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Is my business model moral

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Wazzagilliams

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Hi,

I have been getting pissed off with my misses giving me a hard time lately about my business saying I am lying as I am not doing the actual work. It is very frustrating as I work for myself and enjoy doing so. My website is a service business but I outsource the work abroad , this allows me to make more money and work on another fast lane website I am growing. My GF says I am misleading people because I am not doing the actual work. I disagree as I created the website and project manage the work I manage to land. Just wanted to get people's views on this ?

Cheers
 
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Of course it is moral. Is it immoral if the sales person of a huge company gets a client and someone else within the company does the actual work? Does she not realize that this is how a lot of service businesses operate?


Edit: I would like to add: If clients are happy with the work provided, it is even more reason why this shouldn't be an issue.
 

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Ask her how she feels about getting a second job so you can start over with a new business. See if her opinion changes.

>)

Hard for us to say if you're lying to people or not. Outsourcing is one thing. If you directly tell clients you personally are doing the work, but you outsource, then yes, that would be a lie.
 

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Of course it is moral. Is it immoral if the sales person of a huge company gets a client and someone else within the company does the actual work? Does she not realize that this is how a lot of service businesses operate?


Edit: I would like to add: If clients are happy with the work provided, it is even more reason why this shouldn't be an issue.


Ha! That is exactly what I said to her. The client pay me because I have given them a great service. Thanks for your reply , she was making me feel guilty about my own business !
 
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Ask her how she feels about getting a second job so you can start over with a new business. See if her opinion changes.

>)

Hard for us to say if you're lying to people or not. Outsourcing is one thing. If you directly tell clients you personally are doing the work, but you outsource, then yes, that would be a lie.

I don't say I am doing the work as such I just prepare the quotes and manage the work that comes in , attend meetings then email over finished work. So I do some of the work but not the main bulk. I am having a bad day today and when the misses starts giving me shit about a business you can see growing it makes you think am I being misleading.
 

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I don't say I am doing the work as such I just prepare the quotes and manage the work that comes in , attend meetings then email over finished work. So I do some of the work but not the main bulk. I am having a bad day today and when the misses starts giving me shit about a business you can see growing it makes you think am I being misleading.

I mean, you're basically describing what an agency does. As long as you aren't misleading or misrepresenting, you're fine.
 

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I have been getting pissed off with my misses giving me a hard time lately about my business saying I am lying as I am not doing the actual work. It is very frustrating as I work for myself and enjoy doing so. My website is a service business but I outsource the work abroad , this allows me to make more money and work on another fast lane website I am growing. My GF says I am misleading people because I am not doing the actual work. I disagree as I created the website and project manage the work I manage to land. Just wanted to get people's views on this ?
I would explain to your wife, where ever she works at herself is doing the same thing. She's the outsource. She's working for them and they're not actually doing the work. So maybe that will help her understand. Use different examples: Hospital outsource: Nurses and Doctors come in and do in surgeries and health care. Banks pay people to take in cash. If she doesn't get the concept, I would just ignore her. It's everywhere in society. The reporter writes articles for the local newspaper. The owner is never actually doing all the work.
 

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I would explain to your wife, where ever she works at herself is doing the same thing. She's the outsource. She's working for them and they're not actually doing the work. So maybe that will help her understand. Use different examples: Hospital outsource: Nurses and Doctors come in and do in surgeries and health care. Banks pay people to take in cash. If she doesn't get the concept, I would just ignore her. It's everywhere in society. The reporter writes articles for the local newspaper. The owner is never actually doing all the work.
I concur , I said to her where do you think they build the iPhone you are holding!
 
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If she ain't supportive, she's holding you back.

This.

If she's got a legitimate concern, great. Good feedback for you.

If she doesn't have a legitimate concern though, then the concern itself is just a way for her to express her feelings. It's her feelings towards it that are the real issue.

You'll know how she really feels if she makes up more complaints/comments.

"You know, Becky's boyfriend just got a really good paying stable job"

"Sometimes I think all you care about is money"

Be careful of the amount of mental energy you end up spending with an unsupportive romantic partner. Just creating this thread is already a lot of spent mental energy. So is "feeling guilty"

Women are abundant.

(be careful taking relationship advice from anonymous internet strangers though too haha)
 

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This.

If she's got a legitimate concern, great. Good feedback for you.

If she doesn't have a legitimate concern though, then the concern itself is just a way for her to express her feelings. It's her feelings towards it that are the real issue.

You'll know how she really feels if she makes up more complaints/comments.

"You know, Becky's boyfriend just got a really good paying stable job"

"Sometimes I think all you care about is money"

Be careful of the amount of mental energy you end up spending with an unsupportive romantic partner. Just creating this thread is already a lot of spent mental energy. So is "feeling guilty"

Women are abundant.

(be careful taking relationship advice from anonymous internet strangers though too haha)


Haha you make some good points.... I think she stated last night 'all you care about is money!'

I probably do , I didn't start my own biz with the intention to be poor LOL!

Its time to consider whether I go forward with my girlfriend or hans solo... Life is pain in the arse sometimes!

Ah well could be worse , I could have a job !
 

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I think she stated last night 'all you care about is money!'

Well, at one point all I really did care about was money. I heard those words too, but she was right.

Make sure you know yourself well enough to know whether her concerns are legit or not...ya know?
 
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Well, at one point all I really did care about was money. I heard those words too, but she was right.

Make sure you know yourself well enough to know whether her concerns are legit or not...ya know?


That's the hardest thing , trying to know yourself without influence from others. I am getting better and working it out as I get older.
 

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She doesn't need to know what your doing in my opinion. Sometimes the people we love the most are the ones that are the most negative. Either get a thicker skin or quit putting your business out there.

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Hi,

I have been getting pissed off with my misses giving me a hard time lately about my business saying I am lying as I am not doing the actual work. It is very frustrating as I work for myself and enjoy doing so. My website is a service business but I outsource the work abroad , this allows me to make more money and work on another fast lane website I am growing. My GF says I am misleading people because I am not doing the actual work. I disagree as I created the website and project manage the work I manage to land. Just wanted to get people's views on this ?

Cheers
Lol, my gf says..
 
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Yes. This is how real business works. You leverage time and resources. That is how organizations function. At the end of the day you are still responsible for the deliverables. Hell, I would try to get as many customers as humanly possible with a model like that.

Does the guy who owns a construction company build all the homes?

Does the CEO of United Airlines fly all the planes? Any planes?

Does the CEO of GM build any cars?
 
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It's perfectly fine. You're providing both sides a service. One side gets work without having to sell themselves. The other gets work done without having to worry about extra quality control.

It's win win. Perfectly moral. Your girlfriend has some misconceptions about business and how it works.
 

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