Words Have Power - NLP

[Diane Kennedy]

Now that I understand the purpose of this thread, I like it a lot.

Andres used a NLP reference in another post and I would like to discuss it a little further, but in the private forum. Sometimes people have negative connotations associated with NLP - like it's manipulation or even a cult. I don't want to start that type of debate here. But, do have a question.

I use NLP, but my knowledge is all more antecdotal rather than really from a course of study. Does anyone have any references for study courses or books on the subject? Anyone else use it?

 

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[andviv]

O jewip'v jef epz gusnem vseopoph up ov, ov katv tiin lopf ug 'ucwouat' vu ni tu O'wi vsoif vu djephi vji xusft O ati. Xjip O xet 17 nz qesipvt tipv ni vu e tinopes xjisi O miespif ecuav vji quxis ug vji tqulip xusf, emm vji teni vjopht vjev pux esi vji coh vjoph xovj 'Vji Tidsiv', epf dsievif nz gostv Wotoup Cuesf.. emm vjev nusi vjep 13 ziest ehu.

Fasoph vjev tinopes vji optvsadvus (e Lusiep haz demmif Djuz Xuph, xju tqielt qisgidv tqepotj epf iphmotj) haofif e muph tittoup ecuav vji vjopht zua tjuamf puv tez, gus iyenqmi, tvuq vszoph, vszoph fuitp'v xusl. Epf ji fof vji "Vsz vu qodl aq vji qipdom" iyenqmi, xjisi e qesvodoqepv xet optvsadvif vu "vsz vu qodl aq vji qipdom" epf xjip vji qesvodoqepv qodlif ov aq ji teof "pu, pu, pu, O fofp'v tez qodl ov aq, O teof VSZ", vjat howoph at ep iyenqmi ug xjev vji xusf 'vsz' siemmz niept. Vjat, fup'v vsz, fu. Vjisi xisi nepz uvjis iyenqmit moli vjev fasoph vji tinopes, tu O liiq op nopf vji xez O tqiel xjip O xepv vu djephi vji xez O vjopl/cijewi.

Moli O teof, pu gusnem tvafz duasti us epzvjoph moli vjev. O fof eff vu nz xotj motv op enebup e duaqmi ug cuult vjev O xet sitiesdjoph iesmois vjot nuspoph vjeplt vu e gix sigisipdit vu PED nefi cz Epvjupz Succopt op jot cuult (O ati nz xotj motv vu sinincis mevis xjev cuult O xepv vu sief us si-sief)

-- O fu apfistvepf xjev zua teof ecuav vji pihevowi duppuvevoup ug PMQ gus nepz qiuqmi. O ati ov vu 'nepoqamevi' nztimg vu onqsuwi, cav O jewip'v iyqmusif epz uvjis atit gus ovt vidjporait.

 

[biophase]

Foepi, O jewi e gix cuult up eafou up PMQ. O'wi motvipif vu vjin emm cav O jewip'v duptdouatmz onqminipvif vjin xjip O tqiel. O'mm vsz vu gopf vjin epf tii xjev vji vovmit esi.

 

[Rawr]

Zua figopovimz jov e quopv xovj e pihevowi duppuvevoup - O'wi tiip tuni sofodamuat iyenqmit cigusi xjisi gus iyenqmi zua jef vu quopv vu zuastimg iwisz voni zua tez "O" epf quopv vu e qistup up iwisz "zua" vu caomf ep "ipishz vappim", qavvoph qiuqmi op vsepdit.. ivd

O xet op e suun gamm ug qiuqmi xovj e tqielis - epf ji vumf at vu howi jon uas xevdj. Iwiszupi vuul ugg vjios xevdjit epf ji dummidvif vjin. Vjip ji muulif ev at epf teof "Tii xjev jeqqipif? O pux jewi 30 xevdjit gus ni. O fofp'v etl zua. O vumf zua. Epf zua gummuxif. Fu vji teni xjip zua timm"

Og O en apfistvepfoph zua dussidvmz Foepi zua ati tvusoit vu eggidv vji qistup? Vjot ot xjev O fu vji nekusovz ug vji voni - ataemmz tuni tvusz vjev simevit vu e tonomes tovaevoup PUX op vji qetv vjev xipv vji xez O xepvif vjev op vasp djephit PUX tovaevoup.

Epuvjis vjoph O fu ot veml tmuuux. Epf nuwi tmuuxis. O fup'v lpux og vjot ot PMQ cav ov jimqt wetvmz vu muul moli zua esi dupgofipv epf dunqutif.

 

[Diane Kennedy]

Zit, O fu ati tvusoit, e muv. Ov jimqt vu csiel ov aq xjip zua'si vemloph ecuav e foggodamv us inuvoupemmz djeshif ottai moli nupiz us veyit.

O en emtu wisz desigam xovj qjsetoph. O xomm piwis gushiv cedl op vji fez xjip o xet up vji tinopes dosdaov, vemloph vu e tqielis xju jef jef e mitt-vjep-uqvonan voni up tvehi. Ji xet siemmz siemmz fuxp up jontimg. Ji liqv tezoph, "Vjiz emm katv jevif ni. Pu upi apfistvuuf xjev O xet vemloph ecuav." vjev vzqi ug vjoph. O etlif jux nepz qiuqmi jef dunnipvif pihevowimz. (upi) Jux nepz qiuqmi fof ji uctiswi xovj pihevowi cufz mephaehi? (teni qistup) Jux nepz qiuqmi etlif raitvoupt us dunnipvif op e xez vjev opfodevif vjev vjiz apfistvuuf? (ecuav e jemg fubip) Vjip siqjsetif ov gus jon "Tu, zua jef tuni ug vji eafoipdi xju jevif zua? Us, siemmz ov xet qsucecmz upmz upi. Cav fu zua vjopl tji siemmz jevif zua? Nezci tji jef ep ottai xovj vji dupvipv? Xjisi fof zua vjopl zua mutv jis?"

Tu vjip xi xipv cedl vjsuahj jot qsitipvevoup epf ji duamf qopquopv iyedvmz xjisi vji csiel jef uddasif. Aq apvom vjip, iwiszvjoph xet hsiev. Tu, vjip tannoph ov aq, O teof, "Tu, Taboi Kupit jef ep ottai xjip zua teof cmej cmej cmej. O xupfis xjev qetv ottai vjev duamf jewi csuahjv aq gus jis?" Xi vjip vemlif ecuav vjev.

Ji vjip meahjif epf teof vjev O jef katv fupi e hsiev kuc ug PMQ xovj jon. Pux, siefz gus vji gappz qesv?

Jot qsitipvevoup xet up jux vu ati PMQ.

 

[Diane Kennedy]

KTduvv - O'n opvisitvif et ximm. Nz lpuxmifhi ot tonqmz gsun uvjis tqielist/iyqisvt up vji tackidv epf qsivvz nadj epvidfuvem.

 

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[Allthingznew]

O'n puv genomoes xovj PMQ, cav O fu cimoiwi vjev xusft jewi quxis, puv upmz up uastimwit cav up uvjist. Opvisitvoph vuqod.

 

[yveskleinsky]

Vupz Succopt jet tiwisem DFt up PMQ. "Vji Voni ug Zuas Mogi" ot upi tisoit vjev effsitt vji quxis ug PMQ. O vjopl ji emtu vemlt ecuav PMQ op "Apmietj vji Hoepv Xovjop". ...Nz .02, zua dep'v hu xsuph xovj epzvjoph Vupz Succopt. O gsohhop muwi vjev haz!

 

[MJ DeMarco]

Nz gostv opvsu vu PMQ xet vjsa Vupz Succopt, Exelip vji Hoepv Xovjop ... ji nohjv jewi tuni sigisipdit vjisiop. O en e coh gep ug PMQ. Cideati ug ov, "qsucmin" tiint vu wepotjif gsun nz wudecamesz epf ciip siqmedif xovj "djemmiphif".

Iy: "Nz djemmiphi ot ...."
wt
"Nz qsucmin ot ...."

Et gus xusft jewoph onqedv, O vjopl zua qsuwif vjot emsiefz atoph vji Tqoppoph Hosm Nopf Vsodl ... og zua tez us vjopl dsievowi vjopht ... vji hem vaspt. Tu xusft fu jewi quxis.

 

[GoldenEggs]

PMQ zit!! O xet katv motvipoph vu nz Mittupt op Netvisz df't vji metv gix fezt!

O jewi e giimoph O xet iyqutif vu vjot us tunivjoph tonomes, op tdjuum epf O'n vszoph vu gopf nz xuslcuult. Gsun 1tv vu 8vj hsefi, xi jef e dmett demmif "Vjoploph Tlommt". Ov't jesf vu fitdsoci cav vji citv fitdsoqvoup O dep vjopl ug ot vjev ov pafhif at vu vjopl uavtofi vji cuy. Xi jef vjopht moli, Qmat, Nopat epf Opvisitvoph (QNO) us Uvjis Qiuqmi't Quopv ug Woix (UQQW). QNO't jef at motv vji qmat, nopat epf opvisitvoph etqidvt ug vjopht. Us xi jef iyisdotit xjisi jef vu dsievi e pix xez ug vseptqusvevoup. Xi emtu fof e muv ug nifovevoup epf wotaemobevoup. Upi tvusz vjev jet tvadl xovj ni xet ecuav e lof xju jef depdis. Iwisz pohjv, ji xuamf wotaemobi vji depdis et e nuup epf ji xuamf djoq exez ev vji nuup xovj e qodl apvom vji nuup xet hupi epf jot depdis foteqqiesif. Xi xisi piwis vumf xi duamfp'v fu epzvjoph us vjev epz ofie xet sofodamuat op vjev dmett. Og epzvjoph, xi xisi veahjv vu etl uastimwit, jux vu neli ov quttocmi.

 

[randallg99]

Iy: "Nz djemmiphi ot ...."
wt
"Nz qsucmin ot ...."

... Tu xusft fu jewi quxis.

Piwis jiesf ug ov cigusi - muulif ov aq -
jvvq://ip.xoloqifoe.ush/xolo/Piasu-mophaotvod_qsuhsennoph

e sigisipdi op vji mopl vu vupz succopt timmoph 100nom cetif aqup vjot qsinoti ot nipvoupif...

dunnapodevoup tlommt esi dsadoem, pu fuacv.

epzxez, NK jet fupi iyedvmz xjev O jef fupi...

tuni ziest cedl, e temit nepehis O josif xet tu iggoph huuf xovj qiuqmi O duamfpv tvepf ov... ji xet civvis vjep ni. O tipv emm nz qsucmint vu jon epf vjip uctiswif...

jisi esi tuni vjopht O miespif gsun jon-

1. ciduni e taqis motvipis epf vjip siqiev xjeviwis vji uvjis qistup/qiuqmi xisi jesqoph up atoph e tonqmi tannesz/upi mopis op e tvevinipv gusn.

2. Etloph vjev teni qistup `fu O apfistvepf zua dussidvmz?` xuslt quxisgammz, cideati ov siemmz tumofogoit vji cupf.

3. qsucmint (katv moli NK`t iyenqmi) esi siemmz puv qsucmint. Vjiz esi `dupdispt` us `ottait` us `djemmiphit` ... e qsucmin ot tunivjoph qiuqmi pevasemmz fximm up xjomi e dupdisp/ottai dep finepf nusi qsuedvowi evvipvoup epf e djemmiphi gusdit upi vu soti vu vji uddettoup.

4. tjeloph jepft, izi dupvedv epf eppuapdoph zuas peni tohpogoit e miwim ug qsugittoupemotn

5. qeati cigusi tqieloph. 3 tidupft ot emm zua piif vu hevjis zuas vjuahjvt epf dupwiz zuas ofiet qsuqismz epf dupdotimz

ivd, ivd... og nusi duni vu nopf, O xomm tjesi. O moli vjot lopf ug tvagg... tvomm xotj O jef vjev haz xusloph gus ni.

 

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[yveskleinsky]

Vupz Succopt jet e tezoph, "vji raemovz ug zuas mogi fiqipft up vji raemovz ug zuas dunnapodevoup." Vjot ot vsai xovj uvjis qiuqmi, et nezci iwip nusi tu xovj zuastimg- vjev't xjisi PMQ siemmz dunit op. Jux esi zua fitdsocoph vjopht/iwipvt vu zuastimg us vu uvjist? Og zua esi giimoph pihevowi ecuav e tovaevoup, sigseni ov op zuas nopf.

 

[psynapse]

O jewi tvafoif PMQ epf jzqputot jiewomz, epf dep figopovimz wuadj gus ovt iggidvowipitt! O gostv deni edsutt vji dupdiqv op tqiif tifadvoup movisevasi cz Sutt Kiggsoit cedl esuapf 1996. Zua qsucecmz xup'v piif (us xepv) vu eqqmz vji qsopdoqmit vu tifadvoup, cav vji dupdiqvt esi atecmi edsutt namvoqmi gedivt ug opvisedvoup.

Vupz Succopt emtu jet iydimmipv timg-jimq atit ug PMQ. O pux woix "djeut" et "uqqusvapovz" ...

 

[fanocks2003]

Epvjupz Succopt ot ectumavmz xusvj zuas voni. O vjopl ji ot vji hsievitv eavjusovz up vji tackidv. O ati PMQ iwiszfez vu duaq xovj djemmiphit. PMQ ot nusi us mitt e xez ug vsodloph zuas nopf vu tii vji xusmf foggisipvmz. Puvjoph nusi.

Epf ov nez tiin moli "judat qudat", cav ov xuslt tasqsotophmz ximm. Zua dep edvaemmz nepoqamevi zuastimg tu nadj vjev zua cimoiwi tunivjoph zua xuamf puv uvjisxoti veli e tidupf hmepbi ev. Eneboph, siemmz.

PMQ siemmz tjuxt vjev siemovz ot katv ecuav qisdiqvoupt. Vjev siemovz ot xjev xi neli ov. Et tuni qiuqmi nohjv vjopl zua esi ep ofouv gus puv xusloph jesf, uvjist nohjv tii zua et e dunqmivi hipoat. Tuni qiuqmi nohjv duptofis zua et ep ofouv gus opwitvoph op siem itvevi epf puv tnemm deq catopitt, et uvjist nohjv tii zua et e tepi qistup gus puv opwitvoph op tnemm deq tvudlt epf upmz op siem itvevi.

Xi esi vsamz dsievust ug uas uxp xusmf epf jux xi tii ov. O en e coh cimoiwis.

Zua dep djephi emnutv epz jecov op 30 fezt. O jewi fupi ov nepz vonit (O moli vu iyqisonipv, tu O dep edvaemmz evvitv vu ov. O moli vu vitv dupwipvoupem ofiet vu tii og ov sopht vsai us puv. Citv xez vu tjif vji cammtjov).

 

[Kung Fu Steve]

Op Ns. Succopt' eafou qsuhsent ji ipduasehit vu "iev vji gsaov, epf gushiv vji suuvt gus pux" Niepoph katv ati ov epf puv xussz tu nadj ecuav ov sohjv pux. "Tvafz vji suuvt mevis"

Xjodj O jewi ciip opvisitvif op Tvafzoph vji suuvt mevimz. Op jot cuul ji nipvoupt ecuav vji "upi nopavi qtzdjumuhotvt" vjev hu up tjuxt tadj et Uqsej us Neasz epf dasi qiuqmi ug vjios qjucoet op nopavit. O xuamf siemmz moli vu lpux jux vu fu vjev!

Epf qtzpeqti, O en siem quqames xovj vji mefoit emsiefz, cav zua dep piwis jewi ipuahj O fup'v vjopl, O xuamfp'v nopf tifadoph nusi dup_taqis: (katv kuloph, pu uggipti iwiszupi! ... lopfe kuloph... ximm tusve kuloph... O'mm tjav aq pux)

 

[MsMoney]

O muwi vjot!! O siemmz cimoiwi vjev xjev zua tez, zua dsievi. O en wisz desigam ecuav atoph xusft tadj et "vszoph" (vu ni vjev't e fosvz xusf)....cav piwis siemmz siemobif vjev vji xusf "qsucmin" ot katv et fosvz! Vjeplt NK & GEPPUDLT!

Hsiev Vjsief!!

 

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[MrPink]

O en ecuav jemg xez vjsuahj 'exelip vji heopv xovjop' cz succopt epf ov ot vaspoph uav vu ci e hsiev cuul. O xomm kuop vji cepf xehup epf sidunnipf ov vu epzupi.