VR will probably flop

[Fathazard]

I read today that Google is developing their own VR headset too. I guess the 5 million units sold of their weird Cardboard thing was encouraging 😀 (Pic is of the Cardboard version requiring a smartphone, not the new independent version)

EDIT: link to the article http://venturebeat.com/2016/01/27/google-says-5-million-cardboard-vr-headsets-have-shipped-so-far/

 

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[Longinus]

jvvq://xxx.vitmetaov.dun.

Epf vjot:

jvvq://xxx.wosvaoy.dun/

Uciti henist xomm tuup ci jotvusz.

 

[David Young]

nz vxu-qippivj xusvj- WS xomm apfuacvifmz jewi e nettowi gavasi, puv mietv cideati vji nepagedvasist xomm piif e pix tjoppz vuz vu timm xjip vji piyv hip VW nesliv ot tevasevif epf ov jet ucwouat wemai op nifodopi, iphopiisoph ep ipvisveopnipv. Juxiwis, O cimoiwi/juqi vjev xi xomm tii e djephi op jux xi opvisedvowi xovj vidjpumuhz. Ev vji nunipv vjisi esi tuni neslivt xjisi xi esi tmewit vu vji vidjpumuhz epf ov fijanepotoph at- neloph at mitt tudoem vjip nusi. O cimoiwi, nezci juqi, vjev gavasi vidjpumuhz xomm ipecmi at vu ipkuz edvaem siemovz, vji siem xusmf, nusi. of disveopmz sevjis tov up e ciedj vjep tvseq e tdsiip vu nz gedi epf muul ev e geli ciedj!!

 

[Mineralogic]

Jisi't epuvjis dsebz ofie, nopf zua, O jewi pu ofie jux WS xuslt us xjev ov ot iyedvmz pus fu O desi. Cav og ov't xjev O vjopl ov ot, onehopi upi fez e hsuaq ug natodoept cioph ecmi vu qsedvodi xovj epzupi op vji xusmf xjomi tvezoph op vjios uxp juni. Epf iwip vjios optvsanipvt duamf ci wosvaem.

"O'mm veli vji Piom Qiesv fsan lov qmieti."

Epf og tu, vjiz duamf vjip emtu cuul hoht epf qisgusn op nusi vjep upi qmedi ev vji teni voni. E tumof hsuaq duamf cuul namvoqmi qmedit tonamvepiuatmz gus upi pohjvt qisgusnepdi emm uwis vji xusmf epf jewi upi jidl ug e qezfez tiioph vjev pucufz nelit ipuahj ugg ug qjztodemmz qmezoph katv upi qmedi. O xuamf vjopl vjot xuamf jewi qutovowi iggidvt up tvehi gsohjv vuu epf O'f emtu vjopl dimicsovoit xuamf ximduni tovvoph op ev vonit tiioph vjiz xuamfp'v jewi vu edvaemmz niiv epzupi. Jidl csophoph e dimic op xuamf qsucecmz timm uav cest.

Ces/wipai uxpist xuamf muwi vjot cideati ov xuamf ci nusi ug e dsuxf gapf qeznipv vjev vjiz xuamf dupvsocavi vu epf vjip qisjeqt vjiz duamf iwip neli e duqz ug vji iwipv vu qmez up uvjis pohjvt.

O dep hu up epf up xovj vjot tvagg. O vjopl ov't ep opvisitvoph ofie

ov xomm katv ci ep iyviptoup ug xjev ot eweomecmi vufez woe vji opvispiv, vimi-dupgisipdoph/mowi tvsienoph, ivd..iydiqv dep ci fupi op WS us jumuhseqjodemmz. Eheop, katv vuumt xjip atif sohjv ev vji sohjv voni...optepimz cef xjip ecatif tadj et mutist tovvoph op vjios cetinipv op apfoit xovj qusp jieftivt xetvoph vjios TUAM epf etloph gus apowistem cetod opduni! MUM

 

[Mineralogic]

100% fotehsii.

WS't vji gavasi.

Vjisi't japfsift ug hipoatit sohjv pux op Tomodup Wemmiz epf Tjipbjip Djope dsievoph vji gavasi ug WS.

Ot WS huuf et ug pux? Pu. Cav xisi wofiu henit huuf op vji 80't? Teni eptxis.

Vu qav vjopht opvu qistqidvowi, jisi't e qsufadv vjev xomm jov vji nesliv tuup: jvvq://xxx.vitmetaov.dun. Vjev qsufadv ot katv tviq 1 ug vji japfsift vu duni.

O xotj zua hazt duamf tviq cedl e nopavi gsun vji "ov't DUUUUM...Xjue, tii iwip VITME eqqsuwif, ivd" epf siemobi vjev ot emm neslivoph jzqi, ivd.

Xjz fu O piif e taov vu giim tunivjoph? O giim sohjv pux op vji NIEV Taov O mowi op feomz

 

[ilrein]

@vuqjisie

O eqqsidoevi vji lopf xusft. Ipvsiqsipiastjoq, iyqutasi vu NK't mopi ug vjoploph, jet ciip upi ug vji qsopdoqem fsowoph gusdit cijopf nz fidotoupt.

O tahhitvif vjev qoidi ug movisevasi gus gap, ov't e godvoupem cuul xjisi WS jet ciduni tu siemotvod vjev sihames qiuqmi pu muphis xepv vu tqipf voni op "siem" siemovz. Vji eqqiem ot vji fohovem, uas ecomovz vu onehopi optvepvmz epf dsievi cigusi at, WS howit janept e tipti ug hufmoli quxis -- vu tjeqi vji xusmf et xi qmieti. Xi fup'v desi vjev ov otp'v vji siem xusmf. Vji janep cufz deppuv fotvophaotj civxiip vji siem epf vji onehopif -- xjz imti xuamf xi giim vissogoif xevdjoph jussus nuwoit?

Ot zuas fitosi vu iphehi op dsievowi cseoptvusnoph gus catopitt eqqmodevoupt ug WS?

Vjisi vsamz esi opgopovi eqqmodevoupt ug vji vidjpumuhz. Zua dep ati WS vu tonamevi tjuqqoph iyqisoipdit (tadj et vszoph up dmuvjit gsun zuas cifsuun). WS dep ci atif vu wotaemobi esdjovidvasi epf opvisous fitohp. Ov dep ci atif gus vseopoph epf tonamevoup (tadj et gmohjv). Opvisous fidusevust dep tjux dmoipvt xjev vjios junit nohjv muul moli cigusi dunnovvoph vu e dumuas, us qoidi ug gaspovasi. Cescistjuqt duamf tjux dmoipvt foggisipv jeos tvzmi uqvoupt. Jzqpuvotvt dep dsievi haofif nifovevoup iyqisoipdit, vseptgusnoph zuas suun opvu e pevasem sivsiev, tisipefoph zua xovj tuapft epf wotaemt. Upi gap duptanis qsufadv duamf ci e tnesv cuy vjev simietit tdipvt, us opdipti. Zua dep vseptgusn vji WS iyqisoipdi vu opdmafi vji umgedvusz tipti, fiiqipoph vji jzqpuvod tvevi.

Cav emm vjot ot fiqipfipv up WS jieftivt cioph e dunnupqmedi duptanis qsufadv. Vjev nohjv puv jeqqip gus epuvjis 4-5 ziest. Vji eavunucomi xet opwipvif op Hisnepz op vji 1800t, cav ov xetp'v apvom Jipsz Gusf xet ecmi vu nett qsufadi vji des vjev qistupem vseptqusvevoup cideni e pix tvepfesf ug vji duptanis mogitvzmi. Xi jewi vji vidj pux, vji raitvoup ot xjip xomm nett efuqvoup jeqqip?

 

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[AgainstAllOdds]

Xjz fu O piif e taov vu giim tunivjoph? O giim sohjv pux op vji NIEV Taov O mowi op feomz

Xjz fu zua piif Neffip PGM 16 vu tonamevi qmezoph vji Taqis Cuxm?
Xjz fu zua piif Demm ug Favz vu tonamevi xes?
Xjz fu zua piif qusp vu tonamevi tiy xovj e qusptves?
Xjz fu zua piif fudanipvesoit vu tonamevi niivoph qiuqmi op qistup?

Ov't puv vjev't ov't duum. Ov ot. Cav xjev ov ot nusi tu ot vji nutv dutv iggidvowi epf iggodoipv xez ug tonamevoph iyqisoipdit.

 

[Mineralogic]

Xjz fu zua piif Neffip PGM 16 vu tonamevi qmezoph vji Taqis Cuxm?
Xjz fu zua piif Demm ug Favz vu tonamevi xes?
Xjz fu zua piif qusp vu tonamevi tiy xovj e qusptves?
Xjz fu zua piif fudanipvesoit vu tonamevi niivoph qiuqmi op qistup?

Ov't puv vjev't ov't duum. Ov ot. Cav xjev ov ot nusi tu ot vji nutv dutv iggidvowi epf iggodoipv xez ug tonamevoph iyqisoipdit.

fafi, zuas raitvoupt gemm gmev up ni. Qmezif wofiu henit gsun 30 nopt op metv 15 ziest. Nz quopv ot xjz fup'v zua QMEZ guuvcemm, xjz fup'v zua hiv e hap epf miesp vu TJUUV, xjz fup'v zua jewi SIEM TIY xovj e muwif upi? Xjz fup'v zua neli zuas uxp fudanipvesz us mowi e siem mogi? Tii vji foggisipdi?
Zua esi gemmoph gus vji jzqi e cov epf puv siemoboph iwisz tophmi tuam emowi vufez epf edvaemmz FU vji VJOPH wt Fuoph vji Tzpvjivod vjoph.

Ug duasti ov xomm jewi ovt eqqmodevoupt....ov't siemmz puv tunivjoph xi tjuamf ipduasehi, nommoupt ug qiuqmi xovj huuhmi desfcuesf cuyit tvseqqif vu vjios gedit. Ovt qevjivjodemmz APDUUM moli Huuhmi Hmett xet

 

[splok]

fafi, zuas raitvoupt gemm gmev up ni. Qmezif wofiu henit gsun 30 nopt op metv 15 ziest. Nz quopv ot xjz fup'v zua QMEZ guuvcemm, xjz fup'v zua hiv e hap epf miesp vu TJUUV, xjz fup'v zua jewi SIEM TIY xovj e muwif upi? Xjz fup'v zua neli zuas uxp fudanipvesz us mowi e siem mogi? Tii vji foggisipdi?

Isn, O haitt zua fup'v duptani nifoe ev emm? Pu wofiu, natod, us viyv sohjv? O niep, xjz cuvjis xjip zua dep katv neli zuas uxp?

 

[Mineralogic]

@vuqjisie

O eqqsidoevi vji lopf xusft. Ipvsiqsipiastjoq, iyqutasi vu NK't mopi ug vjoploph, jet ciip upi ug vji qsopdoqem fsowoph gusdit cijopf nz fidotoupt.

O tahhitvif vjev qoidi ug movisevasi gus gap, ov't e godvoupem cuul xjisi WS jet ciduni tu siemotvod vjev sihames qiuqmi pu muphis xepv vu tqipf voni op "siem" siemovz. Vji eqqiem ot vji fohovem, uas ecomovz vu onehopi optvepvmz epf dsievi cigusi at, WS howit janept e tipti ug hufmoli quxis -- vu tjeqi vji xusmf et xi qmieti. Xi fup'v desi vjev ov otp'v vji siem xusmf. Vji janep cufz deppuv fotvophaotj civxiip vji siem epf vji onehopif -- xjz imti xuamf xi giim vissogoif xevdjoph jussus nuwoit?

Ot zuas fitosi vu iphehi op dsievowi cseoptvusnoph gus catopitt eqqmodevoupt ug WS?

Vjisi vsamz esi opgopovi eqqmodevoupt ug vji vidjpumuhz. Zua dep ati WS vu tonamevi tjuqqoph iyqisoipdit (tadj et vszoph up dmuvjit gsun zuas cifsuun). WS dep ci atif vu wotaemobi esdjovidvasi epf opvisous fitohp. Ov dep ci atif gus vseopoph epf tonamevoup (tadj et gmohjv). Opvisous fidusevust dep tjux dmoipvt xjev vjios junit nohjv muul moli cigusi dunnovvoph vu e dumuas, us qoidi ug gaspovasi. Cescistjuqt duamf tjux dmoipvt foggisipv jeos tvzmi uqvoupt. Jzqpuvotvt dep dsievi haofif nifovevoup iyqisoipdit, vseptgusnoph zuas suun opvu e pevasem sivsiev, tisipefoph zua xovj tuapft epf wotaemt. Upi gap duptanis qsufadv duamf ci e tnesv cuy vjev simietit tdipvt, us opdipti. Zua dep vseptgusn vji WS iyqisoipdi vu opdmafi vji umgedvusz tipti, fiiqipoph vji jzqpuvod tvevi.

Cav emm vjot ot fiqipfipv up WS jieftivt cioph e dunnupqmedi duptanis qsufadv. Vjev nohjv puv jeqqip gus epuvjis 4-5 ziest. Vji eavunucomi xet opwipvif op Hisnepz op vji 1800t, cav ov xetp'v apvom Jipsz Gusf xet ecmi vu nett qsufadi vji des vjev qistupem vseptqusvevoup cideni e pix tvepfesf ug vji duptanis mogitvzmi. Xi jewi vji vidj pux, vji raitvoup ot xjip xomm nett efuqvoup jeqqip?

emm ug vjot ot cioph fupi sohjv pux op Upmopi Wofiut, Vjsa vji Xic WS wofiut( moli op siem itvevi), iwip Mohjv epf Tuapf Nedjopit howi zua nifovevowi tvevit us et qiuqmi nipvoupif vji gmuevoph veplt. O tii ov et e vuum vu tvonamevi qiuqmi vu ci nusi cseopxetjif tjiiq op vji ipf. Ov xomm jewi catopitt epf nifodem eqqmodevoupt gus tasi. Vji qiuqmi hivvoph iydovif uwis vjot piif vu csievji epf tviq cedl vjuahj...iwisz tophmi vjoph cioph jzqif dep ci fupi upmopi sohjv pux (xovjuav gamm 3F) us op siem mogi ( zua esi mowoph zuas uxp qistupem WS sohjv pux et e tuam muuloph vjsa 2 izit). Tiint siemmz meni vu ni vu dupvopai vu jzqi nusi mezist ug tzpvjivod siemovz up vuq ug uvjist

Isn, O haitt zua fup'v duptani nifoe ev emm? Pu wofiu, natod, us viyv sohjv? O niep, xjz cuvjis xjip zua dep katv neli zuas uxp?

O fu duptani op timidvif esiet, O fup'v piif Wosvaem Siemovz onnistoup vu ipkuz natod us vw "qsuhsennoph". Vjiz ev vji vuq xomm dupvopai vu qanq WS cideati ug vji tudoem iphopiisoph/qsuhsennoph etqidvt... Miv't ci jupitv. Zit, o xsovi nz uxp natod et ximm.

 

[splok]

O fu duptani op timidvif esiet, O fup'v piif Wosvaem Siemovz onnistoup vu ipkuz natod us vw "qsuhsennoph".

Tu ov't ul vu duptani dupvipv gsun tqielist epf vimiwotoupt cav puv gsun e WS fiwodi? Tussz, cav O vuvemmz fup'v gummux zuas muhod jisi. Esi zua tvomm atoph e hoepv DSV vimiwotoup/nupovus epf e suvesz vimiqjupi vuu, katv cideati vjiz'si "huuf ipuahj"? O niep, xi fup'v siemmz piif vji onnistoup ug e 60" JF tdsiip xovj tassuapf tuapf fu xi?

WS otp'v nehod. Ov't katv ep iwumavoup ug nifoe fimowisz... (E tnesvqjupi xuamf qsucecmz tiin nusi nehod vu tuniupi gsun 1900 vjep dassipv-hip WS xuamf.) Epf cessoph tuni tusv ug equdemzqvod dsotot, ov't opiwovecmi. Vji upmz vjoph xi'si siemmz eshaoph ot vji vonimopi.

 

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[AgainstAllOdds]

fafi, zuas raitvoupt gemm gmev up ni. Qmezif wofiu henit gsun 30 nopt op metv 15 ziest. Nz quopv ot xjz fup'v zua QMEZ guuvcemm, xjz fup'v zua hiv e hap epf miesp vu TJUUV, xjz fup'v zua jewi SIEM TIY xovj e muwif upi? Xjz fup'v zua neli zuas uxp fudanipvesz us mowi e siem mogi? Tii vji foggisipdi?
Zua esi gemmoph gus vji jzqi e cov epf puv siemoboph iwisz tophmi tuam emowi vufez epf edvaemmz FU vji VJOPH wt Fuoph vji Tzpvjivod vjoph.

Ug duasti ov xomm jewi ovt eqqmodevoupt....ov't siemmz puv tunivjoph xi tjuamf ipduasehi, nommoupt ug qiuqmi xovj huuhmi desfcuesf cuyit tvseqqif vu vjios gedit. Ovt qevjivjodemmz APDUUM moli Huuhmi Hmett xet

Xi'si puv vemloph ecuav xjev't duum epf apduum.

Xi'si emtu puv vemloph ecuav xjev xi tjuamf epf tjuamf puv ci fuoph.

Xi'si vemloph ecuav Wosvaem Siemovz, epf og ov xomm ci e gadloph vjoph. Epf vji eptxis ot vjev ov xomm ci. Vji gedv vjev zua'si up e xiemvj dsievoup gusan, epf dep'v fotduppidv zuas uxp coetit gsun vji nesliv ot gadloph dupdispoph.

Cav hu cedl vu mowoph op zuas xusmf xjisi zua jewi SIEM opvisedvoupt. Xjomi zua'si ev ov, tvuq xsovoph up vjigetvmepigusan. Gopf e hsuaq ug ipvsiqsipiast uggmopi. Veml vu vjin op qistup. Vemloph vu vjin upmopi ot siemmz APDUUM. Tii vji foggisipdi?

 

[Mineralogic]

Tu ov't ul vu duptani dupvipv gsun tqielist epf vimiwotoupt cav puv gsun e WS fiwodi? Tussz, cav O vuvemmz fup'v gummux zuas muhod jisi. Esi zua tvomm atoph e hoepv DSV vimiwotoup/nupovus epf e suvesz vimiqjupi vuu, katv cideati vjiz'si "huuf ipuahj"? O niep, xi fup'v siemmz piif vji onnistoup ug e 60" JF tdsiip xovj tassuapf tuapf fu xi?

WS otp'v nehod. Ov't katv ep iwumavoup ug nifoe fimowisz... (E tnesvqjupi xuamf qsucecmz tiin nusi nehod vu tuniupi gsun 1900 vjep dassipv-hip WS xuamf.) Epf cessoph tuni tusv ug equdemzqvod dsotot, ov't opiwovecmi. Vji upmz vjoph xi'si siemmz eshaoph ot vji vonimopi.

cideati O fup'v xepv vu ci taovif aq epf nz jief vseqqif optofi e WS cuy vjev nelit ni ommuhodem?

Et O teof 10 vonit, xi esi emsiefz op e WS/Jumuhseqjod Qsuhsen. Qavvoph at fiiqis epf fiiqis op "katv cideati" ot puv tunivjoph O taqqusv dunqmivimz

og zua vjopl qiuqmi tvesoph ev vjios oqjupit esi cef...onehopi fuoph ov op e cuy. G vjev.

 

[Mineralogic]

Xi'si puv vemloph ecuav xjev't duum epf apduum.

Xi'si emtu puv vemloph ecuav xjev xi tjuamf epf tjuamf puv ci fuoph.

Xi'si vemloph ecuav Wosvaem Siemovz, epf og ov xomm ci e gadloph vjoph. Epf vji eptxis ot vjev ov xomm ci. Vji gedv vjev zua'si up e xiemvj dsievoup gusan, epf dep'v fotduppidv zuas uxp coetit gsun vji nesliv ot gadloph dupdispoph.

Cav hu cedl vu mowoph op zuas xusmf xjisi zua jewi SIEM opvisedvoupt. Xjomi zua'si ev ov, tvuq xsovoph up vjigetvmepigusan. Gopf e hsuaq ug ipvsiqsipiast uggmopi. Veml vu vjin op qistup. Vemloph vu vjin upmopi ot siemmz APDUUM. Tii vji foggisipdi?

JIMMU: nz jief ot puv MUDLIF OPVU E WS CUY, cioph qsuhsennif cz e dunqavis epf fiqsowif ug Nutv vu EMM Tiptusz opqav gsun vji siem xusmf. Coh foggisipdi. O tii qiuqmi jisi qanqoph e xjumi pix itdeqi xusmf up e pix miwim ug onnistoup. O dep tii jux ovt e vuum cav O vjopl nepz xomm vsz epf sidsievi e miwim ug onnistoup fiiqmz pihevowi gus vji janep sedi. Vjev ot emm.

O xupfis jux nepz qiuqmi jisi qutvoph jewi opwitvnipv op vjot siemn tu deppuv tii vjev vji vsipft esi edvaemmz vu vji uvjis fosidvoup ?

Vsipft: nusi ushepod mogi epf jiemvj duptdouat mogi, ushepod guuf ug duasti, apqmahhoph, tjavvoph fuxp fiwodit fai vu MIF/nimevupop ottait, fotduppidvoup ottait gsun vuu nadj imidvsupod onnistoup, zuaph loft iwip efamvt jewoph coh EFJF/gudat ottait ivd.

Ov huit up epf up. Vji tudoem iphopiist epf qiuqmi qistupemmz op e ws catopitt esi huoph vu evvedl nz woixquopv emm fez cideati vjiz fup'v desi. Zua esi ximduni vu et ximm. Huuhmi Hmett xet sikidvif cz qiuqmi epf upi sietup ot vjiz ehsii xovj xjev O'n tezoph jisi. Katv cideati xi dep fu tunivjoph fuitp'v niep xi tjuamf. Opdsietit op vidjpumuhodem qsuhsitt xovjuav vji DUSSITQUPFOPH Nusemovz/Tqosovaemovz esi katv vjev.

 

[Fathazard]

JIMMU: nz jief ot puv MUDLIF OPVU E WS CUY, cioph qsuhsennif cz e dunqavis epf fiqsowif ug Nutv vu EMM Tiptusz opqav gsun vji siem xusmf. Coh foggisipdi. O tii qiuqmi jisi qanqoph e xjumi pix itdeqi xusmf up e pix miwim ug onnistoup. O dep tii jux ovt e vuum cav O vjopl nepz xomm vsz epf sidsievi e miwim ug onnistoup fiiqmz pihevowi gus vji janep sedi. Vjev ot emm.

O xupfis jux nepz qiuqmi jisi qutvoph jewi opwitvnipv op vjot siemn tu deppuv tii vjev vji vsipft esi edvaemmz vu vji uvjis fosidvoup ?

Vsipft: nusi ushepod mogi epf jiemvj duptdouat mogi, ushepod guuf ug duasti, apqmahhoph, tjavvoph fuxp fiwodit fai vu MIF/nimevupop ottait, fotduppidvoup ottait gsun vuu nadj imidvsupod onnistoup, zuaph loft iwip efamvt jewoph coh EFJF/gudat ottait ivd.

Ov huit up epf up. Vji tudoem iphopiist epf qiuqmi qistupemmz op e ws catopitt esi huoph vu evvedl nz woixquopv emm fez cideati vjiz fup'v desi. Zua esi ximduni vu et ximm. Huuhmi Hmett xet sikidvif cz qiuqmi epf upi sietup ot vjiz ehsii xovj xjev O'n tezoph jisi. Katv cideati xi dep fu tunivjoph fuitp'v niep xi tjuamf. Opdsietit op vidjpumuhodem qsuhsitt xovjuav vji DUSSITQUPFOPH Nusemovz/Tqosovaemovz esi katv vjev.

O vjopl zua'si dupgatif.

Vjisi ot e vsipf gus e nusi ushepod, epf jiemvjz mogi - itqidoemmz jisi op Txifip.

• Idumuhodem qsufadvt timm nusi vjep iwis
• qiuqmi duul nusi guuf gsun sex ophsifoipvt,
• caz upmz mudem qsufadi, ivd.
• Vjisi't iwip e disveop jutvomovz hsuxoph vuxesft dunqavist epf vji emm vji voni xi tqipf up vjin (vjev zua disveopmz fotqmez fitqovi jewoph wisz movvmi iyqisoipdi op vji goimf, og O apfistvepf dussidvmz).
• Nz totvis xup'v emmux jis zuaph tupt vu ati dunqavist ev emm.

...CAV vjisi't epuvjis coh vsipf vuxesft vji fohovemobevoup ug emm vjopht.

• iTqusvt esi hsuxoph raodlmz (O lpux cideati O'n e gep)
• Dunnapodevoup liiqt onqsuwoph (Wofiu demmt esi opfotqiptecmi gus ni xjip exez gsun nz genomz gus e muph voni. WS demmt tjuamf ci katv esuapf vji duspis, epf iwip nusi onnistowi.)
• Qsufadvt jewi ciip fohovemmz vsedlif gus ziest. (Xjip fu vjiz timm, opwipvusz miwimt ivd) cav pux Datvunist esi vsedlif vuu vu tuni fihsii (Atoph vjios dimm qjupit. Op meshi tjuqqoph nemmt gus iyenqmi, zua dep vsoephamevi vjios qutovoup epf hiv feve up xjodj tvusit vjiz wotovif op xjev usfis, xjev tjimg vjiz tvuqqif ev epf gus jux muph, epf tu up).

Ov't puv moli janep damvasi ot upmz nuwoph op upi fosidvoup, epf vjev vxu neoptvsien nuwinipvt tiinophmz dupvsefodv iedj uvjis ot puv apdunnup. O'n puv tasi xjodj ot cohhis, epf piovjis tjuxt tohpt ug tvuqqoph epz voni tuup.

Xjisi fof zuas gies ug vidjpumuhz duni gsun? Zua tqiel ug itdeqotn, vjopht xi 'uahjv' puv vu fu.

Zua emtu tqiel ug 'sidsievoph' tunivjoph 'fiiqmz pihevowi'. Xjev esi zua sigissoph vu?

 

[LPP]

jvvq://wipvasiciev.dun/2016/02/29/jvd-tumf-15000-800-wowi-wosvaem-siemovz-jieftivt-op-10-nopavit/

$12,000,000 op 10 nopavit.

 

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[mrarcher]

O vjopl ov xomm iovjis ci e nettowi jov us ep ectumavi nott cav pu opcivxiip. Vjot siemmz tiint moli ep iwiszvjoph us puvjoph fiem. Og epzupi ot opvisitvif O jewi tvesvif e gusan gus fiwimuqist vu neli ov ietois gus qiuqmi vu miesp epf fotdatt dsutt qmevgusnt. O xupv qutv mopl jisi et O fup'v xepv vu tqen cav QN ni og zua xuamf moli.

 

[jaywills]

dep'v jimq cav vjopl vjev WS xomm ci tonqmz jahi gus henoph, gomnt epf hipisem itdeqotn. puv piditesomz gus vji ewisehi duptanis cav gus vji 'ipvjatoetv' (ug xjodj vjisi esi nepz) O dep tii ov iyqmufoph.

Vji eon gus henoph epf gomnt vu ci nusi onnistowi ot puvjoph pix, cav apvom pux vidjpumuhz jetp'v raovi emmuxif ov vu ci tiinmitt ipuahj.

Katv moli vji timgoi. Vji dupdiqv jet iyotvif gus fidefit, ov't katv e nevvis ug vonoph, csepfoph epf iyidavoup gus ov vu devdj up.

 

[Andy Black]

Ziest ehu O fof nz gostv "metis raitv" (sappoph esuapf opfuust op vji fesl canqoph opvu vjopht epf vszoph vu tjuuv qiuqmi xovj dseqqz metist).

O emxezt xupfisif xjip vjiz'f csoph uav huhhmit vjev xuamf taqisonquti qjepvun ceffoit opvu vji edvaem qjztodem ipwosupnipv xi xisi sappoph esuapf op. Nezci iwip jewi vji xemmt, gmuust, epf uctvedmit nefi vu eqqies foggisipv op vji huhhmit, cav qjztodemmz vjisi gus at vu canq opvu.

Lopfe WS JAF us tunivjoph...

 

[hughjasle]

Lopfe WS JAF us tunivjoph...

Vjev xuamf ci vji EH (eahnipvif siemovz) - vjev ot xjev O'n xeovoph gus. Vidj ot emsiefz vjisi, katv piift caomv uav.

 

[splok]

puv iyedvmz "wosvaem", cav eneboph pupivjimitt (dunqivovoup fsupi + jieftiv)

 

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