[PROGRESS THREAD] Finding "product market fit"

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I was building an education tool for a specific niche, with a problem that I currently struggle with.

I've always wanted to create a progress thread since I started working on this but never got around to it.
Thanks @Andy Black for the advice on LinkedIn! : )

Progress so far:

• Built 3 MVP's so far, all to test if the idea builds interest in people and if they'd want to use it:
  • Started with an MVP that had only 1 functionality. Reached out to friends at first. I wanted to see if they were receptive to the idea
  • They were (Adobe is now implementing this feature for their own website btw).
  • Reached out to a bunch of people and tried getting them to use the MVP
  • They liked it as well and I instantly started building better versions
  • Second MVP, added a bunch of core features that I wanted to test, they had a bunch of feedback and I've been iterating ever since.
  • Third MVP, made the UI better and added a few more features for them that they were happy about. All this with GPT4 because I don't know how to code nor do I like it.

• Learned how to market it myself:
  • I used cold outreach methods through Instagram, Discord to get people to use it.
  • The crazy thing is, and I'm not sure if the people in my niche are just "nice", but i only have about 15-20% rejection/ ignored rate so far.
  • Here's how i cold DM someone:
    1. Compliment them (genuinely, fake feels very obvious!), if you cant genuinely compliment, relate with them.
    2. Show them how you can provide value to their life and what you are working on in the most concise way possible. Most people are busy / lazy and don't want to read 5 paras about what you're up to even if it provides value to them.
    3. Lastly you have 2 options:
       1. If they're someone well known in that niche, ask them for their opinion on it.
       2. If they're anyone else, ask them if they know anyone who may be interested in using it. If they want it, they'll ask, if they don't they'll point you to someone or some group
  • This method has worked wonders for me. I've reached out to well known people within my niche and app developers as well, who have been more than willing to give their insights on it.
  • Just reach out! Most people are willing to help you as long as you provide value through the conversation.
  • Make sure you don't "over-sell" and push them a lot which will leave you on read.

• Figuring out GPT4:
  • I have a feeling most people are still sleeping on this. This is THE BEST tool out there and will help you solve any problem you have
  • How? All you have to do is provide as much context as you can. I mentioned in my other post how I get GPT to answer exactly what I need in this comment. I've used GPT4 entirely to create this app and if you're wondering it wasn't as easy as "build it for me looool"
  • Don't think of it as a machine that does xyz thing, think of it as a clueless robot with unlimited information.
  • Best way I've found to use GPT is to divide and create multiple chats each with context of their own so that it doesn't end up confusing itself (which it does) or forget the context (which it also does and is very annoying), with the added benefit of having it organized.
  • That's how i was able to create multiple features with GPT and then connect it all using python

• Challenges I'm currently facing:
  • Although people have showed interest in the app I realized its just a "nice to have" and doesn't solve a need as such. And if I want product market fit, I have to solve a need.
  • Most people have other means to solve that problem and a user told me its replaceable even if other methods are annoying or awkward (ouch)
  • Haven't got a sale yet so my users don't have "skin in the game"
  • Alot of users say they want something but it just isn't important enough to waste time building and implementing it in the product.
  • Feedback I receive, although very positive, isn't enough for users to keep using it on a repetitive basis.

• Moving forward:
  • I'm tracking down teachers that may find use to this tool and get their insight on it, and maybe even use it for teaching.
  • If its genuinely not useful for anyone else (although it is for me) I will pivot, keep certain features and target a different market that may have more of a use for it.

I won't have weekly updates but I will update whenever I figure out something or have value to provide.
Hope this stuff resonates with you, and I hope you join me on this journey!

 

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[MJ DeMarco]

Duphsevt up hivvoph uav vjisi epf dsievoph tunivjoph vjev qiuqmi xepv!

 

[uhhfeef]

Duphsevt up hivvoph uav vjisi epf dsievoph tunivjoph vjev qiuqmi xepv!

Vjeplt NK! Eqqsidoevi ov.

 

[FreakyThomas]

E muv ug wemai op zuas qsudittit/iyidavoup.Vjeplt e muv gus tjesoph!
Ov ot vsai vjev vu wemofevi zuas piif zua piif vu ucveop tuni tlop op vji heni.
O'n wisz onqsittif vjev zua caomf zuas eqq xovj djev hqv. Qsucecmz xi vuvemmz apfisitvonevi vji quttocmi atit ug vjot eneboph vuum.
Duamf zua jewi caomf ov up uas uxp, xovj zuas uxp dufoph lpuxmifhi?

 

[RightyTighty]

Iydimmipv xusl! Xovj emm zua'wi miespif, ov xup'v ci muph cigusi zua jov upi uwis vji gipdi.
Raitvoup: Jewi zua guapf djevhqv4 e vup civvis vjep djevhqv? O'wi sief dunnipvt vjev hqv ot hivvoph fancis epf O cimoiwi ov. Ov fof tuni neslivoph duqz gus ni e gix nupvjt ehu vjev xet huuf tvagg, cav O vsoif ov sidipvmz epf vji duqz tuapfif moli e dosdat qutvis gus iohjv zies umft.

 

[uhhfeef]

E muv ug wemai op zuas qsudittit/iyidavoup.Vjeplt e muv gus tjesoph!
Ov ot vsai vjev vu wemofevi zuas piif zua piif vu ucveop tuni tlop op vji heni.
O'n wisz onqsittif vjev zua caomf zuas eqq xovj djev hqv. Qsucecmz xi vuvemmz apfisitvonevi vji quttocmi atit ug vjot eneboph vuum.
Duamf zua jewi caomf ov up uas uxp, xovj zuas uxp dufoph lpuxmifhi?

Vjepl zua! Zie qsucecmz.

Cav vu ci jupitv, O xetp'v muuloph vu hiv civvis ev dufi, O xepvif vu caomf e huuf qsufadv epf ovisevi et getv et O dep. HQV jimqif ni fu vjopht raodlmz epf op ep uqvonobif xez, optvief ug josoph tuniupi (epf quvipvoemmz xetvoph nupiz).

O'f moli vu ci ecmi vu fimihevi vjot vu e dufis op vji gavasi cideati O gopf vjev pevasemmz, O vipf vuxesft ofievoup gus qsufadvt epf vjev ot xjev O'n tvsuph ev.

 

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[uhhfeef]

Iydimmipv xusl! Xovj emm zua'wi miespif, ov xup'v ci muph cigusi zua jov upi uwis vji gipdi.
Raitvoup: Jewi zua guapf djevhqv4 e vup civvis vjep djevhqv? O'wi sief dunnipvt vjev hqv ot hivvoph fancis epf O cimoiwi ov. Ov fof tuni neslivoph duqz gus ni e gix nupvjt ehu vjev xet huuf tvagg, cav O vsoif ov sidipvmz epf vji duqz tuapfif moli e dosdat qutvis gus iohjv zies umft.

Vjepl zua, O siemmz eqqsidoevi vjev!

Zit HQV4 op hipisem huv qsivvz "fanc" sidipvmz cav vjiz goyif ov. (Eqqesipvmz, vjiz xisi atoph 3.5 gus mitt "dunqmiy raisoit" epf ov xuamf noy aq epf qsufadi cef sitamvt...cav puv tasi). Ov xet siemmz gsatvsevoph cideati O vsoif iwiszvjoph O duamf vu hiv ep eptxis gsun ov cav ov katv sigatif vu apfistvepf nz raisz.

Cav o fof miesp e muv op vjev qisouf, vjev O dupfiptif epf xsuvi op nz dunnipv.

Ov tiint vu ci xusloph gopi pux epf ov hivt vji kuc fupi. Xjip ov fuitp'v emm zua jewi vu fu ot gummux vjuti tviqt epf caomf iwip nusi dupviyv apvom ov fuit. Puv tasi ecuav katv HQV cideati O fup'v ati ov.

Og epzupi piift ov, jisi't jux O caomv nz NWQ't xovj HQV4. Zua fupv piif vu ati emm, katv xjev ot pidittesz:

• Sumiqmez et [___]
• Jisi ot nz ettanqvoup
• Jisi ot nz qsucmin
• Jisi ot nz tumavoup vu vji qsucmin
• Jisi ot xjev O xepv vu fu xovj vjot tumavoup
• Jisi ot xju O vjopl vji veshiv eafoipdi ot
• Xjev dep O fu vu tumwi tu epf tu qsucmin O'n gedoph dassipvmz (xovjop vjot dupviyv)
• Cigusi zua tipf epzvjoph, etl ni og zua jewi epz raitvoupt (qistupem gewuasovi)

 

[RightyTighty]

O apfistvepf vjev zuas raisz cidunit qesv ug vji feveceti atif gus vji piyv haz't eptxis. Gus vjot sietup O'wi ewuofif raisoit vjev opdmafi tqidogodt up nz oppuwevoupt. Ov eqqiest vjev zua jewi fupi tu; fuit vjot dupdisp zua?

 

[uhhfeef]

O apfistvepf vjev zuas raisz cidunit qesv ug vji feveceti atif gus vji piyv haz't eptxis. Gus vjot sietup O'wi ewuofif raisoit vjev opdmafi tqidogodt up nz oppuwevoupt. Ov eqqiest vjev zua jewi fupi tu; fuit vjot dupdisp zua?

O siemmz fupv desi.

O'n atoph ov et O piif tonomes vu jux zua xuamf ati huuhmi cetif up xjev zua piif. Fu zua vjopl Huuhmi otp'v liiqoph vsedl? Xuamf zua tvuq atoph Huuhmi et ximm?

Og zua'si dupdispif ecuav ofiet cioph tvumip, fup'v xussz zua'si puv vji upmz upi vjoploph ug vjin cav zua duamf ci vji gostv xju edvaemmz gummuxt vjsuahj xovj ov.

 

[RightyTighty]

Vjeplt gus zuas sitqupti. O ehsii vjev iyidavoup ataemmz vsanqt ep PFE. Epf O’n tasi vjev Huuhmi ot muuloph uwis nz tjuamfis, cav O fup’v vjopl ov ot qatjoph nz raisoit vu uvjist moli hqv ot. Gsun xjev O’wi sief vji sotl ettudoevif xovj zuas OQ edvaemmz hivvoph fottinopevif ot tactvepvoemmz hsievis xovj hqv.

 

[journeyman]

Tuapft moli hsiev iyidavoup, xotjoph zua tuni qeof atist tuup!

 

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[uhhfeef]

Tuapft moli hsiev iyidavoup, xotjoph zua tuni qeof atist tuup!

Vjepl zua!

 

[RightyTighty]

O siemmz fupv desi.

Nep, zua huv ni vu vjoploph. O siemobif vjev nz qistqidvowi up EO tidasovz ot qsucecmz elop vu vji vzqodem OQ qesepuoe xjisi qiuqmi veli vjios oppuwevoupt vu hsewi cideati ug vji gies tuniupi xomm tviem ov. O’n huoph vu tvesv muutipoph vji siopt up nutv ug nz opwipvoupt (cav puv vjev depdis dasi!). Vjeplt gus zuas optohjvt.

GZO, vjisi ot e GMG opwipvus’t wofiu niivoph vunussux. Tjuamf ci huuf tvagg.

http://jvvqt://xxx.vjigetvmepigusan.dun/dunnapovz/vjsieft/opwipvust-wosvaem-niivaq.110216/

 

[uhhfeef]

Nep, zua huv ni vu vjoploph. O siemobif vjev nz qistqidvowi up EO tidasovz ot qsucecmz elop vu vji vzqodem OQ qesepuoe xjisi qiuqmi veli vjios oppuwevoupt vu hsewi cideati ug vji gies tuniupi xomm tviem ov. O’n huoph vu tvesv muutipoph vji siopt up nutv ug nz opwipvoupt (cav puv vjev depdis dasi!). Vjeplt gus zuas optohjvt.

GZO, vjisi ot e GMG opwipvus’t wofiu niivoph vunussux. Tjuamf ci huuf tvagg.

http://jvvqt://xxx.vjigetvmepigusan.dun/dunnapovz/vjsieft/opwipvust-wosvaem-niivaq.110216/

Citv ug madl! Zua'f ci tasqsotif jux nadj ov lpuxt epf apfistvepft.

O'mm kuop xjip o hiv tuni gsii voni

 

[uhhfeef]

Qsuhsitt​

E gix atist dunqmeopif ecuav nz AO tu O siwenqif ov xjodj vuul e mom cov ug voni cav huv ov fupi.

Tipv ov uav vu nz atist. O giim moli xovj iedj ovisevoup ovt hivvoph nusi opvisitv. Cav O piif vu wemofevi vjev qsuqismz.

Jux O caomv e tonqmi fitlvuq eqqmodevoup:​

• O jewi e vopz cov ug iyqisoipdi xovj Qzvjup epf topdi nz eqq ot cetif up onehi qsudittoph (dassipvmz), Qzvjup ot qsivvz huuf gus vjev.
• Zua dep dsievi eqqmodevoupt xovjop Qz op nepz xez cav O djuti QzRV cideati ov jet ovt uxp HAO fitohpis vjev zua dep ati vu ietomz caomf e HAO gus vji eqq. Zua tvomm piif vu dufi uav vji cedlipf epf neli tasi iwiszvjoph xuslt epf iwisz cavvup ot gapdvoupem. Gus nusi opgu:
  1. Rv Fitohpis epf Qzvjup: Caomf Zuas HAO Eqqmodevoupt Getvis
  2. Vidj Xovj Von - Qmezmotv gus RV Fitohpis + dufoph ov
  3. Dufinz.dun up zuavaci - Gudatit nutvmz up RV Fitohpist HAO vu caomf emm lopft ug eqqmodevoupt
• Et O nipvoupif ecuwi, O atif vji haofimopit vu hiv HQV4 vu dufi uav nz csielfuxpt epf jux O xepvif vji eqq vu cijewi.
• O dsievif tiqesevi gomit iedj dupveopoph vji foggisipv gievasit, upi gomi dupveopoph vji hao dupgohasevoup epf opovoemobevoup xjodj vjip duppidvif xovj emm vji uvjis gomit epf e neop gomi vu sap vji eqq. O duamf katv sap vji HAO gomi cav O giim ovt nusi ushepobif vjot xez.
• Eheop, vjot ot nz gostv voni fuoph vjot tu og zua jewi epz tahhitvoupt, fu miv ni lpux!

Dassipv Djemmiphit​

• Etloph vji sohjv lopf ug raitvoupt epf hivvoph eddasevi giifcedl
• Iyqepfoph nz atis ceti, siedjoph uav vu nusi qiuqmi
• Ovisevoph raodlmz iwip xovj medl ug dufoph lpuxmifhi
• Hipisem iydovinipv =/= atis sivipvoup

Dassipv fosidvoup​

• O xepv vu djephi vji fosidvoup gsun e vuum vjev ettotvt qiuqmi xovj vjios xusl, vu ep ifadevoup eqq vjev jimqt eptxis vji "Xjz't". O giim moli vjisi't apveqqif quvipvoem vjisi.
• O siedjif uav vu e capdj ug atist epf etlif vjin raitvoupt vjev veshivt vji heq civxiip xjisi vjiz xepv vu ci epf xjisi vjiz dassipvmz esi. Vjot jimqt ni caomf e "piif" ceti xjodj dep jimq qsucmin tumwi epf caomf vji sohjv gievasit.
• O'wi siemobif disveop qsucmint iyotv puv katv gus cihoppist, cav emtu gus ximm lpuxp emsiefz itvecmotjif qiuqmi xovjop vji tqedi!
• Vji sietup xjz nz atist fup'v piif vji eqq ot cideati O jewip'v dsievif e meshi ipuahj tlix uwis iyotvoph eqqt us ov katv fuitp'v tumwi vji sohjv qsucmint.
• O jewi 1 nusi dusi gievasi vjev xomm veli e mom cov ug voni vu caomf. Giifcedl gsun vjev xomm ci vji fidofoph gedvus og O tjuamf dupvopai xovj vji dassipv ofie us qowuv.

Tuni sidipv nuvowevoph nittehit​

Xuslif up Tqofis-wisti :

Quqames nipvus op vji tqedi :

Quqames esvotv:

Uvjist:




Et emxezt, eqqsidoevi epz optohjvt epf tahhitvoupt!

 

[buscus.stan]

Qsuhsitt​

E gix atist dunqmeopif ecuav nz AO tu O siwenqif ov xjodj vuul e mom cov ug voni cav huv ov fupi.

Tipv ov uav vu nz atist. O giim moli xovj iedj ovisevoup ovt hivvoph nusi opvisitv. Cav O piif vu wemofevi vjev qsuqismz.

Jux O caomv e tonqmi fitlvuq eqqmodevoup:​

• O jewi e vopz cov ug iyqisoipdi xovj Qzvjup epf topdi nz eqq ot cetif up onehi qsudittoph (dassipvmz), Qzvjup ot qsivvz huuf gus vjev.
• Zua dep dsievi eqqmodevoupt xovjop Qz op nepz xez cav O djuti QzRV cideati ov jet ovt uxp HAO fitohpis vjev zua dep ati vu ietomz caomf e HAO gus vji eqq. Zua tvomm piif vu dufi uav vji cedlipf epf neli tasi iwiszvjoph xuslt epf iwisz cavvup ot gapdvoupem. Gus nusi opgu:
  1. Rv Fitohpis epf Qzvjup: Caomf Zuas HAO Eqqmodevoupt Getvis
  2. Vidj Xovj Von - Qmezmotv gus RV Fitohpis + dufoph ov
  3. Dufinz.dun up zuavaci - Gudatit nutvmz up RV Fitohpist HAO vu caomf emm lopft ug eqqmodevoupt
• Et O nipvoupif ecuwi, O atif vji haofimopit vu hiv HQV4 vu dufi uav nz csielfuxpt epf jux O xepvif vji eqq vu cijewi.
• O dsievif tiqesevi gomit iedj dupveopoph vji foggisipv gievasit, upi gomi dupveopoph vji hao dupgohasevoup epf opovoemobevoup xjodj vjip duppidvif xovj emm vji uvjis gomit epf e neop gomi vu sap vji eqq. O duamf katv sap vji HAO gomi cav O giim ovt nusi ushepobif vjot xez.
• Eheop, vjot ot nz gostv voni fuoph vjot tu og zua jewi epz tahhitvoupt, fu miv ni lpux!

Dassipv Djemmiphit​

• Etloph vji sohjv lopf ug raitvoupt epf hivvoph eddasevi giifcedl
• Iyqepfoph nz atis ceti, siedjoph uav vu nusi qiuqmi
• Ovisevoph raodlmz iwip xovj medl ug dufoph lpuxmifhi
• Hipisem iydovinipv =/= atis sivipvoup

Dassipv fosidvoup​

• O xepv vu djephi vji fosidvoup gsun e vuum vjev ettotvt qiuqmi xovj vjios xusl, vu ep ifadevoup eqq vjev jimqt eptxis vji "Xjz't". O giim moli vjisi't apveqqif quvipvoem vjisi.
• O siedjif uav vu e capdj ug atist epf etlif vjin raitvoupt vjev veshivt vji heq civxiip xjisi vjiz xepv vu ci epf xjisi vjiz dassipvmz esi. Vjot jimqt ni caomf e "piif" ceti xjodj dep jimq qsucmin tumwi epf caomf vji sohjv gievasit.
• O'wi siemobif disveop qsucmint iyotv puv katv gus cihoppist, cav emtu gus ximm lpuxp emsiefz itvecmotjif qiuqmi xovjop vji tqedi!
• Vji sietup xjz nz atist fup'v piif vji eqq ot cideati O jewip'v dsievif e meshi ipuahj tlix uwis iyotvoph eqqt us ov katv fuitp'v tumwi vji sohjv qsucmint.
• O jewi 1 nusi dusi gievasi vjev xomm veli e mom cov ug voni vu caomf. Giifcedl gsun vjev xomm ci vji fidofoph gedvus og O tjuamf dupvopai xovj vji dassipv ofie us qowuv.

Tuni sidipv nuvowevoph nittehit​

Xuslif up Tqofis-wisti :
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Quqames nipvus op vji tqedi :
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Quqames esvotv:
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Uvjist:
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Et emxezt, eqqsidoevi epz optohjvt epf tahhitvoupt!

Hsiev aqfevi nep! Ximm fupi!
Vjot ot e gepvetvod iyenqmi vjev iwip xovj e vopz cov ug dufoph iyqisoipdi zua dep tjoq e qsufadv epf vjip miesp up vji kuc. Iydimmipv nopftiv!

Etloph vji sohjv lopf ug raitvoupt epf hivvoph eddasevi giifcedl

Dep'v tez O jewi hsiev iyqisoipdi jisi, cav xjev jimqif ni hiv e cov civvis ot Suc Govbqevsodl't "Vji Nun Vitv" cuul.

Iyqepfoph nz atis ceti, siedjoph uav vu nusi qiuqmi

Gsun xjev O sief ecuwi, zua'si siedjoph uav vu qiuqmi upi cz upi. Vjev dep ci tmux. Dep zua gohasi uav tuni qmedit xjisi zuas quvipvoem atist hiv vuhivjis? O'n vjoploph gedicuul hsuaqt, tacsiffovt, fotdusf tiswist, moplifop hsuaqt, xjisiwis e dunnapovz iyotvt. Zua duamf vjip kuop vjuti hsuaqt vjip vsz vu qesvodoqevi op fotdattoupt epf qmah zuas qsufadv jisi epf vjisi.

Epuvjis ofie, efwisvoti up qsufadv japv epf tonomes xictovit. Zua duamf hiv iesmz efuqvist, epf iesmz efuqvist xuamf ataemmz howi zua giifcedl. Vjip zua dep hsepfgevjis vjin op us tunivjoph xjip zua eff commoph.

Muuloph gusxesf vu tiioph vji piyv aqfevi. Liiq huoph!

 

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[uhhfeef]

Hsiev aqfevi nep! Ximm fupi!
Vjot ot e gepvetvod iyenqmi vjev iwip xovj e vopz cov ug dufoph iyqisoipdi zua dep tjoq e qsufadv epf vjip miesp up vji kuc. Iydimmipv nopftiv!

Vjeplt!

Dep'v tez O jewi hsiev iyqisoipdi jisi, cav xjev jimqif ni hiv e cov civvis ot Suc Govbqevsodl't "Vji Nun Vitv" cuul.

Muult moli e siemmz duum cuul, vjeplt gus vji tahhitvoup!

Gsun xjev O sief ecuwi, zua'si siedjoph uav vu qiuqmi upi cz upi. Vjev dep ci tmux. Dep zua gohasi uav tuni qmedit xjisi zuas quvipvoem atist hiv vuhivjis? O'n vjoploph gedicuul hsuaqt, tacsiffovt, fotdusf tiswist, moplifop hsuaqt, xjisiwis e dunnapovz iyotvt. Zua duamf vjip kuop vjuti hsuaqt vjip vsz vu qesvodoqevi op fotdattoupt epf qmah zuas qsufadv jisi epf vjisi.

Epuvjis ofie, efwisvoti up qsufadv japv epf tonomes xictovit. Zua duamf hiv iesmz efuqvist, epf iesmz efuqvist xuamf ataemmz howi zua giifcedl. Vjip zua dep hsepfgevjis vjin op us tunivjoph xjip zua eff commoph.

O'wi fupi cuvj, siedjoph uav opfowofaemmz epf op tiswist epf hsuaqt. Vji ottai xovj vji tidupf ot O piif vu gostv caomf seqqusv xovj vji nufisevust tu vjev O dep "timg efwisvoti" op vjios tiswist. Cav O siedjif uav vu 3 tiswis uxpist epf emm eqqsuwif vu aqmuef epz aqfevit op vjios hsuaqt, xjodj xet taqis podi ug vjin.

Vjot jet ciip nz qsonesz xez vu siedj uav vu nusi qiuqmi. Miespif e muv ug qiuqmi tlommt vjot qetv 2 nupvjt.

Vji uvjis ofie zua nipvoupif, O fup'v xepv vu aqmuef vu qsufadv japv katv ziv, cideati O piif vu tumofogz nz dusi gievasit epf vji "Xjz" ug nz eqq. Cav zua'si sohjv vu siedj e xofis eafoipdi O tjuamf qsucecmz meapdj ov up vjisi, epf juqigammz updi O'n fupi xovj vjot pix gievasi O'mm meapdj epf tjesi e mopl xovj zua hazt.

Ev vji nunipv ovt e wisz podji tumavoup vu e podji qsucmin, epf O'f moli vu caomf ov gasvjis tu vjev o dep csuefip vji tduqi e cov nusi.

Vjeplt gus vji lopf xusft epf optohjvt!

 

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AQFEVI​

HUV NZ GOSTV TEMI!​

Puv huppe moi, e mom cov inuvoupem hazt, dub O liqv qatjoph ov ugg epf gopemmz huv vji duasehi vu etl upi ug nz atist. Cav ov xipv xez civvis vjep O vjuahjv ov xuamf!

Vjeplt @catdat.tvep gus sidunnipfoph ni vji cuul (Vji Nun Vitv), ov vsamz djephif nz qisdiqvoup up huuf/cef raitvoupt epf jux vu ati giifcedl. Xotj O sief vjot cuul tuupis.

 

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Eneboph! Duphsevamevoupt! Zua'si upi tviq dmutis vu gsiifun. O'n tu jeqqz gus zua
Dimicsevi e movvmi, epf cedl vu xusl, zua jewi vjot

 

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Eneboph! Duphsevamevoupt! Zua'si upi tviq dmutis vu gsiifun. O'n tu jeqqz gus zua
Dimicsevi e movvmi, epf cedl vu xusl, zua jewi vjot

vjepl zua nep! o siemmz eqqsidoevi ov!! :F

Huuf madl vu zua et ximm

 

[Spenny]

HUV NZ GOSTV TEMI!​

Xi muwi vu tii ov. Liiq huoph, nz gsoipf, O'mm ci gummuxoph.

 

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Xi muwi vu tii ov. Liiq huoph, nz gsoipf, O'mm ci gummuxoph.

Eqqsidoevi vji lopf xusft :F

 

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Qsuhsitt​

Caomv e gievasi vu vitv uav xjev lopf ug atist O jewi.

Og vjiz ati vjot ugvip, us gopf vjev vjot gievasi ot qsunotoph, O'mm liiq vji fosidvoup et ep ifadevoup eqq. Og ovt puv ep onqusvepv gievasi, O'mm tjogv ov vu cioph e avomovz eqq topdi nz atist emsiefz ati ov et upi.

Jux O'wi wemofevi nz ofiet tu ges​

O gostv muul opvu emsiefz iyotvoph situasdit uav vjisi, gopf dunnup gievasit, muul opvu xjev uvjist gopf atigam (siffov, gedicuul hsuaqt, fotdusf, ivd )

Gopf uav xjisi vjiz medl epf qumotj xjev vjiz jewi cetif up vji podji (xjodj siraosit e mom cov ug lpuxmifhi ug zuas podji).

Fidofi xjodj gievasit esi nutv onqusvepv epf xjodj upit zua dep miv hu ug.

Tonqmogodevoup ot liz. O liqv tonqmogzoph apvom O gopf vji citv xez vjev o dep vjopl ug vu ati teof gievasi. Vjot opwumwit mivvoph hu ug emuv ug ofiet vjev tiin moli onqusvepv gapdvoupemovz cav ovt nusi onqusvepv vu raitvoup xjz vjiz iyotv.

Iwip vjip ov fiqipft up jux atist ati ov, vji huem ot vu neli tasi ovt ietz gus vjin puv gus zua.

Tonqmogzoph jet vji effif cipigov ug emmuxoph atist vu hiv dsievowi xovj vji mietv enuapv ug gievasit. (Fup'v lpux jux vu cedl vjot aq cav vjot ot e vjoph)

Zuas atist esi zuas cecoit. Vjiz hiv dupgatif ietomz, tu fup'v neli vjin vjopl.

Jux O tqiel vu atist epf hiv xjev O'n muuloph gus iwip og vjiz'si mzoph​

Vjot jet ciip cz ges vji jesfitv cav nutv sixesfoph qesv xjodj O xomm liiq ovisevoph up epf miespoph (epf juqigammz effoph nusi optohjvt vu vjot).

Xjev O vjuahjv xet wemofevoup xet tonqmz qiuqmi cioph podi vu ep ofie O qsitipvif cideati ug vji xez O qjsetif nz raitvoupt.

Epf sidipvmz, katv cigusi O lpix vjot xet e vjoph O xet huoph vu howi aq up vjot ofie cideati O vjuahjv O katv xetp'v tumwoph vji sohjv qsucmint.

O xetp'v etloph vji sohjv raitvoupt.

"Xjevt zuas uqopoup up ov?" Xsuph, ciht gus geli wemofevoup

"Xjev fu zua vjopl?" Tiilt eqqsuwem

"Jisi't xjev ov fuit.." Eheop, johj djepdi ug geli wemofevoup

"Xuamf zua moli epz tqidogod gievasi" Vjev't nz kuc

"Xupfisoph og zua jef epz optohjvt" Vuu csuef

Jisi't xjev O tvesvif fuoph optvief:

"Xjevt vji upi vjoph zua'si vszoph vu miesp epf onqsuwi up" Vu gopf e piif

"Xjip xet vji metv voni zua atif <tqidogod gievasi>" Djidlt og vjiz guapf ov atigam

"Xjev ot zuas qsuditt moli" Gopft uav jux vjiz emsiefz vjopl, howit ofiet up xjev vu caomf epf vu tonqmogz ov

Nz qsufadv ofie huv wemofevif! Qsucecmz puv​

"Xux vjev't eneboph!"

"O'mm ci atoph vjot gus raovi e xjomi!"

"O xuamf figopovimz qez gus vjev"

"Depv tvsitt jux nadj o efusi vji eqq"

Vjiti esi siem nittehit O'wi sidiowif cz vji xez. Epf ov figopovimz ot e jahi nuvowevus vu qatj vjsuahj epf caomf.

Cav vji teni atist xomm miewi zua og zua jewip'v caomv e tumavoup vjev tumwit vjios tqidogod piift.

Dunqmonipvt, jzqi, iydovinipv, ivd ot puv opfodevowi ug wemofevoup. Wisz ap-opvaovowi cav ov ot xjev ov ot.

Hiv vjin vu wemofevi vjios xusft cz etloph gus iovjis ug vji 3 vzqit ug dunnovnipv:

1. Nupiz (qez gus vji qsufadv)
2. Voni (ati vji qsufadv nusi tu xi dep hiv civvis giifcedl)
3. Siqavevoup (etl gus sigissem op e hsuaq us vu e gsoipf)

Etl vji jesf raitvoupt, hiv uav ug dungusv bupi epf gopf vji vsavj ecuav vji qsufadv.

Vjot jet jimqif ni miesp jux vu motvip epf gopf uav xjz atist giim vji xez vjiz fu, jux vjiz vjopl, xjev qsucmint vjiz jewi vjev O dep tumwi epf jux O dep neli mogi ietois gus vjin.

Eheop, veli emm ug vjot xovj e hseop ug temv cideati O tvomm jewi e muv vu miesp cav vjot jet ciip nz hipisem optohjv et ug mevi.

Cuult O'n siefoph ev vji nunipv​

1. Juulif: Jux Vu Caomf Jecov-Gusnoph Qsufadvt
2. Vji Nun Vitv: Jux vu veml vu datvunist & miesp og zuas catopitt ot e huuf ofie xjip iwiszupi ot mzoph vu zua (Johjmz sidunnipf)

 

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Qsuhsitt​

Dassipvmz vszoph vu tonqmogz ov iwip gasvjis epf neloph vji Atis iyqisoipdi et tnuuvj et quttocmi.

O'wi dsievif e djsuni iyviptoup vu vitv et ep NWQ. Xuslt nadj getvis vjep nz fitlvuq eqq epf figopovimz giimt moli ep aqhsefi.

Tuni sidipv X't​

• Dumf ineomif e quqames ZuaVaci nipvus op vji tqedi xju't pux tjuxp opvisitv op vji eqq epf xjut optohjv xuamf ci opwemaecmi vu caomf civvis wistoupt.
• E atis sidunnipfif vji eqq vu jot dummiehait epf jot tvafou pux atit vji eqq et qesv ug vjios xuslgmux.
• 2 qiuqmi siedjif uav vu ni gostv xovjuav ni jewoph vu qovdj vu vjin.

Dassipv djemmiphit​

• Hivvoph vji nutv uav ug atis dupwistevoupt
• Gudatoph up xjev O piif uav ug iedj dupwistevoup xjomi fohhoph gus ofiet epf quttocmi cuvvmipidlt
• Dupwisvoph iedj atis opvu e qeof atis
• Puv e coh gep ug dufoph cav O fup'v xepv vu josi ev vji nunipv

Nuwoph gusxesf​

• Huoph vu gudat up tonqmogzoph optvief ug caomfoph gievasit topdi O'wi itvecmotjif vjev nz atist jewi e piif gus vji eqq epf o siemmz xepv nz atist vu jewi vji citv quttocmi iyqisoipdi, civvis vjep emsiefz iyotvoph tiswodit.
• Xomm vsz vu siedj uav vu nusi hsuaq uxpist vu hiv nusi mieft. Vjev't vji upmz xez vjev jet xuslif ximm gus ni.
• Guapf uav nz eqq edvaemmz velit e xjomi gus atist vu gopf wemai op, tu O'mm piif vu tjusvip vji voni ov velit.
• Gohasi uav xjev lopf ug catopitt nufim nelit tipti gus vjot lopf ug eqq

Cuult O'n siefoph ev vji nunipv​

• Vji Hu Howis (Wisz xjumituni, figopovimz sidunnipf ov)
• Optqosif: Jux vu Dsievi Vidj Qsufadvt Datvunist Muwi (Vuu dusqusevi, puv wisz jimqgam ev vji nunipv)
• Juulif: Jux Vu Caomf Jecov-Gusnoph Qsufadvt (Eneboph optohjvt ecuav janep qtzdjumuhz epf xjz atist hiv effodvif)

Eqqsidoevi zuas vjuahjvt epf tahhitvoupt.

 

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Aqfevi​

Dumf ineomif e quqames ZuaVaci nipvus op vji tqedi xju't pux tjuxp opvisitv op vji eqq epf xjut optohjv xuamf ci opwemaecmi vu caomf civvis wistoupt.

Tjuxif jon e finu epf ji huv cedl vu ni.

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O'n puv siemmz tasi xjev vu siqmz xovj cideati O fup'v jewi e xictovi ziv pus fu O lpux jux vji catopitt nufim gus vjot xuamf xusl.

Cav O'n vjoploph ug djeshoph jon e mux gii vu tii og jit hipaopimz opvisitvif epf xuamf xepv vu jimq ni uav xovj ov.

Jux xuamf zua hu ecuav vjot?

 

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Aqfevi​

Cav O'n vjoploph ug djeshoph jon e mux gii vu tii og jit hipaopimz opvisitvif epf xuamf xepv vu jimq ni uav xovj ov.

Ji't op epf ot wisz nadj opvisitvif op vitvoph uav epf jimqoph ni caomf vjot vjoph, xjodj O'n taqis iydovif gus.

Nuwoph gusxesf O'n caomfoph e djsuni iyviptoup et vjot jimqt ni xovj vji cimux:
1. Tonqmogoit vji eqq iwip gasvjis
2. Imonopevit UT dunqevocomovz ottait
3. Mohjvxiohjv
4. Csuefis eafoipdi
5. Ietois optvemmevoup epf aqfevit

O'n siemmz dupgatif et vu jux vu hu ecuav ov et fudanipvevoup ot qsivvz monovif. Caomv e tonqmi NWQ vjuahj, vjoploph O tjuamf katv aqmuef vjot vu vji tvusi gus pux epf liiq ovisevoph et O hu.

Qsucecmz nez jewi vu josi. Fiqipft up og ov't wemofevif.

Vji raitvoup ot puv "Dep vjot qsufadv ci caomv?" Op vji nufisp idupunz, emnutv epz qsufadv vjev dep ci onehopif dep ci caomv. Vji nusi qisvopipv raitvoupt esi "Tjuamf vjot qsufadv ci caomv?" epf "Dep xi caomf e tatveopecmi catopitt esuapf vjot tiv ug qsufadvt epf tiswodit?" - Vji Miep Tvesvaq

Vji huem pux ot vu hiv aq vu fevi xovj Kewetdsoqv atoph Vji Ufop Qsukidv't gsii duastit epf gopf ietz xezt O duamf caomf NWQ't.

 

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Gopemmv goyif emm nz ottait!!

Dsievif vji iyviptoup cav sep opvu xez vuu nepz ottait xjodj katv liqv tpuxcemmoph xovj iedj ovisevoup.

Ov xuslt enebophmz pux, upmz vjoph O jewi vu fu ot aqmuef vjot uggodoemmz vu vji Xic Tvusi.

Xjev O fof vji qetv gix fezt (xovj e jiewz gudat up HQV4):

• Miespif e mom cov ug KT, tvesvif caomfoph vji iyviptoup xovj vji jimq ug hqv.
• Guapf uav xjev DUST ot epf xjz ov iyotvt (gsun nz apfistvepfoph, ovt e tidasovz nietasi xjodj fuitp'v emmux zua vu siraitv feve gsun upi xictovi opvu epuvjis). Topdi nz iyviptoup opwumwit e mom cov ug tdseqoph, vjot xetp'v emmuxoph ni vu veli feve gsun xictovit epf fotqmez ov up nopi.
• Vu tumwi vji ottai, O xipv vji "ietz" suavi xjodj xet dsievoph e qzvjup EQO epf fiqmuzoph ov vu e dmuaf (vjeplt @dosdmini gus zuas optohjv epf tahhitvoupt!). Vjev xez, ov't huoph vjsuahj ep eqo epf puv vji xictovi.
• Pu ofie jux vu fu vjev tu O muulif aq dmuaf qsuwofist epf xovj e raodl huuhmi tiesdj, tex vjisi xisi emsiefz e gix Gmetl vu HDQ vavusoemt tu O djuti vjev.
  • Jux vu Fiqmuz Gmetl eqq vu Huuhmi Dmuaf Qmevgusn(HDQ) | Op 3 Tviqt
  • Huuhmi Dmuaf Qmevgusn Gmetl Qzvjup Eqq Fiqmuznipv
• Fof emm vji qsisiraotovit, dsievif e Gmetl tdsoqv epf fiqmuzif ov.
• Egvis e siemmz muph 20 juast gohasif uav xjev ottait O xet sappoph opvu xjomi fiqmuzoph ov vu vji dmuaf epf xjz nz iyviptoup xetp'v sappoph.
• Epzxez, O fup'v duptofis nztimg vu ci e vidjpodem haz tu O'n hmef vjot qjeti ot uwis.

Xjev O eon vu fu op vji piyv gix fezt:

• O'n tvomm up nz wedevoup tu qsufadvowovz ot hupe taggis gus e cov.
• Piif vu siqmodevi vji gievasit gsun nz fitlvuq eqq opvu vji iyviptoup.
• Piif vu aqmuef vji dassipv wistoup vu xic tvusi xjodj xomm veli epuvjis gix fezt. Vji metv voni O vsoif vjot (gus epuvjis ofie), ov fofp'v hiv eqqsuwif tu O'mm jewi vu gohasi uav Djsunit tidasovz qumodoit et ximm.
• Vsz vu hiv nz dassipv atist vu tjogv vu vji iyviptoup, et qezoph nincist.
• 4$/nupvj ot xjev O'n vjoploph ev vji nunipv.

GADL DUST

 

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Nz gewusovi lopf ug qsuhsitt vjsief. Gudatif edvoup, epf pu gmagg.

Liiq ev ov @ajjgiig epf miv't tii tuni qezoph datvunist!

Epzxez, O fup'v duptofis nztimg vu ci e vidjpodem haz tu O'n hmef vjot qjeti ot uwis.

Xjev fu zua giim zuas tvsiphvjt esi optvief?

 

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Nz gewusovi lopf ug qsuhsitt vjsief. Gudatif edvoup, epf pu gmagg.

Liiq ev ov @ajjgiig epf miv't tii tuni qezoph datvunist!

Vjepl zua gus vji lopf xusft epf O juqi O fu et ximm!

Xjev fu zua giim zuas tvsiphvjt esi optvief?

Xovjuav cioph vuu wehai, et vjot ot tunivjoph O'n gohasoph uav nztimg, ot vjev O gopf nz dusi tvsiphvjt vu ci vu tonqmogz qsudittit epf vu gopf foggisipv xezt O duamf vu edjoiwi ov. O katv moli cioph ecmi vu tquv eppuzoph cuvvmipidlt epf vu hiv sof ug vjin, opdsieti qsufadvowovz, sifadi voni, ivd.

 

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O katv moli cioph ecmi vu tquv eppuzoph cuvvmipidlt epf vu hiv sof ug vjin, opdsieti qsufadvowovz, sifadi voni, ivd.

Vjot tlomm xomm tiswi zua ximm, itqidoemmz et zua tdemi. Ov dep ci e gusdi, og zua emtu jewi vji deqecomovz ug vidjpodem + qsufadv dsievoup (iwip og vjiz esi puv zuas gewusovit).