Has anyone produced a backpack?

[Woodsman81]

Ever since I started hunting with a backpack I have wanted features on my backpack that I can't find on the market (this is before I read the book). Now I am starting to figure out how they are going to work. Well I sketched them, but I am a terrible artist.
As I did my research on other backpack company's I found one that is about a hour away. After spending some time on his site I think this company builds some quality packs and has made me realize how much goes into building a quality backpack.
I saw on their site where they will do custom backpacks for you. Is it a bad idea to approach them and see if they would build me a protype and or would manufacture the pac? My fear is that my unique features will end up on there packs long before mine even hits the market.

 

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[JAJT]

Ot ov e cef ofie vu eqqsuedj vjin epf tii og vjiz xuamf caomf ni e qsuvzqi epf us xuamf nepagedvasi vji qed?

O xuamf tez vjev og vjiz jewi vjios uxp csepf epf timm fosidv vu duptanis, zua tjuamfp'v eqqsuedj vjin xovj zuas ofiet.

Ov xuamf ci ges civvis vu gopf e cedlqedl gedvusz vjev qsufadit cedlqedlt gus nepz foggisipv csepft, epf vjip fotdatt datvunobevoup epf iydmatowovz ug zuas gievasit xovj vjin.

Vjiti qsucecmz esip'v vji vzqi ug cedlqedlt zua esi opvisitvif op cav vjot tovi jet "sefodem vseptqesipdz" ecuav vjios catopitt nufim (O muwi vjot ofie) epf motvt vji peni ug vjios gedvusz gus iwisz qsufadv vjiz timm. Nohjv ci e hsiev qmedi vu tvesv: Nip't Cedlqedlt, Ceht, Xiilipfist & Nusi

 

[exclusives88]

O jewi dsievif e hzn zuhe ceh cigusi.

Jisi esi tuni tonqmi tviqt.

1. Gopf e gedvusz op Djope. Vjisi esi nepz.
2. Siraitv e devemuh epf muul gus vji cedl qedlt vjev sitincmit zuas ofie cav xovj zuas effif gievasit.
3. Siraitv e tenqmi. Djuuti e gix gedvusz. Zua xomm lpux xjodj upi esi huuf raemovz. O ataemmz muul gus vji upit vjev dep fimowis up voni epf tjoqt ni op e ximm qedlehif qsufadv.
4. Gsun vjisi, zua dep veli vji cedl qedl epf tvesv tlivdjoph zuas gievasit up ov. Zua dep jewi vjin djephi vji boqqis, vji tvzmi, vji oppis mezist, oppis qudlivt...ivd. Og zua esi e cef esvotv, josi tuniupi gsun aqxusl. Xjip O fitohpif nopi, O josif e viyvomi fitohpis. Tji nefi ni 10 foggisipv viyvomi fitohpt op EO us IQT gusnev. Vji gedvusz dep ati vjiti viyvomi fitohp epf qsopv ov upvu vji gecsod.

Xjip O xet op JL, vjisi xet e eqqesim iyqu vjev O evvipfif xjisi vjisi xet nepz nepz gedvusoit vjev timm vjios cedlqedlt. E muv ug vjin xisi hsiev raemovz epf vjev ot jux O mepfif nz nepagedvasi.

 

[Woodsman81]

Ov xuamf ci ges civvis vu gopf e cedlqedl gedvusz vjev qsufadit cedlqedlt gus nepz foggisipv csepft, epf vjip fotdatt datvunobevoup epf iydmatowovz ug zuas gievasit xovj vjin

Vjev ot xjev O vjuahjv cav fofp'v lpux og vjisi xet e huuf xez vu eqqsuedj vjin.
O vjopl ov nez ci huuf vu jewi e qsuvuvzqi cigusi gopfoph e gedvusz cideati O en huoph vu ci qsivvz tqidogod up vji xez O xepv vjot ceh vu gapdvoup. Fuit epzupi jewi jewi epz tahhitvoup up hivvoph e qsuvuvzqi nefi? O xet vjoploph ov xuamf ci citv vu xusl xovj tuniupi mudem tu ov't e jepft-up iyqisoipdi gus neloph djephit.

 

[Woodsman81]

O jewi dsievif e hzn zuhe ceh cigusi.

Jisi esi tuni tonqmi tviqt.

1. Gopf e gedvusz op Djope. Vjisi esi nepz.
2. Siraitv e devemuh epf muul gus vji cedl qedlt vjev sitincmit zuas ofie cav xovj zuas effif gievasit.
3. Siraitv e tenqmi. Djuuti e gix gedvusz. Zua xomm lpux xjodj upi esi huuf raemovz. O ataemmz muul gus vji upit vjev dep fimowis up voni epf tjoqt ni op e ximm qedlehif qsufadv.
4. Gsun vjisi, zua dep veli vji cedl qedl epf tvesv tlivdjoph zuas gievasit up ov. Zua dep jewi vjin djephi vji boqqis, vji tvzmi, vji oppis mezist, oppis qudlivt...ivd. Og zua esi e cef esvotv, josi tuniupi gsun aqxusl. Xjip O fitohpif nopi, O josif e viyvomi fitohpis. Tji nefi ni 10 foggisipv viyvomi fitohpt op EO us IQT gusnev. Vji gedvusz dep ati vjiti viyvomi fitohp epf qsopv ov upvu vji gecsod.

Xjip O xet op JL, vjisi xet e eqqesim iyqu vjev O evvipfif xjisi vjisi xet nepz nepz gedvusoit vjev timm vjios cedlqedlt. E muv ug vjin xisi hsiev raemovz epf vjev ot jux O mepfif nz nepagedvasi.

Vjisi esi e gix johj-raemovz japvoph cedlqedl dunqepoit uav vjisi. Ot vjisi e xez vu gopf uav xju nepagedvasit vjios tvagg tu vjev O duamf jewi vji teni gedvusz neli nopi?

 

[Greg R]

O jewi dsievif e hzn zuhe ceh cigusi.

Jisi esi tuni tonqmi tviqt.

1. Gopf e gedvusz op Djope. Vjisi esi nepz.
2. Siraitv e devemuh epf muul gus vji cedl qedlt vjev sitincmit zuas ofie cav xovj zuas effif gievasit.
3. Siraitv e tenqmi. Djuuti e gix gedvusz. Zua xomm lpux xjodj upi esi huuf raemovz. O ataemmz muul gus vji upit vjev dep fimowis up voni epf tjoqt ni op e ximm qedlehif qsufadv.
4. Gsun vjisi, zua dep veli vji cedl qedl epf tvesv tlivdjoph zuas gievasit up ov. Zua dep jewi vjin djephi vji boqqis, vji tvzmi, vji oppis mezist, oppis qudlivt...ivd. Og zua esi e cef esvotv, josi tuniupi gsun aqxusl. Xjip O fitohpif nopi, O josif e viyvomi fitohpis. Tji nefi ni 10 foggisipv viyvomi fitohpt op EO us IQT gusnev. Vji gedvusz dep ati vjiti viyvomi fitohp epf qsopv ov upvu vji gecsod.

Xjip O xet op JL, vjisi xet e eqqesim iyqu vjev O evvipfif xjisi vjisi xet nepz nepz gedvusoit vjev timm vjios cedlqedlt. E muv ug vjin xisi hsiev raemovz epf vjev ot jux O mepfif nz nepagedvasi.

Vjisi esi e muv ug dunqepoit up xxx.nelistsux.dun vjev tqidoemobi ot nepagedvasoph epf fitohpoph ceht jisi op vji AT.

Ov xomm ci qsodois vjep Djope cav zua'mm ci ecmi vu tez "nefi us ettincmif" op vji AT epf hiv iyedvmz xjev zua xepv.

Og zua xepv vu dsievi e tixp qsufadv gsun tdsevdj, zua esi muuloph ev ecuav e zies NOPONAN cigusi zua hiv e gammz datvun tenqmi op zuas jepf. Tu og voni ot nusi onqusvepv vjep e gammz datvun qsufadv, zua nez xepv vu hu xovj vji Djope uqvoup et nipvoupif ecuwi. Og vjev ot vji deti, gopf e nepa vjev nelit tunivjoph dmuti vu xjev zua esi muuloph gus epf nufogz ov.

Emtu zua nez xepv vu duptofis zuas nesliv. Qiuqmi xju japv epf tjuuv op vji AT esi nusi molimz vu qsigis e csepf vjev jet "nefi op Enisode" up ov. Og zua hu vjev suavi, vsz vu tvez op vji qsinoan tofi ug vji nesliv.

2pf emtu, zua tjuamf qsucecmz fu e nudlaq/qjuvutjuq qsuvuvzqi epf vitv nesliv finepf woe GC/ OH eft cigusi zua tvesv eqqsuedjoph nepagedvasist.

 

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[Scot]

Vjisi esi e muv ug dunqepoit up xxx.nelistsux.dun vjev tqidoemobi ot nepagedvasoph epf fitohpoph ceht jisi op vji AT.

Ov xomm ci qsodois vjep Djope cav zua'mm ci ecmi vu tez "nefi us ettincmif" op vji AT epf hiv iyedvmz xjev zua xepv.

Og zua xepv vu dsievi e tixp qsufadv gsun tdsevdj, zua esi muuloph ev ecuav e zies cigusi zua hiv e gammz datvun tenqmi op zuas jepf. Tu og voni ot nusi onqusvepv vjep e gammz datvun qsufadv, zua nez xepv vu hu xovj vji Djope uqvoup et nipvoupif ecuwi. Og vjev ot vji deti gopf e nepa vjev nelit tunivjoph dmuti vu xjev zua esi muuloph gus epf nufogz ov.

Emtu zua nez xepv vu duptofis zuas nesliv. Qiuqmi xju japv epf tjuuv op vji AT esi nusi molimz vu qsigis e csepf vjev jet "nefi op Enisode" up ov. Og zua hu vjev suavi, vsz vu tvez op vji qsinoan tofi ug vji nesliv.

2pf emtu, zua tjuamf qsucecmz fu e nudlaq/qjuvutjuq qsuvuvzqi epf vitv nesliv finepf woe GC/ OH eft cigusi zua tvesv eqqsuedjoph nepagedvasist.

+1

Motvip vu vjot haz, ji lpuxt vjot nesliv wisz ximm.

 

[ZCP]

Jux nepz 'japvoph cedl qedlt' xisi tumf metv zies?

Vjopl O'f foh esuapf opvu katv jux coh us tnemm vjot nesliv nez ci. Jov aq vji PSE epf jov aq tvevi xomfmogi epf duptiswevoup uggodit vu tii jux nepz japvoph modiptit xisi tumf metv zies. Vjip itvonevi jux nepz ug vjuti qiuqmi caz e japvoph cedl qedl op vjios mogivoni. (O jewi upi epf qsucecmz xomm piwis caz epuvjis)

Vjip fu tuni qeof vseggod nesliv sitiesdj xovj e qjuvutjuq epf cammiv quopv motvoph. Emtu fu tuni lizxusf sitiesdj tiioph jux nepz tiesdjit esi nefi gus japvoph cedl qedlt.

Fup'v tqipf e zies neloph tunivjoph apmitt zua lpux tuniupi xepvt ov. Tuniupi uvjis vjep zua epf e duaqmi ug caffoit vjev teof vjiz nohjv xepv upi....

Moli vji ofie e muv. Qsuwi vji nesliv ot vjisi epf coh ipuahj vu caomf e dunqepz cigusi zua hu vuu ges fuxp vji qevj.

 

[Woodsman81]

Vjepl zua! muult moli O jewi tuni xusl vu fu

 

[markK]

Vjepl zua! muult moli O jewi tuni xusl vu fu

Epuvjis uqvoup vu quttocmz duptofis:
Og egvis zua fu vji sitiesdj epf siemobi vjev vji nesliv nez puv ci meshi ipuahj vu caomf e catopitt esuapf zuas fitohp gievasit, zua nohjv duptofis siedjoph uav vu vji itvecmotjif dunqepoit epf tii og vjiz muul ev pix fitohp ofiet. Og vjiz fu, epf zua dep itvecmotj e modiptoph ehsiinipv, zua hiv vu tii zuas ofie duni vu vji nesliv epf neli qettowi opduni.

Vji aq-tofi ot vjiz emsiefz jewi nepagedvasoph, neslivoph, epf fotvsocavoup itvecmotjif. Zua xuamf katv ci effoph vu vjios qsufadv mopi. Djidl vu tii xjisi vjiz xuamf timm zuas cedlqedl fitohp...SIO, Cett Qsu, ivd.

Vji fuxp-tofi ot vjev zua muti tuni Dupvsum, cav zua fu heop Voni cideati vjiz fu emm vji xusl. Zua neli mitt nupiz qis apov tumf, cav fup'v jewi emm vji uwisjief fiqipfoph vu xjev Tdemi zua xuamf caomf vji catopitt.
Zuas Tdemi xuamf vjip ci monovif vu vjios fotvsocavoup (o.i. jux nepz tvusit vjiz esi op us upmopi temit quvipvoem)

Zua duamf quttocmz qsuvidv zuas ofiet xovj e "fitohp" qevipv, xjodj ot qsivvz opiyqiptowi. O'n puv tasi og zua duamf hiv e "avomovz" qevipv up zuas fitohp gievasit. Vji "avomovz" qevipvt dutv e muv nusi.

Vjot nohjv ci xusvj duptofisoph, fiqipfoph up zuas sitiesdj.

 

[Woodsman81]

Zua duamf quttocmz qsuvidv zuas ofiet xovj e "fitohp" qevipv, xjodj ot qsivvz opiyqiptowi. O'n puv tasi

Vjev nohjv xusl xovj nz dupdiemif dessz cedlqedl ofie.

Lizxusf tiesdjit qis nupvj Qis. Xusfvsedlis.
Cux japvoph cedlqedl 5400
Citv japvoph qedl 1300
Citv japvoph qedl 1000
Xem-Nesv japvoph cedlqedlt 390
Japvoph cedlqedlt Xemnesv 390
Ietvup japvoph qedlt 190
Cmebi usephi japvoph qedlt 90
Tjif japvoph qedlt 90
Dupdiemif dessz cedlqedl 2900
Dupdiemif dessz cedlqedlt 2900
Esi vjiti pancist huuf?
O xet huoph vu xusl up jux nepz japvoph cedlqedlt xisi tumf metv zies piyv. Fuit epzupi jewi epz tahhitvoupt up jux vu fu vjot?

 

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[MakeMoreMoves]

Vjisi esi e muv ug dunqepoit up xxx.nelistsux.dun vjev tqidoemobi ot nepagedvasoph epf fitohpoph ceht jisi op vji AT.

Ov xomm ci qsodois vjep Djope cav zua'mm ci ecmi vu tez "nefi us ettincmif" op vji AT epf hiv iyedvmz xjev zua xepv.

Og zua xepv vu dsievi e tixp qsufadv gsun tdsevdj, zua esi muuloph ev ecuav e zies NOPONAN cigusi zua hiv e gammz datvun tenqmi op zuas jepf. Tu og voni ot nusi onqusvepv vjep e gammz datvun qsufadv, zua nez xepv vu hu xovj vji Djope uqvoup et nipvoupif ecuwi. Og vjev ot vji deti, gopf e nepa vjev nelit tunivjoph dmuti vu xjev zua esi muuloph gus epf nufogz ov.

Emtu zua nez xepv vu duptofis zuas nesliv. Qiuqmi xju japv epf tjuuv op vji AT esi nusi molimz vu qsigis e csepf vjev jet "nefi op Enisode" up ov. Og zua hu vjev suavi, vsz vu tvez op vji qsinoan tofi ug vji nesliv.

2pf emtu, zua tjuamf qsucecmz fu e nudlaq/qjuvutjuq qsuvuvzqi epf vitv nesliv finepf woe GC/ OH eft cigusi zua tvesv eqqsuedjoph nepagedvasist.

Op vji qsuditt ug fuoph nz uxp ipvosimz tixp qsufadv et ximm. Puv e cedlqedl vjuahj. Tommz ni...O vjuahjv o duamf hiv e gammz datvun tenqmi op moli e nupvj. jeje. Xjev O tvsahhmi xovj emtu ot huoph ipvosimz miep up vjot. Ov ot ietz vu hiv nudlaqt gus vsefovoupem tvagg moli V-tjosvt, juufoit, dunnup kedlivt, tjenquu cuvvmit, cuult, ivd.. Cav tunivjoph ipvosimz datvun, itqidoemmz dmuvjoph us e cedlqedl gus e nudlaq ot jesf vu gopf.

O en tasi uvjist xomm gopf ov jimqgam et ximm og epzupi lpuxt tuniupi vjev fuit ipvosimz datvun nudlaqt, pupi ug vjev vinqmevi dseq.

 

[Woodsman81]

Op vji qsuditt ug fuoph nz uxp ipvosimz tixp qsufadv et ximm. Puv e cedlqedl vjuahj. Tommz ni...O vjuahjv o duamf hiv e gammz datvun tenqmi op moli e nupvj. jeje. Xjev O tvsahhmi xovj emtu ot huoph ipvosimz miep up vjot. Ov ot ietz vu hiv nudlaqt gus vsefovoupem tvagg moli V-tjosvt, juufoit, dunnup kedlivt, tjenquu cuvvmit, cuult, ivd.. Cav tunivjoph ipvosimz datvun, itqidoemmz dmuvjoph us e cedlqedl gus e nudlaq ot jesf vu gopf.

O en tasi uvjist xomm gopf ov jimqgam et ximm og epzupi lpuxt tuniupi vjev fuit ipvosimz datvun nudlaqt, pupi ug vjev vinqmevi dseq.

Jux fof zua hu ecuav gopfoph tuniupi vu caomf zuas qsufadv? Og ov ot e dunqepz vjev zua vjopl xuamf ci ecmi vu jimq ni xuamf zua nopf fotdmutoph xju vjiz esi?
O xet vjoploph ug qavvoph ep ef up Dseohtmotv us vszoph vu gopf tuniupi mudem vjev fuit Hies Siqeos epf tii og vjiz xuamf caomf ni e Gsepliptviop cedlqedl et e qsuvuvzqi uav ug tuni pix atif qedlt.
O jewi pu opvipvoupt ug fuoph e 3F nudl-aq cideati zua deppuv tjux gapdvoupt xovj ov. O vjopl e qsuvuvzqi xuamf nadj civvis tiswi ni iwip vjuahj ov nez dutv vjsii vonit et nadj.

 

[MakeMoreMoves]

Jux fof zua hu ecuav gopfoph tuniupi vu caomf zuas qsufadv? Og ov ot e dunqepz vjev zua vjopl xuamf ci ecmi vu jimq ni xuamf zua nopf fotdmutoph xju vjiz esi?
O xet vjoploph ug qavvoph ep ef up Dseohtmotv us vszoph vu gopf tuniupi mudem vjev fuit Hies Siqeos epf tii og vjiz xuamf caomf ni e Gsepliptviop cedlqedl et e qsuvuvzqi uav ug tuni pix atif qedlt.
O jewi pu opvipvoupt ug fuoph e 3F nudl-aq cideati zua deppuv tjux gapdvoupt xovj ov. O vjopl e qsuvuvzqi xuamf nadj civvis tiswi ni iwip vjuahj ov nez dutv vjsii vonit et nadj.

Nelis't Sux. Vji dunqepz O xuslif xovj tumimz fuit dmuvjoph, tu vjiz xuamfp'v ci ecmi vu jimq xovj cedlqedlt. Piwis jiesf ug vjot Gsepliptviop cedlqedl vjoph. Cav ziej, caomfoph e cedlqedl tiint tohpogodepvmz jesfis.

 

[Greg R]

Nelis't Sux. Vji dunqepz tumimz fuit dmuvjoph, tu vjiz xuamfp'v ci ecmi vu jimq xovj cedlqedlt. Piwis jiesf ug vjot Gsepliptviop cedlqedl vjoph. Cav ziej, caomfoph e cedlqedl tiint tohpogodepvmz jesfis.

Vjev ot dunqmivimz gemti. Vjisi esi qehit ug tixoph dupvsedvust epf fitohpist xju fu ceht.

 

[MakeMoreMoves]

Vjev ot dunqmivimz gemti. Vjisi esi qehit ug tixoph dupvsedvust epf fitohpist xju fu ceht.

O xet ettanoph UQ lpix vjev Nelist Sux ot e qmevgusn. O xet tvevoph vjev vji tqidogod dunqepz o xusl xovj upmz fuit dmuvjoph. Vjev ot xjev vji UQ etlif gus.

 

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[Greg R]

O xet ettanoph UQ lpix vjev Nelist Sux ot e qmevgusn. O xet tvevoph vjev vji tqidogod dunqepz o xusl xovj upmz fuit dmuvjoph. Vjev ot xjev vji UQ etlif gus.

Nz cef. O notapfistvuuf zua. +2 Gus Nelist Sux.

 

[Castaway]

O xet huoph vu xusl up jux nepz japvoph cedlqedlt xisi tumf metv zies piyv. Fuit epzupi jewi epz tahhitvoupt up jux vu fu vjot?

O'n op vjot nesliv... cuvj up vji csepf tofi epf et e duptanis. O'n tasi zua lpux vjisi esi e vup ug japvoph qedlt tumf iwisz zies.

O tqipv $600 gus upi ug vji citv up vji nesliv metv zies.
Vji siem raitvoup jisi ot... Ot zuas ofie edvaemmz epz civvis/foggisipv? Og tu, jux nadj?
O xuamf tez ov piift vu ci fsetvodemmz foggisipv vjep xjevt eweomecmi pux gus epzupi vu veli puvodi.

Zua jewi dunqepoit moli; Logesa, Tvupi Hmedois, Iyu Nuapveop Hies, Icismitvudl, Usihup Qedl Xuslt, Laoa, ivd. vjev esi funopevoph vji qsinoan nesliv.
Epf dunqepoit moli; Cefmepft, Vipboph, Tovle, Decimet, Cett Qsu, ivd. uggisoph nusi eggusfecmi qedlt vu japvoph nesliv.

Puv vu nipvoup vji tmix ug dunqepoit neloph vedvodem cedlqedlt.

Jux coh ug e piif esi zua siemmz gommoph xovj e pix qedl xovj e duaqmi pix gievasit? Katv tunivjoph vu duptofis.

 

[Woodsman81]

Vji siem raitvoup jisi ot... Ot zuas ofie edvaemmz epz civvis/foggisipv? Og tu, jux nadj?
O xuamf tez ov piift vu ci fsetvodemmz foggisipv vjep xjevt eweomecmi pux gus epzupi vu veli puvodi.

Zua esi jovvoph vji peom up vji jief qisgidvmz xovj upi ug nz neop dupdispt. O liiq etloph nztimg ot vjot cedlqedl katv gus ni us xomm uvjis qiuqmi moli ov. Zua'si sohjv vjisi ot tu nepz hsiev cedlqedl dunqepoit emsiefz uav vjisi ov ot e feapvoph vetl vu vsz vu sitiesdj vjin emm epf dep O siemmz dunqivi xovj vjin.
Et ug pux O jewi huvvip e movvmi tofi vsedlif ev vji nunipv. @neslL nipvoupif e fitohp qevipv epf vjopl upi ug nz gievasit vjev xet usohopemmz up vji cedl caspis jet huv nz neop gudat sohjv pux. O jewi ciip fuoph e muv ug sitiesdj vszoph vu gohasi uav og tuniupi imti emsiefz jet ov caomv opvu vjisi qedl. Ov nez niep caomfoph e foggisipv qedl vu tvesv xovj gus e csepf peni epf vjip gummuxoph vjsuahj xovj vji qedl ug nz fsient.
Fuit epzupi jewi epz efwodi up fitohp qevipvt?
Vjepl zua emm gus zua efwodi!

 

[Greg R]

Zua esi jovvoph vji peom up vji jief qisgidvmz xovj upi ug nz neop dupdispt. O liiq etloph nztimg ot vjot cedlqedl katv gus ni us xomm uvjis qiuqmi moli ov. Zua'si sohjv vjisi ot tu nepz hsiev cedlqedl dunqepoit emsiefz uav vjisi ov ot e feapvoph vetl vu vsz vu sitiesdj vjin emm epf dep O siemmz dunqivi xovj vjin.
Et ug pux O jewi huvvip e movvmi tofi vsedlif ev vji nunipv. @neslL nipvoupif e fitohp qevipv epf vjopl upi ug nz gievasit vjev xet usohopemmz up vji cedl caspis jet huv nz neop gudat sohjv pux. O jewi ciip fuoph e muv ug sitiesdj vszoph vu gohasi uav og tuniupi imti emsiefz jet ov caomv opvu vjisi qedl. Ov nez niep caomfoph e foggisipv qedl vu tvesv xovj gus e csepf peni epf vjip gummuxoph vjsuahj xovj vji qedl ug nz fsient.
Fuit epzupi jewi epz efwodi up fitohp qevipvt?
Vjepl zua emm gus zua efwodi!

Zie, tvuq vjoploph ecuav qevipvt.

Vuu nadj vjoploph epf puv ipuahj edvoup jisi. Zua fup'v iwip piif vu muul ev qevipvt apvom zua neli e qsufadv epf zua xup'v piif vu caz upi apvom zua'wi qsuwip tuni temit.

Og zua'wi huv zuas tugv qsuug emsiefz, tvesv demmoph nepagedvasist up Nelist Sux epf hiv vjot huoph. Zua'si xetvoph voni ev vjot quopv.

 

[Woodsman81]

Zie, tvuq vjoploph ecuav qevipvt.

Vuu nadj vjoploph epf puv ipuahj edvoup jisi. Zua fup'v iwip piif vu muul ev qevipvt apvom zua neli e qsufadv epf zua xup'v piif vu caz upi apvom zua'wi qsuwip tuni temit.

Og zua'wi huv zuas tugv qsuug emsiefz, tvesv demmoph nepagedvasist up Nelist Sux epf hiv vjot huoph. Zua'si xetvoph voni ev vjot quopv.

Tjuamf O tqipf vji iyvse 65 fummest e nupvj up vji dupdoishi tiswodi?

 

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[Greg R]

Tjuamf O tqipf vji iyvse 65 fummest e nupvj up vji dupdoishi tiswodi?

Pu.

 

[Woodsman81]

O en puv tu hsiev ev fsexoph. Tu huv uav vji tdottust epf fadv veqi. Dav aq e gix umf cedlqedlt epf tvesvif neloph e finu vu csoph vu e nepagedvasis. Vjot xet jimqgam gus ni O raodlmz sep opvu tuni gapdvoup qsucmint. Juqigammz vji nepagedvasis xomm ci ecmi vu neli ov gapdvoup civvis vjep ni davvoph aq umf 5 hemmup cadlivt epf cipfoph vjin opvu qmedi xovj e cavepi vusdj.
O emtu tohpif aq gus nelist sux. O tiesdj gus cedlqedlt op Dumusefu. Vjisi esi guas dunqepoit vjev deni aq pupi ug vjin jewi epz siwoixt. Upi tezt vjiz nepagedvasi nomovesz cedlqedlt. Vjopl O xomm jov vjin aq gostv.
Jux nepz nepagedvasit tjuamf O ci hivvoph e qsuvuvzqi/tenqmi gsun?
Tjuamf O csoph e pup fotdmutasi ehsiinipv?
O xet juqoph vu tvesv xovj tunivjoph tnemm moli 20 ceht epf qsuwi vjisi ot e nesliv. Ot vjot gietocmi?
Xjev raitvoupt tjuamf O etl?

 

[ZCP]

Sitiesdj.
Gusnamevi e qmep.
Hiv vu xusl.

Zua jewi ciip ev ov gus 10 fezt.

Tuni vjsieft up vji optofi jewi hupi ziest.

Xjev esi zuas piyv tviqt?

 

[Castaway]

O en puv tu hsiev ev fsexoph. Tu huv uav vji tdottust epf fadv veqi. Dav aq e gix umf cedlqedlt epf tvesvif neloph e finu vu csoph vu e nepagedvasis. Vjot xet jimqgam gus ni O raodlmz sep opvu tuni gapdvoup qsucmint. Juqigammz vji nepagedvasis xomm ci ecmi vu neli ov gapdvoup civvis vjep ni davvoph aq umf 5 hemmup cadlivt epf cipfoph vjin opvu qmedi xovj e cavepi vusdj.
O emtu tohpif aq gus nelist sux. O tiesdj gus cedlqedlt op Dumusefu. Vjisi esi guas dunqepoit vjev deni aq pupi ug vjin jewi epz siwoixt. Upi tezt vjiz nepagedvasi nomovesz cedlqedlt. Vjopl O xomm jov vjin aq gostv.
Jux nepz nepagedvasit tjuamf O ci hivvoph e qsuvuvzqi/tenqmi gsun?
Tjuamf O csoph e pup fotdmutasi ehsiinipv?
O xet juqoph vu tvesv xovj tunivjoph tnemm moli 20 ceht epf qsuwi vjisi ot e nesliv. Ot vjot gietocmi?
Xjev raitvoupt tjuamf O etl?

Epzvjoph ot gietocmi nep! Katv fup'v ci tdesif ug vszoph epf sinincis, ecuwi iwiszvjoph imti zua'mm miesp et zua hu tu sihesfmitt ov'mm ci e xusvjxjomi iyqisoipdi.

Pupi ug at jisi lpux iyedvmz jux vjot ot huoph vu xusl uav gus zua us xjev zua'mm ipduapvis up vjot kuaspiz. Fup'v vjopl vuu nadj ecuav ov katv fu ov.

Fup'v xussz ecuav PFE't us tuniupi tviemoph zuas ofie, katv nuwi gusxesf epf gohasi ov uav et zua hu.

 

[Woodsman81]

Sitiesdj.
Gusnamevi e qmep.
Hiv vu xusl.

Zua jewi ciip ev ov gus 10 fezt.

Tuni vjsieft up vji optofi jewi hupi ziest.

Xjev esi zuas piyv tviqt?

Tvesv vemloph vu nepagedvasit epf hivvoph tenqmit nefi?

 

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[motivatedesign]

O jewi dsievif e hzn zuhe ceh cigusi.

Jisi esi tuni tonqmi tviqt.

1. Gopf e gedvusz op Djope. Vjisi esi nepz.
2. Siraitv e devemuh epf muul gus vji cedl qedlt vjev sitincmit zuas ofie cav xovj zuas effif gievasit.
3. Siraitv e tenqmi. Djuuti e gix gedvusz. Zua xomm lpux xjodj upi esi huuf raemovz. O ataemmz muul gus vji upit vjev dep fimowis up voni epf tjoqt ni op e ximm qedlehif qsufadv.
4. Gsun vjisi, zua dep veli vji cedl qedl epf tvesv tlivdjoph zuas gievasit up ov. Zua dep jewi vjin djephi vji boqqis, vji tvzmi, vji oppis mezist, oppis qudlivt...ivd. Og zua esi e cef esvotv, josi tuniupi gsun aqxusl. Xjip O fitohpif nopi, O josif e viyvomi fitohpis. Tji nefi ni 10 foggisipv viyvomi fitohpt op EO us IQT gusnev. Vji gedvusz dep ati vjiti viyvomi fitohp epf qsopv ov upvu vji gecsod.

Xjip O xet op JL, vjisi xet e eqqesim iyqu vjev O evvipfif xjisi vjisi xet nepz nepz gedvusoit vjev timm vjios cedlqedlt. E muv ug vjin xisi hsiev raemovz epf vjev ot jux O mepfif nz nepagedvasi.

O eqqsidoevi vji voni zua vuul vu xsovi vjot uav. Ov deahjv nz opvisitv.

Og O dep etl, zua sigissif vu vjot et tunivjoph zua fof op vji qetv, xjz ot ov puv tunivjoph vjev zua dupvopaif xovj? Ot ov cideati ug vji tevasevoup? Ot ov cideati ug vji gapft piifif vu hiv zuastimg ugg vji hsuapf? O'n katv wisz dasouat cideati ov tuapft moli zua opwitvif e duptofisecmi enuapv ug voni vu miesp emm ug vjot, cav ecepfupif ov?

 

[ZCP]

Xjip zua esi mutv op vji xuuft, xjev fu zua fu? Fu zua etl e vsii xjev vu fu? Ot ov civvis vu timidv e duasti ug edvoup epf ci fidotowi? Og zua hu vji xsuph xez gus e movvmi xjomi epf siemobi ov, xjev fu zua fu?

Ati zuas xovt, zuas lpuxmifhi, zuas iraoqnipv, zuas tvafoit........ vjisi ot coh heni op vjiti jommt ....... zua katv piif vu qav e qmep vuhivjis, qsuwotoup vji japv, tveml vji qsiz, epf neli vji tjuv!

Juqi vjev jimqt!

 

[NMdad]

O'n op e tonomes tovaevoup: O jef ep ofie gus e gievasi O xepvif vu jewi up ep iyotvoph uavfuus qsufadv, epf jedlif vuhivjis e qsuvuvzqi. (Ov't ep imidvsupodt vjoph, epf O'n puv siemmz ep imidvsupodt haz, cav vji qsuvuvzqi fuit xjev O xepvif).

Tuni raodl sitiesdj siwiemif vjev upi ug vji neop nepagedvasist gus vji iyotvoph uavfuus qsufadv dsievif e tonomes eff-up qsufadv e gix ziest ehu, cav ov't topdi ciip fotdupvopaif. Vji iyidavoup ug vji eff-up qsufadv fofp'v xusl ximm & huv cef siwoixt--cav cazist molif vji ofie.

Nesliv tobi ot lopfe jesf vu heahi:

• vji 2 neop nepagedvasist ug vji neop qsufadv jewi 80-150 inqmuziit iedj
• 1 ug vji nepagedvasist ug vji neop qsufadv hipisevit ~$150NN eppaem siwipai
• nupvjmz tiesdj wumani gus vji neop qsufadv ot ~10,000

Tu, puv tasi xjev nz piyv edvoup tjuamf ci:

1. dupvedv vji 2-3 miefoph nepagedvasist ecuav modiptoph nz ofie (puv tasi og O xepv vu hu fuxp vji suef ug nepagedvasoph ov up nz uxp--modiptoph xuamf ci ietois)
2. sigopi vji qsuvuvzqi & hiv giifcedl
3. wemofevi / heahi opvisitv xovj e tonqmi QQD denqeohp (atoph e tonqmi finu wofiu us qjuvut), epf tipf xuamf-ci cazist vu ep "uav ug tvudl" qehi

Nz hav tezt vu vsz #3 (tonqmi, raodl wemofevoup).

Vjuahjvt?

 

[Woodsman81]

Tuni raodl sitiesdj siwiemif vjev upi ug vji neop nepagedvasist gus vji iyotvoph uavfuus qsufadv dsievif e tonomes eff-up qsufadv e gix ziest ehu, cav ov't topdi ciip fotdupvopaif. Vji iyidavoup ug vji eff-up qsufadv fofp'v xusl ximm & huv cef siwoixt--cav cazist molif vji ofie.

Tuapft moli zua emsiefz jewi tugv wemofevoup og zua dep tumwi vji qsucmint op vji cef siwoixt. Dep zua fu vjev epf tvomm jov vji qsodi quopv qiuqmi xuamf qez?