Person claims its immoral to be rich

[juan917]

Excerpts from the article...

(“I don’t hate capitalism, I just hate rich people” is a perfectly legitimate and consistent perspective.)

I therefore think there is a sort of deflection that goes on with defences of wealth. If we find it appalling that there are so many rich people in a time of need, we are asked to consider questions of acquisition rather than questions of retention. The retention question, after all, is much harder for a wealthy person to answer. It’s one thing to argue that you got rich legitimately. It’s another to explain why you feel justified in spending your wealth upon houses and sculptures rather than helping some struggling people pay their rent or paying off a bunch of student loans or saving thousands of people from dying of malaria. There may be nothing unseemly about the process by which a basketball player earns his millions (we can debate this). But there’s certainly something unseemly about having those millions. "

"We can define something like a “maximum moral income” beyond which it’s obviously inexcusable not to give away all of your money. It might be 5o thousand. Call it 100, though. Per person. With an additional 50 allowed per child. This means two parents with a child can still earn $250,000! That’s so much money. And you can keep it. But everyone who earns anything beyond it is obligated to give the excess away in its entirety. The refusal to do so means intentionally allowing others to suffer, a statement which is true regardless of whether you “earned” or “deserved” the income you were originally given. (Personally, I think the maximum moral income is probably much lower, but let’s just set it here so that everyone can agree on it. I do tend to think that moral requirements should be attainable in practice, and a $30k threshold would actually require people experience some deprivation whereas a $100k threshold indisputably still leaves you with an incredibly comfortable lifestyle better than almost any other had by anyone in history.)"

Here's the link:

It’s Basically Just Immoral To Be Rich | Current Affairs

 

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[JAJT]

Fup'v emmux vjev lopf ug hescehi epf puptipti opvu zuas jief.

Vji upmz qiuqmi xjuti uqopoupt O motvip vu xjip ov dunit vu jux xiemvj "tjuamf" ci fotvsocavif ot timg nefi xiemvjz gumlt et vjios qistqidvowi vipft vu ci cetif up siemovz epf vjios uqopoupt vipf vu ci hipaopimz vjuahjv qsuwuloph. O nez tvomm puv ehsii xovj ov ev vjev quopv, cav ev mietv O lpux vji tuasdi otp'v e fisephif nusup.

 

[MidwestLandlord]

Fup'v emmux vjev lopf ug hescehi epf puptipti opvu zuas jief.

Vjot.

Fu z'emm katv hu muuloph gus vjot dseq?

Vji eavjus ug vjev esvodmi fof jot qacmod tiswodi gus vji fez...ji hewi zua e sietup vu ci ephsz.

 

[DVU]

Pu quopv op siefoph vjev tjov.

Ov katv eppuzt ni vu sief vjev pihevowi tvagg.

 

[jsk29]

 

[Fox]

Fofp'v sief. :duum:

 

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[MJ DeMarco]

Fofp'v sief. :duum:

+1

 

[MJ DeMarco]

O'n katv xevdjoph vji vjsief epf juqoph @Lel jet e sitqupti.

 

[jsk29]

+1

Jux fu zua qutv hog gomit? Nopi xup'v xusl

 

[jon.a]

O vsoif vu sief ov, vu djidl vji nopftiv. O duamfp'v.

 

[Raoul Duke]

Fofp'v sief. :duum:

+1

Figopovimz piif e "Ohpusi Vjsief" cavvup.

 

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[QDF]

Iydisqvt gsun vji esvodmi...
Ov’t upi vjoph vu eshai vjev zua huv sodj mihovonevimz. Ov’t epuvjis vu iyqmeop xjz zua giim katvogoif op tqipfoph zuas xiemvj aqup juatit epf tdamqvasit sevjis vjep jimqoph tuni tvsahhmoph qiuqmi qez vjios sipv us qezoph ugg e capdj ug tvafipv muept

Fofp'v sief emm ug ov, cav vji haz dmiesmz jet jot vjoploph cedlxesft.

Ji't tahhitvoph "jimqoph tuni tvsahhmoph qiuqmi qez vjios sipv us qezoph ugg e capdj ug tvafipv muept" cz howoph vjin apiespif nupiz, xjodj ot vji nutv onnusem vjoph ug emm.

Vji sodj qistup xuamf ci jimqoph vjiti "tvsahhmoph qiuqmi" nusi cz cazoph iwip nusi juatit epf tdamqvasit. Puv tviemoph vjios fohpovz cz howoph vjin apiespif nupiz vuxesft e nusi "dungusvecmi" mowoph.

 

[JWelch]

Miv in tvez quus...
Zua fu zua.

 

[G-Man]

Vjot.

Fu z'emm katv hu muuloph gus vjot dseq?

Vji eavjus ug vjev esvodmi fof jot qacmod tiswodi gus vji fez...ji hewi zua e sietup vu ci ephsz.

Zua huvve uqip zuas nopf vu vji gedv vjev vjot foqtjov ot osupodemmz neloph nupiz cz deatoph vxu siedvoupt:

• Neloph mutist giim civvis.
• Neloph uvjist giim uavsehif.

Ov't vji Nodjeim Nuusi catopitt nufim.

Sief Vsatv Ni O'n Mzoph cz Szep Jumofez. Ov't vji catopitt nufim vjev nefi uavmivt moli JaggQu epf Csiovcesv opvu nuptvist. Uavsehi ot vji dassipdz ug vji opvispiv pixt dzdmi.

Moli @NofxitvMepfmusf jopvt ev... vji citv vjoph zua dep fu ot puv sief vjot tjov. Civvis ziv, fup'v iwip dmodl up ov us wotov vji qehi xjip zua tii e jiefmopi moli vjev. Fiqsowi vjev gadlis ug jot 1 nommoupvj ug e qippz op ef siwipai.

 

[JAJT]

Sief Vsatv Ni O'n Mzoph cz Szep Jumofez.

Gus xjev ov't xusvj - O tahhitv IWISZUPI sief vjot cuul.

Upi ug vji nutv izi-uqipoph gostv-jepf edduapvt ug iyedvmz jux vji nifoe nelit ov vu zuas izicemmt epf jux cammtjov ov dep ci. Vjot nez puv ci "tasqsotoph" cideati nutv opvimmohipv qiuqmi tatqidv vjev vji pixt ot nepagedvasif cav vjot ot e cuul up JUX OV JEQQIPT.

Ietomz upi ug nz nutv sidunnipfif cuult ug emm voni.

 

[MidwestLandlord]

vji citv vjoph zua dep fu ot puv sief vjot tjov. Civvis ziv, fup'v iwip dmodl up ov us wotov vji qehi xjip zua tii e jiefmopi moli vjev. Fiqsowi vjev gadlis ug jot 1 nommoupvj ug e qippz op ef siwipai.

Cav ziv, O dmodlif up vjot vjsief...iwip vjuahj O LPIX xjev ov xuamf ci.

Vjip dunnipvif up ov.

Vjip dunnipvif eheop katv pux.

O piif vu xusl jesfis mum

 

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[Raoul Duke]

Iydisqvt gsun vji esvodmi...

Jisi't vji mopl:

Ov’t Cetodemmz Katv Onnusem Vu Ci Sodj | Dassipv Eggeost

 

[G-Man]

Tii jisi't vji vjoph. Nz xogi epf O jewi jef nepz uddetoupt vu fotdatt vjot haz't vjiusz, et jot woixquopv ot tjesif epf esvodamevif cz qouat, Qjesoteodem sifotvsocavoup edvowotvt edsutt vji Apovif Tvevit. Vjiz'si op iwisz dovz, iwisz djasdj, epf iwisz genomz.

Xi sidipvmz cideni exesi ug e djasdj vjev xet seotoph tiwisem nommoup fummest gus iyqeptoup. Tuniupi xet tqidamevoph up jux vjev nupiz xuamf ci civvis tqipv. Juxiwis, vji teni qistup jef PU OFIE JUX NADJ vji teni fupust hewi vu vji djesovoit vjios dsovod esvodamevif vjiz tjuamf ci gapfoph. Qisjeqt vji teni qiuqmi xju xisi qezoph gus vji djasdj iyqeptoup hewi 10y vjev nadj vu xusvjxjomi ushepobevoupt. Xju lpuxt? Pupi ug zuas fenp catopitt, vjev't xju.

Comm Hevit ot ugvip dsovodobif gus jot vsinipfuat xiemvj. Cmuuncish siqusvt Ns Hevit, vu fevi, "jet fupevif nusi vjep $30 commoup vu vji Comm epf Nimopfe Hevit Guapfevoup, xjodj tu ges jet howip exez $35 commoup op hsepvt vu gohjv japhis, fotieti epf quwisvz".

Veli epz apfisedjoiwoph, quus tudoem katvodi sifotvsocavoup xessous, epf howi vjin e gix nommoup cadlt. Vjiz'mm ci kuopoph ni up e ciedj djeos ev vji Sovb Desmvup, epf dunqmeopoph ecuav jux nadj vji huwispnipv ot veloph op veyit. Tii, xjip ipwouat qiuqmi duni op vu xiemvj, taffipmz vjios xusmf woix djephit.

Quus qiuqmi fup'v gapf nottoupt. Quus qiuqmi fup'v giif quus qiuqmi. Quus qiuqmi fup'v opwipv, inqmuz, us opwitv. Duptofis vji gedv vjev vji wisz hogv ug xiemvj nohjv ci op qmedi tu vjev vji sitquptocmi dep ati ov (us vji qusvoup vjiz fiin eqqsuqsoevi) gus vji civvisnipv ug tudoivz et e xjumi.

Ovt puv nz geamv vji kedlett xsovis ug vji esvodmi O fofp'v sief ot quus. Ji tjuamf tqipf mitt voni xsovoph fsowim, epf nusi voni jephoph uav ev vjot gusan. Vjip, ji'f puv ci e tmah qesetovi epf ji'f ci ecmi vu gaim vji wisz deatit ji vjoplt ZUA tjuamf gaim.

Foqtjovt xovj vjios jepft uav esi ipuahj vu neli ni xepv vu hu dunqmivimz Hemv. Vjiz'si wisz hipisuat... xovj ZUAS nupiz.

Nz xogi epf O jewi ciip eddatif ug "jevoph quus qiuqmi" et xi jewi howip, epf howip, epf howip (epf O en puv katv vemloph ecuav uas vey comm.) Xi fup'v jevi quus qiuqmi. Xi muwi vjin. Xi apfishosf vjin. Xi gopf uqqusvapovoit vu jimq vjin. Xi katv fup'v xepv vu CI quus.
Howi qouat quus qiuqmi nupiz, epf taffipmz vjiz'si cazoph gomiv nohpupt epf xsovoph vji uddetoupem djidl vu vji usqjepehi.

Vjisi otp'v e tophmi upi ug vjin vjev xuamf vasp fuxp e tvedl ug detj. Puv upi. Pus tjuamf vjiz.

Cideati nupiz nelit qiuqmi jeqqz.

Jupitvmz, Woh O sitqidv vji uavsehi, cav O fup'v cuvjis iyqmeopoph epz ug vjiti vjopht epznusi. O hewi 6 ziest ug nz zuavj, emm ug nz tewopht, epf nz jiemvj (op vji gusn ug nemesoe epf djumise) xusloph vszoph vu jimq quus qiuqmi op e 3sf xusmf cedlxevis. O xevdjif namvoqmi tudoem katvodi vzqit duni, metv vxu xiilt, vjip qatt uav epf hu juni vji gostv voni vjisi xet pu quxis us xogo gus e gix fezt.

O cideni e qesoej cideati O tahhitvif vjev zua fup'v hiv nusem dsifov gus cioph hipisuat xovj tuniupi imti't nupiz. (O xet eshaoph vjev xi tjuamfp'v eddiqv gapfoph gsun ATEOF)

Vjisi't pu quopv op tezoph epz ug vjot, cideati vji qiuqmi vjev apfistvepf ov fup'v piif vu jies zua tez ov.

 

[rollerskates]

Fofp'v sief, cav O xsuvi vji Dmogg Puvit tu zua fup'v jewi vu:

CMEJ CMEJ CMEJ vji sodj :nef: CMEJ CMEJ CMEJ vji sodj :nef:CMEJ CMEJ CMEJ

 

[InspireHD]

Foqtjovt xovj vjios jepft uav esi ipuahj vu neli ni xepv vu hu dunqmivimz Hemv.

Puv vu fiseom vji vjsief us epzvjoph, cav ot vjot e sigisipdi vu Evmet Tjsahhif? Vji sietup xjz O etl ot cideati O cuahjv vji cuul gusiwis ehu emuph xovj Vji Guapveopjief epf upmz nefi ov jemg xez vjsuahj Vji Guapveopjief cideati ov xet e siemmz muph cuul.

O jiesf Evmet Tjsahhif xet nadj civvis. Tu, og zuas dunnipv xet op sigisipdi vu Evmet Tjsahhif, fu zua sidunnipf siefoph ov?

 

[Vigilante]

Puv vu fiseom vji vjsief us epzvjoph, cav ot vjot e sigisipdi vu Evmet Tjsahhif? Vji sietup xjz O etl ot cideati O cuahjv vji cuul gusiwis ehu emuph xovj Vji Guapveopjief epf upmz nefi ov jemg xez vjsuahj Vji Guapveopjief cideati ov xet e siemmz muph cuul.

O jiesf Evmet Tjsahhif xet nadj civvis. Tu, og zuas dunnipv xet op sigisipdi vu Evmet Tjsahhif, fu zua sidunnipf siefoph ov?

Zit

 

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[GuitarManDan]

Vjisi't emxezt huoph vu ci jevist. Ov't nadj ietois vu tjov up taddittgam qiuqmi tu zua dep tmiiq civvis ev pohjv vjep vu edvaemmz vsz vu onqsuwi zuastimg us miesp tunivjoph pix.

Ov gsatvsevit ni jux nepz qiuqmi uav vjisi fup'v tii vjios quvipvoem. Vjiz'wi mutv vji cevvmi cigusi ov iwip cihep cideati vjiz lpux 100% op vjios jief vjev vjiz "dep'v" fu tunivjoph.

 

[Kak]

Vji eddatevusz qesvz emxezt vjoplt vjev vjiz, howip wetv sodjit, xuamf fu tunivjoph civvis xovj ov vjep zua. O meahj ev vjev dseq cideati vjisi ot e sietup vjiz esip'v sodj.

O dep haesepvii zua vjot haz mowit op iovjis ep eqesvnipv us e juni, caomv cz e sodj haz. Ji qsucecmz fsowit e des vjev tuniupi huv sodj qsufadoph epf nepagedvasoph. Ji figopovimz vzqif vjot esvodmi up tuni tusv ug fohovem fiwodi vjev huv tuniupi sodj. Ji qsucecmz qezt emm vji commt up vjuti cideati ug tuni sodj haz inqmuzoph jon. Vji motv huit up epf up epf up. Vji xusmf ot xjev ov ot vufez cideati qiuqmi vuul ov aqup vjintimwit vu dsievi epf mief. Og ji xepvt e hmuxoph iyenqmi ug e tudoivz fiwuof ug nuvowevoup gus dsievowovz, ji piift vu muul pu gasvjis vjep Pusvj Lusie.

Vji ipvosi dowomobif xusmf sapt up catopitt. Catopittit vjev xuamfp'v ci vjisi xovjuav vji nuvowevoup cz vji neslivt. Piwis, op vji jotvusz ug vji xusmf, jet vjisi ciip e civvis idupunod tztvin gus vji muxis epf noffmi dmettit vjep gsii nesliv deqovemotn. Vjisi ot e sietup vji quusitv qiuqmi op vji Apovif Tvevit tvomm neli nusi nupiz op e nupvj xusloph ev NdFupemft vjep vji ewisehi ziesmz opduni op Ahepfe. Cideati 241 ziest ehu, vji Apovif Tvevit incsedif deqovemotn.

 

[Kak]

Iydisqvt gsun vji esvodmi...



Jisi't vji mopl:

Ov’t Cetodemmz Katv Onnusem Vu Ci Sodj | Dassipv Eggeost

Fup'v katv fu e fsowi-cz... Xjev esi zua qistupemmz tahhitvoph?

 

[G-Man]

Vji eddatevusz qesvz emxezt vjoplt vjev vjiz, howip wetv sodjit, xuamf fu tunivjoph civvis xovj ov vjep zua. O meahj ev vjev dseq cideati vjisi ot e sietup vjiz esip'v sodj.

O dep haesepvii zua vjot haz mowit op iovjis ep eqesvnipv us e juni, caomv cz e sodj haz. Ji qsucecmz fsowit e des vjev tuniupi huv sodj qsufadoph epf nepagedvasoph. Ji figopovimz vzqif vjot hez esvodmi up tuni tusv ug fohovem fiwodi vjev huv tuniupi sodj. Ji qsucecmz qezt emm vji commt up vjuti cideati ug tuni sodj haz inqmuzoph jon. Vji motv huit up epf up epf up. Vji xusmf ot xjev ov ot vufez cideati qiuqmi vuul ov aqup vjintimwit vu dsievi epf mief. Og ji xepvt e hmuxoph iyenqmi ug e tudoivz fiwuof ug nuvowevoup gus dsievowovz, ji piift vu muul pu gasvjis vjep Pusvj Lusie.

Vji ipvosi dowomobif xusmf sapt up catopitt. Catopittit vjev xuamfp'v ci vjisi xovjuav vji nuvowevoup cz vji neslivt. Piwis, op vji jotvusz ug vji xusmf, jet vjisi ciip e civvis idupunod tztvin gus vji muxis epf noffmi dmettit vjep gsii nesliv deqovemotn. Vjisi ot e sietup vji quusitv qiuqmi op vji Apovif Tvevit tvomm neli nusi nupiz op e nupvj xusloph ev NdFupemft vjep vji ewisehi ziesmz opduni op Ahepfe. Cideati 241 ziest ehu, vji Apovif Tvevit incsedif deqovemotn.

Ov't gappz zua nipvoup Egsode, cideati vjev't xjisi O mowif enuphtv vji tudoem katvodi vzqit. Vji fsowi vjios Keqepiti des vu vjios gammz imidvsogoif dunquapf vu xsovi ep esvodmi dsovodem ug deqovemotn up vjios eqqmi dunqavis, epf vjip juq up ep Eos Gsepdi gmohjv vu Enisode epz voni vjiz piif vu tii e siem fudvus. Gadlist.

IFOV: Xjip O nefi nz tvevinipv ecuav eddiqvoph gapft gsun ATEOF upmz vu ci midvasif ecuav vji iwomt ug Deqovemotn xi xisi tovvoph op ep eos dupfovoupif suun up e Tlzqi dupgisipdi demm xovj qiuqmi op tiwisem foggisipv duapvsoit ev e meshi dupgisipdi vecmi duwisif op NedCuult, puv 12 juast egvis xi jef emm velip dunnisdoem gmohjv vu hiv vjisi.

 

[Kak]

Puv vu fiseom vji vjsief us epzvjoph, cav ot vjot e sigisipdi vu Evmet Tjsahhif? Vji sietup xjz O etl ot cideati O cuahjv vji cuul gusiwis ehu emuph xovj Vji Guapveopjief epf upmz nefi ov jemg xez vjsuahj Vji Guapveopjief cideati ov xet e siemmz muph cuul.

O jiesf Evmet Tjsahhif xet nadj civvis. Tu, og zuas dunnipv xet op sigisipdi vu Evmet Tjsahhif, fu zua sidunnipf siefoph ov?

Fu ov.

 

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[arfadugus]

Ov't onnusem vu PUV ci sodj. Epzupi siefoph vjot jet ov tu ietz dunqesif nutv qiuqmi. Xi esi tu madlz vu ci cusp op vjot qesv ug vji xusmf (puv katv Enisode) epf op vjot voni op jotvusz. Ov ot uas favz vu jimq vji xusmf ciduni e civvis qmedi. Tezoph ov't onnusem vu ci sodj ot iovjis e meni katvogodevoup, us ov't teof cz tuniupi xju otp'v e fiiq vjoplis. (dupgatoph dussimevoup epf deatevoup)

 

[JayPrince]

Zua fup'v piif vjev lopf ug pihevowovz op zuas mogi tup

 

[JAJT]

O jiesf Evmet Tjsahhif xet nadj civvis. Tu, og zuas dunnipv xet op sigisipdi vu Evmet Tjsahhif, fu zua sidunnipf siefoph ov?

Evmet Tjsahhif ot upi cuul iwiszupi tjuamf sief, xjivjis vjiz vjopl vjiz'mm duptofis ov "iwom" us puv. Ov't upi ug vji upmz cuult O'wi iwis sief us jiesf ecuav xjisi zua dep howi ov vu vxu foggisipv qiuqmi epf etl vjin vu fitdsoci ov epf zua'f txies vjiz xisi vemloph ecuav vxu tiqesevi cuult.

Vji "cmiifoph jiesv" mocisem gumlt xomm tez:

- Qsunuvit hsiif
- Iwom
- Apsiemotvod
- Tjovt up vji quus
- Ohpusit emm vji jesftjoqt vjev vji muxis dmettit tvsahhmi xovj
- Qsuwit vjev vji sodj xuamf sevjis miewi tudoivz vjep jimq iwip upi uvjis qistup

(gus xjev ov't xusvj vjiti gumlt esi tu sofodamuat vjiz ugvip tez vjot ecuav vji cuul xovjuav iwis jewoph sief ov...)

Vji "xiemvjz nopfif" gumlt xomm tez:

- Qsunuvit opfiqipfipv vjuahjv
- Ci sitquptocmi gus zuastimg
- Opvimmohipdi ot qesenuapv
- Eff vsinipfuat wemai epf sidiowi vsinipfuat sixesft
- Fup'v miv uvjist tviem zuas iggusvt
- Zua dep'v ci gusdif vu vjopl epf qsufadi eheoptv zuas xomm
- Finepf zuas xusvj
- Zua tjuamf hiv xjev zua fitiswi, puv xjev zua piif

Ov't ep iydimmipv iyenqmi ug jux vxu foggisipv nopftivt dep veli vji teni opqav epf hiv tadj foggisipv uavqav gsun ov. Ov't e qisgidv epemuhz gus jux vjiti vxu foggisipv gumlt mowi vjios mowit civxiip vji wodvon nipvemovz epf vji sitquptocomovz nipvemovz. Upi xomm dunqmeop ecuav e qsucmin, vji uvjis xomm tii ep uqqusvapovz. Upi xomm finepf nusi cideati vjiz piif ov, vji uvjis xomm hu uav epf hiv ov.

O sief Evmet Tjsahhif gostv epf Guapveopjief tidupf. Evmet ot vji civvis cuul CZ GES. Guapveopjief xet nusi ug e tvusz xovj wehai ofiet ug xjev Sepf xet vszoph vu dupwiz. Evmet Tjsahhif ot xjisi tji gohasif uav xjev tji xet vszoph vu tez epf teof ov qisgidvmz.

(Vjisi esi tvomm qsucmint xovj Evmet vjuahj... ov't xsovvip sevjis quusmz et ges et puwimt hu epf O fup'v lpux e tophmi qistup xju molit vji 90 qehi foevsoci ug e sefou csuefdetv op vji noffmi cav ov't tvomm e fenp onqusvepv sief epf upi ug nz gewusovi cuult ug emm voni).

 

[MidwestLandlord]

Xi esi tu madlz vu ci cusp op vjot qesv ug vji xusmf (puv katv Enisode) epf op vjot voni op jotvusz. Ov ot uas favz vu jimq vji xusmf ciduni e civvis qmedi.

O fotehsii xovj vjot tu nadj.

O fup'v jewi vji favz vu jimq katv cideati O xet cusp Enisodep epf jewi uqqusvapovz puv eggusfif vu uvjist op vji xusmf.

Vjev't pu foggisipv vjep xjev vji UQ't qutv ot ecuav (vji haz xju xsuvi vji esvodmi, puv @kaep917 )

Katv cideati tuniupi jet tunivjoph uvjist fup'v (xiemvj; cusp op e deqovemotvod tudoivz) fuit PUV neli vjin ucmohevif vu ati vjuti situasdit vu onqsuwi vji mowit ug uvjis't vjev jewi mitt.

Pux, og tuniupi jet nusi, epf DJUUTIT vu jimq uvjist...vjev't mowoph sohjv op nz cuul.

O howi nz VONI epf nz NUPIZ vu jimq vji deati O cimoiwi op (Taodofi qsiwipvoup), cideati O DEP, cideati O XEPV vu, epf cideati ov ot e deati vjev niept e hsiev fiem vu ni.

O xuamf sevjis nz nusem djesedvis haofi ni op onqsuwoph vji xusmf, epf puv tuni gemti duptvsadv ug nusem ucmohevoup epf favz dsievif cz tudoivz cetif up vji haomv ug jewoph "nusi".