What "The Founder" can teach all of us

[Andy Daniels]

I just finished watching The Founder for the 3rd time, and WOW talk about a great film! Michael Keaton delivers an awesome performance as Ray Kroc.

Kroc's simple method for success was just one word: Persistence

I think this is absolutely brilliant, given that so many would-be entrepreneurs give up so quickly hoping to skip the process and go straight to the event. Nothing worth having in this life comes easy, and this movie illustrates that perfectly.

It's certainly something to watch to give you a slap of inspiration and reality.

If you want something, if you REALLY want something, you must be persistent, and whatever roadblocks come up, you gotta keep climbing.

 

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[biophase]

I got something completely different out of the movie: don't make bad deals. In the movie Kroc completely screwed over the McDonald's brothers. However, the movie isn't quite true to real life as it seems (google).

My major takeaway is: don't make bad deals and watch out for guys like Kroc.

Where would the McDonald's brothers be without Ray Kroc? Would they have made $1,000,000 each? Or would they have had a single restaurant and we would never have heard of them? Because of Ray, we know who they are years after their deaths and their names will forever be remembered.

I didn't see any good or bad guys in this movie. The 2 brothers built a great system but obviously could not expand it and would have never done so if Ray did not come along. I doubt they would have gone anywhere.

The brothers made him head of franchising but then did not care about the franchisers making money. They should make decisions that allow the franchisers to thrive instead of shooting down good ideas. That's where Ray helped them the most.

I also think Ray's purchasing the land under was fine. It's not like the brothers would have ever come up with that idea.

Basically two different types of people. The 2 brothers were fine running a single restaurant and getting by. Ray wanted a huge empire. Both had different goals. And we all knew that the handshake deal was never going to happen. Would have been out of character for Ray.

 

[MJ DeMarco]

Perhaps it's Hollywood simply vilifying Ray Kroc for the movie.

Ya mean Hollywood casting the entrepreneur/business owner as an evil rich guy? Nawwwww....

 

[SparksCW]

I saw that too, thought it'd be a bit bland but it ended up being one of my favourite films.

Persistence for sure, but that's not the biggest take away from the film.

The biggest take away for me is to focus on what will actually make the money.

He was persistent but wasn't making money, then once enlightened to how the property would make the real money, coupled with more persistence, then the results came..

I'm not saying money is in the property, I'm saying find the thing that will make the money, and be persistent with that. Guess it's the same as the 80/20 rule!

 

[100k]

Saw it last night.

Quite a few good lessons from it; many of them are taught by our great teacher M.J.

1) Stop chasing money and trying to make a quick buck. Provide REAL value (Kroc was struggling selling shitty products and had a negative reputation with the banks because of it).

2) 80/20 rule; find out what is selling, find out what's not. And focus your energy on whats selling and cut the rest.

3) Being great at sales doesn't matter if all you have to offer are shitty products. Seems to be great at selling, the problem was that the products he was selling didn't provide any real value to people and that was the reason why he couldn't go anywhere for a long time.

4) Systems, Systems, Systems. They make all the difference. 3 Words: Standard Operating Procedure. That's what allowed McDonald's to deliver food in 30 seconds compared to the 30 min. every other restaurant was delivering food at.

5) Branding is key. What makes YOU different. What value is stored in your brand; what do you promise to deliver? The McDonalds brand promises to give you the same decent tasting burger, fries and shakes at their location in less than 3 min. in a family friendly and clean environment. Make sure your brand stands for something and ALWAYS deliver what you promise.

6) Fix problems. The McDonalds brothers set out to fix some of the most common problems they found at drive-in restaurants.
Things like slow delivery of food; they created a system for that and now can deliver food in less than 60 seconds. Costly utensils... they scrapped that all together; no glasses, no plates, no forks... everything comes in wrapping or plastic that is used once and then scrapped; that saved them money by not needing to waste money on washers. Waiters - got rid of them, and now you pick up your own food. Juke Boxes that played music and attracted bad-a$$ teenagers that don't spend a lot of money and just waste time; got rid of the juke boxes and made the place a family friendly environment. etc.

7) Disrupt the industry! Why the heck do you need waiters, washers, juke boxes, plates & utensils? Get rid of it and get lean. Create systems to cut down delivery speed and improve efficiency.

8) You need a council of advisers. Without them you can't protect yourself from sharks, being sued, new laws/requirements etc.

Without the chance meeting of mister Harry Sonneborn, Mr. Kroc would never have solved his money problem and been able to turn his little franchise business into a giant corporation that operated on a global level. Have a council of smart people; lawyers, board members, accountants, consultants and financial experts.

9) The business world is ruthless. And you need to be prepared to go toe to toe with the sharks and the tigers or you need to step out of the battle arena.

10) Contracts should be air tight. The McDonalds brothers were f*cked out of $100 mil+ in annual royalties because they believed that a hand shake meant something.

11) If you want to really take off, you need to learn how to raise capital.

TL;DR Over-all, a decent movie with a lot of lessons to teach.

 

[JasonR]

I just finished watching The Founder for the 3rd time, and WOW talk about a great film! Michael Keaton delivers an awesome performance as Ray Kroc.

Kroc's simple method for success was just one word: Persistence

I got something completely different out of the movie: don't make bad deals. In the movie Kroc completely screwed over the McDonald's brothers. However, the movie isn't quite true to real life as it seems (google).

My major takeaway is: don't make bad deals and watch out for guys like Kroc.

 

[Scot]

The best part about watching The Founder was when my wife says to me afterwards, "I don't agree with everything he did, but we can both agree his ex-wife was useless."

As someone who's been struggling to get his wife to understand my entrepreneurial spirit, that was music to my ears.

Ps, don't know if it's been mentioned, Founder is on Netflix now.

 

[lewj24]

Where would the McDonald's brothers be without Ray Kroc? Would they have made $1,000,000 each?

That is equivalent to $8 million after taxes for each McDonald brother if you adjust for inflation.

 

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[BlindSide]

Just imagine the progress thread..

 

[ZF Lee]

One major lesson I took was that 'Don't F*cking reinvent the wheel'.
I'm going to say that McD's execution strategies such as a duel cashflow strategy (real estate leasing and sales of fast food combined) and SOPs for speedy prep of food have had its basis long ago.

Real estate transactions have been practised since time immortal.
Production of food can be likened to an Industrial Revolution style of manufacturing physical products.
Many of McDonald's concepts were there long before Ray Kroc came along.

Thus, I think we may need less creativity than we fear it might take...we just need to know our aims and challenges and use available methods or strategies to solve them. As I understand, true creativity as hyped by traditional SCRIPT media is in reality hard to nurture...thus we can't hope for it to be a bread and butter kind of thing.

Another lesson is 'Work on the business, not in it.'
Although Ray did work with the McDonald brothers, he didn't need to be a worker there at the burger friers. But he was involved in financing and prospecting for franchisees. Had he been tied to the actual running in the day-to-day operations, he wouldn't be able to have time or energy to solve its external problems.

Finally, the last lesson is simple. 'Monogamy'
There's a lot of talk on how Ray Kroc screwed people by putting up powdered milk instead of fresher but more expensive milk.
While its a legitimate claim, this is the fast food industry. The USP here is fast and convenience.
McDonald's excelled best not just because of the financing techniques, but also because they stayed true to their USP, when they could have swayed away to something else.
And when you stay true to your USP, the promise you give to your customer, they will honour your dedication by coming back.

On a separate note, I think the refusal of Ray Kroc to give royalties to the brothers might be justified.
They were not going to be part of McDonald's operations to provide value. It was a cash out.
If you don't play the game, you don't win it.
The money could have dedicated to perfecting more products and upgrading infrastructure rather than throwing it at some people who chose not to have anything more to do with the project.

And of course, their refusal to have everything black and white and demand for rent in terms of royalty (MJ spoke a lot of it in UNSCRIPTED ) shows that their work traction must have fell to pieces. Jeez I hope I don't end up like that...gives me the chills!

But of course, I wouldn't encourage screwing people with such tactics. But in this case, Ray Kroc needed to eliminate the last barriers to satisfy the commandment of Control; the founders. Founders will criticise you like crazy at times if you were in Kroc's shoes. And if you can eliminate them legally, cost efficiently, why not? And they still got paid millions, and in those days, it was quite a bounty considering the purchasing power of that time.

Reminds me of Colonel Sanders from KFC, who at least held onto Canadian franchises and appearance payments, which were quite lucrative too. Last word on founders or first-comers: Pioneers get shot, settlers get rich lol.

 

[ljean]

The main thing I learned was how important it is to own the real estate. Kroc basically owned McDonalds and could do whatever he wanted because he owned all of the land underneath almost every one, leaving the brothers with one option, sell Kroc's business to Kroc.

I had never thought about this situation before this movie and later read Sam Walton got kicked out of his first Ben Franklin store because his lease was up and they didn't want him back. (He went on later to buy stores with 99 year leases)

I still don't understand this. Yes someone else owns the land so they can evict you. Makes sense. But don't you own the building? Everything inside? How can they just 'kick you out'?

What am I not understanding here?

When a land lease is up, typically one of following things happens:

1. You renegotiate the lease. (the landlord has you over a barrel if you want to stay)
2. You buy the site. (again, over a barrel)
3. The landlord gets the land back with the building on it and you get the boot.

If you have to lease land you want a looooong lease term.

 

[MidwestLandlord]

He had to switch because he already f*cked up by expanding so damn fast which had EXACTLY the effect the brothers were concerned about, an inevitable drop in quality, perhaps not a laziness based quality drop, but a drop nonetheless.

In my opinion, the brothers were stuck in a mindset of what THEY wanted, and Kroc was listening to the only thing that matters: the market. If the quality was too low for the market, then it would of been rejected by the market. Instead, his sales exploded.

The market (people) is (are) smarter than people give it credit for. Hard to argue with market demand.

If I think "the market shouldn't want this!" but yet it DOES or "the market should want this!" but yet it DOESN'T... who's wrong? Me or the market?

It could have ended up like this:
ray croc creates a few local franchises that source food from the same places and are easily hands on managed(due to locality).
...
As technology improves and ray's experience grows, he can now consider expanding further with less unforeseen risks

Look at the huge demand Kroc discovered with McDonald's.

If Kroc had not filled this need, someone else would have.

So his biggest risk was that someone else would have came along and nationally franchised, putting a regional franchise at a significant disadvantage for national expansion later.

Whether Kroc understood consciously how competitive that sector was about to become is debatable, but if he hadn't been first it's unlikely that McDonald's would have been as successful as it was.

Over the next several years he earns a small fortune and becomes close friends with the brothers who are thankful that he hasn't betrayed their vision of quality, and didn't go crazy franchising.

This is assuming his motivation was wealth.

There is no way to know what is motivation was from a movie or book.

But I can tell you, money means very little when you have some of it.

Things like legacy take on much more importance.

Maybe he did it just because he could?

I still feel that if the brothers really were the type of people portrayed in the film, ray shoulda started off slower and get closer to them, become long term friends.
I think then he wouldn't face such backlash when it came time to alter construction for the different locations.

In my experience, people very quickly throw the "friend" portion of the relationship out the window if you are in business with them.

In fact, most will use the friend part as leverage against you to get what they want.

It's human nature to not want to be wrong, and you're a bad friend if you think they are wrong and disagree with them.

Tl;DR

I find it hard to judge a man that filled a need in the market so well that it became a multi-billion dollar empire.

 

[carlos_]

The biggest take away for me is to focus on what will actually make the money.

Same for me - It shows a good idea isn't enough.

Ray Crock knew he had a winning idea that delivered value to the public and to the franchisees. He persisted with a growth mentality thinking if we just get to x stores, everything will work out.

One problem was he gave too much control to the franchisees (from a starting point of low control being under the thumb of the brother's strict contract). Franchisees could violate the execution plan without fear of repercussions - hurting the brand.

 

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[Guest06196]

Where would the McDonald's brothers be without Ray Kroc? Would they have made $1,000,000 each? Or would they have had a single restaurant and we would never have heard of them? Because of Ray, we know who they are years after their deaths and their names will forever be remembered.

True. A lot of people only think Ray took something from the brothers (I initially did too), but he also created and gave back a lot.

My take is, always think what other people want and see if their interests align with yours in any deal. When he first partnered with wealthy retirees the restaurants didn't do well because these people only wanted the return instead of putting in real effort. It's when Ray found younger, aspiring people that the franchise took off.

 

[TheRegalMachine]

I have doubts as to how true to life the movie was

All movies based on real events are spiced up, have things omitted, and/or out right lie.
The Founder is no different. It doesn't even acknowledge that Ray Kroc had children and was married multiple times before Joan his last wife. They wanted to play up the long suffering wife gimmick so all of that was left out. (The attempt failed imo because the character Ethel came off as un-supportive and selfish. But was a great example of the spouse who doesn't understand their ambitious entrepreneur partner.)

I really suggest reading "Grinding It Out" along with watching "The Founder" because you can kind of see the truth between the two accounts.

 

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[luniac]

just saw the movie.

based on the movie alone, ray croc is a bastard. I was on his side until the one crucial scene, the instamix scene.
It was the very moment he took a sip of the bullshit powder instamix and said "tasted like a damn good milkshake to me" or whatever his line was.
That right there was him saying that he is OK with sacrificing quality for profit.
It was all downhill from there like his comment to the brother over the phone, "if I see a fellow competitor drowning ill stick the water hose in his mouth".

And what Ray Kroks legacy? a restaurant chain universally known to be low quality "food" that'll slowly kill you.

Was it worth it Ray? was it?

and what's all the attention to the name McDonalds, yea its a great name but I think the real winner is the speedee system, the fast service that revolutionized what a restaurant could be.

And yes of course I respect "the hustle" at 50+.

 

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[BlindSide]

Watched it last night because of this thread. I was hooked, pretty good movie.

My biggest lessons (all of which have already been mentioned):

1. Cutting out the fat: Before Ray even came into the picture, the brothers had already created something remarkable. They had the guts to cut out all of the selections, and focus on the 3 main things that accounted for 87% of sales... then found a at to cut down delivery time to ~30 seconds! When you can save people time, it's a powerful selling factor.

2. Systems: the way they even organized the kitchen and trained the staff to operate as a unit reminds me of professional sports. Every player knows exactly what their role is, and they all gel together to create a masterful play (system in this case).

3. Momentum: This was pretty big for me, because this show really displayed what MJ talks about in terms of process. Obviously it was sped up, but you could still see how Ray was struggling for a while, even when he had this behemoth of a business forming. But once he discovered how to maximize profits and expansion.. he had tunnel vision. He tripled down and went nuts with expansion (and power hungry!)

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Side bar: Probably my favorite part of the whole show was that my girlfriend was REALLY into it. I was approaching it from a viewpoint of business lessons, while she was just enjoying a good movie.

But, since she isn't really interested in owning a business or anything like that (wants to be a Physical Therapist), I think it was cool to see how into it she was. To me, it seemed that she enjoyed it because she was seeing a story of how such a successful franchise today was started. And, she was
seeing how Ray was experiencing so much success because he was creating so much value, and capitalizing on it.

I'll need to ask her more, to see if my opinions were correct. But if so, it would be cool to show her how that type of process and value is still possible today (maybe I'll show her Liqwid's massive progress thread!).

 

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[Chromozone]

I watched the movie last week due to this thread. Really enjoyed it!

As others have mentioned, I thought it was interesting how Kroc was struggling scaling the business as he was making such little profit initially. I can't remember who said it but I heard that "A startup is a business looking for a scalable business model". This movie really hammers this point home!

I personally didn't have too much sympathy for the brothers as they just didn't seem interested in helping to franchise and expand the company. I mean, Kroc mortgaged his own home in his 50's and arguably risked a lot more than the brothers, grew the company and bought them out. Can't see too much wrong with that!

There are plenty of companies that outgrow the initial founders.

 

[PetePreneur]

I took away 2 key lessons from it all:

1. Focus purely on where the money is. This was brought up when the McDonald's brothers said that they focussed on hamburgers only because they were making 87% of their sales from them. This allowed them to be more efficient and make it a fast food restaurant.

2. The business model is extremely important. This was brought up when they changed it from taking a percentage of each burger sale, to changing it to a retail/leasing structure that allowed him to start making a profit.

 

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[TheRegalMachine]

he didn't need to be a worker there at the burger friers.

Here's the great part about Ray Kroc, He knew the Speedy System and recipes by heart. He was very hands on, as a matter of fact he had to train the franchisees who then trained the employees. There are many moments in Grinding It Out where hes in the stores doing things. In chapter 6 he tires to show someone the McDonald brother blanching process and it kept producing mushy fries. Even the Brothers couldn't help him over the phone. He literally had to figure it out on his own and changed the recipe/process. This was a violation of the McDonald bros contract that stated everything had to be the same and nothing can change unless they say.
I feel this is why Ray Kroc didn't give them residuals. Ray was always on the battlefront. Even when he became CEO he would stop into locations and get to know the people there.
The McDonald brothers had no idea who any of the franchisees were and they didn't know them.
They didn't bring anything to the table.
This is another lesson the story of the McDonald brothers can lend: Never be come the faceless master in an ivory tower.
Ray knew the employee's needs, their wants, their struggles because he took the initiative to experience what they do. On top of that he was making deals across the board.

On a separate note, I think the refusal of Ray Kroc to give royalties to the brothers might be justified.

In his book, by his account, the brothers changed the deal which might have lead to him not honoring the hand shake deal *if it existed*.
In the original deal they both would split $2.7 million, hand over all the rights, and all stores (at the time they still had control of many of the stores before Ray started buying the land before building restaurants.). They changed the deal asking for the original store, Ray complied, then they asked for .5% of gross sales. McDonald's Corp was still borrowing money so to give them anymore than would have pissed off the host of people funding the company. Plus Ray Kroc wasn't too fond of the brothers as it were. They were pushing it.

 

[lewj24]

The main thing I learned was how important it is to own the real estate. Kroc basically owned McDonalds and could do whatever he wanted because he owned all of the land underneath almost every one, leaving the brothers with one option, sell Kroc's business to Kroc.

I had never thought about this situation before this movie and later read Sam Walton got kicked out of his first Ben Franklin store because his lease was up and they didn't want him back. (He went on later to buy stores with 99 year leases)

I still don't understand this. Yes someone else owns the land so they can evict you. Makes sense. But don't you own the building? Everything inside? How can they just 'kick you out'?

What am I not understanding here?

 

[masterneme]

People love to tout "Steve Jobs was a dick!" and from his own mouth he admits he was. He stepped on many toes on purpose to make his dream reality. Does that mean his legacy is less than because of his human flaws?

For me the answer is yes his legacy is less because he was a major douchebag, the same way people dislike Facebook or Monsanto.

This leaves me with 3 lessons:

1st - For some people integrity and ethics matter and those people may be your customers...
2nd - You can be a total dick and succeed in despite of that just because your business is fully submited to productocracy and provides massive value.
3rd - Having haters and detractors is unavoidable, actively f*cking people up is not (because it comes directly from your decissions).

P.S.: I'd say that rich people being evil assholes goes more in tune with the SCRIPTED mentality.

 

[masterneme]

It doesn't take much to turn people against you.
My main point is people are going to be people even when they have money.

Yeah let me tell you something, I'm from Spain and Real Estate has always been a big deal. As a result when the 2008 crisis happened we got a HUGE hit. It got us so hard than we got up to 25% unemployment.

Little by little we're getting out and not thanks to the "working class" but to the most productive people in the country. Who are those guys? The rich business men of course.

Recently I read an article about the 1%, it said they own 20% of the wealth compared to 17% they had 2 years ago. I thought that's a good sign of growth because of course those who are the ones offering products and services are going to own more wealth than the average Joe (or Fulano as we say here ). And that's a huge chunk of money for the country because of taxes.

Then I made the mistake of reading the comments... Everyone was saying that it's a shame, calling them thieves and DEMANDING to take away their money and give it to "the poor guys" and "the oppressed workers".

There was one guy telling them that it's a consequence of working hard and if they wanted to be rich they should do the same. The replies were brutal and came with a rain of dislikes.

In Spain being an entrepeneur is very expensive, you get taxed many times. Your business gets taxed, your income gets taxed and your wealth gets taxed (yearly). You have to pay a monthly fee for being an independent professional (is low but still..), for every employee you pay an extra 50% of his salary to Social Security and 21% for every product you sell.

Still if you succeed in business they're going to hate you. Amancio Ortega, Spanish multibillionaire, donates tens of millions every year, his reward? Being called terrorist and a sea of hatred... :slowclap:

 

[TheRegalMachine]

Also why didn't the 2 brothers mcdonalds get F*cked by electric bills? they were doing just fine with the same exact system(LITERALLY the same system!)

How many milkshakes and ice cream could you sell in Illinois in the winter?
Do you think a restaurant in Alabama needs a furnace?
Did you know basements are nonexistent in Florida?
The electric bill was just one of the issues franchisees faced because as you said they were using the same system but it was so strict that it included building requirements. Requirements that weren't a catch all for other regions. Cookie cutter business models with little flexibility don't always work out well.

he already f*cked up by expanding so damn fast

He met the McDonald brothers in 1954 and by 1963 McDonalds had 110 stores. The numbers for 1964 were (net income of $2.1 million on sales of $129.6 million) for the company. He didn't become owner until 1961. The movie makes it seem like the franchise was built in very little time but it took him almost a decade to make the business profitable and even then was still in debt to multiple companies and investors.

Instead we get modern day McDonalds which serves poison.

I understand your have your convictions.

Actually Ray was super lucky according to the movie. the whole real estate approach came from a random dude who OVERHEARD his argument with the bank teller...

Extreme movie dramatization.
Harry Sonneborn worked for Tastee-Freeze which did business with the McDonald's restaurants.
He was the one who aided Kroc in buying of real estate under the restaurants.
They had a past and Sonneborn left Tastee-Freeze to work for McDonald's.
The Hollywood version makes Harry Sonneborn into some suave financial expert head hunter who stumbles upon Ray, when in reality he was a awkward VP to Tastee-Freeze who already knew about Ray and McDonald's.

there's a book!
https://www.amazon.com/dp/0809282593/?tag=tff-amazonparser-20

Give it a read it's pretty short.

 

[luniac]

In my opinion, the brothers were stuck in a mindset of what THEY wanted, and Kroc was listening to the only thing that matters: the market. If the quality was too low for the market, then it would of been rejected by the market. Instead, his sales exploded.

The market (people) is (are) smarter than people give it credit for. Hard to argue with market demand.

If I think "the market shouldn't want this!" but yet it DOES or "the market should want this!" but yet it DOESN'T... who's wrong? Me or the market?



Look at the huge demand Kroc discovered with McDonald's.

If Kroc had not filled this need, someone else would have.

So his biggest risk was that someone else would have came along and nationally franchised, putting a regional franchise at a significant disadvantage for national expansion later.

Whether Kroc understood consciously how competitive that sector was about to become is debatable, but if he hadn't been first it's unlikely that McDonald's would have been as successful as it was.



This is assuming his motivation was wealth.

There is no way to know what is motivation was from a movie or book.

But I can tell you, money means very little when you have some of it.

Things like legacy take on much more importance.

Maybe he did it just because he could?



In my experience, people very quickly throw the "friend" portion of the relationship out the window if you are in business with them.

In fact, most will use the friend part as leverage against you to get what they want.

It's human nature to not want to be wrong, and you're a bad friend if you think they are wrong and disagree with them.

Tl;DR

I find it hard to judge a man that filled a need in the market so well that it became a multi-billion dollar empire.

yea true that man.
I guess i'm more of the brother type, innovate the speedee system and chill out locally with nice wholesome food.
screw the market with their dumb instamix demands, dumass society... lol

 

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[dgr]

I saw it yesterday, what a great movie. Thanks OP for the recommendation.

Actually Ray was super lucky according to the movie.

Despite the movie dramatization, luck is a minimal but very important factor in every success story. But the more you walk the right way, the more chances you have to find it. As Ray said, "I was an overnight success all right, but 30 years is a long, long night."


I think the key factor with Ray was not his persistence, but his obsession with success. That was what drove him to an insane persistence.


The thing is, the brothers were quite successful in their own terms before meet Ray. I was thrilled by the scene where they tell Ray how they build the Speedee system. And that reminds me of the book What Got You Here Won't Get You There by Marshall Goldsmith. They were able to build a revolutionary system, but they were unable to scale it.


Also Ray visiting the brothers for the first time reminds me of something that Andy Black says a lot: diesel and coffee. Go to meet the people. Get interested in their stuff, build relationships, try to help them.


Another thing I enjoyed in the film was watching how Ray listened instructional and motivational audios. More or less the same all of us are doing here in this forum

 

[TheRegalMachine]

almost read whole book, wow what a great story! this guy ray krok got some crazy hustle and no patience for bullshit. it really stood out to me how he verbally destroyed his own baseball team when they failed to provide a quality performance for the fans. That's the kind of mentality I wanna have for the rest of my life.

Glad you gave it a read. Ray Kroc was more than the burger guy or the a**hole who screwed over the McDonald bros.
Public opinion and the spread of certain information can tarnish a man's credibility and it's a damn shame.

 

[TheRegalMachine]

Basically two different types of people. The 2 brothers were fine running a single restaurant and getting by. Ray wanted a huge empire. Both had different goals.

In my opinion that's the makings of a nightmarish business partnership.
One partner wants to go all in and make shit happen, the other two want to play it safe and aren't interested if the business advances or stagnates.
Ray Kroc was doing the real foot work while the brother sat back home calling the shots and adding jack shit to the partnership while reaping the bulk of the reward.
I have very little sympathy of the McDonald brothers. I feel Ray Kroc was just in his usurping control of the company.

 

[McFirewavesJr]

Ya mean Hollywood casting the entrepreneur/business owner as an evil rich guy? Nawwwww....

I don't remember if it's from Unscripted , but I can't unsee that virtually all business men in movies are evil LOL.

Edit: Nope it's not, but it's from one of your suggestions: "Thou Shall Prosper by Rabbi Daniel Lapin! Thanks for that @MJ DeMarco

 

[Brian C.]

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