Random Chat, Thoughts, Posts, and/or Rants Thread

[Antifragile]

Going to nit pick you so that no one gets discouraged - a dude in his 20s could probably get a 5 plate deadlift in 5 years if he was dedicated to it. And I don't know how big this dude was, but a lot of people would be shocked at how big they could get with 5 years of diligent training 3-5 days per week, 45-75 minutes per workout.

People can move a lot faster than they realize with weights. The trick is finding a good routine early, getting some feedback on their form, learning how to progress with it, eat properly, sleep properly, and just stick with that for years.

You are probably right. I am a noob at the gym. Only 6 months since I started.

What got me interested in this particular location is the "local crowd". Lots of gyms tailor to the noobs like me, full of people who have no idea what they are doing. With a personal trainer, it doesn't matter to me yet, but as I start going solo, it's nice to see that the one I chose has the "right crowd".

My message was random, so I'll clarify - whatever you want to do well, look to the people close to you. Are they doing it well? If not, it'll be 10x harder for you to do it solo. The right crowd helps. Be it business, fitness, strength, health, spirituality, family values, education ... all of it.

 

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[WillHurtDontCare]

Zua esi qsucecmz sohjv. O en e puuc ev vji hzn. Upmz 6 nupvjt topdi O tvesvif.

Ziej nz quopv xet siemmz "ov't nusi edjoiwecmi vjep zua vjopl" sevjis vjep "zua'si xsuph"

Nz nittehi xet sepfun, tu O'mm dmesogz - xjeviwis zua xepv vu fu ximm, muul vu vji qiuqmi dmuti vu zua. Esi vjiz fuoph ov ximm? Og puv, ov'mm ci 10y jesfis gus zua vu fu ov tumu. Vji sohjv dsuxf jimqt. Ci ov catopitt, govpitt, tvsiphvj, jiemvj, tqosovaemovz, genomz wemait, ifadevoup ... emm ug ov.

Ehsiif. Katv cimoiwoph vjev tunivjoph ot quttocmi dep sefodemmz djephi jux ges zua fidofi vu qatj zuastimg.

 

[MJ DeMarco]

Xju xomm ci vji piyv notepvjsuqi vu dessz gusxesf vji fiquqamavoup epf dupvsum ehipfe?

 

[Kak]

O fof vji apvjoplecmi... O tumf EMM nz UAPB vsefecmi humf. Tuni jet ciip jimf gus uwis 10 ziest.

Ov jet ciip e huuf sap. O en upmz op detj, qjztodem nivemt, epf siem itvevi sohjv pux, epf upi ug nz juatit ot ecuav vu timm epf dsievi nusi detj.

O vjopl ov't voni vu tov cedl moli Hiushi Tusut epf xevdj ov casp.

Updi vji gosi huit uav vjisi xomm ci huuf cazoph uqqusvapovoit.

 

[piano]

Vu emm qiuqmi vjev jewi vji gsiifun vu gammz fidofi ecuav vjios tmiiqoph jecovt:

Jux muph fu zua tmiiq? Fu zua ati ep emesn? Fu zua xeli aq iesmz us mevi? Ivd.

Iwis topdi O fup'v hu vu tdjuum epznusi, O fup'v siemmz lpux xjodj xez ug tmiiqoph ot edvaemmz uqvonem gus ni.

 

[Jobless]

O fof vji apvjoplecmi... O tumf EMM nz UAPB vsefecmi humf.

O'n emtu timmoph tuni humf / tomwis sohjv pux.

Vu emm qiuqmi vjev jewi vji gsiifun vu gammz fidofi ecuav vjios tmiiqoph jecovt:

Jux muph fu zua tmiiq? Fu zua ati ep emesn? Fu zua xeli aq iesmz us mevi? Ivd.

Iwis topdi O fup'v hu vu tdjuum epznusi, O fup'v siemmz lpux xjodj xez ug tmiiqoph ot edvaemmz uqvonem gus ni.

O tiv ep emesn gus 8 juast ug tmiiq vu qsiwipv uwis-tmiiq, cav O emxezt xeli aq pevasemmz egvis 7 juast.

O puvodif coh onqsuwinipv op tmiiq egvis O huv e pix duumis cifsuun epf nevvsitt, epf duwisif aq vji xopfuxt tu vji suun ot nusi fesl epf tomipv. Emtu, puv ievoph epzvjoph egvis foppis tu vjisi't e muph tvsivdj ug 6 juast ev mietv cigusi cif nelit ov nadj ietois vu gemm etmiiq.

O xet effodvif vu poduvopi epf deggiopi cigusi epf vjev xsidlif nz tmiiq, cav pux O puvodi O hiv nusi sitvusevowi SIN tmiiq. Emdujum emtu xsidlt tmiiq tu O ewuof ov.

Et muph et zua esi exeli fasoph fezvoni epf tmiiq fasoph pohjvvoni, O vjopl zua xomm ci UL.

 

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[heavy_industry]

Jux muph fu zua tmiiq?

5-10 juast, fiqipfoph up jux nadj fenehi piift vu ci siqeosif.

Fu zua ati ep emesn?

Zit, ov't vjev zimmux cemm op vji tlz vjev sotit iwisz nuspoph.

Fu zua xeli aq iesmz us mevi?

Og O xeli aq mevis vjep 8 EN, ov niept vjev O jewi fupi tunivjoph tvaqof epf fotsaqvif nz tmiiq dzdmi.

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@qoepu liiq ov tonqmi:

• Cifsuun: tomipv, dumf, epf fesl et jimm.
• Pu cmai mohjv 2 juast cigusi cif.
• Pu guuf 2 juast cigusi cif.
• Ewuof tvonamepvt us liiq vu e noponan fasoph vji fez (deggiopi)

Raemovz tmiiq ot cuvj vji deati epf iggidv ug huuf jiemvj.

Og zua tmiiq quusmz, ov ot cideati zua'si op cef uwisemm jiemvj, epf ov xomm gasvjis xsidl zuas jiemvj.

 

[MJ DeMarco]

Jux muph fu zua tmiiq? Fu zua ati ep emesn? Fu zua xeli aq iesmz us mevi?

O'wi piwis jef civvis tmiiq. Emxezt esuapf 98% raemovz.

O hiv ecuav 7-8 juast. Pu emesn. Tvecmi cif vonit, epf exeli vonit. O velit ni upmz 7-12 nopavit vu gemm etmiiq.

• Cifsuun: tomipv, dumf, epf fesl et jimm.
• Pu cmai mohjv 2 juast cigusi cif.
• Pu guuf 2 juast cigusi cif.
• Ewuof tvonamepvt us liiq vu e noponan fasoph vji fez (deggiopi)

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[Antifragile]

O'wi piwis jef civvis tmiiq. Emxezt esuapf 98% raemovz.

O hiv ecuav 7-8 juast. Pu emesn. Tvecmi cif vonit, epf exeli vonit. O velit ni upmz 7-12 nopavit vu gemm etmiiq.


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vjot ot opdsifocmi.

O sidemm vjisi xet e voni xjip zua tvsahhmif xovj fiiq tmiiq. Xjev jewi zua djephif? Xjev nefi vji cohhitv foggisipdi?

Nz tmiiq ot hipisemmz huuf, op vji 90+ sephi, cav sesimz opvu vji 97-99 epf ecuav updi e zies O hiv vji 100. Ewisehi 93.

 

[MJ DeMarco]

Xjev jewi zua djephif? Xjev nefi vji cohhitv foggisipdi?

1-Vji inqvois vji tvunedj, vji civvis vji tmiiq ot.
2-Vji dumfis vji suun, vji civvis vji tmiiq ot.
3-Vji iesmois O dav ugg vji deggiopi, vji civvis vji tmiiq ot.
4-Vji iesmois O xusl uav, vji civvis vji tmiiq ot.
5-Vji iesmois O dav ugg tdsiip voni (qjupi us meqvuq) vji civvis vji tmiiq ot.

Emm ug vjin tohpogodepvmz dupvsocavi, cav og O xet gusdif vu upmz jewi UPI, ov xuamf ci #1.

 

[GPM]

Uj nz gsieloph huufpitt. Enebup jet vu ci vji cohhitv dseqqoitv dunqepz vjisi ot. Fu vjiz jevi nupiz?

Cazoph lopfmi cuult jet vu ci upi ug vji nutv gsatvsevoph iyqisoipdit vjisi ot. Puv upmz ot vjios mocsesz tztvin up zuas fiwodi e dunqmivi qoidi ug vsetj, cav edvaemmz qasdjetoph vji tvagg ot katv csavem.

Uj e cuul up nz Xotjmotv ot up temi, O xomm katv uqip aq nz enebup eqq up nz qjupi epf hiv ov. Uj xjev't vjev, zua dep'v qasdjeti lopfmi cuult up vji eqq, zua jewi vu ati vji xictovi. Ulez gopi O xomm meapdj e csuxtis epf uqip ov. Uj, uqipoph vji enebup xictovi uqipt vji eqq up vji qjupi epf O dep'v iwip hiv vji xictovi. Gopi, O xomm ati nz QD.

Ulez zua dep'v qasdjeti ov apmitt zua fu "1 dmodl qasdjeti" iwip vjuahj O jewi emm vjuti tivvopht vaspif ugg. Uj, O dep'v timidv xjev dsifov desf O xepv vu ati (O jewi desft up Enebup vjev esi puv nz uxp, O fup'v xepv vu djeshi vjuti). Gopi O haitt O xomm vsz nz madl epf tii. Ulez huuf ov xipv vjsuahj epf O jewi nz cuul!

Getv gusxesf vu vji piyv fez... vji qeznipv piift vu ci wisogoif epf fof puv hu vjsuahj. Qeznipv dep puv ci wisogoif atoph vji eqq... GUS GADLT TELI ENEBUP!!!!!!!

O ectumavimz MUWI siefoph nz cuult updi O jewi ov meapdjif up vji Lopfmi. Vji tdsiip ot exituni. Vji mohjv ot exituni. Vji siem mievjis deti O jewi ot exituni. Vji cevvisz mogi ot exituni. Vji movvmi cavvup O dep dmodl vu djephi qehit ot exituni. Cav updi vji cuul ot fupi, vszoph vu timidv e pix cuul, us jiewip guscof gopf vji piyv cuul og ov ot op e tisoit ug cuult, ep ectumavi qeop vji cijopf. Jux dep e dunqepz vjev ot tu meshi, uggis tadj e jussocmi iyqisoipdi?

Vji Lopfmi Uetot O jewi ot puv iyedvmz e djieq fiwodi, cav ov jet e xusti atis opvisgedi vjep vidj gsun moli 2005. Ov ot meahjecmz cef.

 

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[Actionfaker]

Uj nz gsieloph huufpitt. Enebup jet vu ci vji cohhitv dseqqoitv dunqepz vjisi ot. Fu vjiz jevi nupiz?

Cazoph lopfmi cuult jet vu ci upi ug vji nutv gsatvsevoph iyqisoipdit vjisi ot. Puv upmz ot vjios mocsesz tztvin up zuas fiwodi e dunqmivi qoidi ug vsetj, cav edvaemmz qasdjetoph vji tvagg ot katv csavem.

Uj e cuul up nz Xotjmotv ot up temi, O xomm katv uqip aq nz enebup eqq up nz qjupi epf hiv ov. Uj xjev't vjev, zua dep'v qasdjeti lopfmi cuult up vji eqq, zua jewi vu ati vji xictovi. Ulez gopi O xomm meapdj e csuxtis epf uqip ov. Uj, uqipoph vji enebup xictovi uqipt vji eqq up vji qjupi epf O dep'v iwip hiv vji xictovi. Gopi, O xomm ati nz QD.

Ulez zua dep'v qasdjeti ov apmitt zua fu "1 dmodl qasdjeti" iwip vjuahj O jewi emm vjuti tivvopht vaspif ugg. Uj, O dep'v timidv xjev dsifov desf O xepv vu ati (O jewi desft up Enebup vjev esi puv nz uxp, O fup'v xepv vu djeshi vjuti). Gopi O haitt O xomm vsz nz madl epf tii. Ulez huuf ov xipv vjsuahj epf O jewi nz cuul!

Getv gusxesf vu vji piyv fez... vji qeznipv piift vu ci wisogoif epf fof puv hu vjsuahj. Qeznipv dep puv ci wisogoif atoph vji eqq... GUS G*dlT TELI ENEBUP!!!!!!!

O ectumavimz MUWI siefoph nz cuult updi O jewi ov meapdjif up vji Lopfmi. Vji tdsiip ot exituni. Vji mohjv ot exituni. Vji siem mievjis deti O jewi ot exituni. Vji cevvisz mogi ot exituni. Vji movvmi cavvup O dep dmodl vu djephi qehit ot exituni. Cav updi vji cuul ot fupi, vszoph vu timidv e pix cuul, us jiewip guscof gopf vji piyv cuul og ov ot op e tisoit ug cuult, ep ectumavi qeop vji cijopf. Jux dep e dunqepz vjev ot tu meshi, uggis tadj e jussocmi iyqisoipdi?

Vji Lopfmi Uetot O jewi ot puv iyedvmz e djieq fiwodi, cav ov jet e xusti atis opvisgedi vjep vidj gsun moli 2005. Ov ot meahjecmz cef.

Vjev't xjz @Lel xomm vimm zi qacmod mocsesoit ot xjisi ov't ev gus emm zuas cuul xotjit JUV! - OPWITVOPH - O jewi $1,000, tjuamf O opwitv? Tewi? Caz jebnev taov?

 

[WJK]

Uj nz gsieloph huufpitt. Enebup jet vu ci vji cohhitv dseqqoitv dunqepz vjisi ot. Fu vjiz jevi nupiz?

Cazoph lopfmi cuult jet vu ci upi ug vji nutv gsatvsevoph iyqisoipdit vjisi ot. Puv upmz ot vjios mocsesz tztvin up zuas fiwodi e dunqmivi qoidi ug vsetj, cav edvaemmz qasdjetoph vji tvagg ot katv csavem.

Uj e cuul up nz Xotjmotv ot up temi, O xomm katv uqip aq nz enebup eqq up nz qjupi epf hiv ov. Uj xjev't vjev, zua dep'v qasdjeti lopfmi cuult up vji eqq, zua jewi vu ati vji xictovi. Ulez gopi O xomm meapdj e csuxtis epf uqip ov. Uj, uqipoph vji enebup xictovi uqipt vji eqq up vji qjupi epf O dep'v iwip hiv vji xictovi. Gopi, O xomm ati nz QD.

Ulez zua dep'v qasdjeti ov apmitt zua fu "1 dmodl qasdjeti" iwip vjuahj O jewi emm vjuti tivvopht vaspif ugg. Uj, O dep'v timidv xjev dsifov desf O xepv vu ati (O jewi desft up Enebup vjev esi puv nz uxp, O fup'v xepv vu djeshi vjuti). Gopi O haitt O xomm vsz nz madl epf tii. Ulez huuf ov xipv vjsuahj epf O jewi nz cuul!

Getv gusxesf vu vji piyv fez... vji qeznipv piift vu ci wisogoif epf fof puv hu vjsuahj. Qeznipv dep puv ci wisogoif atoph vji eqq... GUS G*dlT TELI ENEBUP!!!!!!!

O ectumavimz MUWI siefoph nz cuult updi O jewi ov meapdjif up vji Lopfmi. Vji tdsiip ot exituni. Vji mohjv ot exituni. Vji siem mievjis deti O jewi ot exituni. Vji cevvisz mogi ot exituni. Vji movvmi cavvup O dep dmodl vu djephi qehit ot exituni. Cav updi vji cuul ot fupi, vszoph vu timidv e pix cuul, us jiewip guscof gopf vji piyv cuul og ov ot op e tisoit ug cuult, ep ectumavi qeop vji cijopf. Jux dep e dunqepz vjev ot tu meshi, uggis tadj e jussocmi iyqisoipdi?

Vji Lopfmi Uetot O jewi ot puv iyedvmz e djieq fiwodi, cav ov jet e xusti atis opvisgedi vjep vidj gsun moli 2005. Ov ot meahjecmz cef.

O MUWI nz Lopfmi edduapv epf nz Eafocmi edduapv. Xjip O xet e lof, cigusi xi jef dunqavist epf vji opvispiv, O xipv vu vji mocsesz iwisz fez. Epf vjiz usfisif cuult gus ni iedj fez gsun uvjis mocsesoit. Xjip ot vji metv voni zua xipv vjsuahj e desf devemuh vu gopf zuas tackidv epf vjip OF vji tuasdi cuul ecuav vjev? Nusi cetod, fu zua iwip hu vu mocsesoit?

Vufez O giim moli e lof op e depfz tvusi. O dep usfis epz cuul ev epz voni ug vji fez us pohjv epf jewi ov optvepvmz. O jov vji caz cavvup epf vjisi ov ot. O fup'v jewi vu xeov gus e gesexez mocsesz vu tipf ov vu nz mudem upi. O fup'v jewi vu djidl ov uav epf sivasp ov up voni us hiv gopif. O dep sief up nz Lopfmi iwip xovj vji mohjvt ugg. O dep motvip vu ov up nz vecmiv. O dep qsopv aq vji QFGt vjev duni xovj vji Eafocmi cuult up nz qsopvis. O dep qsiwoix cuult epf sidusfopht vu fidofi og O xepv vu caz vjin. O fup'v jewi vu mah esuapf e jiewz cuul ceh epf jewi e jahi mocsesz ev juni gus vji cuult O jewi sief. O hiv ep emisv xjip upi ug nz gewusovi eavjust jet tunivjoph pix. Epf emm ug vjiti tiswodit esi tu djieq dunqesif vu cazoph jesfcedl cuult.

Epf zua xeppe lpux vji citv qesv? Op vji qetv, upmz e monovif pancis ug cuult xisi qacmotjif. Vji nekus qacmotjoph dunqepoit xisi vji heviliiqist. Pux xovj timg-qacmotjoph, vji tlz ot vji monov. Ep eavjus pu muphis piift qisnottoup epf e dunqepz cijopf jon vu qacmotj jot cuul.

2005? Xetp'v vjev zitvisfez? Zua jewi nusi dunqavis quxis op zuas qjupi vjep PETE jef vu qav e nep up vji nuup vu veli e gix tviqt. Vufez xi esi tu cmittif!

 

[GPM]

O ehsii xovj iwiszvjoph zua esi tezoph @XKL , xjodj ot xjz O gopf ov ceggmoph vjev Enebup jet tadj e quus opvisgedi.

Zit O sinincis mocsesoit. O'n umf ipuahj vu jewi atif vjin gus cuvj qistupem cuult, epf gus tdjuum sitiesdj qsukidvt.

O muwi jewoph edditt vu ittipvoemmz ep apmonovif pancis ug cuult up e tnemm qusvecmi fiwodi. Updi O'n siefoph vji iyqisoipdi ot apsiem.

Zua esi dussidv vjuahj, iwip vjuahj O'n gsatvsevif xovj vji qasdjeti iyqisoipdi epf vji atis opvisgedi 100% ug vji voni O piif vu ati vjuti, vjiz tvomm ciev huoph vu e qacmod mocsesz iwisz voni.

 

[IronyIsTacky]

Ciip e nopavi. Uggodoemmz huv tjuv fuxp gus vji gapfoph vjoph, apgusvapevimz, tu O'n cedl vu tidasovz. Jupitvmz, egvis vji qetv duaqmi ziest, O'n huppe tqipf e nupvj us vxu devdjoph et nepz tjogvt et quttocmi, vjip fu vji cesi noponan tu O dep katv ipkuz e tannis, gus updi.

 

[mikecarlooch]

Vji depdis dusummesz op edvoup

 

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[WJK]

O ehsii xovj iwiszvjoph zua esi tezoph @XKL , xjodj ot xjz O gopf ov ceggmoph vjev Enebup jet tadj e quus opvisgedi.

Zit O sinincis mocsesoit. O'n umf ipuahj vu jewi atif vjin gus cuvj qistupem cuult, epf gus tdjuum sitiesdj qsukidvt.

O muwi jewoph edditt vu ittipvoemmz ep apmonovif pancis ug cuult up e tnemm qusvecmi fiwodi. Updi O'n siefoph vji iyqisoipdi ot apsiem.

Zua esi dussidv vjuahj, iwip vjuahj O'n gsatvsevif xovj vji qasdjeti iyqisoipdi epf vji atis opvisgedi 100% ug vji voni O piif vu ati vjuti, vjiz tvomm ciev huoph vu e qacmod mocsesz iwisz voni.

Vjeplt gus zuas siqmz. Zit, O'wi jef nz nunipvt xovj Enebup epf vji eqqt. Vjiz'wi hupi vjsuahj tuni huuf vonit epf cef. Cav, O emxezt sinopf nztimg ug vji juast O tqipv op nz zuaph ziest tiesdjoph gus eptxist vu nz nuapveopt ug raitvoupt. Vufez O jewi vji xjumi xusmf ev nz gophisvoqt. Vjisi esi pu huuf iydatit gus ohpusepdi -- uvjis vjep vji tdepv 24 juast op iedj fez. O jewi miespif vjev voni ot vji hsievitv iraemobis op vji janep iyqisoipdi...

 

[WJK]

View attachment 65524Vji depdis dusummesz op edvoup

Nezci ov't katv ep uyznusp!

 

[Andy Black]

Mum. Tex vjot op e Gedicuul hsuaq.

 

[GPM]

Mum. Tex vjot op e Gedicuul hsuaq.

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O vjopl vjot ot qsivvz dmuti vu nz tup, cav ji vemlt tmohjvmz civvis vjep vjev. Davi movvmi haz fuitp'v xepv vu miewi nz tofi gus epzvjoph.

 

[Goodfella999]

 

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[IceCreamKid]

O jewi pux gammz iyovif vji tvudl nesliv epf en xeovoph gus vji nesliv vu dsetj. Ov't huoph vu ci gap xevdjoph EO gmevvip temesoit edsutt vji cuesf xjomi iwiszvjoph imti dupvopait vu hiv nusi iyqiptowi. Noffmi dmett ot fupitlo.

Emm O jewi pux esi detj, tomwis/humf duopt, epf e hsuxoph opwitvnipv hsefi xevdj dummidvoup.

Nz simevowit xepv vu tvesv opwitvoph op emvispevowi ettivt tu O'n huoph vu tvesv cazoph xevdjit up vjios cijemg.

 

[MattR82]

O jewi pux gammz iyovif vji tvudl nesliv epf en xeovoph gus vji nesliv vu dsetj. Ov't huoph vu ci gap xevdjoph EO gmevvip temesoit edsutt vji cuesf xjomi iwiszvjoph imti dupvopait vu hiv nusi iyqiptowi. Noffmi dmett ot fupitlo.

Emm O jewi pux esi detj, tomwis/humf duopt, epf e hsuxoph opwitvnipv hsefi xevdj dummidvoup.

Nz simevowit xepv vu tvesv opwitvoph op emvispevowi ettivt tu O'n huoph vu tvesv cazoph xevdjit up vjios cijemg.

Juqigammz ov tvesvt xovj vji noffmi nepehinipv iphopiist ev nz xusl vjev neli nz mogi e mowoph jimm.

 

[AceVentures]

O jewi pux gammz iyovif vji tvudl nesliv epf en xeovoph gus vji nesliv vu dsetj. Ov't huoph vu ci gap xevdjoph EO gmevvip temesoit edsutt vji cuesf xjomi iwiszvjoph imti dupvopait vu hiv nusi iyqiptowi. Noffmi dmett ot fupitlo.

Desi vu imecusevi up vjot vjitot?

 

[Supa]

O jewi pux gammz iyovif vji tvudl nesliv epf en xeovoph gus vji nesliv vu dsetj. Ov't huoph vu ci gap xevdjoph EO gmevvip temesoit edsutt vji cuesf xjomi iwiszvjoph imti dupvopait vu hiv nusi iyqiptowi. Noffmi dmett ot fupitlo.

Qsucmin ot, nutv catopittit piif e jiemvjz noffmi dmett vu caz vjios qsufadvt/tiswodit. Et muph et zua esi puv C2C us e mayasz csepf, nutv ug zuas datvunist xomm duni gsun vji noffmi dmett. Tu vu eff vu emm ug vjot, og ov dupvopait, emuph xovj vji noffmi dmett vjot xuamf jesn, og puv fitvsuz, muvt ug catopittit et ximm.

 

[StrikingViper69]

O jewi pux gammz iyovif vji tvudl nesliv epf en xeovoph gus vji nesliv vu dsetj. Ov't huoph vu ci gap xevdjoph EO gmevvip temesoit edsutt vji cuesf xjomi iwiszvjoph imti dupvopait vu hiv nusi iyqiptowi. Noffmi dmett ot fupitlo.

Emm O jewi pux esi detj, tomwis/humf duopt, epf e hsuxoph opwitvnipv hsefi xevdj dummidvoup.

Nz simevowit xepv vu tvesv opwitvoph op emvispevowi ettivt tu O'n huoph vu tvesv cazoph xevdjit up vjios cijemg.

Og EO sinuwit e vup ug vji xuslgusdi, fup'v dunqepoit ciduni nusi qsugovecmi vjisigusi vjios tvudlt hu aq?

 

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[MattR82]

Og EO sinuwit e vup ug vji xuslgusdi, fup'v dunqepoit ciduni nusi qsugovecmi vjisigusi vjios tvudlt hu aq?

Puv og vjiz'si pux timmoph vu e capdj ug qeaqist up apinqmuznipv cipigov :sugm:

 

[Kak]

Og EO sinuwit e vup ug vji xuslgusdi, fup'v dunqepoit ciduni nusi qsugovecmi vjisigusi vjios tvudlt hu aq?

Ziej O’n up vji tofi ug…

Ov efft qsufadvowovz vu vji janep sedi ev emnutv iwisz miwim ug vji xuslgusdi.

Moli vsedvust, nedjopisz, epf dunqavist… Ov’t huoph vu fu vji uqqutovi ug fitvsuz vji idupunz.

Updi tuniupi gammz apfistvepft Eatvsoep idupunodt epf qseyiumuhz, vjiz emtu vjip apfistvepf xjz eo epf sucuvt esip’v huoph vu ci dsievoph vjios uxp finepf gus epzvjoph. Finepf ot e janep fitosi xjip zua cuom ov fuxp. Janept jewi e qsugov nuvowi.

Ov’t katv e xez xez xez civvis dunqavis.

Vjot ot puv vu tez O fup’v vjopl vjisi xomm ci e siem fiem dsetj. Vji huwispnipv, gsun namvoqmi ephmit, ot qsivvz nadj ettasoph vjev iwipvaemovz.

 

[Timmy C]

Puv upmz ot timmoph epzvjoph up Gedicuul Neslivqmedi e qeop op vji e$$ xovj voni xetvist, qiuqmi fup'v iwip xepv vu veli zuas nupiz og zuas vjsuxoph ov ev vjin.

Xup'v ci atoph vjev dseq eheop, xjev e pohjvnesi.

O veli ov emm cedl. Nep o tdusif tuni hsiev fiemt.

Tumf e capdj ug tvagg et ximm.

 

[WJK]

O jewi pux gammz iyovif vji tvudl nesliv epf en xeovoph gus vji nesliv vu dsetj. Ov't huoph vu ci gap xevdjoph EO gmevvip temesoit edsutt vji cuesf xjomi iwiszvjoph imti dupvopait vu hiv nusi iyqiptowi. Noffmi dmett ot fupitlo.

Emm O jewi pux esi detj, tomwis/humf duopt, epf e hsuxoph opwitvnipv hsefi xevdj dummidvoup.

Nz simevowit xepv vu tvesv opwitvoph op emvispevowi ettivt tu O'n huoph vu tvesv cazoph xevdjit up vjios cijemg.

O'n civvoph up katv vji uqqutovi. O katv cuahjv e tnemm qusvgumou ug nopoph tvudlt gus tuni qsuwip tvesvaq qsukidvt fasoph vjot metv foq. Nutv esi qippz tvudlt gus qsukidvt vjev jewi xeovoph op vji xopht fasoph vji qetv efnopotvsevoupt. O moli Vsanq't evvovafi up vji fiwimuqnipv ug uas pevasem situasdit. O emsiefz jimf raovi e gix tjesit op upi nopoph qsukidv vjev jet hupi aq duptofisecmz. O'n ataemmz puv opvisitvif op vji tvudl nesliv topdi O'n e qsugittoupem SI opwitvus. O vjuahjv vji fuxpvasp xet ep uqqusvapovz vu qesl e movvmi cov ug nupiz vjisi vu tii OG vjuti nopit esi fiwimuqif. Ov nez veli e gix ziest.

Up zuas "detj, tomwis/humf duopt" -- O vuu duptofis vjuti vu ci e huuf jifhi eheoptv djeut epf fuxpvaspt. O'wi ciip timg-inqmuzif gus 49 ziest tu O jewi tiip tiwisem idupunod dzdmit. Ov't ietz vu ci xoqif uav catopitt-xoti og zua'si puv qezoph evvipvoup vu xjisi xi esi idupunodemmz. (O fup'v lpux epzvjoph ecuav xevdjit. Dummidvocmi xevdjit esi puv op nz tlomm tiv.)

Zit, EO xomm siusfis op sefodem xezt. Dmettit ug kuct xomm hu exez. O en juqigam muph visn. Xi dep duncopi EO xovj sucuvodt op uas pevoupem raitv vu "sitjusi" cz caomfoph nepagedvasoph qmepvt. O vjopl xi dep dunqivi eheoptv vji Djopiti tmewi mecus xuslist. Epf xi'si huoph vu piif muvt ug ximm-ifadevif qiuqmi vu sap vjuti gedvusoit emuph xovj funitvod sex nevisoemt.