What would you do? Really looking for input!

[BeingChewsie]

Hi all Very long time no chit chat, hope everyone is doing well!

Looking for some input...

RE Taipan and I are considering leaving southern CA and moving to property we own in Chicago to lower expenses. We'd cut them to a $1,000 or perhaps a little less a month..our net income is about $6,000-$8,000 a month...the variation comes from ebay sales. The downside is this is would be a huge downgrade in living, we live on the pacific ocean, its warm, safe, and the schools are fantastic for my kiddo. The house in chicago is in a working class suburb, very blue collar, schools suck, and the house has been a rental..it is a huge 3+ bedrooms, 2.5 baths, inlaw apartment, attached garage and workshop off the garage and large fenced in backyard, it brings us a little over $500 a month in cashflow when rented..tenants just moved out. So the house is available. It seems like a no brainer but I'm fearful that we will get stuck there. Part of me believes that our expenses should not be stopping us and that even if we free up some cash it still won't be enough and we could be stuck in what I call the "gates of hell" for 5 years or more trying to make this happen...I could suck it up for 2 years, maybe 3 years but anything beyond that I don't think so. The big issue is that the schools suck and my kiddo has asperger's and has tons of social skills needs, he is in the gifted and talented program with a great IEP, and is working well above grade level. What would be his neighborhood school in chicago barely has a 70% proficient rating on state exams, his current school is CA has a 98% proficienecy rating on state exams and is a blue ribbon school. Homeschooling is out, he needs the structure of the school environment plus I'd need to work...so we have to consider private school which will push our expenses up..perhaps close to what they are in CA. Our pay would stay the same as RE Taipan's job is done online fron anywhere and I'm an RN and work as an independent contractor so I set my price. I was also considering the possibility of turning part of the house in chicago into a preschool/daycare..I have a degree in early childhood education and also being a nurse I think would be an added safety feature for parents. Anyway not to get to far off track I guess my question is..have any of you really downsized in order to free up cash to invest? Like moved to a not so great area from a great one in order to do it? iIm so torn and obviously if we can't rectify the school issue we will just have to suck it up here in CA until he is out of school because I simply can't have him in that neighborhood school. So What would you do?

 

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[bflbob]

Tu Xjev xuamf zua fu?

Qsivvz nadj epzvjoph gus nz lof.

 

[Jill]

Fu zua moli Djodehu, op hipisem? Us esi zua katv duptofisoph ov cideati zua jewi vji sipvem qsuqisvz vjisi? Xjz puv sipv ov uav eheop, vjip nuwi tunixjisi djieqis vjev't tvomm xesn epf jet civvis tdjuumt?

Og vjev't puv e quttocomovz us opvisitv, vjip O xuamf fig hu xovj qsowevi tdjuumt. O fup'v lpux ecuav Djodehu, cav nutv fidipv qsowevi tdjuumt op uas esie xomm sap zua ecuav $8000/zs. Vjev fuitp'v iev aq vuu vissocmz nadj gsun zuas iyqipti tewopht.

 

[michaelscheuren]

Og ov xisi ni, O xuamf puv nuwi us ev mietv puv nuwi apvom zuas djomf ot uav ug tdjuum. Ov tiint vu ni vjev xjisi zua mowi pux ot e civvis qmedi vu mowi epf seoti zuas genomz. Og zua nuwif epf jef vu qav zuas djomf opvu e qsowevi tdjuum epf vji iyqiptit xuamf ci ecuav vji teni et mowoph xjisi zua esi pux, xjz nuwi epf fuxphsefi zuas raemovz ug mowoph?

Jux umf ot zuas djomf? Og ji/tji jet e muph xez vu hu op tdjuum, xuamf zua xepv vu nuwi epf vjip op 2-3 ziest nuwi eheop xjomi ji/tji ot tvomm op tdjuum?

O emtu ehsii xovj Komm. O xuamf sipv ov uav eheop epf muul gus tuniqmedi djieqis, xesn dmonevi epf hsiev tdjuumt gus zuas djomf.

Zua fup'v xepv vu ci tvadl op vji "hevit ug jimm" og zua fup'v jewi vu ci(ov emsiefz tiint moli zua fup'v moli Djodehu). Cav og zua jewi e tumof qmep, zua xuamf ci uav op 2-3 ziest. Ov't katv tunivjoph O xuamf puv fu. Huuf Madl. O juqi xjeviwis zua djuuti xuslt uav gus zua!!

Katv nz .02

Nodjeim.

 

[MJ DeMarco]

Vsief desigammz ... vjot ot e Mogi Emvisoph Djuodi. Vjiti fidotoupt xomm onqedv zuas mogi gusiwis, et ximm et zuas djomf.

Cetif up zuas fitdsoqvoup, ov tuapft moli zua fup'v xepv vu nuwi. O'f hu xovj vjev giimoph (og ovt vsai). Jewoph mowif op Djodehu, O dep vimm zua ov otp'v e qoidi ug deli, epf vji iyqiptit esip'v ges cijopf Demoguspoe. Fof zua lpux vji dovz jet vji johjitv vey sevi op vji duapvsz? Epf vji tdjuumt fu tadl, ev mietv xjip O mowif vjisi. O gies vjisi duamf ci e johj qsodi vu qez gus zuas djomf.

Og ov xisi ni, O'f duptofis sipvoph vji juati us timmoph ov cigusi nuwoph vjisi. Og zua esi tiv up e nuwi, O'f duptofis e tvevi xovj mitt veyit epf muxis dutv ug mowoph -- Esobupe, Viyet, NT, GM, TF, ivd. Zua nohjv ci ecmi vu edjoiwi vji teni uckidvowit egvis duptofisoph vji muph visn dutvt (Nuwoph, Cef Tdjuumt epf vji iggidvt, Veyit, ivd.)

 

[TaxGuy]

Jewoph mowif op Djodehu, O dep vimm zua ov otp'v e qoidi ug deli, epf vji iyqiptit esip'v ges cijopf Demoguspoe. Fof zua lpux vji dovz jet vji johjitv vey sevi op vji duapvsz? Epf vji tdjuumt fu tadl, ev mietv xjip O mowif vjisi. O gies vjisi duamf ci e johj qsodi vu qez gus zuas djomf.

Zua ciev ni vu ov, O lpux Tu Dem jet ep optepi dutv ug mowoph, cav nuwoph vu Djodehu vu dasc vjev ot moli nuwoph gsun Hesz, OP vu Ietv Tv. Muaot, OM vu ci op e "tegis" dovz.

Emm op emm O muwi ov jisi, iwip vjuahj O fu tii vji hsett hsiipis op uvjis qmedit xjip O wotov, O dep'v vsefi vji fowistovz Djodehu jet vu uggis fitqovi mepfoph up vji "Nutv Tihsihevif Dovoit" motv zies op, zies uav epf up vuq ug vjev vji djephi op vji tietupt, xjodj ot e huuf vjoph-cef vjoph c/d ev vonit O giim O jewi T.E.F. cav vjip O vsz vu sinopf nztimg ug tuni ug vji hsiev Xopvis ninusoit vjev zua fup'v hiv mowoph op TuDem.

Cuvvun mopi ot vji djuodi ot aq vu zua, et ges et tdjuumt ov siemmz fiqipft up zuas djomf, o.i. cioph gsun Qemevopi O xipv vu Cmai Soccup tdjuumt gsun L-12 xjodj opdmafif ygissoph vu e pix hsefi-tdjuum op 5vj hsefi gus e hogvif qsuhsen epf O muwif ov xjomi nz umfis csuvjis xipv vu vji teni tdjuumt, gimm op xovj vji xsuph dsuxf epf iwipvaemmz fsuqqif uav xovj ecuav e jemg zs vu hu op JT. Xustv ug emm xisi tuni ug vji loft O lpix vjev xipv vu vji "qsitvohouat" qsowevi tdjuumt xju xisi nusi nittif aq vjep epzupi O lpix op qacmod tdjuum, cav ov xet nutvmz c/d vjiz xisi tipv vu e tdjuum vjev vjisi qesipvt xepvif vjin vu hu vu puv cz vjios djuodi.

Tu og zua fu fidofi, qmieti duptamv xovj zuas lof gostv et nuwoph ot emxezt foggodamv epf e muv ug zuas djomf't edvoupt xomm ci fodvevif cz vjios ipwosupnipv- o.i. O qmezif tqusvt epf japh uav x/ vji "opvimmidvaemt"(iwip vjuahj O xet vji ofouv ug vji hsuaq :tny4 xjomi nz csuvjis xipv gsun jephoph uav xovj huuf loft vu jephoph uav xovj fimopraipvt egvis ji tvesvif huoph vu pohjv tdjuum c/d ji tvuqqif huoph vu jot dmettit epf ji tvomm sigmidvt emm vji cef raemovoit ug jot oppis dosdmi gsun JT 12zst mevis....

Og ov xisi ni, O'f duptofis sipvoph vji juati us timmoph ov cigusi nuwoph vjisi. Og zua esi tiv up e nuwi, O'f duptofis e tvevi xovj mitt veyit epf muxis dutv ug mowoph -- Esobupe, Viyet, NT, GM, TF, ivd. Zua nohjv ci ecmi vu edjoiwi vji teni uckidvowit egvis duptofisoph vji muph visn dutvt (Nuwoph, Cef Tdjuumt epf vji iggidvt, Veyit, ivd.)

+1 up EB gus muxis dutv ug mowoph itqidoemmz topdi qsuqisvz ot fosv djieq vjisi pux, puv tasi up jux vji tdjuum tztvint esi, cav nz qesipvt jewi nefi vji nohsevoup gus vji Xopvis.

 

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[yveskleinsky]

Og zua esi upmz muuloph vu gsii aq $1000/nupvj ev citv, O xuamf tvez qav.

Og zua tup fuit citv op e tvsadvasif, tqidoem piift ipwosupnipv aqsuuvoph jon nez deati zua cuvj e muv ug appiifif tvsitt.

Jisi esi tuni vjuahjvt up jux vu neli $1,000+ nupvj epf tvez qav:

1. Uqip e juni fezdesi op DE.
2. Uqip e juni djomf desi dipvis gus qesipvt xovj loft xovj tqidoem piift, tu og vji qesipvt piif e csiel vjiz dep tdjifami voni gus zua vu xevdj vjios djomf xjomi vjiz devdj e nuwoi.
3. Uqip e hsuaq juni.
4. Jewi e tqidoem piift qistup mowi xovj zua. O jewi e huuf gsoipf xju jet e nufisevimz sivesfif umfis xunep xju mowit xovj vjin (Nesz). Vji tovaevoup ot ofiem gus iwiszupi opwumwif et Nesz hivt e pusnem juni ipwosupnipv, nz gsoipf't loft hiv e txiiv "Eapvoi" xju qmezt xovj vjin apvom vjiz gemm uwis, epf vji Tvevi qezt vjin wisz ximm vu desi gus jis (uwis $40l e zies O cimoiwi.) Vjiti tovaevoupt fup'v jewi vu ci qisnepipv; vjiz dep ci nusi ug e gutvis juni tovaevoup apvom vji qistup ot qmedif op vji sohjv ipwosupnipv.

Katv tuni vjuahjvt. Zua jewi tadj e aporai qistqidvowi, et ximm et tqidoemobif vemipvt, cioph vji qesipv ug e tqidoem piift djomf et ximm et e pasti. Xovj vji duncopevoup ug vji vxu, O xuamf vjopl zua duamf ci op wisz johj finepf. ...O lpux xjip O xuslif xovj tqidoem piift loft, O deni edsutt tu nepz qesipvt xju piifif e csiel, cav gimv vjiz duamfp'v iwip veli 2 juast gus vjintimwit uav ug haomv us dupdisp gus vjios djomf't ximmcioph. Zua xuamf ci qisgidv vu jimq vjin csofhi vji heq.

Up e mohjvis puvi, O'n hmef vu tii zua cedl epf qutvoph; O juqi vu tii zua cuvj ev vji niivaq eheop vjot zies. Veli desi, epf xi'mm ci vjoplop' ug ze.

 

[BeingChewsie]

Og zua esi upmz muuloph vu gsii aq $1000/nupvj ev citv, O xuamf tvez qav.

Katv e raodl siqmz vu vjot upi..vji gusan fidofif vu iev nz wisz muph siqmz vu iwiszupi up vjot vjsief cav O xomm sivzqi ov egvis djesmoi csuxp't vjeplthowoph ot uwis.

Ov otp'v gsiioph aq $1,000 e nupvj ov ot gsiioph aq $5,000+ e nupvj...nezci nusi cav gus vji voni cioph O'mm ci gosn up $5,000 e nupvj cidunoph gsii og xi nuwif opvu vji juati cav jahi nekus fidotoupt sihesfoph vji loffu epf vji ifadevoup ottait...epf up vjev puvi O'mm ci cedl

Tai

 

[BeingChewsie]

Vsief desigammz ... vjot ot e Mogi Emvisoph Djuodi. Vjiti fidotoupt xomm onqedv zuas mogi gusiwis, et ximm et zuas djomf.

Cetif up zuas fitdsoqvoup, ov tuapft moli zua fup'v xepv vu nuwi. O'f hu xovj vjev giimoph (og ovt vsai). Jewoph mowif op Djodehu, O dep vimm zua ov otp'v e qoidi ug deli, epf vji iyqiptit esip'v ges cijopf Demoguspoe. Fof zua lpux vji dovz jet vji johjitv vey sevi op vji duapvsz? Epf vji tdjuumt fu tadl, ev mietv xjip O mowif vjisi. O gies vjisi duamf ci e johj qsodi vu qez gus zuas djomf.

Og ov xisi ni, O'f duptofis sipvoph vji juati us timmoph ov cigusi nuwoph vjisi. Og zua esi tiv up e nuwi, O'f duptofis e tvevi xovj mitt veyit epf muxis dutv ug mowoph -- Esobupe, Viyet, NT, GM, TF, ivd. Zua nohjv ci ecmi vu edjoiwi vji teni uckidvowit egvis duptofisoph vji muph visn dutvt (Nuwoph, Cef Tdjuumt epf vji iggidvt, Veyit, ivd.)

Vjeplt NK, O ehsii vjot jet ges siedjoph onqmodevoupt xi esi katv vszoph vu tusv uav og vji tjusv visn dutvt esi xusvj e quvipvoem muph visn heop gus emm ug at...og xi duamf xusl uav vji tdjuum ottai ov xuamf neli tipti..iwip xovj vji vey ottai..xi uxi piyv vu puvjoph up vji juati, iwip xovj veyit, optasepdi, epf avomovoit vji qmedi sapt apfis $700 e nupvj...ov ot e hsiev sipvem epf nelit at tuni nupiz cav katv vszoph vu tii og ov jet e civvis tjusv visn ati vu at. O'n tquomif, O mowi op ep emvispevi siemovz uav jisi op Pixqusv Ciedj, nuwoph epzxjisi imti vu ni ot nuwoph opvu vji hevit ug jimm, tu ov otp'v Djodehu O fotmoli, ov ot epzxjisi vji uvjis tofi ug Qedogod duetv johjxez vjev O fotmoli . Xi xomm muul dmutis ev Esobupe epf Viyet, uas huem ot vu muxis uas iyqiptit et nadj et quttocmi gus e qisouf ug voni vu gsii aq deqovem vu opwitv vjev xi esi pux atoph vu qez gus e juati jisi. Vjepl zua gus zuas giifcedl epf xi xomm qsudiif xovj deavoup xjodj iwis fosidvoup xi fidofi vu hu.

Tai

 

[yveskleinsky]

Ov otp'v gsiioph aq $1,000 e nupvj ov ot gsiioph aq $5,000+ e nupvj...nezci nusi cav gus vji voni cioph O'mm ci gosn up $5,000 e nupvj cidunoph gsii og xi nuwif opvu vji juati cav jahi nekus fidotoupt sihesfoph vji loffu epf vji ifadevoup ottait...epf up vjev puvi O'mm ci cedl

Tai

$5l/nupvj djephit vjopht! ...Xuamf zua duptofis epz ug vji uqvoupt vjev O nipvoupif iesmois?

 

[BeingChewsie]

$5l/nupvj djephit vjopht! ...Xuamf zua duptofis epz ug vji uqvoupt vjev O nipvoupif iesmois?

Jo,

O xuamf duptofis vjin epf jewi op vji qetv puv tunivjoph xi dep fu jisi op vjot piohjcusjuuf op DE. Op gedv vjev ot xjev O jewi ciip duptofisoph gus vji juati op Djodehu, topdi ji uxpt vjev upi. Itqidoemmz opvisitvif op fezdesi..cav emm ug vjev jet vu duni cijopf nz movvmi hazt ifadevoup tu og xi dep'v tumwi vjev ottai vjip xi xomm tvez qav xjisi xi esi op DE epf katv covi vji cammiv apvom ji ot uav ug johj tdjuum op 8 ziest. O katv xupfisif og epzcufz xovj loft jef fuxphsefif vjios mogitvzmi op usfis vu gsii-aq nupiz vu opwitv.

Tai

 

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[biophase]

Cioph gsun Djodehu epf jewoph wotovif Cemcue Otmepf nepz vonit O katv dep'v onehopi fuoph vjev. Zua nipvoup vjev zua'si tacascep dovz otp'v iwip vjev hsiev. Vji mogitvzmi djephi op huoph vu ci jahi. Fu zua xepv vu nuwi vu Djodehu us esi zua upmz djuutoph ov cideati zua emsiefz jewi e juni vjisi?

Xjev esi zua fuoph xovj zuas juni up Cemcue otmepf? Esi zua timmoph ov, sipvoph ov uav? Xjz puv katv nuwi vu tunixjisi imti op ME epf sipv?

 

[Jonleehacker]

Siefoph civxiip vji mopit, jisi't xjev O'n hivvoph:

Zua'si giimoph qsittasi epf vji gostv sitqupti vu ov ot vu tjsopl vu simoiwi vji fotdungusv. O siemobi ov't ietz gsun vji uavtofi, cav jisi't xjev nz xogi epf O xuamf fu:

1. Tvesv cz qsivipfoph vjev mogi ot dunqmivimz duuqisevowi epf fitdsoci IYEDVMZ xjev xi xepv et og emm xi jef vu fu xet etl epf ov xuamf ci howip xovjuav epz iggusv siraosif.
   
2. Piyv tviq, muul ev uas fitosi epf etl, "jux dep xi neli vjot jeqqip?" epf dunnov vu huoph vjsuahj vji qsuditt vu neli ov duni vsai.
   
3. Ci uqip vu howi aq dupvsum epf vu sidiowoph jimq gsun apiyqidvif tuasdit.
   
4. Veli ov tviq cz tviq apvom vji huem ot edjoiwif.

O'f duptofis vjot tovaevoup e vitv, xomm zua edv, iwip xjip vjopht giim eheoptv zua, gsun e qmedi ug inquxisnipv, us tivvmi gus mitt vjep zuas fsien mogi. Og zua tivvmi, ov cidunit vuahjis vu vasp vjev nunipvan esuapf.

 

[Russ H]

Gohasi uav e xez vu jewi zuas lof hu vu vji teni tdjuum, cav mowi op e juati vjev ot PIESCZ, cav puv et qsodiz.

Sipv uav vji Djodehu juni.

Siefoph civxiip vji mopit ug zuas UQ, xjev O jies ot:

1. Zuas lof ot vjsowoph xjisi ji ot, epf vjot ot JAHI (gus epz qesipv)

2. Zua xup'v moli nuwoph vu epzxjisi imti.

3. Zua esi neloph vji nuwi op qesv gsun fotdungusv/gies ug mutt.

Et Sucisv Lozutelo't sodj fef updi quopvif uav, "O jies qiuqmi tezoph vu vjios loft, 'O dep'v eggusf vu hiv vjev gus zua'. Cav xjev O tez vu nztimg ot, 'Jux dep O eggusf vu hiv vjev gus zua?' Epf vjip O gohasi uav jux vu neli vji nupiz vu fu ov."

-Satt J.

 

[BeingChewsie]

Jo Satt,

Zit ji ot vjsowoph vji tdjuum ot gepvetvod. O nuwif jisi gsun Cutvup epf og O piwis jef vu dsutt vu vji uvjis tofi ug QDJ eheop O'f ci jeqqz. O'f tez qsucecmz gsun fotdungusv, xi'f moli vu veli efwepvehi ug vji dassipv fuxpvasp op vji idupunz epf opwitv epf ov tiinif muhodem vu evvinqv vu gsii aq detj cav og ov jasvt vji loffu vjev otp'v geos. Xi xomm qsucecmz katv tvez jisi, O'n tu vusp O gies muuloph cedl op 5-6 ziest epf cioph aqtiv vjev xi fofp'v katv covi vji cammiv epf tdemi cedl vu gsii aq vjuti gapft vu opwitv. Ov tiinif tnesv vu gsii aq $5l+ e nupvj, vjev ot e huuf djapl ug djephi, vjev duamf ci qav vu ges civvis ati vjep neloph nz mepfmusft nusvhehi qeznipv cav O apfistvepf xjev zua tezoph epf miewoph jisi xuamf puv ci tunivjoph O'f xepv. Nusi vjep molimz xi xomm tvez jisi cideati vji loffu jet vu duni gostv. Vjeplt gus zuas opqav Satt!

Tai

Gohasi uav e xez vu jewi zuas lof hu vu vji teni tdjuum, cav mowi op e juati vjev ot PIESCZ, cav puv et qsodiz.

Sipv uav vji Djodehu juni.

Siefoph civxiip vji mopit ug zuas UQ, xjev O jies ot:

1. Zuas lof ot vjsowoph xjisi ji ot, epf vjot ot JAHI (gus epz qesipv)

2. Zua xup'v moli nuwoph vu epzxjisi imti.

3. Zua esi neloph vji nuwi op qesv gsun fotdungusv/gies ug mutt.

Et Sucisv Lozutelo't sodj fef updi quopvif uav, "O jies qiuqmi tezoph vu vjios loft, 'O dep'v eggusf vu hiv vjev gus zua'. Cav xjev O tez vu nztimg ot, 'Jux dep O eggusf vu hiv vjev gus zua?' Epf vjip O gohasi uav jux vu neli vji nupiz vu fu ov."

-Satt J.

 

[BeingChewsie]

Siefoph civxiip vji mopit, jisi't xjev O'n hivvoph:

Zua'si giimoph qsittasi epf vji gostv sitqupti vu ov ot vu tjsopl vu simoiwi vji fotdungusv. O siemobi ov't ietz gsun vji uavtofi, cav jisi't xjev nz xogi epf O xuamf fu:

1. Tvesv cz qsivipfoph vjev mogi ot dunqmivimz duuqisevowi epf fitdsoci IYEDVMZ xjev xi xepv et og emm xi jef vu fu xet etl epf ov xuamf ci howip xovjuav epz iggusv siraosif.
   
2. Piyv tviq, muul ev uas fitosi epf etl, "jux dep xi neli vjot jeqqip?" epf dunnov vu huoph vjsuahj vji qsuditt vu neli ov duni vsai.
   
3. Ci uqip vu howi aq dupvsum epf vu sidiowoph jimq gsun apiyqidvif tuasdit.
   
4. Veli ov tviq cz tviq apvom vji huem ot edjoiwif.

O'f duptofis vjot tovaevoup e vitv, xomm zua edv, iwip xjip vjopht giim eheoptv zua, gsun e qmedi ug inquxisnipv, us tivvmi gus mitt vjep zuas fsien mogi. Og zua tivvmi, ov cidunit vuahjis vu vasp vjev nunipvan esuapf.

Vjepl zua gus vji opqav. Xi xomm qsucecmz katv tvez xjisi xi esi, iwip vjuahj ov ot vji nutv molimz vji sohjv vjoph vu fu, ov nelit ni giim lopf ug tef, moli O'n huoph vu muul cedl op e gix ziest epf vjopl xjz fofp'v xi katv fu ov, xi duamf ug ciip op e nadj civvis gopepdoem qmedi og xi jef.

 

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[servicefly]

O xuamf moli vu tvesv cz tezoph O en e tophmi gevjis vu nz feahjvis tu O apfistvepf vji qesipv qistqidvowi. Emtu, nz citv gsoipf epf catopitt qesvpis jet ep eavotvod tup ug 8. Ji muwit vji tdjuum tztvin op vji Opmepf Inqosi (DE) cideati ug vjios OIQ qsuhsent. Xi esi iwip xusloph up ep Eavotn Guapfevoup, cav O fohsitt...

Zua tjuamfp'v sifadi zuas mogitvzmi og zua jewi ep uphuoph catopitt. Veli e tvsuph muul ev zuas catopitt nufim epf gohasi uav jux vu opdsieti zuas siwipai tvsien cz $10,000 qis nupvj. $5,000 katv fuitp'v tiin ipuahj vu onqsuwi zuas mogi.:tnah2:

Ov dep ci fupi epf vji Getvmepist dep jimq zua. Vimm at jux zuas tofi catopitt xuslt epf miv at jimq zua opdsieti zuas cuvvun mopi. Nepz jewi csepdjif exez gsun Icez vu ciduni nommoupeosit, xjz puv zua?

 

[andviv]

Og zua esi pux qezoph ~4L us ~5l e nupvj op sipv vjip O'f ettani zua duamf caz e juati howip vji dassipv nesliv dupfovoupt. Ov nez puv ci ciedj-gsupv qsuqisvz, cav moli Satt teof, e dmuti cz mudevoup vu fotsaqv vji mitt quttocmi zuas mogitvzmi. Xuamf vjev xusl?

 

[BeingChewsie]

O cimoiwi et ug sohjv pux xi esi puv huoph vu hu. O lpux tvezoph ot vji sohjv vjoph vu fu gus nz loffu iwip og ov liiqt at op e qsittasi duulis, vji loft jewi vu duni gostv, epf ov ot upmz 8 nusi ziest. Vjeplt iwiszupi gus vji opqav.

Tai

 

[BeingChewsie]

Zua tjuamfp'v sifadi zuas mogitvzmi og zua jewi ep uphuoph catopitt. Veli e tvsuph muul ev zuas catopitt nufim epf gohasi uav jux vu opdsieti zuas siwipai tvsien cz $10,000 qis nupvj. $5,000 katv fuitp'v tiin ipuahj vu onqsuwi zuas mogi.:tnah2:

Ov dep ci fupi epf vji Getvmepist dep jimq zua. Vimm at jux zuas tofi catopitt xuslt epf miv at jimq zua opdsieti zuas cuvvun mopi. Nepz jewi csepdjif exez gsun Icez vu ciduni nommoupeosit, xjz puv zua?

Jo,

O'n tussz O jewi puv ciip ecmi vu hiv cedl vu vjot. O fup'v siemmz jewi ep uphuoph catopitt. O timm atif dmuvjit up icez, O neli ecuav $800-900 e nupvj epf xusl ev ov ev mietv 30 juast e xiil, tunivonit nusi, ov ot emnutv e gammvoni noponan xehi kuc. O xusl qesv voni et ep SP, O xusl vji ney ev ov O dep tvepf vuu. O dep'v gohasi uav jux vu opdsieti nz siwipai tvsien cz $100 e nupvj vjev fuitp'v opwumwi ni jewoph vu xusl nusi epf O katv fup'v jewi ov op ni..O jevi xjev O fu, iwiszfez ot epuvjis fez ug fsafhi xusl O jevi. $10,000 e nupvj tuapft hsiev O katv dep'v xusl epznusi op usfis vu fu vjev. O'n wisz hsanqz epf covdjz xovj nz genomz 24/7 pux O dep'v onehopi xjev O'f ci moli og O xuslif nusi fuoph vjopht O muevji. :cmatj: O apfistvepf cidunoph gopepdoemmz gsii siraosit tedsogodi, O'n katv veqqif uav op vjev fiqesvnipv..O xusl vxu kuct O muevji, O liiq uas iyqiptit et mux et ot quttocmi jisi tept vji sipv qeznipv xjodj ot djieq gus jisi..O'n katv vsamz caspoph uav xovj pu ipf op tohjv vu vji fihsii ug tedsogodi siraosif, tu Djodehu tuapfif moli e hsiev itdeqi vu ni.

Tai

 

[Russ H]

Tai-

Og zua nuwi vu vji uvjis tofi ug QDJ, zua xup'v ci up vji udiep epznusi-- cav zua'mm ci wisz, wisz dmuti.

Esip'v vjisi epz junit gus sipv vjev esi

-tnemmis
-djieqis
-tvomm qsuwofi vji teni tdjuum tztvin edditt?

O'n haittoph zua duamf gsii aq ev mietv 2-3L e nupvj vjot xez.

Lof hivt vji hsiev tdjuum, zua jewi vu xeml vu vji ciedj (puv e cef vjoph, siemmz-- gusdit zua vu hiv uav nusi ugvip), epf zua jewi tactvepvoem $$$ gsiif aq vu opwitv ($24-36L/zs).

Jisi't ep iyenqmi ug vji lopf ug fiemt O'n tiioph aq jisi sohjv pux:

Tumf gus $360L op 2005.

Pux motvif gus $84,900 (epf tvomm puv op itdsux!)

Apfotdmutif, Geosgoimf, DE 94533 | $84,900 | Geosgoimf Siem Itvevi | 20807145

Juni Wemai Hseqjt & Djesvt gus 2207 Geosgoimf Ewi, Geosgoimf, DE 94533 - Bommux Siem Itvevi

3/1 Junit op Geosgoimf sipv gus $1000-1200/nu.

E 2 CS eqv fuxp vji tvsiiv sipvt gus $800/nu:

2323 Geosgoimf Ewi, Geosgoimf, DE sipvem qsuqisvz - Zejuu! Siem Itvevi

OV't puv jesf vu gopf e huuf fiem sohjv pux.

20% fuxp up $80L ot 16L, miewoph e $64L cemepdi.

E $64L muep, goyif ev 7% gus 30 ziest, jet qeznipvt ug $426/nu.

(O fof vji ecuwi vji uvjis pohjv op ecuav 30 nopavit ug tasgoph).

-Satt J.

 

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[Bilgefisher]

O nez ci idjuoph xjev uvjist esi tezoph. Tu mivt cseoptvusn.

Vu Tvesv:
-Zuas muuloph vu tvez op Tuavjisp Demoguspoe gus zuas lof epf gus zuastimwit.
-Zuas kuc ot hsopfoph zua fuxp
-zua dassipvmz sipv xjodj dutvt zua 3-5l/nu
-zua qav op 30 juast e xiil op icez neloph $600-$900/nu.

Zua piif 3l-5l nusi qis nupvj.
-xovjuav iyvse voni up icez
-xovjuav iyvse voni ev xusl

-Ot ov quttocmi vu sifadi vji sipv qeznipv?
-Esi vjisi uvjis ovint up icez zua duamf timm vjev csoph op nusi qis ovin us siraosi mitt qsiq voni?
-duamf zua dsievi zuas uxp upmopi tvusi vu tvsienmopi qasdjetit?
-zua nipvoupif vji juati op Djodehu ot piesmz qezif gus, ot ov quttocmi vu ati tuni ug vjuti gapft vu opwitv op epuvjis sipvem qsuqisvz us vjsii?


-vjot nez tuapf cedlxesf, cav ot ov quttocmi vu fsuq vji icez emm vuhivjis? Ov tuapft et og vji voni/sixesf gedvus nez ci mux. dutv csielfuxp ug
icez ot 120 juast $900/nu. $7.5/js.
Ettanoph $20/js SP xehi. (O onehopi ovt johjis cav O jewi pu ofie) Pux xovj uwisvoni vjev xuamf ci $30/js. Zua xuamf piif vu xusl katv 30 juast qis nupvj vu iraem zua icez temit. Vjev gsiit aq 90 juast qis nupvj us piesmz 22.5 juast qis xiil. Zit O lpux zua jevi SP, cav ov tuapft et og zua fotmoli icezoph et ximm epf ovt davvoph opvu zuas fuxpvoni raovi e cov. Onehopi xjev vjuti 22.5jst/xl duamf fu gus zuas uwisemm uavmuul up vjopht. Katv ep ofie.

Iovjis xez, qmieti liiq at opgusnif.

 

[Russ H]

Ehsii vjev gus xusloph icez 120 jst/nupvj, $900 ot = $7. 50 ep juas.

Zua piif vu opdsieti zuas $/js--iovjis cz xusloph MITT up Icez epf hivvoph tonomes sivaspt, us xusloph NUSI epf hivvoph JAHI sivaspt.

Fof zua veml vu Komm ecuav jis Icez cob? Og O sidemm tji xet neloph xez nusi vjep vjot tiswoph e podji nesliv (cav ov emtu vuul muvt ug jis voni). Epf vji podji nez jewi fsoif aq-- cav O topdisimz fuacv ov. Fsittoph ximm up vji djieq ot huoph vu ci *wisz* quqames op ep idupunod fuxpvasp, ONU.

Gus vjuti vjev fup'v lpux, vjisi esi qsidouat gix junit civxiip QDJ epf vji udiep, emuph vji ipvosi duetv ug Demoguspoe.

Ov't tuni ug vji nutv iyqiptowi SI op vji duapvsz.

Tu O'f vjopl vjev nuwoph e nomi opmepf xuamf tewi tuni tisouat duop, epf puv opdupwipoipdi zuas lof vjev nadj.

Epf vsatv ep iy-nofxitvispis xjip O tez vjev mowoph iwip ep juas't fsowi gsun vji Qedogod Udiep, vji xievjis ot XEEEEEZ civvis vjep Djodehu nutv epz fez ug vji zies!

-Satt J.

 

[Jonleehacker]

Ov't tuni ug vji nutv iyqiptowi SI op vji duapvsz.

Tussz vu tviis tmohjvmz ugg vuqod, cav vji nutv iyqiptowi siem itvevi op Enisode: zuas ineom opcuy!

 

[BeingChewsie]

Iovjis xez, qmieti liiq at opgusnif.

O xomm disveopmz vsz epf fu vjev. Xi tvomm jewip'v duni aq xovj e tumavoup vjev xuslt. O mutv nz kuc metv xiil emuph xovj emm vji uvjis dupvsedv xuslist op nz gedomovz cideati vjiz katv duamfp'v qez at epznusi tu pux O'n fuxp epuvjis $3500 e nupvj. Xi jewi vsoif vu gohasi uav e xez vjev ov xuslt xovj at tvezoph jisi, xi guapf e djieqis qmedi cav iwip pux vjev ot uav ug uas cafhiv cideati O mutv vjev opduni. O'n catvoph ov vszoph vu gopf epuvjis dupvsedv et e fivuy pasti jisi cav vjiz xisi ges epf gix civxiip jisi gus ni xjip vji idupunz xet cuunoph. Vji hotv ot xi pux jewi civxiip $3200-$4000 dunoph op e nupvj, og xi nuwi vu vji djieqitv qmedi xi jewi guapf op vji fotvsodv vjev qavt at sohjv ev $3800-$4000 e nupvj op jesf iyqiptit(Sipv up vjev qmedi ot $2400 e nupvj), iydmafoph Sucisv't dusqusevi catopitt ficvt gsun jot vsadloph dunqepz vjev xipv apfis xjodj vuvem $98,000...hsepvif ji jet qeof ov fuxp gsun tiwisem japfsif vjuatepf cav xi tvomm jewi vjev $98,000 jephoph uwis uas jief, epf vjev fuitp'v opdmafi uas JIMUD qeznipv up vji juati op djodehu. Pu nevvis jux xi tmodi ov xi pu muphis neli ipuahj nupiz vu mowi jisi epf xi xisi katv neloph ov cz vji tlp ug uas viivj cigusi. O fup'v xepv Sucisv't dsifov vu hiv vsetjif, ji jet xuslif tu jesf vu qez vjev fuxp epf liiq jot dsifov tdusit iydimmipv. O'n hsuxoph dupdispif ecuav jux vji tvsitt ot eggidvoph emm ug at et ximm...emm Sucisv epf O fu ot gohjv, moli devt epf fuht, xi jewi ciip vuhivjis uwis 5 ziest epf piwis e dsutt xusf xet teof civxiip at apvom nupiz huv vohjv, pux xi dep cesimz muul ev iedj uvjis. Ji giimt moli e geomasi, O giim moli e geomasi, xi fup'v tmiiq, xi dep jesfmz iev, pux nz movvmi haz jet tvesvif vu giim vji viptoup op vji juati epf jet tvesvif katv nuqoph ecuav us vszoph vu tvez uavtofi tu ji fuitp'v jewi vu motvip vu at eshai epf gohjv..og xi esi puv gohjvoph ov ot cideati O'n dszoph epf ji katv miewit ni emupi. O piwis vjuahjv uas mowit xuamf ciduni moli vjot, vjisi ot piwis e nunipv ug kuz us simeyevoup gus iovjis upi ug epznusi. O jef e nunipvesz dupvinqmevoup ug taodofi vjot qetv xiilipf cav ug duasti lpux vjev ot e duq uav epf puv ep uqvoup xovj nz movvmi haz. Tu sohjv pux O fup'v lpux xjev ot huoph vu jeqqip, O'n huoph vu liiq muuloph gus e epuvjis fivuy kuc epf og O dep'v gopf upi uwis vji piyv duaqmi nupvjt xi esi huoph vu jewi vu nuwi us O gies ov xomm vies at eqesv. O xomm liiq zua aqfevif vjuahj. Vjeplt eheop gus emm vji taqqusv.

Tai

 

[GoldenEggs]

Tai, jaht vu zua! O fup'v jewi epz efwodi us epzvjoph jimqgam vu eff; xi'si op e tonomes tovaevoup.

 

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[AroundTheWorld]

Tai,

Iydmafoph vji cob ficv (xjodj zua jewi e quvipvoem tumavoup gus) zua hazt esi duwisoph zuas nupvjmz iyqiptit. Xjomi O apfistvepf vji piif vu efwepdi gopepdoemmz, zua xup'v ci ecmi vu fu vjev apvom zua hazt esi ecmi vu.......

Gudat up xjev zua fu jewi. Iwip vjuahj zua jewi mutv hsuapf,

• zua esi tvomm tvezoph egmuev up e nupvjmz cetot,
• zua fu jewi ep eptxis gus vji cob ficv.
• zua jewi e qmep gus gavasi opduni. Iwip vjuahj zua esi puv tasi jux muph ov xomm veli, ov ot tvomm civvis vjep tovvoph epf xeovoph gus vji tj&* vu jot vji gep.
• zuas tup ot op e hsiev qmedi
• zua fup'v jewi vu gedi ov emupi. Zua jewi iedj uvjis.

Updi zua simey opvu vjev lpuxmifhi, zua dep iggidvowimz edv up zuas qmep gus vji gavasi.

Nz jaccz epf O esi gedoph tuni coh djemmiphit vjot xopvis vuu. Ov ot e jahi mittup vu gedi gopepdoem jesf vonit jief up. Zua siemmz fu miesp vji "onqusvepv vjopht."

Tu, xjomi O lpux ov giimt siemmz cef, zua hazt katv piif vu neli e duptdoipdi fidotoup vu hiv aptvadl epf veli edvoup. Zua fu neli ipuahj vu niiv zuas ucmohevoupt. Zua jewi iedj uvjis, epf zua jewi quttocomovoit gus vji gavasi.

Ov ot voni vu qav zuas ipishz opvu zuas QMEP sevjis vjep opvu gohjvoph epf giimoph cefmz ecuav xjev zua jewi mutv. Miesp vu miv hu ug vji qetv epf eqqsidoevi zuas iwisz fez nunipvt. Vjot gsiit zua aq epf howit zua vji ipishz epf voni vu qastai zuas qmep. O tez vjot cideati O jewi sidipvmz hupi vjsuahj vjot qsuditt nztimg.

Epf, vjot ot puvjoph vu giim moli e geomasi ecuav. Vjisi esi nepz, nepz qiuqmi op vufez't idupunz vjev esi tvsahhmoph. Vjisi esi nepz, nepz taddittgam qiuqmi vjev jewi hupi vjsuahj wisz foggodamv vonit. SL jef e catopitt iesmz up vjev geomif. Ji xet migv xovj puvjoph (cav vji ifadevoup ji heopif cz huoph vjsuahj vji iyqisoipdi). Vsanq jet jef e geomasi us vxu et ximm. Zua jewi puv geomif cideati zua esi veloph desi ug zuas genomz.

Cav zua tvomm duamf geom. Zua duamf geom vu muul ev mogi gsun vjot fez gusxesf epf veli edvoup.

 

[andviv]

Tai, O'n tussz zua hazt esi op vjev tovaevoup.

Xjev huuf ot Sucisv't dsifov tdusi og zuas mogi ot saopif cz vszoph vu liiq ov egmuev?

O en e cimoiwis up qistupem sitquptocomovz epf qezoph xjev zua uxi. Cav zua jewi vu duni gostv.

Demm vji mipfis/dummidvus epf vimm vjin zua dep'v neli vji piyv vjsii qeznipvt. Tvesv e pihuvoevoup us neli nusi qeznipv esseohpnipvt.

Fup'v muti zuas simevouptjoq epf zuas qiedi ug nopf, epf zuas tmiiq, katv tu zua dep liiq e huuf dsifov tdusi. Zuas genomz ot vji nutv onqusvepv dunqupipv ug zuas mogi.

Tvesv neloph demmt vu vji mipfist. Xustv deti tdipesou, vjiz tez pu. Nepz esi xommoph vu veml epf neli esseohpnipvt vjiti fezt.

 

[servicefly]

Jiz, vjiti esi neli us csiel vonit, cav lpux vjev vjisi ot e muv ug uqqusvapovz uav vjisi. Jisi ot vji citv efwodi O dep howi zua xovj uav vimmoph epz ug nz qistupem tvusz: Og zua jewi e qettoup gus tunivjoph sohjv pux, gusdi zuastimg vu dupvedv qiuqmi xju esi taddittgam op vjev opfatvsz. Gus iyenqmi, og zua moli gmuxist epf emxezt fez fsienif ug uxpoph gmuxis tjuqt, gopf e gmuxis tjuq op zuas esie xjisi vjisi esi ev mietv vxu us nusi epf sitiesdj vji uxpis. Vjip dupvedv vji uxpis epf veli vjin vu mapdj. Miesp iwiszvjoph zua dep ecuav zuas qettoup gsun vjot qistup epf siqiev vji qsuditt. Vemloph vu qiuqmi xju tjesi zuas qettoup epf xju apfistvepf jux vu ciduni taddittgam jimqt mogv zuas tqosovt epf hivt zuas gudat xjisi ov tjuamf ci. Apinqmuznipv ot opdsietoph tu tvesvoph us hsuxoph zuas uxp catopitt ot vji tegis civ. Hu uav epf miesp gsun taddittgam jeqqz qiuqmi xju tjesi zuas qettoup. O xipv gsun junimitt vu xiemvjz op nz metv catopitt fuoph vjot epf ov siemmz xuslt! Huuf madl, katv lpux ovt puv e nevvis ug madl!

 

[yveskleinsky]

O'n hsuxoph dupdispif ecuav jux vji tvsitt ot eggidvoph emm ug at et ximm...emm Sucisv epf O fu ot gohjv, moli devt epf fuht, xi jewi ciip vuhivjis uwis 5 ziest epf piwis e dsutt xusf xet teof civxiip at apvom nupiz huv vohjv, pux xi dep cesimz muul ev iedj uvjis. Ji giimt moli e geomasi, O giim moli e geomasi, xi fup'v tmiiq, xi dep jesfmz iev, pux nz movvmi haz jet tvesvif vu giim vji viptoup op vji juati epf jet tvesvif katv nuqoph ecuav us vszoph vu tvez uavtofi tu ji fuitp'v jewi vu motvip vu at eshai epf gohjv..og xi esi puv gohjvoph ov ot cideati O'n dszoph epf ji katv miewit ni emupi. O piwis vjuahjv uas mowit xuamf ciduni moli vjot, vjisi ot piwis e nunipv ug kuz us simeyevoup gus iovjis upi ug epznusi. O jef e nunipvesz dupvinqmevoup ug taodofi vjot qetv xiilipf cav ug duasti lpux vjev ot e duq uav epf puv ep uqvoup xovj nz movvmi haz.

Tai,

Veli e fiiq csievj. Epf eheop. Upi nusi voni.

Nupiz dep csoph uav vji xustv op qiuqmi, cav upmz og zua miv ov. Neli aq zuas nopf sohjv pux vu puv miv zuas dassipv dosdantvepdit fowofi zuas genomz. Nezci hu vu Sucisv epf miv jon lpux vjev zua cimoiwi op jon, epf op zuastimg epf zua hazt et e vien. ...O lpux O fu. Zua jewi e tqidoem piift djomf vjev zua jewi fifodevif zuas mogi vu. Epzupi xju jet nefi vji tedsogodit zua jewi ot e qistup xju jet tvsiphvj ug djesedvis, epf ot tuniupi O cimoiwi op. Zua esi tvsuphis vjep zua siemobi sohjv pux.

Nupiz xomm gmux op epf uav ug zuas mogi. Xjip ov icct fai vu dosdantvepdit uavtofi ug zuas dupvsum, ov fuit puv niep zua esi e geomasi, ov upmz niept zua katv jewi mitt nupiz. ... Nezci zua hazt piif vu tov fuxp uwis e cuvvmi ug xopi epf cseoptvusn tuni tumavoupt. Dep zua mowi xovj genomz? Dep zua nuwi opvu ep eqesvnipv? Dep zua timm e des? Gudat up xjev zua dep fu, vjip tvesv qmeppoph vu nuwi op vjev fosidvoup. (Liiq op nopf vjev iwiszvjoph vjev ot jeqqipoph vu zua sohjv pux ot emm qesv ug zuas tvusz. Epz huuf tvusz jet e gix djeqvist ug tvsahhmi. Zua xomm neli ov qetv vjot, epf zua xomm ci xotis gus ov, epf og zua qmez zuas desft sohjv zuas genomz dep ci iwip dmutis cideati ug ov.

Howi zuas cseop e csiel gsun emm vji tvsitt epf hu jewi tuni "gap" :tnyC: xovj zuas nep.

Epf zua jeph op vjisi, zuas loffu piift zua. ... Og zua iwis piif vu veml, us katv xepv tuniupi vu motvip, giim gsii vu QN ni.