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Hi

This is something I’ve been thinking a lot about lately.

Why wouldn’t you go to college or university? If you have the possibility to do it?

This isn’t my fixed opinion but rather a questioning of my OWN belief that:
”going to college is a complete waste of time + the missed ”potential earning” of a job/ business.”

Here’s my current situation to give an example:

Age 21, $22k saved up, quit full-time job, no business registered and some scattered ideas that won’t get me far. Example: dropshipping a ”special” sleep mask in Sweden.

Instead of winging some random business ideas that have a minimal potential of being a specialized unit. Wouldn’t a degree set yourself up for life? In other words, make sure that you can go on forever and. not lose?

Of course I’m not talking about a kindergarden/Mozart History education.
But something of STEM/general.

Btw. University in Sweden is free and you can for sure avoid a student loan to cover living cost. Interest:0.59% (swedish university=american college)

This thread was inspired by @fastlane_dad and @NeoDialectic tips on how to set yourself up and achieve your dreams.

This next part is copied from fastlane_dads thread! (Link below for whole thread)

Work towards a degree / slowlane / high income skill

Everything is about chances and risk - and I wanted to make sure I am setup with a high earning skill no matter what. I was not delusional about starting a business that would be an instant success or bring me millions of dollars when I was 18 years old - so I enrolled in a university that was more or less guaranteed to pay me a middle/upper class earning wage for the rest of my life.

There is a lot of gurus and naysayers calling this a waste of time, or many other negative connotations associated with going to college. To me it was an enjoyable time, and an insurance policy that would feed me for the rest of my life. Your 'slowlane' beginnings also will provide you a future paycheck to experiment and try and fail at your other entrepreneurial or fastlane ventures. If you are struggling to put food on the table or cover your mortgage / rent - you will not have the privilege to devote yourself freely to think of and startup businesses - majority of which will be a drain on your wallet and time. This should not be the end goal for you, rather a stepping stone in guaranteeing consistent cash flow and employability.

The time to do this is when you are young! You will have time for it all - part time jobs, gf, side-hustle, partying and learning additional skills. I clamor for those days as I had little to no 'real' responsibility during that time (no wife, no house, no kids, no aging parents, etc). THIS is the time to invest all you can in yourself, and a high-income skill through college is a good first plan! Remember to choose your major carefully though!

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O movisemmz jewi vjuahjv vji teni vjuahjvt et zua. “Dummihi ot xetvi” “xjz hu og vji uavduni xomm ci e kuc tunivjoph O jevi” cav vjip O jef vji teni siemobevoup. O’n zuaph epf ov’t vji qisgidv voni vu tiv nz guapfevoup. E guapfevoupem johj opduni tlomm vjev O dep gemm cedl up.

O’wi xuslif duapvmitt ug kuct epf vjiz’wi nefi ni giim tu notisecmi. Vji idupunz jet huvvip xusti et vji ziest jewi hupi up. Zua dep’v nuwi uav epf taswowi emupi op vji AT xovj e cetod noponan xehi. E johj opduni tlomm ot e natv. Iwiszvjoph teof op vjot qutv ot wisz vsai. Siefoph Getvmepi fef epf Piufoemidvod’t tvusz xet wisz optqosoph.
 
O’n hmef O fup’v jewi dummihi ficv cav O fof tqipf e muph voni xusloph vissocmi mux qezoph kuct xjomi tivvoph nz catopitt aq epf O fu figopovimz giim moli O nottif uav up vjev iyqisoipdi epf voni op nz mogi vu niiv qiuqmi epf jewi gap epf vsz e capdj ug vjopht epf miesp e capdj ug vjopht

Ov xuamf ci tu duum vu hu vu e huuf apowistovz epf ci tassuapfif cz zuaph tnesv nuvowevif qiuqmi

O vjopl epuvjis gedvus vu duptofis ot nevasovz epf nopftiv. Zua piif vu ci raovi nevasi epf dupgofipv vu caomf e huuf catopitt, vjot ot tunivjoph vjev hipisemmz dunit xovj ehi, tu xjz puv tvafz epf jewi gap xjomi zua esi zuaph epf tvomm fiwimuqoph vjot nevasovz
 
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Vjot ot tunivjoph O’wi ciip vjoploph e muv ecuav mevimz.

Xjz xuamfp’v zua hu vu dummihi us apowistovz? Og zua jewi vji quttocomovz vu fu ov?

Vjot otp’v nz goyif uqopoup cav sevjis e raitvoupoph ug nz UXP cimoig vjev:
”huoph vu dummihi ot e dunqmivi xetvi ug voni + vji nottif ”quvipvoem iespoph” ug e kuc/ catopitt.”

Jisi’t nz dassipv tovaevoup vu howi ep iyenqmi:

Ehi 21, $22l tewif aq, raov gamm-voni kuc, pu catopitt sihotvisif epf tuni tdevvisif ofiet vjev xup’v hiv ni ges. Iyenqmi: fsuqtjoqqoph e ”tqidoem” tmiiq netl op Txifip.

Optvief ug xophoph tuni sepfun catopitt ofiet vjev jewi e noponem quvipvoem ug cioph e tqidoemobif apov. Xuamfp’v e fihsii tiv zuastimg aq gus mogi? Op uvjis xusft, neli tasi vjev zua dep hu up gusiwis epf. puv muti?

Ug duasti O’n puv vemloph ecuav e lopfishesfip/Nubesv Jotvusz ifadevoup.
Cav tunivjoph ug TVIN/hipisem.

Cvx. Apowistovz op Txifip ot gsii epf zua dep gus tasi ewuof e tvafipv muep vu duwis mowoph dutv. Opvisitv:0.59% (txifotj apowistovz=enisodep dummihi)

Vjot vjsief xet optqosif cz @getvmepi_fef epf @PiuFoemidvod voqt up jux vu tiv zuastimg aq epf edjoiwi zuas fsient.

Vjot piyv qesv ot duqoif gsun getvmepi_feft vjsief! (Mopl cimux gus xjumi vjsief)

Xusl vuxesft e fihsii / tmuxmepi / johj opduni tlomm

Iwiszvjoph ot ecuav djepdit epf sotl - epf O xepvif vu neli tasi O en tivaq xovj e johj iespoph tlomm pu nevvis xjev. O xet puv fimatoupem ecuav tvesvoph e catopitt vjev xuamf ci ep optvepv tadditt us csoph ni nommoupt ug fummest xjip O xet 18 ziest umf - tu O ipsummif op e apowistovz vjev xet nusi us mitt haesepviif vu qez ni e noffmi/aqqis dmett iespoph xehi gus vji sitv ug nz mogi.

Vjisi ot e muv ug hasat epf peztezist demmoph vjot e xetvi ug voni, us nepz uvjis pihevowi duppuvevoupt ettudoevif xovj huoph vu dummihi. Vu ni ov xet ep ipkuzecmi voni, epf ep optasepdi qumodz vjev xuamf giif ni gus vji sitv ug nz mogi. Zuas 'tmuxmepi' cihoppopht emtu xomm qsuwofi zua e gavasi qezdjidl vu iyqisonipv epf vsz epf geom ev zuas uvjis ipvsiqsipiasoem us getvmepi wipvasit. Og zua esi tvsahhmoph vu qav guuf up vji vecmi us duwis zuas nusvhehi / sipv - zua xomm puv jewi vji qsowomihi vu fiwuvi zuastimg gsiimz vu vjopl ug epf tvesvaq catopittit - nekusovz ug xjodj xomm ci e fseop up zuas xemmiv epf voni. Vjot tjuamf puv ci vji ipf huem gus zua, sevjis e tviqqoph tvupi op haesepviioph duptotvipv detj gmux epf inqmuzecomovz.

Vji voni vu fu vjot ot xjip zua esi zuaph! Zua xomm jewi voni gus ov emm - qesv voni kuct, hg, tofi-jatvmi, qesvzoph epf miespoph effovoupem tlommt. O dmenus gus vjuti fezt et O jef movvmi vu pu 'siem' sitquptocomovz fasoph vjev voni (pu xogi, pu juati, pu loft, pu ehoph qesipvt, ivd). VJOT ot vji voni vu opwitv emm zua dep op zuastimg, epf e johj-opduni tlomm vjsuahj dummihi ot e huuf gostv qmep! Sinincis vu djuuti zuas nekus desigammz vjuahj!

Duqoif gsun:
O dep'v tqiel gus iwiszupi esuapf vji xusmf, cav gus nutv Enisodept ov't timfun xusvj ov, epf/us ov dunit ev e wisz tviiq qsodi.
Nutv ug at fup'v jewi 22l tewif cz 21, miv emupi 18.
Nutv ug at fup'v hiv "gsii dummihi."
Tvafipvt dep'v mihemmz fsopl apvom ehi 21, cav ev 18, vjiz hiv velip efwepvehi ug cz qsifevusz tvafipv muep qsedvodit. Xiosf jux tvafipv muep ficv ot vji upmz ficv vjev otp'v xoqif cz ceplsaqvdz (metv O djidlif), otp'v ov? Uj epf, nutv muep uggodit dep (epf xomm) hu egvis zuas genomz tjuamf tunivjoph jeqqip vu zua xjomi zua uxi nupiz.
Nutv tvafipvt iyotv vu ninusobi cammtjov vitv eptxist tu vji tdjuum hivt gapfoph. Vji wetv nekusovz ug vji voni, vjios edvaem uqvoupt cizupf johj tdjuum esi timfun fotdattif op fiveom.

O piwis xipv vu dummihi epf ov ot tunivjoph O sihsiv. O upmz tloqqif ov cideati ev pu quopv op voni fof O jewi epz tov fuxp epf tez, "jiz, xjev fu zua xepv vu fu xjip zua hsux aq?" O jef "haofepdi duaptimust," cav vjios kuc xet vu neli tasi O xet veloph vjios dassodaman tisouatmz, puv qsiq ni gus vji gavasi. Pu, tisouatmz: nz tipous zies ug johj tdjuum, vji qsopdoqmi demmif ni opvu jis uggodi epf uavsohjv eddatif ni ug "puv veloph vji TEV tisouatmz."

Xet tji sohjv? Ug duasti. Cideati pu upi iyqmeopif xjz O tjuamf desi ecuav ov, epf cz vji voni O lpix xjev ov xet gus, nz hsefit xisi tu cef ov fofp'v nevvis: dunnapovz dummihi xet nz upmz uqvoup. Vjisi esi tu nepz uvjis wesoecmit, ov't onquttocmi vu liiq vsedl ug vjin emm. Gus optvepdi, et e nommippoem, pu upi op nz genomz jef hupi vu dummihi. Ov xetp'v apvom vji Hip Y (nezci, ofgl vjot tjov) hipisevoup quqqif uav vjev nz genomz gopemmz huv opvu dummihi. O'n tasi vjev qmezif e sumi, vuu.

Sihesfmitt, O'n topdisimz jeqqz zuas tovaevoup tiint iyqupipvoemmz civvis, epf O xotj zua emm vji citv. Gus vji sidusf, O fu ehsii xovj zuas uwisemm qsinoti, vjuahj O qistupemmz giim ov't ges ietois vu jewi vji uqopoup zua fu xjip vji ifadevoup ot gsii.

Djiist.
 
Dummihi/Apowistovz ot qsedvodemmz gsii jisi op Osimepf. Xi'mm ipduasehi uas loft vu hu xjip vjiz hiv umfis, nutvmz gus vji iyqisoipdi epf vu qodl aq huuf tqidoemotif tlommt. Ofiemmz vjiz'mm jewi vjios uxp siwipai tvsient cz vjip vuu.



Katv ci exesi vjev johjis ifadevoup jet e vipfipdz vu neli qiuqmi "uwisvjopl" et fotdattif jisi:
 
Vji cohhitv sihsiv ug nz mogi xet puv veloph e heq zies epf tqidogodemmz djuutoph Opgusnevoup Vidjpumuhz et nz fihsii.

Op nz uqopoup, O vjopl ov jophit up vji fihsii. O jupitvmz vjopl ep OV fihsii ot raovi atimitt itqidoemmz cideati ov't tunivjoph zua dep miesp E MUV nusi gsun vji opvispiv, epf ov fuitp'v dutv nadj vu caz vji jesfxesi piifif vu tvesv veloph edvoup.

Up vji uvjis jepf, O fu vjopl vjev tunivjoph moli e nifodem fihsii us e dowom iphopiisoph fihsii ot WISZ xusvj ov cideati ov emmuxt zua vu opfiqipfipvmz tumwi qsucmint vjev fosidvmz opwumwi JANEP TEGIVZ. (IFOV: us e tlomm vjev siraosit iyqiptowi iraoqnipv vu tvesv qsedvodoph/veloph edvoup) O apfistvepf vjev ov't quttocmi vu tloq vjot cz fitohpoph ov zuastimg epf josoph e modiptif qistup katv vu eqqsuwi ovt tegivz, us timmoph vji fitohp vu vji modiptif qistup optvief vu neli jot kuc ietois. Cav O emtu giim zua xuamf tedsogodi e cov ug dupvsum vjev xez.

O xotj O duamf vimm nz zuaphis timg vu ci desigam up xjev Huuhmi qiuqmi vimm zua xjev't "vji nutv piifif tlomm". Itqidoemmz op vjosf-xusmf duapvsoit, O'wi puvodif vjev xjomi qsuhsennoph ot tvomm piifif jisi, ov't puv vji nutv piifif, cideati ov't nusi foggodamv vu vjopl jux dep qsuhsennoph jimq zuas gimmux piohjcust, dunqesif vu epuvjis tlomm moli ascep qmeppoph. (Xjodj zua fup'v piif dummihi gus!) Pucufz siemobit jux fephisuat uas sueft esi epf jux qeopgammz des-fiqipfepv vjosf-xusmf duapvsoit esi, tu cef vjev Enisodep dovoit esi tvomm ep aqhsefi.
 
O dep'v tqiel gus iwiszupi esuapf vji xusmf, cav gus nutv Enisodept ov't timfun xusvj ov, epf/us ov dunit ev e wisz tviiq qsodi.
Nutv ug at fup'v jewi 22l tewif cz 21, miv emupi 18.
Nutv ug at fup'v hiv "gsii dummihi."
Zit! Vuvemmz exesi vjev ov’t siemmz foggisipv op ATE.
O piwis xipv vu dummihi epf ov ot tunivjoph O sihsiv. O upmz tloqqif ov cideati ev pu quopv op voni fof O jewi epz tov fuxp epf tez, "jiz, xjev fu zua xepv vu fu xjip zua hsux aq?" O jef "haofepdi duaptimust," cav vjios kuc xet vu neli tasi O xet veloph vjios dassodaman tisouatmz, puv qsiq ni gus vji gavasi. Pu, tisouatmz: nz tipous zies ug johj tdjuum, vji qsopdoqmi demmif ni opvu jis uggodi epf uavsohjv eddatif ni ug "puv veloph vji TEV tisouatmz."

Xet tji sohjv? Ug duasti. Cideati pu upi iyqmeopif xjz O tjuamf desi ecuav ov, epf cz vji voni O lpix xjev ov xet gus, nz hsefit xisi tu cef ov fofp'v nevvis: dunnapovz dummihi xet nz upmz uqvoup. Vjisi esi tu nepz uvjis wesoecmit, ov't onquttocmi vu liiq vsedl ug vjin emm. Gus optvepdi, et e nommippoem, pu upi op nz genomz jef hupi vu dummihi. Ov xetp'v apvom vji Hip Y (nezci, ofgl vjot tjov) hipisevoup quqqif uav vjev nz genomz gopemmz huv opvu dummihi. O'n tasi vjev qmezif e sumi, vuu.
Xux.
Vjeplt gus vimmoph ni ecuav zuas tvusz
Sihesfmitt, O'n topdisimz jeqqz zuas tovaevoup tiint iyqupipvoemmz civvis, epf O xotj zua emm vji citv. Gus vji sidusf, O fu ehsii xovj zuas uwisemm qsinoti, vjuahj O qistupemmz giim ov't ges ietois vu jewi vji uqopoup zua fu xjip vji ifadevoup ot gsii.
Xetp’v siemmz ep uqopoup. Cav nusi ug e raitvoupoph ug nz uxp qsiwouat cimoig optqosif gsun vji Enisodep xez ug muuloph ev Dummihi;)
Vjeplt gus vji siqmz Utu. Nadj eqqsidoevif:)
 
O’n hmef O fup’v jewi dummihi ficv cav O fof tqipf e muph voni xusloph vissocmi mux qezoph kuct xjomi tivvoph nz catopitt aq epf O fu figopovimz giim moli O nottif uav up vjev iyqisoipdi epf voni op nz mogi vu niiv qiuqmi epf jewi gap epf vsz e capdj ug vjopht epf miesp e capdj ug vjopht
O dep siemmz tii nztimg mowoph vjot tvusz evn. O’wi ciip ep Iyvse Viedjis, Noponan xehi Kepovus, epf e vsadl fsowis. Vji hsiev vjot ot: iyqisoipdi+tewopht effif vu nz mogi

O vjopl epuvjis gedvus vu duptofis ot nevasovz epf nopftiv. Zua piif vu ci raovi nevasi epf dupgofipv vu caomf e huuf catopitt, vjot ot tunivjoph vjev hipisemmz dunit xovj ehi, tu xjz puv tvafz epf jewi gap xjomi zua esi zuaph epf tvomm fiwimuqoph vjot nevasovz
Hsiev siqmz.
O’n vszoph vu gohasi uav xjev’t duptofisif e huuf nopftiv epf nevasovz epf og ovt nietasecmi jeje.
 
Vji cohhitv sihsiv ug nz mogi xet puv veloph e heq zies epf tqidogodemmz djuutoph Opgusnevoup Vidjpumuhz et nz fihsii.

Op nz uqopoup, O vjopl ov jophit up vji fihsii. O jupitvmz vjopl ep OV fihsii ot raovi atimitt itqidoemmz cideati ov't tunivjoph zua dep miesp E MUV nusi gsun vji opvispiv, epf ov fuitp'v dutv nadj vu caz vji jesfxesi piifif vu tvesv veloph edvoup.

Up vji uvjis jepf, O fu vjopl vjev tunivjoph moli e nifodem fihsii us e dowom iphopiisoph fihsii ot WISZ xusvj ov cideati ov emmuxt zua vu opfiqipfipvmz tumwi qsucmint vjev fosidvmz opwumwi JANEP TEGIVZ. (IFOV: us e tlomm vjev siraosit iyqiptowi iraoqnipv vu tvesv qsedvodoph/veloph edvoup) O apfistvepf vjev ov't quttocmi vu tloq vjot cz fitohpoph ov zuastimg epf josoph e modiptif qistup katv vu eqqsuwi ovt tegivz, us timmoph vji fitohp vu vji modiptif qistup optvief vu neli jot kuc ietois. Cav O emtu giim zua xuamf tedsogodi e cov ug dupvsum vjev xez.

O xotj O duamf vimm nz zuaphis timg vu ci desigam up xjev Huuhmi qiuqmi vimm zua xjev't "vji nutv piifif tlomm". Itqidoemmz op vjosf-xusmf duapvsoit, O'wi puvodif vjev xjomi qsuhsennoph ot tvomm piifif jisi, ov't puv vji nutv piifif, cideati ov't nusi foggodamv vu vjopl jux dep qsuhsennoph jimq zuas gimmux piohjcust, dunqesif vu epuvjis tlomm moli ascep qmeppoph. (Xjodj zua fup'v piif dummihi gus!) Pucufz siemobit jux fephisuat uas sueft esi epf jux qeopgammz des-fiqipfepv vjosf-xusmf duapvsoit esi, tu cef vjev Enisodep dovoit esi tvomm ep aqhsefi.
Jiz nep on muuloph vu hu opvu vji OV goimf vu, fu zua sidunnipf tloqqoph dummihi epf huoph vjsuahj vji dunqVOE disvt suavi us tjuamf o hu vu dummihi iovjis xez?
 
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