Vitamins????

[southbayrider]

which vitamins do you guys take? ginkgo biloba? fish oil?
vitamins for alertness, focus, memory, overall health?

 

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[InLikeFlint]

I currently take:
- NutriLite Fruit & Vegetable Supplements
- GNC Vitamin C 1000mg
- Centrum Men's Multivitamin
- NutriLite Simply Men's Pack (I believe it contains Fish Oil, Iron, Vitamin C+)

For a while I was taking Lion's Mane Mushroom to increase memory and focus, it seemed to sorta be working but I was taking many other supplements at that time for my brain so I can't account directly to it's effects.

I also drink Iced Green Tea from my Keurig machine 2-3 times a day and green tea has been said to be one of the most beneficial beverages available...plus I like the taste

 

[Skys]

I keep it basic:
- Multivit for sporters (a bit higher doses of everything)
- Vitamine B1000 complex
- Fish oil
- Vitamine D3

 

[Likwid24]

-D3 (Most Important)
-Fish Oil
-Vitamin C
-ZMA
-Digestive Enzymes
-Activated Charcoal (When I have a cheat meal or Alcohol)
-Probiotics


Multi Vitamins are garbage. Your should be getting most vitamins from the food you eat. Lots of vegetables and quality meat and fish. Eggs are probably your number one source.

 

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[Skys]

Multi Vitamins are garbage.

BS.

 

[Likwid24]

BS.

Oh yea? Explain.......

 

[PopEmersen]

Alive multi
D3 + Vitamin C
Fish Oil
Acidopolus (sp)
Iron

 

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[Likwid24]

Just One out of thousands of articles you'll find on the subject.

Do Vitamins And Supplements Actually Work?

Posted: 05/14/2012 12:17 am EDT
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Vitamins Supplements Work

Vitamins and dietary supplements are big -- more than 110 million Americans forked over a collective $28 billion in 2010 on little bottles of would-be health magic. Research is unclear, however, on whether shoring up your diet with extra vitamins, minerals, and other supplements helps or hurts -- in the short run or in reaching for the century mark.

For more than a decade, for example, researchers followed more than 35,000 men enrolled in SELECT, a clinical trial designed to see whether taking selenium and vitamin E might help prevent prostate cancer. In 2008, study participants received phone calls and letters: Stop the pills. Not only was the answer "no," but vitamin E apparently increased the chance of prostate cancer, if very slightly, and selenium seemed to do the same to diabetes risk. Later the same year, researchers from the Physicians' Health Study-II reported that neither vitamin E nor vitamin C reduced the chances of major cardiovascular problems or cancer as hoped.


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That so many people seem to believe they need to boost their intake of vitamins and supplements is a triumph of marketing. Most Americans are well-nourished (besides being amply fed). Because much of our food is fortified with nutrients, once-common deficiency diseases such as scurvy and rickets, caused by inadequate vitamin C and D, respectively, have nearly disappeared in this and other developed countries. Researchers generally believe that with a few exceptions, like pregnant women or the elderly, most people don't need supplements. Over the 22-year course of the Iowa Women's Health Study, supplemental vitamin B6, folic acid, iron, magnesium, and zinc were associated with a slightly higher risk of premature death, copper to an 18 percent increased risk. Findings were published last year in the Archives of Internal Medicine. The study authors highlighted concerns about the long-term use of supplements and vitamins among those who do not have severe nutritional deficiencies. The pills, they concluded, are best used when recommended by doctors -- not for general prevention.

A 2009 editorial in the Journal of the National Cancer Institute, meanwhile, warned that most vitamin studies show no cancer benefits, and that some found unexpected harm. Two studies of supplemental beta carotene, for example, found higher lung cancer rates, and folic acid research suggested a higher risk of colon polyps among those taking supplements than among those in a placebo group.

Still, some researchers maintain that the diets of many Americans fall somewhat short on certain key nutrients -- not enough to threaten a return of those debilitating deficiency diseases, but perhaps enough to call for a little extra help. What follows is the current thinking -- pro and con -- on popular key supplements that have been well-studied.

Multivitamins. The U.S. Preventive Services Task Force neither recommends nor advises against multivitamins (or other supplements) for preventing cancer or cardiovascular disease. Yet many researchers say a multivitamin has a role as "a very inexpensive insurance policy," says David Schardt, senior nutritionist at the Center for Science in the Public Interest, a nutrition advocacy group in Washington, D.C. There's no need for anything fancy that claims "heart health" or "prostate health" benefits, he says; an inexpensive, basic brand is fine. In 2008, Harvard Men's Health Watch newsletter editor Harvey Simon recommended against multivitamins. His chief worry was that on top of already fortified foods, the folate in a multi could spur cancer. But a study since then showed that cancer was not increased in women at risk for heart problems who were given folic acid supplements. Simon is now less concerned about breast cancer risk, but prostate cancer still worries him.

Calcium and vitamin D. Thumbs up. Extra calcium to protect bone health is safe and routinely prescribed for adults who get too little from food. In one study, men who consumed the most calcium (about 2,000 mg. a day) were 25 percent less likely to die over the next decade than their peers who got the least, according to findings published in 2010 in the American Journal of Epidemiology. The Iowa Women's Health Study also found that calcium supplements were associated with reduced risk of death over nearly two decades.

And consensus is building that Americans need more vitamin D to promote calcium uptake. It is produced by sun-exposed skin and is difficult to get from unfortified foods -- fatty fish is the only major food source. Studies suggest vitamin D also may help fend off cancer and ward off infections. Still, no large-scale randomized controlled clinical trials prove vitamin D supplements offer benefits beyond bone health. Researchers are hungry for more evidence.

In 2010, the Institute of Medicine released new recommendations for daily calcium and vitamin D intake. Between 600 and 4,000 international units of vitamin D are advised, depending on age and gender, and between 700 and 2,500 milligrams of calcium.

Fish oil. New findings are at odds with past evidence for the worth of the omega-3 fatty acids in fish oil, especially for heart-related conditions. An April analysis published in the Archives of Internal Medicine found that fish oil may not do much to ward off heart attacks and strokes in people who already have heart disease. Those taking fatty acid pills had about the same rates of heart disease, death from heart attacks, congestive heart failure, and stroke as those on placebo pills. But the findings don't necessarily mean that fish oil supplements are useless in heart patients. The study participants were all taking statins, powerful cholesterol-lowering medications, which could have trumped any benefits from fish oil.

The American Heart Association continues to recommend fish oil supplements for those at high risk of a heart attack. Simon, no fan of nutrients in pill form, says that, for those with heart risks who don't eat fatty fish like tuna and salmon twice a week, taking 1,000 mg or so is a good idea.

Antioxidants. The glowing promise of antioxidants remains elusive. These substances, among them selenium and vitamins A, C, and E, are believed to help sop up molecules called free radicals. These react with other molecules in the body and promote oxidative damage -- another name for cellular wear and tear. "There's a lot of data supporting the idea that oxidation, over time, has a role in chronic illnesses," says J. Michael Gaziano, a chronic disease epidemiologist with Brigham and Women's Hospital and coauthor of the Physicians' Health Study-II papers.

Many observational studies suggest that people who gobble antioxidant-laden fruits and veggies or supplements have a reduced risk of some forms of heart disease and cancer. Most clinical trials, however, do not support this. Some research, in fact, has shown that supplemental vitamin E may actually increase the risk of lung cancer among smokers, as has been found with beta carotene, as noted above. Vitamin E may do the same. And cancer patients shouldn't add more vitamin C than the amount in a multi; research suggests that too much of the vitamin helps cancer cells withstand treatment.

Researchers are still studying whether supplemental antioxidants might slow the progression of age-related macular degeneration and perhaps prevent noise-related hearing loss. But "no doctor would recommend them for the prevention of cancer, of cardiovascular disease, or of dementia," says Simon.

What about you? Nutritional profiles are not all the same. Recommended intake varies by age, gender, and even race. And genetic differences mean everyone utilizes or responds to vitamins differently, says K. Simon Yeung, a research pharmacist in the Integrative Medicine Service at Memorial Sloan-Kettering Cancer Center. Diet preferences, such as a low-fat or vegetarian regimen, will alter the mix of nutrients taken in. Moreover, lab tests that analyze the nutrients in your system and indicate which ones might need boosting or trimming are, with a few exceptions, not readily available and not often performed. "You can get your cholesterol checked, but not your niacin levels," says Thomson. However, keeping tabs on your dining habits for a few days with SuperTracker, a U.S. Department of Agriculture tool, will give you a sense of whether you're on the right course. (It helps you plan, analyze, and track your diet and physical activity.)

Alice Lichtenstein, a professor of nutrition science and policy at Tufts University's Friedman School of Nutrition, worries that supplements give Americans license to continue their unhealthful ways so long as they pop a pill after the steak and hot fudge sundae. A balanced diet is still the best source of nutrients. Adding supplements -- or fruits and veggies, for that matter -- to a high-calorie diet is not going to work magic. Good health begins with physical activity and a balanced diet that is heavy on fruits, veggies, whole grains, "good" fats, and fish and light on red meat, "bad" fats, and processed food -- and not too high in calories. "Nature," says Lichtenfeld, "is probably better than our manufacturers."

 

[InMotion]

Used to be heavy into bodybuilding and took everything I could think of; vitamins and certain amino acids do seem to help when your involved in extreme exercise, other than that I mainly stick to a light amount of malted barley and hops.

 

[drover]

go check the website bodybuilding.com
you can find some vitamins plans that can fit your needs

 

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[Ikke]

I eat a banana occasionally ropeller: :shruggie:

 

[Eskil]

-ZMA
-Digestive Enzymes
-Activated Charcoal (When I have a cheat meal or Alcohol)

Interesting.. care to share a little bit more about these? (I know I can Google them, but I rather hear it from someone I trust vs. sifting through sometimes questionable and SEO'd articles on all the benefits)

 

[Likwid24]

Sure Eskil

ZMA is Zinc, Magnesium, and B-6. Besides helping you sleep at night, it also helps you to maintain size while working out, and doing cardio. Plus we don't get nearly enough zinc or magnesium in our diets.

Digestive Enzymes help aid in digestion and help you to better absorb vitamins and minerals from the food we eat

Activated Charcoal has many uses, the main one, for me at least, is to absorb harmful toxins when I decide to cheat with grains, or junk food.

 

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[Eskil]

ZMA is Zinc, Magnesium, and B-6. Besides helping you sleep at night, it also helps you to maintain size while working out, and doing cardio. Plus we don't get nearly enough zinc or magnesium in our diets.

Digestive Enzymes help aid in digestion and help you to better absorb vitamins and minerals from the food we eat

Activated Charcoal has many uses, the main one, for me at least, is to absorb harmful toxins when I decide to cheat with grains, or junk food.

Very good, thanks.
If you've settled on particular brands for these that you feel work best - feel free to share them here too.

 

[Likwid24]

NOW Nutrition is a real good brand. Most products by them are really good.

My ZMA is by True Athlete
D3 - Pure Pharma
Probiotics - Klaire Labs Ther-biotic complete

Now- For everything else

 

[CommonCents]

I take a liquid multi thinking they are more bio available.

 

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[socaldude]

I take vitamins because of a specific skin condition because its not practical for me to eat 20 carrots every single day to get vitamin A.

I have really dry flaky skin so the vitamins I take are very specific.

1. 50 MG of Zinc for immune health and skin.
2. 100,000 International Units of Beta Carotene(Vitamin A).
3. New Chapter Multi Vitamin, Mineral and Herb.
4. 2,000MG of Vitamin C with rose hips for skin collagen
5. B-complex for metabolism.
6. 25MG of DHEA(ask doctor first)
7. Grape Seed Extract for antioxidant.
8. Jojoba oil after a shower, one of the only oils very similar to natural skin oil.
9. Cold pressed Flax Seed with orange juice.

The Result? Incredible. MY skin is clear and moist. My skin is better than its ever been.

 

[Likwid24]

What about a juicer?

 

[Beau]

Alpha Lipoic Acid
ZMA
Krill Oil/Cod Liver Oil (seal oil is illegal in the states or I'd be using that)
Phyto Powder
Apple Cider Vinegar(with mother)
Kombucha (probiotics)

I use some others too, but these are my current dailies.

 

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[Jonleehacker]

I eat high quality certified organic food.

 

[Rawr]

zinc actually keeps me awake.


lysine

vitamin c

zinc

all winter, last 2 in the summer too.

 

[santa]

Supplements certainly have their place in my opinion, and some have already mentioned ones I take and "feel" a noticeable difference with... but if you can also work on lifestyle factors you can really get bang for the buck.

... for alertness, focus, memory, overall health?

So don't forget a good sleep routine can help all of the above a ridiculous amount too. (By "good" I mean finding something that works for you)

 

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[liquidglass]

There's a lot of good input in the thread so find what works for you. I am very rarely sick to the point of not working. In fact I haven't taken a single sick day since I started my fastlane journey. But wanted them all the time in the slow lane, funny how that works isn't it?

I keep mine pretty basic like others on here:

- Fish oil 1500mg
- Vit D 500mg
- Vit C 1000mg
- Stress tabs (my personal favorite) Amazon.com: StressTabs Energy 60tab,(Pack of 2): Health & Personal Care

 

[anddreww]

I currently take:
3. New Chapter Multi Vitamin, Mineral and Herb.
4. 2,000MG of Vitamin C with rose hips for skin collagen
5. B-complex for metabolism.
I am feeling well and more healthful.

 

[jjipkr]

Info graphic on pill effectiveness

 

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[jjipkr]

Also, I take about 3000MG of fish oil a day, along with Vitamin D 1000IU, and drink a lot of green tea. I also add cinnamon to coffee.

A supplement which has had immense benefit to me is the natural sleeping pill Slumber Aid by Naturade. I sleep well, but most importantly I wake up feeling full of energy. The GABA, Melatonin and long sleep increase HGH and testosterone. This is great for feeling good. I'd recommend it to all men

 

[awkwardgenius]

Much of the FUD surrounding nutritional supplements is suspect because of big pharma's involvement in much of the disparaging "research". If proper nutrition and lifestyle can cure most of what ails us, that doesn't leave a lot of market for statins and diabetes medication and other patent-able drugs that are created to counteract shitty lifestyle choices.

You can't patent vitamin C or Ginseng, so naturally big pharma with their billions are going to run PR to discredit their effectiveness, and if necessary/possible, lobby to have them regulated out of the market, as they've done with many of the public domain nootropics (cognitive enhancement compounds) already.

 

[Sheldon]

Used to be heavy into bodybuilding and took everything I could think of; vitamins and certain amino acids do seem to help when your involved in extreme exercise, other than that I mainly stick to a light amount of malted barley and hops.

Hey buddy, for supplements, I think the only pills you should take are fish oil and a probiotic. There are also some times when it may be beneficial to take other supplements over a short period of time, such as yohimbe, arginine-alphaketoglutarate, creatine or other a pre-workout supplement.
For the fish oil, make sure that you buy one that maximizes the omega-3 content (i.e. DHA and EPA). A lot of them may be 1000mg or 1200mg, but may have variable quantities of the omega-3's. So, compare the one's you're going to buy and buy the one with the highest percentage.
For the probiotics, you want to take a multi-strain Lactobacillus and Bifidobaterium as well as a Saccharomyces boulardii. I take Nature's Bounty Advanced Probiotic 10 because it have 10 strains of the lacto/bifido and a 10 billion count per capsule, plus I can buy it at Costco. I also take Jarrow's formula for the Sacchro because it was recommended in the book Clean Gut by Alejandro Junger.

For all the other nutrients, your best best is juicing fruits and vegetables. Nothing will deliver the quantity and quality of vitamins in fresh fruit and vegetable juice. The bioavailability of the nutrients in this stuff blows all other supplements out of the water.

 

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