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IF ______, then ______ ....... the death of so much possibility in this world.

I just spent a week at Disney World for my anniversary and hanging out with other fastlaners.
Think Walt Disney would be changing lives every day using 'IF ____, then I will ____' thinking? Hell no.
Just get started. Do. Action. Record. Talk. Post. Help. Make. Be. Have.

Good luck @BizyDad, keep busting here. I give it a one 1/2 of 1% chance.......

So you're saying there's a chance...

I like this kind of party. This is exactly my kind of jam. You go motivate the ones that are easily motivated.

I've done virtually nothing but action fakes. I made grand claims under the influence of short-lived motivation. It still falls back to the same thing I've been saying all along:

I don't feel ready yet.

I'm sure this disappoints everyone, particularly you @BizyDad, but I really do think I need to do this on my own time. I'm in the gym religiously and I know the metric I want to surpass before I qualify myself as ready. I'm getting there slow. I don't wish to be drawn into another 10 page justification battle as to why I won't start today.

I have no doubts that I'll achieve my ambitions as I truly put my everything into this but it's going to have to be done at my snails-pace.

You think all I got is 10 pages?

View: https://youtu.be/BM-Yf-DXhMM


You don't want to start a handyman business, fine. You don't want to start a flooring business, fine.

I have one question. Have you raised your personal training rates yet?

Holy s*** look at that The market is talking to you...


Is evolt scan accurate or useful? How frequently should one scan that to track improvement? I do have assess to the machine in a gym.

What is your view on cardio vs HIIT vs resistance for fat loss particularly vis fat loss?

For someone who does not cook what are the ready to buy cook food that you suggest? 7-11 cooked chicken breast, subway roasted chicken breast (450 cal),stuffed chicken kebab (450 cal), poke salmon bowl (320 cal) are some of my menu food as they don’t taste horrible and quite easy to track the calories.

Can you answer questions like these, package them in a PDF, and use @Lex DeVille thread as inspiration?

I'm not like these other guys @JLE I'm not here to tell you you're wrong.

But I know this to be true. You already decided you're currently path isn't good enough.

So why are you stuck on it? Probably because it's the only way you've been able to connect the dots A to B to C to D to get to your goal. You think you need to see the whole path, and you think you need to be able to execute the whole path right now, in order to take the first step.

But if you've already decided your current path isn't good enough, then that thought's going to stay in your brain. It's going to eat away at you now.

So really, our conversation isn't about whether you're wrong. It isn't about whether you're ready.

It's only really about deciding what is the next ABCD path that we can get you to believe in.

Did you raise your training rates yet?
 
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I'm not like these other guys @JLE I'm not here to tell you you're wrong.

But I know this to be true. You already decided you're currently path isn't good enough.

So why are you stuck on it? Probably because it's the only way you've been able to connect the dots A to B to C to D to get to your goal. You think you need to see the whole path, and you think you need to be able to execute the whole path right now, in order to take the first step.

But if you've already decided your current path isn't good enough, then that thought's going to stay in your brain. It's going to eat away at you now.

So really, our conversation isn't about whether you're wrong. It isn't about whether you're ready.

It's only really about deciding what is the next ABCD path that we can get you to believe in.

Did you raise your training rates yet?
Man, I really appreciate you and your drive to help someone who, very plainly, does not want to be helped. I sure as hell couldn't do it.
 

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Man, I really appreciate you and your drive to help someone who, very plainly, does not want to be helped. I sure as hell couldn't do it.
The thing is...

I'm as stubborn as @JLE

And I also put my entrepreneurial dreams on hold. Mostly because I didn't know where to start or how to start.

I always wished I had someone like me in my corner.

Now here I am, 30 years later. And I get to choose how I spend my time. I choose to help people like JLE.

Besides, it's not that he doesn't want to be helped. I don't believe that. It's that the things that he's been provided in afforded haven't actually felt like help to him.

And I see a situation like that and say to myself...

There's got to be a better way.

That's the entrepreneur in me coming out.
 
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Is evolt scan accurate or useful? How frequently should one scan that to track improvement? I do have assess to the machine in a gym.
I personally do not use, nor know anybody that uses a scanner such as that. Everything would be based on morning fasted pictures and weigh-ins. For example, taking picture of yourself on Saturday morning alongside the mean (not median or mode) of your weekly morning fasted weight and gauge whether you're progressing in the right direction week-by-week. It really helps to get a coach for this as most people can't objectively evaluate themselves and tend to doubt whether it's working at all since it's such a slow transformation.

What is your view on cardio vs HIIT vs resistance for fat loss particularly vis fat loss?
Depends what you're going for, but if it's fat loss then I'd suggest LISS (Low Intensity Steady State). You can choose the equipment you like for this. Ultimately you should choose one you'll be consistent with. I'd recommend something closer to 6+ days a week as well; it's not only your caloric demands that determine your body composition but also your insulin sensitivity. Cardiovascular health aids greatly with that.

For someone who does not cook what are the ready to buy cook food that you suggest? 7-11 cooked chicken breast, subway roasted chicken breast (450 cal),stuffed chicken kebab (450 cal), poke salmon bowl (320 cal) are some of my menu food as they don’t taste horrible and quite easy to track the calories.
Honestly... What I would recommend is that you start cooking. An air fryer should cost under $100 and basically cooks chicken for you. You'd save money in the long run and the chicken comes out great every time if you have it at the right setting. Alternatively, if you must purchase pre-cooked chicken, make sure it's of quality. I really don't know about the quality of 7-11 chicken breast or subway or what it's made of. You'd have to do your own research for that.
 
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Did you raise your training rates yet?

I appreciate you believing in me. I don't even doubt myself. If anything I'm hyperconfident that I will find success as a bodybuilder/online trainer even when I'm undeserving of such confidence. It's not a matter of if, but when.

I know I will get there but it's exactly as you've said: I don't feel ready yet.

I watched that David Goggins video you posted too by the way, amusingly I've been watching a lot of videos by him lately. I find that he's one of the few motivational speakers that actually resonates with me.

Anyway... on the topic of business... the action fakes I've done so far are:
1.
I bought a tripod
2. I switched gyms to a gym where recording publicly is heavily encouraged
3. The gym I attend has lots of 'fitness influencers' that make an income through fitness and I've spoke with 1 of them

I've also reached out to a bigger name in the industry over Instagram and specifically asked him "how can I make a living through bodybuilding" and he told me what practically all of you are already telling me now. He said verbatim, "focus on being an online coach and your social media rather than being a good bodybuilder lol," which is exactly the opposite of what I'm doing...

I don't know... That's basically what it falls down to... The reality is I want to be what I would consider a good bodybuilder before I feel ready to be a worthwhile online coach. It may not be necessary but I certainly feel like it is. I really hate to defend this endlessly though. Clearly I'm convinced I have valid reasons which everyone defaults to reply "start now" against.

Lastly, about the "training rates" not being raised yet: I've never trained in-person or had an in-person client. I'm certified as a personal trainer but my day job is as a Security Guard. Can't exactly raise the price of something I've never been hired for. Ultimately I'm going for monthly online fitness coaching. It would grant me time-independence and location-independence. My apologies for any confusion there.
 

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I don't feel ready yet.
In life we can either be wise and learn from other people's mistakes.
Or we can do the mistakes ourselves, on purpose.

The first approach might save some time. And given the fact that life is limited, learning and adapting quickly may be the optimal strategy.

I am not saying this to encourage or discourage you from taking action. I understand that people have the freedom to do what they want with their life, and you have already made your choice.

This is the final thing I will say:

If you choose to be the person that is "not ready yet", this is exactly what will happen.

You will be that person. And you will get exactly the results you would expect from that person.



I would like to thank everyone who took their time to comment in this thread.
It's always nice to see when people try to lift each other up. I hope that this spirit will never die on the fastlane forum.
 

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Lastly, about the "training rates" not being raised yet: I've never trained in-person or had an in-person client. I'm certified as a personal trainer but my day job is as a Security Guard. Can't exactly raise the price of something I've never been hired for. Ultimately I'm going for monthly online fitness coaching. It would grant me time-independence and location-independence. My apologies for any confusion there.
Your current rate is zero.

Let's see if we can't get that raised up, ok?

Someday, you might actually be an online coach. Are you going to only coach people that want to be world champion bodybuilders?

Maybe the answer to that question is yes. And if that's the way you want to go, fine.

But I don't know anyone who went fast lane only doing that. They always branch out from that.

If the way you choose the branch out involves you producing content for people who just want to be fit, then I would propose to you that personal training people individually, actually trading time for money, will be to your benefit and will further you along the road to your goals.

First off, it is a higher dollar per hour job than what you have now.

Second of all, you will have real people in front of you, so you can see the actual results that your training has on people.

If you tried to be a social media influencer right now, you couldn't, because you haven't transformed anybody to the level you want to yet.

But right now, you're acting like you are your only client.

Get more clients. Try some other tactics. Develop your own training methods if you have to.

But the other thing that this will do is give you people that you are influencing. So someday when you actually launch your online brand, you will have 10 or 20 or 50 people who already love you and will vouch for your process.

How many people are you going to get if you stay at your security job?
 
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In life we can either be wise and learn from other people's mistakes.
Or we can do the mistakes ourselves, on purpose.

The first approach might save some time. And given the fact that life is limited, learning and adapting quickly may be the optimal strategy.

I am not saying this to encourage or discourage you from taking action. I understand that people have the freedom to do what they want with their life, and you have already made your choice.

This is the final thing I will say:

If you choose to be the person that is "not ready yet", this is exactly what will happen.

You will be that person. And you will get exactly the results you would expect from that person.



I would like to thank everyone who took their time to comment in this thread.
It's always nice to see when people try to lift each other up. I hope that this spirit will never die on the fastlane forum.
I need to stop here too, because the things I want to say would not be helpful to anyone.

So what I will say is this: It is okay to have a day job to pay the bills and a hobby you put your passion into. There's no shame in it, it's a perfectly normal and valid way to live your life; it is in fact what most people do and live happy fulfilled lives.

It is not, however, what this forum is about. If everyone is telling you to get fired up, get started, every hour that passes is another gone forever and you are wasting them by waiting, and your response is just nah ima keep waiting until the winds change or the mood strikes or the bush on the mountain bursts into flame and the Word of the Lord is passed directly to me in the form of stone tablets... Well, it sounds like to me you have a hobby you're pretty passionate about, but you don't really have the drive to be an entrepreneur.

I got off the rails there for a minute. In an effort to make this helpful to someone in the future:

Nothing moves unless you move it. Nothing happens unless you make it happen. Nothing changes unless you change it. If you have a dream, a goal, a desire, a vision of Fastlane-style freedom for your life, the most basic thing you have to do is SOMETHING.
 

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I need to stop here too, because the things I want to say would not be helpful to anyone.

So what I will say is this: It is okay to have a day job to pay the bills and a hobby you put your passion into. There's no shame in it, it's a perfectly normal and valid way to live your life; it is in fact what most people do and live happy fulfilled lives.

It is not, however, what this forum is about. If everyone is telling you to get fired up, get started, every hour that passes is another gone forever and you are wasting them by waiting, and your response is just nah ima keep waiting until the winds change or the mood strikes or the bush on the mountain bursts into flame and the Word of the Lord is passed directly to me in the form of stone tablets... Well, it sounds like to me you have a hobby you're pretty passionate about, but you don't really have the drive to be an entrepreneur.

I got off the rails there for a minute. In an effort to make this helpful to someone in the future:

Nothing moves unless you move it. Nothing happens unless you make it happen. Nothing changes unless you change it. If you have a dream, a goal, a desire, a vision of Fastlane-style freedom for your life, the most basic thing you have to do is SOMETHING.

I for one think that's helpful for some people to read.
 
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If everyone is telling you to get fired up, get started, every hour that passes is another gone forever and you are wasting them by waiting, and your response is just nah ima keep waiting until the winds change or the mood strikes or the bush on the mountain bursts into flame and the Word of the Lord is passed directly to me in the form of stone tablets... Well, it sounds like to me you have a hobby you're pretty passionate about, but you don't really have the drive to be an entrepreneur.
Not until the mood strikes, but until I meet my metric.
 
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Why don't you take a baby step by getting a regular ol' job as a personal trainer? If you don't "feel ready?"

That will get you ready to be a self employed trainer.

Then you can learn more skills from there that will translate to something even bigger.
 
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Why don't you take a baby step by getting a regular ol' job as a personal trainer? If you don't "feel ready?"

That will get you ready to be a self employed trainer.

Then you can learn more skills from there that will translate to something even bigger.
I wouldn't mind this actually. Main reason is fear that I won't make enough to support my living expenses though. I have to presently work 7 days a week as a Security Guard just to stay afloat. Have virtually no savings.

Really not trying to make infinite excuses here... Already seeing the 10 pages of justification coming...

Consider this the ideation and manufacturing process of a business, just one that takes 1.5 years or so to bring to market. It's not that I'm doing nothing. It's that I'm doing it at my pace and I know I'll have a product to sell that's infinitely better than if I tried to sell now.

I know I will start in 1.5-2 years. Not even saying that whilst swept away by emotionalism. It's sober confidence.
 
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Hi @BizyDad ,

I realize you're a busy guy running a successful business, with children, and a life and fitness routine of your own to attend to. But you really are trying to help me and I'd love to keep in contact with you. I'm not sure what I could offer you in return, perhaps fitness advice if you're ever interested, but I really don't think I can start now.

Not only am I not good enough to start now to compete with the other online coaches in the space, but I need to work 7 days a week as a Security Guard to stay afloat. The gym I train at also has a strict no personal-training policy that I signed upon signing up. The time break down just doesn't work for me to train in-person clients.

I really want to make clear that I'm willing to wait before I start making money from this. I'm fine with that. Am I happy with my situation? No I'm not. But I see a way out. I'm confident of this way out. Maybe there's a shorter route, but I don't believe in it.
 
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I wouldn't mind this actually. Main reason is fear that I won't make enough to support my living expenses though. I have to presently work 7 days a week as a Security Guard just to stay afloat. Have virtually no savings.

Really not trying to make infinite excuses here... Already seeing the 10 pages of justification coming...

Consider this the ideation and manufacturing process of a business, just one that takes 1.5 years or so to bring to market. It's not that I'm doing nothing. It's that I'm doing it at my pace and I know I'll have a product to sell that's infinitely better than if I tried to sell now.

I know I will start in 1.5-2 years. Not even saying that whilst swept away by emotionalism. It's sober confidence.
Just start looking. You can't assume that jobs don't pay as much if you don't even look at them. Everything is a process. It sounds like you have a mindset problem, not a life situation problem - have to change your mindset from "this is how things are" to "things unfold as they happen and I can figure them out."

What I mean is this: you don't know what you don't know until you start turning the rocks over. So look into those opportunities and start finding out!
 

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Hi @BizyDad ,

I realize you're a busy guy running a successful business, with children, and a life and fitness routine of your own to attend to. But you really are trying to help me and I'd love to keep in contact with you. I'm not sure what I could offer you in return, perhaps fitness advice if you're ever interested, but I really don't think I can start now.

Not only am I not good enough to start now to compete with the other online coaches in the space, but I need to work 7 days a week as a Security Guard to stay afloat. The gym I train at also has a strict no personal-training policy that I signed upon signing up. The time break down just doesn't work for me to train in-person clients.

I really want to make clear that I'm willing to wait before I start making money from this. I'm fine with that. Am I happy with my situation? No I'm not. But I see a way out. I'm confident of this way out. Maybe there's a shorter route, but I don't believe in it.

The best way to pay me back is to pay it forward.

I am active on the forum because other people read also.

Pursue your dreams relentlessly. Constantly iterate. Try and find better ways to improve your life now.

I understand these new constraints. It doesn't mean there's not a way to improve your life.

It just means that you don't see it yet...

The belief will come after you have the vision.

That's why you're so set in what you have now. You have a vision. And that vision works for you. It feels noble to you to struggle, because isn't that what weight training is all about anyway?

The struggle improves muscles.

All I'm trying to do is help you get that new greater vision for your life. No shortcuts.

The vision has to work for who you are.

And you know your current vision isn't the best, it's just the best you got.

Consider this the ideation and manufacturing process of a business, just one that takes 1.5 years or so to bring to market. It's not that I'm doing nothing. It's that I'm doing it at my pace and I know I'll have a product to sell that's infinitely better than if I tried to sell now.

I see you using my concepts against people already. Well, at least the thought process is sinking in... Lol.
 

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Not until the mood strikes, but until I meet my metric.
You've been on the forum since 2018. You started this thread two years ago. And you haven't done anything.

I think that you really believe you'll hit your "metric", whatever that is, and then it will all fall into place and you'll hit the ground running and it'll all be so easy. I also think that in two years time, you'll have something else stopping you. Might even be the same thing.

And this is where I stop talking, because anything else would veer into that "unhelpful to anyone" category I mentioned before.

Man, I wish you luck, I really do. I hope you figure it out.
 
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@JLE are you currently the person you aspire to be?
then why are you taking advice from you?

(i put this here for other's coming behind you)

if you do not have the success, the methods, the processes, the stacked wins, the track record; why in the world would you listen to yourself about anything??

it's like getting fitness advice from someone in terrible health, and then following it........

challenge: for the next two days, do the opposite of what YOU think you should do and report back. game?
 
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I think that you really believe you'll hit your "metric"

I will. But I have no track record to prove that.

I have enough confidence in this that I believe in me. I know that I will. 2 years time.

You have every right to doubt me. I accept the title of "loser" or "dead-end" until I make something of myself.

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As an aside, thank you for the uplifting comments but I'm going to stop responding. I only wished to be clear about what was actually going on. I have to do this my way and I don't wish to reject another 10 pages of openly given help. Let this thread die for now. I'll reawaken it once I have something worth saying.
 

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I personally do not use, nor know anybody that uses a scanner such as that.

Yeah, see, I have a final thought here...

This sounds like an opportunity. Take a look at a product like this...


This product could set you apart from other trainers. You could be the trainer to take some more scientific approach to training than those in your area.

Some other trainers might say you don't need this. And they might be right. But some clients might appreciate that you have something like this and they don't.

It's a simple value skew.

Also, just a couple more thoughts to keep in mind. If you did have your own personal training business, you would be able to write off your bus fare, your gym memberships, your supplements etc. You are spending money on these things already, which is a big part of the reason why you have to work 7 days a week. But if you had your own training business, maybe you wouldn't have to work as hard because the tax man wouldn't be eating as much of your income.

At that point it's just math. Three personal training clients paying you $800 a month for 3 weekly sessions makes you more money than you're making at your current job. Maybe my number's off. Maybe you need four or five personal training clients.

Even just five training clients, it gives you a whole lot more free time.

You might not even have to quit that new gym you just joined. I don't consider that an action fake. I think you surrounded yourself by other people that are doing what you do. It's an opportunity to improve your skills and learn from others. What's wrong with that?

But maybe in order to enact this other thing, you might have to get a second gym membership. Okay so sign one more client and you'll be able to afford the second gym membership and regular date nights (Yeah, of course I brought it back to that, since we're supposed to be signing off this thread...)
 
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I'm new here, but I have some experience working with online fitness coaches, and I feel like I can contribute here. I read this whole thread, and there is some good advice here.

but Here's my two cents:

The problem you have now is a lack of clarity. You don't really have a problem that you want to solve. You're just bouncing ideas on how to make money. Personally, I don't believe your inaction stems from fear, but rather from a lack of clarity. It's difficult to start something if the steps in between are kind of vague.

I know a common advice is JUST START. but it does help tremendously to do some research to find the highest levrage activity you can do with your current skillset.

So I'll try to paint a detailed picture and make it as clear as possible.

From what I know, if i was in your situation, and wanted to earn money as an online coach, these are the steps that i and most other online coaches take to make six figures:
  1. Post valuable content that solves a specific problem that you know you can solve.
  2. Build a following on Instagram/TikTok (these are the only ones worth it right now) of people that have a specific problem.
  3. Once you've built a big enough following (300-1000), post Instagram stories with a call to action (DM you) to a free ebook/workout plan (takes 10 minutes to make) that gives them valuable info on the problem you can solve.
  4. Now you have people in your DM's that: A) Are dealing with a problem you can solve and B) Are willing to come to YOU to help them.
  5. A couple of back-and-forths later, and you can ask them to get on a call with you.
  6. (The most important part) You get good at selling. If you can, you could probably ask for $2k-$5k for a 3-month program to get them to where they want. Depending on what niche you picked or what you're comfortable with, I suggest you look at Alex Hormozi's video on selling high-ticket.
  7. Coach them. get good at it and actually change peoples lives. if you did a decent job at selling your coaching. your client should be working with you towards REALY worthwile goal that either has to do with their wealth, health and or relationships.
  8. Repeat until very proficient, scale by employing other coaches, run ads... you get the deal.
I'd send you links on very regular people with small Instagram followings making six figures, but I'm not familiar with the rules here.

so source: Trust me, bro.

By far the highest leverage activity with this is posting every day on Instagram. You're going to have to do this every day. The more, the merrier.

But the real question is: what are the posts going to be about? or more specifically What's the problem you want to make your content around?

In the online coaching space, your niche is key. Not what your niche is, but that you even have one.

This will determine the messaging of your posts, what you will write about, etcetera.

If you want to train menopausal moms, then your content should be geared towards that (side note: it's a very lucrative niche, even for male online coaches).

If you'd like to work with men trying to boost their confidence in their life, you should make your messaging towards that.
Use that to write compelling content together with your posts/Tiktok.

Show your progress where you used to be and where you are now. Attract the type of people you genuinely want to and can help.

Once you start getting to the 800-1000 follower range. monetizing your audience is just a series of steps.

Tell me if this was at all usefull. or complety rubish.

And good luck on your entrepenourial journy
 

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I'm new here, but I have some experience working with online fitness coaches, and I feel like I can contribute here. I read this whole thread, and there is some good advice here.

but Here's my two cents:

The problem you have now is a lack of clarity. You don't really have a problem that you want to solve. You're just bouncing ideas on how to make money. Personally, I don't believe your inaction stems from fear, but rather from a lack of clarity. It's difficult to start something if the steps in between are kind of vague.

I know a common advice is JUST START. but it does help tremendously to do some research to find the highest levrage activity you can do with your current skillset.

So I'll try to paint a detailed picture and make it as clear as possible.

From what I know, if i was in your situation, and wanted to earn money as an online coach, these are the steps that i and most other online coaches take to make six figures:
  1. Post valuable content that solves a specific problem that you know you can solve.
  2. Build a following on Instagram/TikTok (these are the only ones worth it right now) of people that have a specific problem.
  3. Once you've built a big enough following (300-1000), post Instagram stories with a call to action (DM you) to a free ebook/workout plan (takes 10 minutes to make) that gives them valuable info on the problem you can solve.
  4. Now you have people in your DM's that: A) Are dealing with a problem you can solve and B) Are willing to come to YOU to help them.
  5. A couple of back-and-forths later, and you can ask them to get on a call with you.
  6. (The most important part) You get good at selling. If you can, you could probably ask for $2k-$5k for a 3-month program to get them to where they want. Depending on what niche you picked or what you're comfortable with, I suggest you look at Alex Hormozi's video on selling high-ticket.
  7. Coach them. get good at it and actually change peoples lives. if you did a decent job at selling your coaching. your client should be working with you towards REALY worthwile goal that either has to do with their wealth, health and or relationships.
  8. Repeat until very proficient, scale by employing other coaches, run ads... you get the deal.
I'd send you links on very regular people with small Instagram followings making six figures, but I'm not familiar with the rules here.

so source: Trust me, bro.

By far the highest leverage activity with this is posting every day on Instagram. You're going to have to do this every day. The more, the merrier.

But the real question is: what are the posts going to be about? or more specifically What's the problem you want to make your content around?

In the online coaching space, your niche is key. Not what your niche is, but that you even have one.

This will determine the messaging of your posts, what you will write about, etcetera.

If you want to train menopausal moms, then your content should be geared towards that (side note: it's a very lucrative niche, even for male online coaches).

If you'd like to work with men trying to boost their confidence in their life, you should make your messaging towards that.
Use that to write compelling content together with your posts/Tiktok.

Show your progress where you used to be and where you are now. Attract the type of people you genuinely want to and can help.

Once you start getting to the 800-1000 follower range. monetizing your audience is just a series of steps.

Tell me if this was at all usefull. or complety rubish.

And good luck on your entrepenourial journy
Now THAT is quite a first post. Good call on not linking out for your first post, BTW.

Welcome new guy. If this is your idea of possible "rubbish" can't wait to see what the "for sure good stuff" looks like.
 
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Let this thread die for now. I'll reawaken it once I have something worth saying.
I still have nothing worthwhile to say, but I do have something to say. Particularly, I want to respond to @Kelani.

Thank you for leaving a comment. I agree with @BizyDad and think you really have made a great first post.

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I'm led to believe that the main problem as to why I fail to find immediate progress in this entrepreneurial venture is because I've entirely made it me-centric. It's all about my wants and I sadly refuse to give them up. I'm foolishly trying to monetize a passion, which is no way to get rich, especially if it doesn't meet a large demand.

In short, I basically:
1. Am working to become a competitive Super-heavyweight bodybuilder as my personal goal
2. Am trying to find a way to monetize that want of mine that nobody but myself should care about

The shoddily devised plan I have, as you've pointed out, is to provide online fitness coaching to the niche of "lifestyle clients" and "eventual bodybuilder competitors", and I only have that as my niche because it's what practically every other Super-heavyweight competitor does to make their income.

The problem with this, and why I haven't started now, is because I am not the best choice when it comes to Super-heavyweight competitors. Many coaches are better conditioned, have competed longer, have pro cards, and simply appear more credible. Looks are such a big deal in this industry. So that's not to say that I'm not in great shape, but on this level, and for who I'm planning to coach — I'm not in great enough of shape. I need to be better and I will be better, but in time.

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I agreed with most of what you said in your post. Instagram and Tiktok are absolutely the places to be if you want to be an online fitness coach. But I'm really not ready. My value skew is significantly out-competed by all of the other available coaches.

Realistically, I think I need to either:
1. Keep working until I'm good enough to begin putting myself out there as a worthwhile coach in this niche
OR
2. Find a different business to build. I don't need to monetize my passion, at least for now

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Regardless, I'm still going to pursue bodybuilding as a passion whether it's ever monetized or not. I really devote my everything to it. But maybe for now I should start looking towards something that's a little less me-based.
 
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Realistically, I think I need to either:
1. Keep working until I'm good enough to begin putting myself out there as a worthwhile coach in this niche
OR
2. Find a different business to build. I don't need to monetize my passion, at least for now

@BizyDad has been very patient with you, but after reading this thread I'm leaning towards @Skroob 's opinion. So let me rephrase what you just said.

"Realistically, I think I need to either:
1. Keep action faking because I'm too scared.
OR
2. Completely chicken out and change businesses because I run away when faced with doing anything uncomfortable."

Whatever business you decide to run away to, you'll do the same thing you did with this one. There will always be an excuse. Not enough experience, credibility, money, time, etc...

Everyone has felt the way you have at some point in their life. You just have to decide if you want to be a quitter or some one who keeps getting back up, learning more and more from every beat down until they succeed. I'm saying this as someone who used to be like you.


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"Realistically, I think I need to either:
1. Keep action faking because I'm too scared.
OR
2. Completely chicken out and change businesses because I run away when faced with doing anything uncomfortable."
I‘m not led to believe I‘m fearful. I additionally encourage you to doubt me. You have every right to.

In time, I look forward to proving you wrong.
 

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Would like to thank once again for all the people that have posted gold in this thread.

You may not be able to help OP, because some people don't want to be helped, and that's ok.

But rest assured that there are many other users that will read this thread and will learn from OP's mistakes, and take your advice to heart.

I've bookmarked many of the replies in this thread and will use them as reference for the time when my own cognitive biases will start working against me.
 

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Had a client in this space. We focused on getting corporate clients. He basically now trains groups of people in companies, all remotely. Basically positioned himself as a benefit corps can offer their employees. His groups range from life-long chunky corporate women to A-type men who became too successful and spend all day sitting in meetings. He gets a retainer, sends weekly plans and employees can contact him with messages/questions. It's an elite offering, in his case, but you can water it down to fit whatever price range you want to work in.

In his case, LinkedIn was his platform but he didn't do what you see other trainers do on LinkedIn (posting workout videos, etc.). He got his clients by pushing the benefits not the actual workouts/meal plans. For example, for the type As = would you like to up your game even higher?. For the chunky women = do you finally want to meet that last goal/achieve complete success. For business owners = take your team from good to great...etc., etc.

1 month of approximately 2000 LinkedIn invites and he had 125 interested parties, of which, about 25 became clients...that's 25, some being companies, others individuals.

Like all businesses, you need to pin down exactly who you want to work with and go where they are or where they are looking. Do you want to focus on stay at home moms, recent mothers, former athletes, nerds, corporate people? What you shouldn't do is become a generalist... if you're not focused, potential clients won't be able to figure out if you're right for them.
Thank you @Paydette; I have been running a physical therapy practice for over two decades.

However, my business is taking a hit due to the rapid deterioration of the rand (the South African currency).

I am planning to transition to online coaching.

My clients primarily consist of business professionals over 50 and competent individuals over 70.

However, I am uncertain where I can find the 70-year-olds online and whether online coaching suits this age group.

Our long-term plan is to immigrate to a country with a first-world economy.
 
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Bump.
I'm ready to take action.

The past few weeks I've had a lot of activity on the forum. Mainly comments justifying why I'm not ready to start, or DM's asking notable members for special advice that they truly can't give. All of you have told me the same thing repeatedly.

"Just start."

After an armageddon of excuses, I'm ready to start. No more hellfire. No waiting 2 years. I'll start now.

However, and here's the part I'm sure I'll be lynched for: I won't be monetizing myself yet. I'm going to start posting to Instagram and marketing myself as a bodybuilder. My sole focus is to build up a following. I won't be selling anything for the time being.

Maybe this isn't what you all wanted to hear, but this is my start. It's more than I have done in the past 2 years.

The way I look at it, as a part of me still does wish to wait 2 years, is that I could always archive any Instagram posts I don't want to have publicly available anymore. The whole reason I didn't want to start now is because I picture my Instagram feed as an actual resume. I didn't wish to showcase anything but the best. I've overcome that and I'll be starting now and archiving any posts I no longer want up in the future. It'll still probably take me 2 years to get to the standard I'd like for myself as a bodybuilder to represent, but at least by then I should have amassed some form of a following. I even know of coaches with only 15k Instagram followers making over $100k a year. I think this is a good start.

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March 17th, 2023:
Followers:
17 (half of which are bots that followed me)
Posts: 0
Stories: 0
Reels: 0

I'd also like to keep my real name and Instagram private. I'd prefer to not have a history of my activity on the internet. That being said, I'm willing to share my personal information over DM with a select few members to prove that I'm being sincere in my claims.

This is my start.

I haven't started offering any services, nor do I think I'm ready to yet, but I just started posting to my Instagram consistently one week ago. I never ended up starting on March 17th of this year. I started right around the end of September. I now have 7 posts/reels and 70 followers. Lots of stories every day. I'm going to keep making posts every day and simply build a following. I haven't done much in growing myself as a brand, but I've got in even better shape. I at the very least will begin making posts to my Instagram daily and acquiring a following. Maybe an income can naturally evolve from that once people see that I'm clearly in-shape and might have a clue what I'm doing as an aspiring bodybuilder.
 
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I'm pursuing this "income from bodybuilding" goal for the long-term. All I wanted to say is that I'm finally getting my real name out there at the very least. I can still foresee success in this as long as I never quit. I still work a minimum wage job as a Security Guard and just barely get by, so it's all the more motivating to realize this dream of mine. I'm gonna continue by posting my workouts every session on Instagram and continue to build a following under my birth name.
 

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Or you could train / help people and do both. Quit being selfish. Train someone.
 

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