<div class="bbWrapper">Yes, you have to consider both the value you bring to them and hours on your side.<br />
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On your side, it's completely clear and you do have to charge more than what's you get paid on 9-5.<br />
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From their perspective, everything isn't that simple. Besides the value they will get from the results of your work they also have other options besides you. They can hire someone in-house if that's something they would have to support in the future or hire another freelancer. So for example, it would be a bit hard to charge $30k if you know that many developers would do that for $15k and they know it too.<br />
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From another perspective, you have reasons to be more expensive for them as a contractor than a full-time employee:<br />
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<li data-xf-list-type="ol">They don't have to provide you with office space, workplace, and all the perks</li>
<li data-xf-list-type="ol">They probably pay taxes for the employees, but that depends on the laws in your country</li>
<li data-xf-list-type="ol">Hiring someone good is quite hard and expensive</li>
<li data-xf-list-type="ol">You can work on-demand while they need to have a steady workload for an employee, cause they pay him monthly</li>
<li data-xf-list-type="ol">They don't pay you on holidays, vacations, and sick leaves</li>
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Personally, when I was working on 9-5 I never took side hustles for less than 2x if it's quite big and tried to go fixed price that translates to up to 10x for smaller projects.<br />
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Sure but much of the time you have no idea what's the plan for the company and how much they make. In this case company is another digital agency that sells its work to others.
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</blockquote>So it's subcontracting? Then they'll need to have a margin on top of that or at least break even if that's an important client they want to keep.<br />
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What I was thinking more is<br />
"why should I work after hours for less if I can do overtime on my job if I really need the money"<br />
of course money does not always need to be the main criteria which then complicates the situation a bit
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</blockquote>It's not only about the money. <br />
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To build some non-employee skills, like sales and pricing your work that the whole topic is all about.<br />
Maybe new connections and an item for the portfolio would be helpful too.</div>