Will smoking weed make me lazy/hurt my (good) mindset?

[Telamon25346]

Feel free to start a private conversation with me if you'd like


Yeah, the JUUL has been a big epidemic in my area (and all around the U.S.) in schools and minors. My friends are addicted to them, but I have never really felt the urge to try it because it gives absolutely no benefits. They say they taste good like peaches and stuff, but if I wanted to taste peaches, I would go and eat some peaches, not inhale nicotine with a taste of peaches. The only reason I would consider smoking weed is to relieve stress and to make myself feel better.

as another teenager on the forum who's experienced weed, I'd say that the best way to relieve stress and make yourself feel better is through other solutions. definitely not substance abuse, if you rely on it to give you happiness and relieve stress, even once, it won't be good for you.

try meditation, exercise, spending time with people you like. there's tons of other ways to relieve stress and make yourself happy. and you definitely don't have to do so with the help of a substance.

 

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[OlivierMo]

A childhood friend of mine smoked weed and fell off heights and almost got disabled. He keeps doing it with alcohol and is a waste.
At a macro level, weed and drugs will change America for the worse. Please don't do it.

 

[samuraijack]

I never understand this argument. Being drunk and being high are both altered states and neither of them are particularly productive states. Just because one is legal and more socially acceptable does not make it better.

That is exactly my point. I'm pretty sure everyone in this thread is ok with him drinking a beer if he asked "will drinking beer make me lazy and hurt my good mindset". But just because it is weed everyone is vilifying it.

 

[samuraijack]

Thank you, very much. I honestly agree fully with that. My peers are all more like apes than humans and I can't really see them getting much done in their lifetime.

I appreciate the response.

I can say that about most kids your age, but that's not because of weed

 

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[100ToOne]

I'm 25 years old now.
I smoked weed from 17 to 21.

I never understood all the "anti-drug" propaganda before 17, I used to wonder why are they trying so hard to convince us youth to stay away. It seemed like all these grown ups would just keep lecturing us about everything like they knew everything...

I am not going to get in my long story but when I did eventually quit alcohol, weed and cigs at 22, I swear I now understood why they were fighting it so passionately.

You will always find other people who will tell you why you should try it, enjoy your life, it's just a joint and you can quit whenever you want. And also you will always find those people who are always telling you "don't do it", "it will waste your life", "you will destroy your future" even though they probably never seen a weed bud before...

But I'm part of the crew like these guys who replied before me that told you not to do it.

 

[Kak]

I think I got the response I need but if anyone has anything else to offer let me know!

I would say no. Hell no. I have tried it twice in my life. Once, I didn't feel like it did anything at all. The second time I got paranoid and freaked out thinking I was stuck that way. It was really the opposite of an enjoyable experience.

Go try a cigar. It is a far more relaxing experience in my opinion. I can also count on 2 hands the amount of alcoholic beverages I consume in a given year.

 

[Mattie]

I wouldn't encourage smoking pot or alcohol. It's a dead end to success. Your mental health or course is effected since this is part of the huge issue we have in Mental Health in America.

 

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[SquatchMan]

That is exactly my point. I'm pretty sure everyone in this thread is ok with him drinking a beer if he asked "will drinking beer make me lazy and hurt my good mindset". But just because it is weed everyone is vilifying it.

Drinking one beer doesn't make you lazy/useless though. They're different drugs will radically different side effects. That's why you get different responses.

I took one hit from a bong when I was 19 and was basically useless for 6 hours due to paranoia. One alcoholic drink doesn't do that.

I still wouldn't recommend alcohol... especially to a 15 y/o.

 

[Private Witt]

If I recall correctly from your intro you’re 15 years old and in Alabama? There are way too many negatives, especially at your age and Alabama’s position on the drug. I would explore exercise, meditation etc.

Listen to this. Focus on developing skills and health.

Im in the cannabis industry and my position is that usage does stunt development when used by young people and the states that have the age at 21 for recreational have it right. For those who need for legit medical is a different story.

 

[TonyStark]

I love my ganja

 

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[HIPPYOWL]

I smoke daily and it does make me unproductive. If you have addictive qualities like gaming addiction I would stay away because weed gives you a dopamine rush.

 

[Ninjakid]

Another thought came to mind,

One of the hardest working people I know smokes weed everyday. But for him it's probably a good stress reliever, as he has lots of that. And then all the other people I know who smoke weed work are just average.

Sure smoking weed can make you lazy, but so does alcohol, watching TV, and browsing social media; all things which people commonly do on their downtime.

I don't think weed itself will make you particularly lazy anymore than drinking or watching Netflix will. But I wouldn't get into the habit of overindulging in expedient activities.

 

[samuraijack]

One alcoholic drink doesn't do that.

I beg to differ

 

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[Ninjakid]

Drinking one beer doesn't make you lazy/useless though. They're different drugs will radically different side effects. That's why you get different responses.

I took one hit from a bong when I was 19 and was basically useless for 6 hours due to paranoia. One alcoholic drink doesn't do that.

I still wouldn't recommend alcohol... especially to a 15 y/o.

Um what?

Alcohol absolutely makes people lazy. It's a depressant. Not only that, it makes people violent, angry, reckless, while destroying their body.

There's been many times where I had just one beer, and suddenly I don't feel like doing anything.

And the worst part is it's highly addictive. European countries where it's common to have a beer or wine with meals also have high rates of alcoholism.

Marijuana definitely has it's downsides but alcohol exponentially more destructive.

 

[harp1600]

as another teenager on the forum who's experienced weed, I'd say that the best way to relieve stress and make yourself feel better is through other solutions. definitely not substance abuse, if you rely on it to give you happiness and relieve stress, even once, it won't be good for you.

try meditation, exercise, spending time with people you like. there's tons of other ways to relieve stress and make yourself happy. and you definitely don't have to do so with the help of a substance.

You're a teen, eh? Please message me as I'm trying to make connections with like-minded people in my age range!

 

[harp1600]

I would say no. Hell no. I have tried it twice in my life. Once, I didn't feel like it did anything at all. The second time I got paranoid and freaked out thinking I was stuck that way. It was really the opposite of an enjoyable experience.

Go try a cigar. It is a far more relaxing experience in my opinion. I can also count on 2 hands the amount of alcoholic beverages I consume in a given year.

Wow! Thank you, KAK! You're actually a huge role model of mine, to be honest. I really enjoy reading your threads and I hope Kill Bigger works out for you! If I had the money, I would invest in that fully! Love what you're doing, man! Keep up the great work!

 

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[jon.M]

You've grinded out for weeks. And you feel the need to take a break and do some drugs.

You need to gain some strength. You've got so many years of challenge ahead of you. And you can't get through that by relying on external factors.

If you're 15 years old, you shouldn't be asking what sort of medication people recommend to help you deal with the hardships of your month-old business.

Focus on becoming an adult first.

Here are some smarter 'new' things to experiment with:

Start hitting the weights. Grow a physique. It teaches you self-discipline and helps attracts girls or boys that might help you 'enjoy your youth'. You will become more self-confident.

Do some cardio. It makes your brain respond better to stress. It increases blood flow and intelligence.

Do something you hate. Take cold showers for a month. Cut out Doritos. Whatever. Stop being bound by your short-term desire for easy fixes and highs.

Stop being a nerd.

 

[Ninjakid]

Stop being a nerd.

Hey, as an offensive I find this nerd.

 

[harp1600]

You've grinded out for weeks. And you feel the need to take a break and do some drugs.

You need to gain some strength. You've got so many years of challenge ahead of you. And you can't get through that by relying on external factors.

If you're 15 years old, you shouldn't be asking what sort of medication people recommend to help you deal with the hardships of your month-old business.

Focus on becoming an adult first.

Here are some smarter 'new' things to experiment with:

Start hitting the weights. Grow a physique. It teaches you self-discipline and helps attracts girls or boys that might help you 'enjoy your youth'. You will become more self-confident.

Do some cardio. It makes your brain respond better to stress. It increases blood flow and intelligence.

Do something you hate. Take cold showers for a month. Cut out Doritos. Whatever. Stop being bound by your short-term desire for easy fixes and highs.

Stop being a nerd.

I appreciate some of the advice, but I have a few things to say.

I have owned my business for a little year a year and a half now and everything has been good. Sales have been going up over time, everything good. But, I and my partner have been dealing with many problems along with business such as family, school, etc.

Can't speak for my partner, but my parents tell me that my business will never work and that I need to get a job almost every day(when I don't have time to do that when I have a business and school), and people at school come up to my face and tell me that I suck at what I do.

Emotions don't get to me but life is just hard sometimes, no matter the age. There are many other problems, but I'd rather not mention them as they are just a little too personal but nevertheless, I'd just like to let you know that I'm not a little pussy that has a little lemonade stand that cries to his mommy every 3 seconds.

Anyhow, I don't doubt I will have harder times, but I'd just like to share that with you.

Stop being a nerd.

What does that mean lol

 

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[harp1600]

You've grinded out for weeks. And you feel the need to take a break and do some drugs.

You need to gain some strength. You've got so many years of challenge ahead of you. And you can't get through that by relying on external factors.

If you're 15 years old, you shouldn't be asking what sort of medication people recommend to help you deal with the hardships of your month-old business.

Focus on becoming an adult first.

Here are some smarter 'new' things to experiment with:

Start hitting the weights. Grow a physique. It teaches you self-discipline and helps attracts girls or boys that might help you 'enjoy your youth'. You will become more self-confident.

Do some cardio. It makes your brain respond better to stress. It increases blood flow and intelligence.

Do something you hate. Take cold showers for a month. Cut out Doritos. Whatever. Stop being bound by your short-term desire for easy fixes and highs.

Stop being a nerd.

Sidenote: I'm sure you were joking around and being a little edgy on some of that but just wanted to let you know my backstory so you could give me advice relative to that.

Also, I do work out sometimes but it is really hard to get time in for that because I go to school full time (I'm in tenth grade), I run my business, and sometimes I have to get a part-time job to scrape up some cash to satisfy my parents to make them think I actually do something with my time (they have the ideology that I should get instant pay and that bullsh*t)

 

[Timmy C]

Sidenote: I'm sure you were joking around and being a little edgy on some of that but just wanted to let you know my backstory so you could give me advice relative to that.

Also, I do work out sometimes but it is really hard to get time in for that because I go to school full time (I'm in tenth grade), I run my business, and sometimes I have to get a part-time job to scrape up some cash to satisfy my parents to make them think I actually do something with my time (they have the ideology that I should get instant pay and that bullsh*t)

If you think that's hard wait for adulthood to slap you in the face like a ton of bricks.

 

[Bekit]

There's a concurrent thread on the forum that has some concrete examples of the downsides.

Down and out... a warning.

The way I look at it, you're opening a door. It's a FAR bigger step to go from "never" to "just this once," than it is to go from "just this once" to "just once more." Do you really want to open that door? Zero to one is a big hurdle. One to "one more" is a much smaller hurdle. Keeping a big hurdle in place is a way of erring on the safe side.

I spent 6 months volunteering in a drug and alcohol rehab center. I guarantee you, no one in there ever started with the the intentional thought, "I'm going to ruin my life."

Instead, they ALL started with some variation of the thought, "I just want a little break, a little relief, a little comfort, a little fun. It won't hurt me. It'll help."

Not everyone becomes a full-blown addict, but that's not the point. The point is, the stuff is a fraudulent solution. It holds out a promise. The promise is, "I'm going to help you to have that break, forget your troubles, enjoy yourself. I won't hurt you."

At the end of the day, the promise is a lie. It robs from you more than it gives. Little by little, the more space you give it in your life, the more it steals from you. It has the potential to rob from you, one by one, in no particular order, any or all of the following...

• Your mental health
• Your family relationships
• Your physical health
• Custody of your children
• Your employment and employability
• Your housing
• Your ability to provide for yourself
• Your sense of self-worth
• The relationship with the love of your life
• Good standing in society (your freedom vs. being in jail)
• Your money

So long-term, it DOES hurt you. It promised you it wouldn't. It promised you it was fun. But I guarantee you, the loss of any one of the things I listed is NOT fun, much less the loss of multiple items or all of them.

Will one time make you lose all this? Nope.
Are there people who are able to use in moderation and they sustain a reasonable lifestyle? Yep.
Are you one of the ones who will use in moderation or someone who might go too far? I don't know.

You don't know either. Experimenting with mind-altering substances is taking a big risk.

I'd take a look at your addictive tendencies. Do you tend to over-indulge in addictive substances like sugar, video games, or cell phone use? Then you should be very cautious around addictive substances that could harm you.

Check out the lives of your grandparents, uncles, aunts, parents, cousins. People who are older than you, whose habits are established. Are there a lot of alcoholics? Overweight people? If so, your genetic predisposition is probably NOT to be self-disciplined and moderate when it comes to stuff like this.

If you're in 10th grade and you have a business, that is something worth cheering for, something worth the standing ovation of everyone on this forum, something worth holding on to with everything you've got.

By the way, I'm really sorry your parents don't support you. They should be your biggest cheerleaders. In the absence of that, you'll need extra support from external sources, and I'm glad you're in the forum where you can find that.

Save the drugs for when you're 35 and stressed about life...

Just have to say... I'm 36, and I'm in a season of my life that is SUPER stressful... but if I were to turn to drugs at this point in my journey, it would be catastrophic to my progress toward my goals.

 

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[MJ DeMarco]

While I agree weed has been erroneously vilified by the mainstream, I'd stay away from it (and another other drugs) in your developmental years.

If you're set on trying it, please wait until you are older and have a purpose for it, such as pain relief, stress relief, creative sessions, etc.

As mentioned, YES, there are a lot of successful folks who smoke, but there are also a lot who do not.

 

[harp1600]

There's a concurrent thread on the forum that has some concrete examples of the downsides.

Down and out... a warning.

The way I look at it, you're opening a door. It's a FAR bigger step to go from "never" to "just this once," than it is to go from "just this once" to "just once more." Do you really want to open that door? Zero to one is a big hurdle. One to "one more" is a much smaller hurdle. Keeping a big hurdle in place is a way of erring on the safe side.

I spent 6 months volunteering in a drug and alcohol rehab center. I guarantee you, no one in there ever started with the the intentional thought, "I'm going to ruin my life."

Instead, they ALL started with some variation of the thought, "I just want a little break, a little relief, a little comfort, a little fun. It won't hurt me. It'll help."

Not everyone becomes a full-blown addict, but that's not the point. The point is, the stuff is a fraudulent solution. It holds out a promise. The promise is, "I'm going to help you to have that break, forget your troubles, enjoy yourself. I won't hurt you."

At the end of the day, the promise is a lie. It robs from you more than it gives. Little by little, the more space you give it in your life, the more it steals from you. It has the potential to rob from you, one by one, in no particular order, any or all of the following...

• Your mental health
• Your family relationships
• Your physical health
• Custody of your children
• Your employment and employability
• Your housing
• Your ability to provide for yourself
• Your sense of self-worth
• The relationship with the love of your life
• Good standing in society (your freedom vs. being in jail)
• Your money

So long-term, it DOES hurt you. It promised you it wouldn't. It promised you it was fun. But I guarantee you, the loss of any one of the things I listed is NOT fun, much less the loss of multiple items or all of them.

Will one time make you lose all this? Nope.
Are there people who are able to use in moderation and they sustain a reasonable lifestyle? Yep.
Are you one of the ones who will use in moderation or someone who might go too far? I don't know.

You don't know either. Experimenting with mind-altering substances is taking a big risk.

I'd take a look at your addictive tendencies. Do you tend to over-indulge in addictive substances like sugar, video games, or cell phone use? Then you should be very cautious around addictive substances that could harm you.

Check out the lives of your grandparents, uncles, aunts, parents, cousins. People who are older than you, whose habits are established. Are there a lot of alcoholics? Overweight people? If so, your genetic predisposition is probably NOT to be self-disciplined and moderate when it comes to stuff like this.

If you're in 10th grade and you have a business, that is something worth cheering for, something worth the standing ovation of everyone on this forum, something worth holding on to with everything you've got.

By the way, I'm really sorry your parents don't support you. They should be your biggest cheerleaders. In the absence of that, you'll need extra support from external sources, and I'm glad you're in the forum where you can find that.



Just have to say... I'm 36, and I'm in a season of my life that is SUPER stressful... but if I were to turn to drugs at this point in my journey, it would be catastrophic to my progress toward my goals.

Wow. I don't even know what to say... Thank you so much for this and I won't be a stupid teen, but I will listen to this. I am thankful for people like you. Have a great night.

 

[Kak]

I appreciate some of the advice, but I have a few things to say.

I have owned my business for a little year a year and a half now and everything has been good. Sales have been going up over time, everything good. But, I and my partner have been dealing with many problems along with business such as family, school, etc.

Can't speak for my partner, but my parents tell me that my business will never work and that I need to get a job almost every day(when I don't have time to do that when I have a business and school), and people at school come up to my face and tell me that I suck at what I do.

Emotions don't get to me but life is just hard sometimes, no matter the age. There are many other problems, but I'd rather not mention them as they are just a little too personal but nevertheless, I'd just like to let you know that I'm not a little pussy that has a little lemonade stand that cries to his mommy every 3 seconds.

Anyhow, I don't doubt I will have harder times, but I'd just like to share that with you.



What does that mean lol

You sound like you have a very level head. No one knows your business like you. Good job going against the grain at such a young age. Good job seeking wise counsel, and genuinely wanting to listen at such a young age. Good job actually starting a business!

The people at school... What the hell have they done? What do they have to be proud of? This is probably jealousy.

Jealousy also comes from the strangest of places sometimes... Parents can even be jealous of their kids. It happens. Frequently. I don't know if this is the case here, but understand that if you have a cash flowing business that can pay legitimate bills in your teenage years, you have done something you should be proud of.

Use your head, you clearly have one, make your own determinations of what is important. Continue to seek the wisdom of people you respect. That will serve you well. I think you are going to end up doing something pretty cool.

 

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[harp1600]

You sound like you have a very level head. No one knows your business like you. Good job going against the grain at such a young age. Good job seeking wise counsel, and genuinely wanting to listen at such a young age. Good job actually starting a business!

The people at school... What the hell have they done? What do they have to be proud of? This is probably jealousy.

Jealousy also comes from the strangest of places sometimes... Parents can even be jealous of their kids. It happens. Frequently. I don't know if this is the case here, but understand that if you have a cash flowing business that can pay legitimate bills in your teenage years, you have done something you should be proud of.

Use your head, you clearly have one, make your own determinations of what is important. Continue to seek the wisdom of people you respect. That will serve you well. I think you are going to end up doing something pretty cool.

Coming from you, that is awesome! I really hope I apply myself and don't give up in the future. I think this forum will be the catalyst for my success(if it happens).

I do believe the people at school could be jealous because I buy my clothes, my shoes, etc with my own money and they know that so that could be it. My parents, however, just don't want me to fail. I'm sure they know what's best for me, but this time I have to dispute.

They are simply afraid that my business will not work. I have told them about MJ's books and my dad is actually reading TMF (that I bought him) and he enjoys it. My mom, however, thinks its a load of bullsh*t, but that's understandable because she gets paid for her time.

Have a great day, Kak.

 

[TheCj]

The whole need a substance too unwind mentality is one I don't understand... If your working so hard that you need a break then take a break..
How does adding a substance help you take a break?? It is already adding more stress in just deciding if you should.. Be it weed, alcohol, other drugs, sugar, coffee etc...
From what i know all these substances cause dopamine hits or other chemical reactions. This in turn alters how your brain perceives feeling good.
Why are drugs so popular because they work, they give a person a high that is unattainable naturally. Your brain will now learn that this is the best you can feel and will rewire to be used to that. All of a sudden a natural high is just dim in comparison. So now you chase that feeling and have to keep pushing that threshold. Maybe am going on a tangent.
So for myself why would I want to make it harder to feel good all the time.

Another thought that comes to my mind when thinking about what i put in my body. Is that every cell in the human body is replaced over a period of 10years.. so is it any wonder that people feel great in there 20's after being under the most restrictive/healthiest diet in there child hood set by parents. Limited sugar, no drinking, drugs or smoking. Then after partying and eating like crap in 20's there body goes to crap in 30's. All the new cells have been created with less than ideal food and the body is constantly fighting, cleaning toxins. Some people will turn it around after health scares and be better in 40's and 50's. Just how I think about things when choosing what I put my body through.

 

[Kak]

Coming from you, that is awesome! I really hope I apply myself and don't give up in the future. I think this forum will be the catalyst for my success(if it happens).

I do believe the people at school could be jealous because I buy my clothes, my shoes, etc with my own money and they know that so that could be it. My parents, however, just don't want me to fail. I'm sure they know what's best for me, but this time I have to dispute.

They are simply afraid that my business will not work. I have told them about MJ's books and my dad is actually reading TMF (that I bought him) and he enjoys it. My mom, however, thinks its a load of bullsh*t, but that's understandable because she gets paid for her time.

Have a great day, Kak.

Who pays her for her time? Chances are she works for a company. A company that somebody started at some point in time.

There is a VAST divide between a get rich quick scheme and principled entrepreneurship. It might not be common in you or your parents' social circles... But remember... Every single company was founded by someone.

 

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[harp1600]

Who pays her for her time? Chances are she works for a company. A company that somebody started at some point in time.

There is a VAST divide between a get rich quick scheme and principled entrepreneurship. It might not be common in your social circles... But remember... Every single company was founded by someone.

Oops... Meant to say she was a teacher. She works at an elementary school. Being a teacher is better than being a factory worker, but considering she is a public service worker, I don't understand how she can bash me for wanting to try something new.

Also, keep in mind I live in a VERY traditional small town so if you wear a pink shirt to school, you're gay. If you don't believe in Jesus, you're Satanic. So on, and so forth. My parents have inherited the ideology due to living here for so long so being an ENTREPRENEUR is weird as f*ck. A job in an office is very successful for my town.

 

[biophase]

This is my opinion. In business you want to have a sharp mind. I would be in meetings with people who just couldn't make a coherent argument or understand logic. Many times after I would find out that this person was a heavy pot smoker when he was younger. That formulated my opinion that too much smoking has made these person's brain dull. This was before I ever smoked.

The first time I tried it was when I was over 40. After being unable to function for a full day, I really felt I killed some brain cells and it did reinforce my belief. I just can't see how someone work smokes regularly could function at a high level. I understand that they can function and do things, but why run at 75% instead of 100%, especially if you are building a business.

I have since tried it a few more times, it's easy since I spend alot of time in Colorado now, and it's not something I enjoy at all. Not being able to complete a thought in my head is scary. I don't find any of it relaxing at all. BTW, I don't drink at all and have been buzzed once in my life. Didn't like that either.

So my vote is don't do it. Because nothing good can come from it. If you like it, you will do it more often and be not 100% more often. If you hate it, then you hate it. There's no +EV here.

I decided to try it because I hadn't done it at all and I was in Amsterdam so why not right?