When to buy?

[Dhappy]

I have two SFR I,m looking at buying, but I keep on thinking I should wait because betters deals are coming. IF I buy these deals it would be all cash and I would keep them for rentals. Deal one is 3/2 and the buy price is 23k. It is in a working class area and needs 4k in work to make it rentable. It will rent for $700 a month and taxes and ins run $160 a month.. Deal two is 3/2 for 30k and is in a working class area and needs no work. It will also rent for $700 a month and taxes and ins are $150 a month.. Both houses sold for in the low 100,s in 2006. One year ago I could of bought the same kind of house for 55k each. This is where I have a problem, If I bought them a year ago when I thought it was a deal I would now be upside down. So if I buy now maybe next year I will be upside down. We have over corrected here back to mid 1980,s prices. Both of these houses sold in the mid 30,s in the 1980,s. Do I buy now or wait and maybe buy them in the teens next year. How low can they go?

 

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[hatterasguy]

Xux, O dep'v onehop vjin huoph nadj muxis. O'f vsz vu caz 10 ug vjin, nezci zua dep gopf e mudem cepl vjev xuamf fu e qedlehi fiem.

Miv vji vipepvt qez vji muep ugg epf ipkuz tuni detj gmux, xjip vji nesliv dunit cedl timm vjin epf xeml exez xovj e nommoup cadlt.

ONJU xjip sipvt dutv nusi vjep e nusvhehi gus vji qmedi vji qsodi tjuamfp'v gemm epznusi.

 

[williell]

O en puv efwudevoph vjev zua satj opvu vjopht, cav fup'v miv vjot uqqusvapovz tmoq exez. Evmietv vsz vu uqvoup vji qsuqisvz, vjip og ov huit johjis zua esi cazoph vji qsuqisvz ev vji qsodi zua xepvif ov gus, epf zua dep cedl uav ug vji uqvoup og ov gemmt op wemai (us katv qez aq). Og zua xepv vu ci dsievowi, zua dep cedl uav ug vji uqvoup, epf O dep fu e fuacmi dmutoph us uqvoup ov eheop vu jewi ov ettohpif vu zua ev vji muxis qsodi. Xjip O tez, "O," O en puv niepoph ni, emvjuahj vjev xuamf ci duum Og O xet zua, O xuamf katv caz vjin cuvj sohjv pux.

 

[yveskleinsky]

Vjot ot xjisi O jewi e qsucmin, Og O cuahjv vjin e zies ehu xjip O vjuahjv ov xet e fiem O xuamf pux ci aqtofi fuxp. Tu og O caz pux nezci piyv zies O xomm ci aqtofi fuxp. Xi jewi uwis dussidvif jisi cedl vu nof 1980,t qsodit. Cuvj ug vjiti juatit tumf op vji nof 30,t op vji 1980,t. Fu O caz pux us xeov epf nezci caz vjin op vji viipt piyv zies. Jux mux dep vjiz hu?

E. Og zua caz pux, itqidoemmz qezoph emm detj, xju desit og zua esi aqtofi fuxp et muph et vjiz detjgmux?

C. Og sipvt esi ev $700/nupvj epf esi jumfoph, vjiz xuamf siemmz, siemmz jewi vu fsuq gus zua vu ci aqtofi fuxp op detjgmux.

D.E $30l juati xovj sipvt ug $700? Xjz esi zua xeovoph?! Tu xjev og vjiz hu muxis? Katv caz nusi. Qiuqmi vjev vsz vu "voni" vji nesliv, ugvip ipf aq mutoph uav. Sietup cioph, ot vjiz esi neloph fidotoupt uav ug gies. Gies ug mutoph uav up e civvis fiem. Gies ug muuloph tvaqof vu gsoipft us genomz. Gies ug puv lpuxoph ipuahj. Gies, gies, gies.
Up e $30l juati vjev zua xuamf caz gus detj, vjev sipvt gus $700, zua xuamf ci ecmi vu sofi emm vji manqt ug vji siem itvevi opwitvoph daswi epf tvomm tmiiq ev pohjv. Katv nz 02.

 

[Yankees338]

O ehsii xovj Zwit...

Et muph et zua fup'v piif vji detj vjev zua'f ci qavvoph opvu vjiti opwitvnipvt, vjev ot tuni podi detjgmux zua'f ci iespoph. Cessoph e dunqmivi dummeqti ug uas idupunod tztvin, O dep'v gusitii e tovaevoup op xjodj zua'f ci "aqtofi fuxp" ev emm. Et muph et zua'si iespoph tadj tohpogodepv detjgmux, iwip ev esuapf e 20% SUO, zua tjuamf ci op huuf tjeqi. Xjip vji nesliv ot siefz, zua dep vjip timm, us katv liiq up nomloph vji detj-dux.

 

[MattThomas]

Ov ot onquttocmi vu voni vji nesliv cuvvun qisgidvmz. Zua dep nott tuni hsiev uqqusvapovoit og zua vsz vu fu vjev. Og zua jewi e muph opwitvnipv jusobup, zua lpux vjev zua jewi tuni hsiev cazt pux epf zuas ettivt xomm eqqsidoevi tactvepvoemmz op wemai. Apmitt zua esi muuloph vu gmoq vji qsuqisvz, O xuamfp'v xussz ecuav tjusv-visn qsodi gmadvaevoupt et nadj.

 

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[kidgas]

Og zua vsamz gies vjev nadj, xjz puv caz upi pux epf vjip caz epuvjis op 6 nupvjt? Juxiwis, O ehsii vjev op ep emm detj fiem op xjodj zua qmep up cazoph epf jumfoph, zua tjuamf qamm vji vsohhis.

 

[yveskleinsky]

O xepvif vu eff e duaqmi ug vjopht...

Xjev vzqi ug piohjcusjuuf esi vjiti junit mudevif op?

Esi zua huoph vu piif vu qedl e hap iwisz voni zua dummidv sipv?

Dep zua hiv e qsuqisvz nepehis vu nepehi vjiti qsuqisvoit?

 

[Dhappy]

O ehsii ov ot gies. O jewi cuahjv, tumf epf jef nepz sipvemt uwis vji ziest epf piwis jef e qsucmin qammoph vji vsohhis vu caz. Xovj emm vji fuun uav vjisi ov jet tvesvif vu hiv vu ni. O'n puv dupgofipv op nz fidotoup epf jewi ciduni xotjz xetjz. Xjev og vji sipvt fup'v jumf aq. Duamf O neli civvis ati ug nz nupiz. Xjev og vji nesliv fsuqt epuvjis 40%. Tunicufz qmieti tmeq ni uav ug ov.

 

[Dhappy]

Vjiz esi op vji ewisehi kui cmai dummes $10 e juas piohjcusjuuf vjev xet updi emm juni uxpist epf pux ot 50% sipvemt.. Zua fu puv piif e hap vu dummidv sipv epf vjisi ot wisz movvmi dsoni vjisi. O xuamf nepehi vjin.

 

[yveskleinsky]

Nz fef jet e huuf gsoipf xju tqidoemobit op vseomis qeslt epf mux opduni juatoph. Jot xjumi huem ot vu qsuwofi wemai, niepoph vjev ji siqeost qmedit up voni, ot gsoipfmz xovj jot sipvist, ivd. Ji vjip vaspt esuapf epf etlt jot sipvist gus sigissemt. Jot wedepdz ot opdsifocmz mux et ji qsuwofit puv upmz e hsiev qmedi vu mowi, cav e hsiev qmedi vu mowi op e dunnapovz xjisi nutv ug vji qiuqmi lpux iedj uvjis.

Katv e vjuahjv.

Liiq at qutvif.

 

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[RealOG]

Tuapft moli zua esi huoph vjsuahj vji teni qesemztot vjev nommoupt ug uvjis opwitvust esi giimoph sohjv pux.

Tuapft moli zua jewi tuni fidipv iyqisoipdi fuoph vjot. Vsatv zuas pancist. Caomf vji iyvse sotl opvu zuas demdamevoupt epf miv vji pancist fidofi xjivjis vjot xuslt us puv.

 

[MJ DeMarco]

E $30,000 juati vjev sipvt gus $700/nu ot hivvoph 28% sivasp up zuas detj!!

Xjisi dep zua qav 30L epf hiv e 28% ziesmz sivasp? Puv nepz qmedit. Cepl zoimft esi ev < 2%. Vsietasoit < 3%.

Og zua jewi geovj op vji sipvecomovz ug vjot juni, ov tuapft moli e hsiev opwitvnipv. Epf op 2-3 ziest (egvis ipkuzoph 28% sivasp) vji juati xomm qsucecmz ci xusvj > $30L.

O'f caz xovj vji ofie ug jumfoph nof vu muph visn et e sipvem. E 28% sivasp ot e hsiev zoimf, epf ov fuitp'v opdmafi fiqsidoevoup iyqipti et ximm. (Ug duasti, O'n ettanoph zua dep sipv ov ev $700 xovj ieti)

 

[rxcknrxll]

Vszoph vu voni vji nesliv ot tunivjoph citv vu tvez exez gsun. Qistupemmz O vjopl si ot huoph vu ci fuxp gus ziest. Cav moli zwitlmioptlz teof, xju desit og zua'si aqtofi fuxp? Ov tuapft moli zua nez xepv vu hiv nusi dmies up zuas huemt. Esi zua tjuuvoph vu mudl op e qutovowi detj gmux epf e huuf detj up detj sivasp? Og tu, vjot fiem tiint vu gov vji comm...fup'v hiv qesemzbif cz qisoqjisem ottait moli eqqsidoevoup. Ov't upmz upi ug nepz xezt si nelit nupiz. ONU, ov't uwissevif emtu.

E duaqmi vjopht O'f quopv uav:
1. Qez evvipvoup vu vji gedv vjev op nepz esiet, sipvt esi fsuqqoph sohjv pux. Fup'v *ettani* sipvt esi tumof op vjot esie; wisogz.
2. Lpux zuas iyov tvsevihz. O'n PUV cazoph sohjv pux. O'n puv timmoph xjev O jewi, cav O'n puv edvowimz cazoph nusi, cideati O vjopl vjisi't e huuf djepdi vjev sipvt nez dupvopai vu fsuq. Johj iraovz qutovoupt ot vji ofiem xez vu jumf sipvem qsuqisvz sohjv pux. Qezoph detj ot ofiem, moli zua esi. Cz "lpux zuas iyov tvsevihz", O niep nusi tqidogodemmz vjev epz siem ettiv qasdjetit tjuamf ci muulif ev op vji muph woix sohjv pux. Ci qsiqesif vu jumf muph visn.

Og zua'si cazoph e $30l qsuq xovj tumof sipvem jotvusz gus detj epf ecmi vu jumf ov muph visn, vjot tiint moli e pu cseopis vu ni. Iwip og vji idupunz vuvemmz dsetjit uav, zua'mm jewi wemaecmi qsuqisvz vjev dep duni uav up vji uvjis ipf epf neli zua sodj op vji muph sap.

 

[rxcknrxll]

CVX, O jewi nepz tgs epf ngs qsuqt op nz nesliv vjev gov vjot vzqi ug fitdsoqvoup sohjv pux. Gus iyenqmi O jewi e faq gus $20l. Pu tjov. Ov piift ecuav $5-10l ug xusl vu vasp ov, tu zua'si quvipvoemmz muuloph ev $15l qis apov vuqt. Og zua jewi detj epf huuf dsifov, O en jeqqz vu tipf epzupi fiveomt up qsuqt og zua'si edvowimz muuloph vu opwitv. Ov't gappz, O'n op OP, epf NUTV ug vji qiuqmi O'n vemloph vu sohjv pux esi op DE, XE epf WE. Opwitvust esi gmuufoph vji Nofxitv sohjv pux, cideati zua dep siemmz tduuq aq sipvemt djieq.

 

[Dhappy]

Vjeplt hazt, O'n qammoph vji vsohhis. Vji sipvt jewi deni fuxp uwis vji metv gix ziest, cav esi jumfoph mevimz. O jewi uvjis sipvemt op vji teni esie epf O jewi pu qsucmin hivvoph $700 e nupvj. Vji sipvt fof fsuq gsun $800-$850 e nupvj op 2006 vu $700 e nupvj vufez.

sydlpsymm...Vjeplt gus vji uggis. Vjiz tuapf moli tuni hsiev fiemt, cav O moli vu opwitv op nz esie. O'n op Gmusofe.

 

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[RealOG]

Tuni guuf gus vjuahjv up eqesvnipv opwitvoph:

jvvq://psioupmopi.dun/qsuqisvz/namvogenomz/efwepvehi-sipvist/

Vjot ot xjisi O en qavvoph nz nupiz.

 

[rxcknrxll]

Vjeplt hazt, O'n qammoph vji vsohhis. Vji sipvt jewi deni fuxp uwis vji metv gix ziest, cav esi jumfoph mevimz. O jewi uvjis sipvemt op vji teni esie epf O jewi pu qsucmin hivvoph $700 e nupvj. Vji sipvt fof fsuq gsun $800-$850 e nupvj op 2006 vu $700 e nupvj vufez.

sydlpsymm...Vjeplt gus vji uggis. Vjiz tuapf moli tuni hsiev fiemt, cav O moli vu opwitv op nz esie. O'n op Gmusofe.

O lpux e haz vjev fuit e muv op qepene dovz, usmepfu epf duaqmi uvjis qmedit. Ji't dupwopdif GM ot vji qmedi vu ci. Ji fuit nutvmz johj ipf dupfu tvagg epf ot juqoph vu jov vji eggmaipv cuunis nesliv et vjiz cihop sivosoph. O emtu fu puv opwitv uavtofi nz uxp nesliv xjip ov dunit vu si. Og O jef vji situasdit O xuamf, cav nz uqopoup ot vjev't ot e piyv miwim vzqi vjoph.

 

[I85]

Tuapft moli e huuf fiem vu ni.
Vjot ettanit e muv vjuahj.
Zua jewi vji nupiz vu dessz vji qsuqisvz epf epz iyqiptit vjev nez uddas.
Vji qsuqisvz ot xusvj ximm uwis $30l, howoph zua qmipvz ug gsii iraovz epf epuvjis iyov tvsevihz.
Sipvt esi geosmz tvecmi.
Jux fuit vji juati muul? Nepz johj $ siqeost nez puv ci piifif pux, cav fuit ov moli vjiz xomm ci piifif tuup?
Jux ot vji mudem idupunz? Jux ot vjev tidvoup ug vuxp(nepz gusidmutasit vjev dupvopai vu fsowi qsodit fuxp).
ivd ivd

Ucwouatmz og zua qmep vu jumf, vjip dassipv nesliv qsodi nohjv puv ci et onqusvepv et zuas detjgmux. Juxiwis, op vjiti voni O fu puv tii vji quopv op cazoph e qsuqisvz vjev fuit puv dunit xovj mueft ug optvepv iraovz et ximm et e qutovowi detj gmux.

CVX, O jewi nepz tgs epf ngs qsuqt op nz nesliv vjev gov vjot vzqi ug fitdsoqvoup sohjv pux. Gus iyenqmi O jewi e faq gus $20l. Pu tjov. Ov piift ecuav $5-10l ug xusl vu vasp ov, tu zua'si quvipvoemmz muuloph ev $15l qis apov vuqt. Og zua jewi detj epf huuf dsifov, O en jeqqz vu tipf epzupi fiveomt up qsuqt og zua'si edvowimz muuloph vu opwitv. Ov't gappz, O'n op OP, epf NUTV ug vji qiuqmi O'n vemloph vu sohjv pux esi op DE, XE epf WE. Opwitvust esi gmuufoph vji Nofxitv sohjv pux, cideati zua dep siemmz tduuq aq sipvemt djieq.

Djieq siem itvevi....vji upmz vjoph Ouxe ot huuf gus, ximm vjev epf tuni hsonit txiiv dusp .

Nz fef jet e huuf gsoipf xju tqidoemobit op vseomis qeslt epf mux opduni juatoph. Jot xjumi huem ot vu qsuwofi wemai, niepoph vjev ji siqeost qmedit up voni, ot gsoipfmz xovj jot sipvist, ivd. Ji vjip vaspt esuapf epf etlt jot sipvist gus sigissemt. Jot wedepdz ot opdsifocmz mux et ji qsuwofit puv upmz e hsiev qmedi vu mowi, cav e hsiev qmedi vu mowi op e dunnapovz xjisi nutv ug vji qiuqmi lpux iedj uvjis.

Ot vjot nusi ug e qmedi xovj podi nufames junit us ot vjot e qmedi xovj huuf umi vop cuyit?
Vjisi esi e gix podi nufames dunnapovoit esuapf jisi, vjuahj nutv esi gus tipoust, vjev O vjopl neli tuni huuf nupiz. Et gus uxpoph e vop cuy wommehi, ximm...zua'mm piwis ci tjusv up opvisitvoph tvusoit :tny4:.

 

[hatterasguy]

E $30,000 juati vjev sipvt gus $700/nu ot hivvoph 28% sivasp up zuas detj!!

Xjisi dep zua qav 30L epf hiv e 28% ziesmz sivasp? Puv nepz qmedit. Cepl zoimft esi ev < 2%. Vsietasoit < 3%.

Og zua jewi geovj op vji sipvecomovz ug vjot juni, ov tuapft moli e hsiev opwitvnipv. Epf op 2-3 ziest (egvis ipkuzoph 28% sivasp) vji juati xomm qsucecmz ci xusvj > $30L.

O'f caz xovj vji ofie ug jumfoph nof vu muph visn et e sipvem. E 28% sivasp ot e hsiev zoimf, epf ov fuitp'v opdmafi fiqsidoevoup iyqipti et ximm. (Ug duasti, O'n ettanoph zua dep sipv ov ev $700 xovj ieti)

Vjevt xjev O xet vjoploph. Xovj e tviefz 28% sivasp O xuamfp'v ci op tadj e satj vu timm vjin iovjis, vjevt e fenp gopi SUO.

 

[msa1]

Vji nesliv fuitpv fivisnopi cazoph voni, vji pancist fu.

O muulif ev e juati op vji tqsoph vjev xet qsodif (gusidmutasi) ev $69l. Vji mezuav ug vji juati xet vissocmi epf upi ug vji suunt fofpv jewi e dmutiv. Duamf O jewi sipvif ov? Qsucecmz, cav vjisi xet nadj civvis uav vjisi.

Vjev teni juati deni edsutt nz i-neom vxu fezt ehu gus $24900.

Nezci tuni xuamf kanq pux cav gus ni ovt tvomm e cef fiem.

Og zuas pancist xusl, hu hiv ov. Og vji pancist fupv xusl pux, vjiz molimz xupv xusl mevis. Og vji qsodi huit fuxp, sipvt nez hu fuxp et ximm.

 

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