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>There are big differences between a proposal and demand. Can you differentiate between the two?<br /> <blockquote data-attributes="member: 73436" data-quote="Lyinx" data-source="post: 954107" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/community/goto/post?id=954107" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-954107">Lyinx said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> Catch-22: if you have the funds to sue someone for infringing an NDA, then you never needed the funds to produce the product, and, if you don&#039;t have the funds to make the product, then it&#039;s pointless to worry about an NDA, so, feel free to explain away as to how it works, or post a video on the forum and we&#039;ll give your idea a whirl. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>Kindly leave that part to me. I need the NDA. Whether I have the fund to sue someone for breaching the contract isn&#039;t a matter of concern for anyone other than me. And I know how to deal with such issues in my own way.</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper">I have a question for others in this thread. Who (out of all of those who have posted here) have so far dealt with any kind of invention/innovation either by being an inventor/innovator or do some business with any kind of innovation/invention?</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 95917" data-quote="RevI" data-source="post: 952864" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/community/goto/post?id=952864" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-952864">RevI said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> I am an Indian physics graduate and I have been researching on my personal effort on a new kind of technology that can convert atmospheric heat into useful power/electricity and I have succeeded. It&#039;s actually a combination of a market available blower and a new kind of turbine that is the main part. The turbine has already been built and tested. A 1 meter diameter prototype can generate 3 kW output at 8 m/s wind. While a market available 1 meter diameter and just 50% efficient blower can generate 8 m/s airflow at the expense of just 500 W.<br /> I am now looking for partnership to develop it further. Can anybody here help anyhow in this regards? I am requesting those who are interested to have some idea about the technology first and then decide. It&#039;s a new and disruptive technology so an investor certainly have full right to get necessary information about this technology. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>Come on man. Join us in reality.<br /> None of what you are saying makes sense, everyone can see it.<br /> <br /> Living a fantasy outside reality is not living.<br /> Saying something IS when its NOT is a path to nothing.</div>
 
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<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 72236" data-quote="alexkuzmov" data-source="post: 954209" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/community/goto/post?id=954209" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-954209">alexkuzmov said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> Come on man. Join us in reality.<br /> None of what you are saying makes sense, everyone can see it.<br /> <br /> Living a fantasy outside reality is not living.<br /> Saying something IS when its NOT is a path to nothing. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>Everyone with blindfolds in their eyes can see it. I agree. And both &quot;fantasy&quot; and &quot;innovation&quot; needs some imagination capability that most like you lacks here.</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 95917" data-quote="RevI" data-source="post: 954210" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/community/goto/post?id=954210" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-954210">RevI said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> Everyone with blindfolds in their eyes can see it. I agree. And both &quot;fantasy&quot; and &quot;innovation&quot; needs some imagination capability that most like you lacks here. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>So I take it you prefer the fantasy world?<br /> Thats cool, at least you know where your road will lead you to.</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper">Reading several topics in this forum, it seems like it is packed of scam or may be genuine people that don&#039;t want to take risk, they want you to take it. <br /> <br /> Anyway, it&#039;s a good practice to see that world if filled with traps.</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 72236" data-quote="alexkuzmov" data-source="post: 954229" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/community/goto/post?id=954229" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-954229">alexkuzmov said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> Thats cool, at least you know where your road will lead you to. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>I know it well. Today morning I have got a signed NDA from an interested party from US.<br /> <blockquote data-attributes="member: 62642" data-quote="Alferez" data-source="post: 954230" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/community/goto/post?id=954230" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-954230">Alferez said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> Anyway, it&#039;s a good practice to see that world if filled with traps. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>And opportunities too. It&#039;s upto your capability to differentiate between a trap and an opportunity.</div>
 
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