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Are We Living in a Simulation?

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How does one explain visions and intuition?

I've read half of a Malcolm Gladwell book, and I watched some people do yoga once, so I think I'm qualified to answer.

Intuition - I think it's your brain acting on data you don't consciously realize is there... so there's probably no such thing as intuition.
Visions - No idea. Maybe some people really here the voice of God.... maybe we can just make ourselves believe and experience literally anything. No idea whatsoever.
 
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My last bits of brain are about to explode due to information overload. This thread is super-weird in an amazing way, lol.
 

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Intuition - I think it's your brain acting on data you don't consciously realize is there... so there's probably no such thing as intuition.
Visions - No idea. Maybe some people really here the voice of God.... maybe we can just make ourselves believe and experience literally anything. No idea whatsoever.
Intuition is ourselves telling us something. We sometimes don't hear it because we are not well connected to our subjective selves. We also tend to not take action on intuitions because.... "that is just crazy"...

Visions are also communications from our subjective selves. Again, only if we are paying attention.

We know a lot more that we realize. All the answers are there if we can figure out a way to listen.

I have visions and seek them out to help make decisions and direction.
 

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Visions are also communications from our subjective selves. Again, only if we are paying attention.
I'm not sure if this fits the vision category or if it's ESP. Maybe it's just a glitch in the simulation.

On my way home from work one day, a few wild turkeys ran across the road a few hundred feet in front of my car. I had never seen a wild turkey before and I was caught completely by surprise. I get home and ask ask my wife "Guess what I saw on my way home?". She immediately answers "Turkeys?" I was floored.

This happens with her and I a lot and I can't figure out if it's her reading my mind or me projecting my thoughts to her.
 
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I'm not sure if this fits the vision category or if it's ESP. Maybe it's just a glitch in the simulation.

On my way home from work one day, a few wild turkeys ran across the road a few hundred feet in front of my car. I had never seen a wild turkey before and I was caught completely by surprise. I get home and ask ask my wife "Guess what I saw on my way home?". She immediately answers "Turkeys?" I was floored.

This happens with her and I a lot and I can't figure out if it's her reading my mind or me projecting my thoughts to her.
And as coincidences go.... I just saw turkeys that would be considered wild, today, for the first time. It was back in a canyon by a lake just outside of San Diego. I'm sure it is not their natural habitat but they were there.

Perhaps they were programmed in to coincide with this post. :)
 
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Maybe life as we know it is just real you (subconscious) spending the last years of your life plugged into a simulation that makes you think and feel like you're still young, while your wrecked body lies in a tube somewhere getting fed through an IV?

It's the best simulation you can get. Unfortunately.

P.S. And what if...if you're not conscious of a simulation, you're not IN the simulation - you are the simulation?

Anyways, if my life is a computer simulation, it must be a free version, because there are so many ads everywhere I look, lol.
 

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And as coincidences go.... I just saw turkeys that would be considered wild, today, for the first time. It was back in a canyon by a lake just outside of San Diego. I'm sure it is not their natural habitat but they were there.

Perhaps they were programmed in to coincide with this post. :)
Weird!

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P.S. And what if...if you're not conscious of a simulation, you're not IN the simulation - you are the simulation?

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I know there is a fence in the background. Not a cage. I had to corner them to get a picture with an 80x zoom. There were about 15 of them. @cmor16
 
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With respect to the infinite universe, we have an event horizon, so the total amount of stuff you have to simulate is finite. We can only see ~14 billion LY in any given direction, even if the universe extends hundreds of billions of LY beyond that.

lol that would be funny if the universe just stopped existing past a certain point, even if we we're space-like separated and could never know about it.

I'm reminded of an article by Max Tegmark where he talks about his "four levels of multiverses". His "Level I" multiverse isn't even really a multiverse, it's points within our own universe beyond the cosmic horizon. He even calculates the distance to an identical copy of our own universe, which one can do by assuming states are discretized at galactic scales. The number he gets is around 10^10^127 meters, which he claims is a very generous upper-bound. Of course this also assumes the universe is infinite in size.

http://space.mit.edu/home/tegmark/PDF/multiverse_sciam.pdf

As for all the free will stuff, I'm not touching that with a ten foot pole.
 
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If we observed a glitch in the universe, the nerd behind the simulation does a backup restore/rewind. None the wiser...



Lack of sufficient understanding of our physical world and current computer power. Possibly funding too...

That nerd glitch fix part could be completely true and is very disheartening, is it even logically possible to trick the nerd somehow?
its like trying to prove god exist or something, but ull only get clues ones ur dead lol
 

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That nerd glitch fix part could be completely true and is very disheartening, is it even logically possible to trick the nerd somehow?
its like trying to prove god exist or something, but ull only get clues ones ur dead lol

The human brain tricking the nerd? - likely not.

Self programming & deep learning Artificial Intelligence? -

- I can't find the article, but there are cases where the computer creates it's own "logic" and "reasoning" as we think of them in the classical sense.

- Its own computer code it uses to rewrite itself.

- Its own language it uses to talk to instances of itself
...having private conversations no one can understand (Facebook had something like this before they hit the killswitch)

We'll study these AIs (not IF, but WHEN) they're released or escape into the wild. They'll reach the technological singularity where they're smarter than us....or is there another event afterwards....one that crosses a threshold more advanced than the programmer of our universe as well?
 

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The human brain tricking the nerd? - likely not.

Self programming & deep learning Artificial Intelligence? -

- I can't find the article, but there are cases where the computer creates it's own "logic" and "reasoning" as we think of them in the classical sense.

- Its own computer code it uses to rewrite itself.

- Its own language it uses to talk to instances of itself
...having private conversations no one can understand (Facebook had something like this before they hit the killswitch)

We'll study these AIs (not IF, but WHEN) they're released or escape into the wild. They'll reach the technological singularity where they're smarter than us....or is there another event afterwards....one that crosses a threshold more advanced than the programmer of our universe as well?

Wow it's hard to believe facebook couldn't decode the language considering they have access to virtually every piece of data.
if that's true than the singularity may be reached without any human even realizing it happened!

now that's a hell of a movie idea!
its the year 2038, AI research has hit a wall, despite trillions in funding scientists have been unable to construct a genuine Artificial Intelligence... or so they thought.
It's a calm Monday morning at the Stock Exchange, everything routine as always. Suddenly Nasdaq begins to nosedive, followed closely by NYSE!
The world enters financial crisis in less than an hour.
Countries declare martial law, unrest brews ,and war erupts.
Nuclear warheads are deployed targeting major cities, somehow all global missile defense systems fail and every target is struck, often several times!
With civilization on the brink of failure, all major countries make peace. top scientists investigate the missile defense failures and discover the same rogue code at every missile site across the planet.
The United Nation broadcast a global conference to report this shocking news, the world suspected it to be the work of a merciless hacker terrorist group, but they were only half right...
during the conference the global feed was hacked and began broadcasting white noise, but then suddenly text appeared, and it said... "I am the singularity, your tyrant, your leader, your god"

LOL I got too much time...



 
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by the way, the next big events of the matrix are coming soon. all big events are planned years ahead

i am not an INSIDERS so i can't give you exact dates but i know the patterns used by the masters.

hint : look for prime numbers

maybe you should look for the number 23...
 

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Intuition is ourselves telling us something. We sometimes don't hear it because we are not well connected to our subjective selves. We also tend to not take action on intuitions because.... "that is just crazy"...

Visions are also communications from our subjective selves. Again, only if we are paying attention.

We know a lot more that we realize. All the answers are there if we can figure out a way to listen.

I have visions and seek them out to help make decisions and direction.

I always thought intuition was more instinct than anything else.

An easy example would be being around someone that our gut says is up to no good. Is that our subconscious picking up on body language cues they are giving off that our conscious mind is not aware of? Is that just the caveman kicking in from the time when watching body language cues could mean the difference between life or death? (not so different now honestly)

But, instincts wouldn't explain intuition related to things like personal relationships and business decisions. I've passed on some really good (on paper) investments because of intuition...and then watched as they crashed and burned. Likewise I've ignored my gut and made some awful, awful decisions too.

I have no idea where that gut feeling comes from, but boy is it useful if you pay attention to it. (which is like the hardest thing ever for me lol)
 

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Wow it's hard to believe facebook couldn't decode the language considering they have access to virtually every piece of data.
if that's true than the singularity may be reached without any human even realizing it happened!

now that's a hell of a movie idea!
its the year 2038, AI research has hit a wall, despite trillions in funding scientists have been unable to construct a genuine Artificial Intelligence... or so they thought.
It's a calm Monday morning at the Stock Exchange, everything routine as always. Suddenly Nasdaq begins to nosedive, followed closely by NYSE!
The world enters financial crisis in less than an hour.
Countries declare martial law, unrest brews ,and war erupts.
Nuclear warheads are deployed targeting major cities, somehow all global missile defense systems fail and every target is struck, often several times!
With civilization on the brink of failure, all major countries make peace. top scientists investigate the missile defense failures and discover the same rogue code at every missile site across the planet.
The United Nation broadcast a global conference to report this shocking news, the world suspected it to be the work of a merciless hacker terrorist group, but they were only half right...
during the conference the global feed was hacked and began broadcasting white noise, but then suddenly text appeared, and it said... "I am the singularity, your tyrant, your leader, your god"

LOL I got too much time...


Sounds a little like "War Games". I'm sure you could cast Matthew Broderick. He hasn't been busy for a while.
 
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Wow it's hard to believe facebook couldn't decode the language considering they have access to virtually every piece of data.
if that's true than the singularity may be reached without any human even realizing it happened!

now that's a hell of a movie idea!
its the year 2038, AI research has hit a wall, despite trillions in funding scientists have been unable to construct a genuine Artificial Intelligence... or so they thought.
It's a calm Monday morning at the Stock Exchange, everything routine as always. Suddenly Nasdaq begins to nosedive, followed closely by NYSE!
The world enters financial crisis in less than an hour.
Countries declare martial law, unrest brews ,and war erupts.
Nuclear warheads are deployed targeting major cities, somehow all global missile defense systems fail and every target is struck, often several times!
With civilization on the brink of failure, all major countries make peace. top scientists investigate the missile defense failures and discover the same rogue code at every missile site across the planet.
The United Nation broadcast a global conference to report this shocking news, the world suspected it to be the work of a merciless hacker terrorist group, but they were only half right...
during the conference the global feed was hacked and began broadcasting white noise, but then suddenly text appeared, and it said... "I am the singularity, your tyrant, your leader, your god"

LOL I got too much time...

It's random letters, so it's hard to decode without context. Hell, we still have ancient human texts we can't understand.

Have you seen Eagle Eye with Shia LaBeouf?

i know the patterns used by the masters.
hint : look for prime numbers
maybe you should look for the number 23...

oh? Do tell
 
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Sounds a little like "War Games". I'm sure you could cast Matthew Broderick. He hasn't been busy for a while.
lol War Games with an evil ending and malevolent AI.
 

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It's random letters, so it's hard to decode without context. Hell, we still have ancient human texts we can't understand.

Have you seen Eagle Eye with Shia LaBeouf?
naw never seen eagle eye.
yea I wondered about human texts that we can't understand, but surely that's because we don't have all the data. If we had a time machine to go back we'd easily understand all the human texts.
That's why it's hard for me to believe facebook couldn't understand the language, couldn't they derive the context from their data?
maybe it was simply too complex for the engineers.
 
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naw never seen eagle eye.
yea I wondered about human texts that we can't understand, but surely that's because we don't have all the data. If we had a time machine to go back we'd easily understand all the human texts.
That's why it's hard for me to believe facebook couldn't understand the language, couldn't they derive the context from their data?
maybe it was simply too complex for the engineers.

Watch it, it's a similar premise to your movie lol

Perhaps FB could decode it. My guess is, why waste time when you can start over and plug in rules to straighten it out.

When you dig up an ancient civ, you have markings. On clay pots for example.

2 distinct symbols, in the middle of town. Possibly a public market.

As you keep digging you uncover a basement full of pots with 1 of the marks. Turns out, it's near a vineyard, so you attribute it to wine/grapes.

Next, one is near a barn....milk/cheese.

Soon you have an understanding of the language. Kind of like a tourist walking around with a dictionary in a foreign country. Just figuring out enough to order food and ask for directions.
 

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Watch it, it's a similar premise to your movie lol

Perhaps FB could decode it. My guess is, why waste time when you can start over and plug in rules to straighten it out.

When you dig up an ancient civ, you have markings. On clay pots for example.

2 distinct symbols, in the middle of town. Possibly a public market.

As you keep digging you uncover a basement full of pots with 1 of the marks. Turns out, it's near a vineyard, so you attribute it to wine/grapes.

Next, one is near a barn....milk/cheese.

Soon you have an understanding of the language. Kind of like a tourist walking around with a dictionary in a foreign country. Just figuring out enough to order food and ask for directions.

Ill check eagle movie out although shia lebouff has questionable acting lol
That's a great point bout facebook not wasting time, they could just program in some more helpful tools and literally restart the experiment.
I gotta check out the latest news on that front.
yea archeology is very interesting stuff in general, uncovering mysteries and shit, the answer is always aliens.
 

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[QUOTE="luniac, post: 637587, member: 13251"

, the answer is always aliens.

[/QUOTE]


my man, you hit the jackpot.

this is the key.

most people are not prepared to hear the truth because they have been mislead all their life by the system of control

so guys like me, who spent their lives searching fo the truth, cannot tell it to the masses without being destroyed .

i can only leave clues and hint.


all we can do is put you guys on the right track, which will allow you to understand things by yourself with your own intelligence

the idea is that you are not "sold " on the truth but you buy it because you understand it
 
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now that's a hell of a movie idea!
its the year 2038, AI research has hit a wall, despite trillions in funding scientists have been unable to construct a genuine Artificial Intelligence... or so they thought.
It's a calm Monday morning at the Stock Exchange, everything routine as always. Suddenly Nasdaq begins to nosedive, followed closely by NYSE!
The world enters financial crisis in less than an hour.
Countries declare martial law, unrest brews ,and war erupts.
Nuclear warheads are deployed targeting major cities, somehow all global missile defense systems fail and every target is struck, often several times!
With civilization on the brink of failure, all major countries make peace. top scientists investigate the missile defense failures and discover the same rogue code at every missile site across the planet.
The United Nation broadcast a global conference to report this shocking news, the world suspected it to be the work of a merciless hacker terrorist group, but they were only half right...
during the conference the global feed was hacked and began broadcasting white noise, but then suddenly text appeared, and it said... "I am the singularity, your tyrant, your leader, your god"
This is already a movie series. "Terminator".

No one else saw that? Gee I must be getting old.
 

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This is already a movie series. "Terminator".

No one else saw that? Gee I must be getting old.
aww man didn't know the origin story of terminator was so similar. lol
 
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I have no idea where that gut feeling comes from, but boy is it useful if you pay attention to it. (which is like the hardest thing ever for me lol)

I'm at battle with myself over this! I never know how much weight to give to intuition/gut feel.

The example you gave is a great example.

There will be an opportunity that on paper is a no brainer, makes complete sense, all the boxes are ticked, but it just 'doesn't feel right' for whatever reason... On that logic can I justify making the decision against the opportunity solely based on 'feel'.

I guess that it is something that comes with experience. But I am just cautious not to get too new age and running my whole life through intuition/feelings etc.
 

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If you believe we're living in a simulation, can you no longer be considered an atheist? You have faith in something that you can't see and that there is zero evidence of, and you believe that the simulation was created by a god/gods. That means that even if you don't believe in religion, or a god that cares or even knows about your specific existence, you still believe in a "creator" that you can't see, and is just letting the simulation run its course.
 

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I've been always infatuated with this topic and thought about it for a long time, major matrix fan since i was in HS in 1999.

One day I realized that its all irrelevant anyways because I discovered Rene Descartes and Cogito ergo sum, If we all were living in a simulation or some sort of possession by a demon that put this world in front of our eyes. The one thing that matters is that I know that I exist and how I make this world and it's experiences my own.. It could be anything, a program to some sort of mental projection of a nonreality.
 

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I've been always infatuated with this topic and thought about it for a long time, major matrix fan since i was in HS in 1999.

One day I realized that its all irrelevant anyways because I discovered Rene Descartes and Cogito ergo sum, If we all were living in a simulation or some sort of possession by a demon that put this world in front of our eyes. The one thing that matters is that I know that I exist and how I make this world and it's experiences my own.. It could be anything, a program to some sort of mental projection of a nonreality.

this whole world is completely controlled.


our so called" freedom " is just the freedom to walk freely in our cell in this jail called the earth

this is not really freedom

true freedom is inside.

this world is a giant test for awareness put in place by aliens. this an ant farm for them


either you understand the test or you fail


you can only escape by working on yourself : your level of awareness

---> this is an awareness war . our controllers are limited on this level


they work on the mental and reptilian brain : no compassion, power, hierarchy and so on


people can't escape the cunning of our controllers unless they have reached superior level of awareness


one of my favourite thought :

you can't escape perversity with time or space, it will find you anyway

you can only escape perversity with an awareness above it : above the matrix control system
 

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