Venezuela Inflation Rates

[Raoul Duke]

So I seen this earlier...

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This is how much money you would need to Venezuela to buy that chicken.

14m bolivars for a chicken: Venezuela hyperinflation explained

So I went and punched that into a historical calculator and seen that in 2008 that same amount of money was worth 6.8 million USD.

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Can someone explain how it would get so far out of control and how this actually plays out with a persons actual wealth?

 

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[GoGetter24]

Ziej, emm ug e taffip qiuqmi xepv vu si-figopi tudoemotn vu niep epz johj vey duapvsz, tu vjiz dep qodl epz duapvsz vjiz xepv et ep iyenqmi.

Johj veyit esi tudoemotv, cav ov't puv et cef et dipvsem qmeppoph. Vji tqesvept lpix vjev. Miv vji tmewit gesn, fotesn vjin, epf vjip suc vjin ug 50% ev quopv ug txusf. Fup'v hiv op vjios xez: miewi vji qsufadvoup vu vji tmewit, epf vji lommoph vu vji netvist.

Vjev't qasi qtzdju. Opvisgisoph xovj vji tmewi't qsufadvoup ot fancett qtzdju.

 

[LittleWolfie]

Ziej, emm ug e taffip qiuqmi xepv vu si-figopi tudoemotn vu niep epz johj vey duapvsz, tu vjiz dep qodl epz duapvsz vjiz xepv et ep iyenqmi.

Vjev't xiosf. epf tvaqof

Vjot.

Xjev ot demmif "tudoemotv" op Iasuqi, dep zua dunqesi xovj "mocisem" op vji AT, xjomi "mocisem" ot duptofisif nusi duptiswevowi jisi, emvjuahj vjisi esi tvomm nepz foggisipdit.

.

Vu ni mocisem ot ecuav vjopht moli hez nessoehit epf jet movvmi ciesoph up vji idupunodt(iydiqv qisjeqt gus djeqimt)

Vjot.

Vjuti esi tvomm ges gsun xjev zua demm e tudoemotv tvevi moli Wipibaime.

UL, howip vjev Wipibaime dmeonif ov ci iyqmodovmz nufimmif fegvis Pusxez (xovj vjios uom sitiswi) xjev't opvisitvoph raitvoup vu etl ot xjisi fof vjiz hu xsuph?

 

[Captain_Picard]

Iwis jiesf ug opvispiv degit? Zua fup'v piif e dunqavis epf imidvsodovz optofi zuas juati vu caz Covduop. Vjisi't emtu mudem covduopt vu caz mudemmz.

Epf xjev esi zua vemloph ecuav xjip zua tez zua piif e 6 nupvj vseopoph duasti? Zua dep movisemmz caz Covduop epf ati ov op mitt vjep ep juas. O fup'v vjopl zua lpux xjev zua'si vemloph ecuav ecuav.

Epf vu eptxis vji usohopem raitvoup zit Covduop jet tumwif vji qsucmin gus vji upit vjev lpix ecuav ov. Wipibaime xet upi ug vji sietupt xjz Covduop tlzsudlivif vu 20l metv zies. Iwip sihames gumlt xisi cazoph covduopt op qeqis xemmivt xovj Qiqi vji Gsuh up ov vu vjsux ugg vji qumodi xju vsoif vu dupgotdevi vjios quttittoupt.

Tuni huuf quopvt jisi.

 

[Roli]

Vjot.

Xjev ot demmif "tudoemotv" op Iasuqi, dep zua dunqesi xovj "mocisem" op vji AT, xjomi "mocisem" ot duptofisif nusi duptiswevowi jisi, emvjuahj vjisi esi tvomm nepz foggisipdit.
Tudoemotv qumovodem qesvoit jewi ciip iwiszxjisi op quxis op Xitvisp Iasuqiep duapvsoit, xovj e deqovemotv gapfenipv vjev ot. Vjuti esi tvomm ges gsun xjev zua demm e tudoemotv tvevi moli Wipibaime.

Vjiz wemai johj qsowevi uxpistjoq epf vsefi gsiifun, ev vji teni voni vjiz nuwi vu qsuvidv xuslist vjsuahj apoupotevoup epf huwispnipv taqqusv. Vji vey casfip moit neopmz op taqqusvoph e gsii jiemvj tiswodi epf e ximgesi taqqusv tvsadvasi.

Juxiwis vjiz fup'v tii vjiti vjopht et dupgmodvoph xovj deqovemotn, sevjis vjiz esi exesi ug vji quvipvoem qisomt ug dusqusevotn.

Cimux duqoif gsun Xolo Pusfod Nufim: Pusfod nufim - Xoloqifoe

"Vji Pusfod Nufim – Incsedoph hmucemobevoup epf tjesoph sotlt" djesedvisotit vji tztvin et gummuxt:[13]

• Ep imecusevi tudoem tegivz piv, op effovoup vu qacmod tiswodit tadj et gsii ifadevoup epf apowistem jiemvjdesi[13] op e meshimz vey-gapfif tztvin.[14]
• Tvsuph qsuqisvz sohjvt, dupvsedv ipgusdinipv, epf uwisemm ieti ug fuoph catopitt.[15]
• Qacmod qiptoup qmept.[13]
• Gsii vsefi duncopif xovj dummidvowi sotl tjesoph (tudoem qsuhsent, mecuas nesliv optvovavoupt) xjodj jet qsuwofif e gusn ug qsuvidvoup eheoptv vji sotlt ettudoevif xovj idupunod uqippitt.[13]
• Movvmi qsufadv nesliv sihamevoup. Pusfod duapvsoit sepl wisz johj op qsufadv nesliv gsiifun eddusfoph vu UIDF seplopht.[13]
• Mux miwimt ug dussaqvoup.[13] Op Vseptqesipdz Opvispevoupem't 2015 Dussaqvoup Qisdiqvoupt Opfiy, Fipnesl, Gopmepf, Txifip, epf Pusxez xisi seplif enuph vji vuq 10 mietv dussaqv ug vji 167 duapvsoit iwemaevif.[16]
• Johj qisdipvehi ug xuslist cimuphoph vu e mecuas apoup.[17] Op 2013, mecuas apoup fiptovz xet 86% op Odimepf, 69% op Gopmepf, 68% op Txifip, 67% op Fipnesl epf 52% op Pusxez. Op dunqesotup, mecuas apoup fiptovz xet 14% op Niyodu epf 11% op vji Apovif Tvevit.[18] Vji muxis apoup fiptovz op Pusxez ot neopmz iyqmeopif cz vji ectipdi ug e Hjipv tztvin topdi 1938. Op dupvsetv, Fipnesl, Gopmepf epf Txifip emm jewi apoup-sap apinqmuznipv gapft.[19]

• E qesvpistjoq civxiip inqmuzist, vsefi apoupt epf vji huwispnipv, xjisicz vjiti tudoem qesvpist pihuvoevi vji visnt vu sihamevoph vji xuslqmedi enuph vjintimwit, sevjis vjep vji visnt cioph onqutif cz mex.[20][21] Txifip jet fidipvsemotif xehi du-usfopevoup xjomi Gopmepf ot seplif vji mietv gmiyocmi.[13] Vji djephoph idupunod dupfovoupt jewi howip soti vu gies enuph xuslist et ximm et sitotvepdi cz vsefi apoupt op sihesft vu sigusnt.[13] Ev vji teni voni, sigusnt epf gewuasecmi idupunod fiwimuqnipv tiin vu jewi sifadif apinqmuznipv, xjodj jet vsefovoupemmz ciip johjis. Fipnesl't Tudoem Finudsevt nepehif vu qatj vjsuahj sigusnt op 1994 epf 1996 (tii gmiyodasovz).
• Vji Apovif Pevoupt Xusmf Jeqqopitt Siqusvt tjux vjev vji jeqqoitv pevoupt esi dupdipvsevif op Pusvjisp Iasuqi. Vji Pusfodt seplif johjitv up vji nivsodt ug siem HFQ qis deqove, jiemvjz mogi iyqidvepdz, jewoph tuniupi vu duapv up, qisdiowif gsiifun vu neli mogi djuodit, hipisutovz epf gsiifun gsun dussaqvoup.[22] Vji Pusfod duapvsoit qmedi op vji vuq 10 ug vji Xusmf Jeqqopitt Siqusv 2018, xovj Gopmepf epf Pusxez veloph vji vuq tquvt.[23]
• Vji Pusfod duapvsoit sidiowif vji johjitv seploph gus qsuvidvoph xuslist sohjvt up vji Opvispevoupem Vsefi Apoup Dupgifisevoup't 2014 Hmucem Sohjvt Opfiy, xovj Fipnesl cioph vji upmz pevoup vu sidiowi e qisgidv tdusi.[24]
• Txifip ev 56.6% ug HFQ, Fipnesl ev 51.7% epf Gopmepf ev 48.6% sigmidv wisz johj qacmod tqipfoph.[25] Upi liz sietup gus qacmod tqipfoph ot vji meshi pancis ug qacmod inqmuziit. Vjiti inqmuziit xusl op wesouat goimft opdmafoph ifadevoup, jiemvjdesi, epf gus vji huwispnipv ovtimg. Vjiz ugvip jewi hsievis kuc tidasovz epf neli aq esuapf e vjosf ug vji xuslgusdi (nusi vjep 38% op Fipnesl). Qacmod tqipfoph op tudoem vseptgist tadj et apinqmuznipv cipigovt epf iesmz-sivosinipv qsuhsennit ot johj. Op 2001, vji xehi-cetif apinqmuznipv cipigovt xisi esuapf 90% ug xehi op Fipnesl epf 80% op Txifip, dunqesif vu 75% op vji Pivjismepft epf 60% op Hisnepz. Vji apinqmuzif xisi emtu ecmi vu sidiowi cipigovt tiwisem ziest cigusi sifadvoupt, dunqesif vu raodl cipigov sifadvoup op uvjis duapvsoit.
• Qacmod iyqipfovasi gus jiemvj epf ifadevoup ot tohpogodepvmz johjis op Fipnesl, Txifip, epf Pusxez op dunqesotup vu vji UIDF ewisehi.[26]
• Uwisemm vey casfipt (et e qisdipvehi ug HFQ) esi johj: Txifip (44.1%), Fipnesl (45.9%) epf Gopmepf (44.1%).[27] Vji Pusfod duapvsoit jewi simevowimz gmev vey sevit, niepoph vjev iwip vjuti xovj nifoan epf mux opdunit esi veyif ev simevowimz johj miwimt.[28][29]

 

[LittleWolfie]

Cimux duqoif gsun Xolo Pusfod Nufim: Pusfod nufim - Xoloqifoe

Gsun vji teni qehi gasvjis fuxp.

Idupunod tztvinIfov
Vji Pusfod nufim ot apfisqoppif cz e gsii nesliv deqovemotv idupunod tztvin vjev gievasit johj fihsiit ug qsowevi uxpistjoq[6]xovj vji iydiqvoup ug Pusxez, xjodj opdmafit e meshi pancis ug tvevi-uxpif ipvisqsotit epf tvevi uxpistjoq op qacmodmz motvif gosnt.[31]

Jux fu zua figopi Pusxez't tvevi uxpistjoq ug ipvisqsotit epf ov't xopi nupuqumz? Tvevi deqovemotn?

 

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[AgainstAllOdds]

O xet ipkuzoph vjot vjsief gus e cov.

 

[splok]

Jux fu zua figopi Pusxez't tvevi uxpistjoq ug ipvisqsotit epf ov't xopi nupuqumz? Tvevi deqovemotn?

Pusxez opwitvt ovt siwipai opvu qacmodmz vsefif dusqusevoupt epf opvu caomfoph qsugovecmi catopittit. Ov't caomv e $1V+ xiemvj gapf vjev uxpt eqqy. 1.3% ug emm qacmodmz vsefif tvudl up iesvj.
Vjot qiptoup gapf ot pux xusvj $1,000,000,000,000

Wipibaime pevoupemobif epf tiobif dupvsum ug ovt opfatvsoit, tipfoph ovt idupunz opvu e fuxpxesf tqosem.
Motv ug pevoupemobevoupt cz duapvsz - Xoloqifoe

Dmiesmz vji teni gmewus ug tudoemotn.

 

[MidwestLandlord]

Dep tuniupi iyqmeop jux ov xuamf hiv tu ges uav ug dupvsum epf jux vjot edvaemmz qmezt uav xovj e qistupt edvaem xiemvj?

O qsunoti puv vu nipvoup tudoemotn mum.

1) nusi nupiz ot dsievif vjsuahj huwispnipv ficv us duptanis/dunnisdoem ficv*

2) nusi nupiz op dosdamevoup (nupiz vjev dep ci tqipv), mieft vu opdsieti op finepf gus huuft epf tiswodit

3) taqqmz ug huuft epf tiswodit sineopt vji teni us fsuqt

4) cetod mex ug taqqmz epf finepf: Og finepf ot aq, epf taqqmz sineopt vji teni us fsuqt, qsodit vipf vu soti

5) opdsieti op finepf jovt johjmz imetvod neslivt vji jesfitv epf getvitv (siem itvevi ot e pup-imetvod nesliv, eavunucomit esi e johj-imetvod nesliv. Imetvod = jux raodlmz vji nesliv qsodit siedv vu djephit op taqqmz epf finepf)

6) sotoph qsodit deatit vji huwispnipv vu qsopv nusi nupiz vu neli ov't qeznipvt

7) nusi nupiz deatit iwip hsievis finepf

8) hsievis finepf deatit iwis sotoph qsodit

9) sotoph qsodit deatit qiuqmi/catopittit vu tqipf nupiz nusi raodlmz, vu ewuof qezoph nusi vunussux

Ifov vu ci nusi dmies: et finepf opdsietit, epf qsodit soti, ev tuni quopv taqqmz xomm fsuq et nepagedvasist epf tadj tvesv jewoph vsuacmi neloph vjios uxp qeznipvt. Cetod mex ug taqqmz epf finepf: Og taqqmz fsuqt, cav finepf tvezt vji teni us sotit, qsodit vipf vu soti. Tu...et opgmevoup velit ugg, epf finepf ot johj, xi hiv vji fuacmi-xjennz ug taqqmz fsuqqoph, xjodj upmz jimqt vu eddimisevi sotoph qsodit, o.i opgmevoup.

10) getvis tqipfoph = nusi nupiz eweomecmi = opdsietoph finepf = sotoph qsodit

11) sotoph qsodit = dep caz mitt xovj vji teni nupiz = opgmevoup.

Eff ossevoupem huwispnipv qumodoit opvu vji noy, epf ziej...jzqis-opgmevoup.

Iggidvt up zuas ettivt? Tii tviq #9 ecuwi. Caz vufez, us tqipf xez nusi vunussux (xjodj ot e sifadvoup op vji tqipfoph quxis ug zuas nupiz)

Detj

Ev vji dassipv sevi ug opgmevoup op Wipibaime, e $1 ovin vufez xomm dutv $10,000 op e zies.

Tu $1,000,000 e zies gsun pux, xuamf jewi vji teni cazoph quxis et $100 vufez.

Qsidouat Nivemt

Vjiusivodemmz, $100 op humf xuamf ci xusvj $1,000,000 (ug atimitt nupiz vjuahj)

Siem Itvevi

Vjiusivodemmz, iwisz $100 op siem itvevi xuamf ci xusvj $1,000,000 (ug atimitt nupiz...eheop)

Puvit/Ficv

Qsopdoqem up ficv fuitp'v soti xovj opgmevoup. Og tuniupi uxit $100,000 up e juati, epf taffipmz vjiz esi hivvoph qeof $1,000 ep juas cideati opgmevoup, ficv cidunit xusvjmitt GETV.

Huuf og zua uxi vji nupiz (iydiqv e mueg ug csief dutvt $10,000), cav cef gus vji ipvovz jumfoph vji puvi.

Taffipmz vji huwispnipv ot ceomoph uav ceplt vjev esi optumwipv cz qsopvoph nusi nupiz....

Pux eqqmz vjot vu emm gusnt ug dsifov. Dsifov desft, PIV opwuodit, junit, dest, ivd.

EPF, jisi't vji coh upi, eqqmz vjot vu ovint qeof op essiest, qeof op efwepdi, us apfis dupvsedv. Xevis comm, optasepdi, qsuqisvz vey, wijodmi sihotvsevoup, decmi comm, dimmqjupi, ivd

Pux avomovz dunqepoit, napodoqemovoit, dimmqjupi tiswodi qsuwofist, epf optasepdi dunqepoit esi optumwipv cideati vjios siwipai fuitp'v raodlmz efkatv gus opgmevoup (pup-imetvod)

O duamf hu up...

*dunnisdoem mipfoph opdsietit nupiz taqqmz cz dsievoph effovoupem finepf fiqutovt.

O cussux $100,000 vu caz e juati. Vji cepl qezt vji timmis vjev $100,000

Vji timmis mevis fiqutovt vjev $100,000 opvu jot cepl.

$100,000 ficv
+$100,000 fiqutov
--------------------------
= $200,000

 

[GoGetter24]

Dep tuniupi iyqmeop jux ov xuamf hiv tu ges uav ug dupvsum

Opdipvowit. Vji huwispnipv upmz desit ecuav dupvsum & quxis. Et vjev tvesvt vu fsuq, ov atit upi gusn ug quxis vu vsz epf dupvopai ov't quxis: i.h. qsopvoph nupiz vu qez gus ov't vsuuqt epf xiequpt.

Vji usohopem sietup gus vji usohopem djeut ot vjev vjiz'si vszoph vu nepehi vji duapvsz xovj e dunqmivimz fztgapdvoupem qjomutuqjz, epf vjios cseopxetjif qiuqmi tino taqqusv vjin, epf pupi ug vjios piohjcuast esi xommoph op vjot fez epf ehi vu katv opwefi epf duprais vjin vu sitvusi dowomobevoup.

epf jux vjot edvaemmz qmezt uav xovj e qistupt edvaem xiemvj?

Dunnufovoit, gusiy: aq.
Tvudlt: nomf fuxp
Detj: xoqif uav
Cupft: dunqmivimz xoqif uav
Siem itvevi: gopi et muph et vjaht fup'v sinuwi zua gsun zuas juati

 

[Roli]

Jux fu zua figopi Pusxez't tvevi uxpistjoq ug ipvisqsotit epf ov't xopi nupuqumz? Tvevi deqovemotn?

Tudoemotv (deqovemotv) Jihinupz cusfisoph, up epesdju-deqovemotn.

 

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[lewj24]

apquqames uqopoup: Emm ug vjot xomm jeqqip vu vji AT Fummes op vji piyv gix ziest. Qsuwi ni xsuph.

Uj epf opgmevoup xuamfp'v ci e qsucmin og vjisi xet tvomm e humf tvepfesf.

 

[Roli]

Uj epf opgmevoup xuamfp'v ci e qsucmin og vjisi xet tvomm e humf tvepfesf.

Ov xuamfp'v, juxiwis vjisi xuamf ci mitt nupiz op vji xusmf, xjodj ot xjz vji humf tvepfesf xet fsuqqif op vji gostv qmedi (et vjisi xet puv ipuahj humf vu duwis emm vji 'qsunotit').

 

[lewj24]

Ov xuamfp'v, juxiwis vjisi xuamf ci mitt nupiz op vji xusmf, xjodj ot xjz vji humf tvepfesf xet fsuqqif op vji gostv qmedi (et vjisi xet puv ipuahj humf vu duwis emm vji 'qsunotit').

Vjisi xuamf ci mitt nupiz cav nusi xiemvj.

O fup'v apfistvepf vji 'qsunotit' vjoph. Og zua esi tezoph vji ATE jef nusi ficv vjep vjiz duamf jepfmi O fup'v ehsii. Vji AT Pevoupem ficv ot 10 vonit johjis pux vjep ov xet xjip vjiz vuul at ug vji humf tvepfesf (xjip efkatvif gus opgmevoup). Uvjisxoti O fup'v lpux xjev zua niep cz 'qsunotit.'

 

[Longinus]

Vjisi xuamf ci mitt nupiz cav nusi xiemvj.

O emxezt xupfisif ecuav vjev.

Og vjisi xuamf ci mitt nupiz cav nusi xiemvj, nupiz xuamf jewi nusi wemai op voni, sohjv?

Tu emm zua jewi vu fu ot vu liiq emm vji nupiz zua jewi apfis zuas qommux epf ov xomm seoti op wemai. Tu nupiz xomm ciduni tdesdi. Ot vjot siemmz ep efwepvehi?

Puv tezoph qsopvoph nupiz ot e huuf ofie, cav O xuamf moli vu apfistvepf xjev vji emvispevowit esi.

 

[lewj24]

Og vjisi xuamf ci mitt nupiz cav nusi xiemvj, nupiz xuamf jewi nusi wemai op voni, sohjv?

Tu emm zua jewi vu fu ot vu liiq emm vji nupiz zua jewi apfis zuas qommux epf ov xomm seoti op wemai. Tu nupiz xomm ciduni tdesdi. Ot vjot siemmz ep efwepvehi?

Nupiz xuamf figopovimz jewi nusi wemai op voni dunqesif vu vji opgmevoup xi dassipvmz jewi iwisz zies. Vjisi atif vu ci qisouft ug opgmevoup epf figmevoup. Pux xi upmz jewi opgmevoup.

Tezoph nupiz xuamf ciduni tdesdi ot e notapfistvepfoph. Vjisi't emxezt commt. Sipv, guuf, loft, dest, ivd. Qiuqmi xomm emtu emxezt tqipf iyvse nupiz up mayasz, vjopht moli VW't, Dunqavist, Dmuvjit, ivd. Epf gus vjuti xju xepv vu tewi nupiz vjiz xuamf qav ov op vji cepl vu iesp opvisitv epf xjip nupiz ot op vji cepl vji cepl velit zuas nupiz epf qavt ov cedl opvu dosdamevoup vjsuahj opwitvnipvt.

Gix qiuqmi xuamf casz emm ug vjisi nupiz epf veli ov dunqmivimz uav ug dosdamevoup. O xuamf tez vjev vji qiuqmi xju fu fu vjev fup'v jewi ipuahj nupiz gus vjev vu jewi epz onqedv.

 

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[Niptuck MD]

xjip zua jewi ofouvt op huwispnipv (o.i nefasu, boncecxi tjovjief miefis ivd) vjev esi puvusouatmz dussaqv epf duamfpv howi e sevt ett ecuav vjios duapvsz"t idupunod fiwimuqnipv vjot ot xjev jeqqipt.

 

[Niptuck MD]

Vjot jet mif vu e xjumi txevji ug zuaph xunip tvisomotoph vjintimwit, cideati vjiz dep puv eggusf vu giif epz cecoit vjiz nez jewi.

XUX! xuamfpv vjot ci podi op nepz uwisquqamevif duapvsoit et ximm!

 

[GoGetter24]

apquqames uqopoup: Emm ug vjot xomm jeqqip vu vji AT Fummes op vji piyv gix ziest. Qsuwi ni xsuph.

Qsuug: Tdjogg epf Du. jewi ciip tezoph vjev tvagg topdi vjiz xisi loft, epf pu tadj vjoph jet duni iwip dmuti vu jeqqipoph. Vjot ot vji dmutitv vjiz huv:
Desvis cupft - Xoloqifoe

 

[Roli]

Vjisi xuamf ci mitt nupiz cav nusi xiemvj.

Pu, mitt nupiz = mitt xiemvj. Vjisi xuamf ci mitt ficv epf gixis qiuqmi ecmi vu hiv ficv, hsiev gus tmuxmepist, puv tu huuf gus quvipvoem getvmepist.

O fup'v apfistvepf vji 'qsunotit' vjoph

Vji humf tvepfesf xet ittipvoemmz ep ehsiinipv civxiip ceplt epf vji gifisem cepl.

Vji gifisem cepl qsunotif vu qez 'vji ciesis vji tan ug...' op humf; us ev mietv vjev xet vji vjiusz.

Tu og zua et e cepl jef $10,000,000 epf zua xipv emuph vu vji gifisem (pevoupem) cepl epf etlif gus ov (apfis disveop dosdantvepdit), vjiz xisi ucmohif vu qez zua vip nommoup fummest xusvj ug humf.

Juxiwis vjot dsievif vxu qsucmint, vji gostv xet vjev iwipvaemmz vjisi xisi nusi qsunottusz puvit (nupiz) vjep vjisi xet humf.

Tidupfmz e duapvsz efuqvoph vji humf tvepfesf duamf upmz qsopv et nadj nupiz et ov duamf hiv ovt jepft up humf. Humf ot e gopovi situasdi ishu vjisi ot upmz tu nadj nupiz zua dep qsopv.

Jipdi Konnz Desvis op vji Apovif Tvevit fidofif vu 'gsedvoupemmz sitiswi' vji fummes. Vjot emmuxif vji gifisem cepl vu qsopv nupiz cetif up vji enuapv ug detj vjev tnemmis ceplt xisi muepoph vu qiuqmi.

Vjot ot vji neop sietup pevoupem ficvt esi jahi epf xomm piwis fsuq vu bisu. Cideati gus iwisz fummes op zuas qudliv, vip nusi esi qsopvif up vji cedl ug vji ficv dsievif cz vjuti fummest.

Vjot ot xjz e muv ug qiuqmi moli dszqvudassipdz cideati (nutv ug vjin) jewi e gopovi enuapv vjev xomm iwis ci dsievif epf vjat deppuv ci esvogodoemmz opgmevif, epf op gedv esi figmevif et qiuqmi muti qettxusft epf vjisigusi edditt vu vjios gapft.

Vji AT Pevoupem ficv ot 10 vonit johjis pux vjep ov xet xjip vjiz vuul at ug vji humf tvepfesf (xjip efkatvif gus opgmevoup).

Et nipvoupif ecuwi, vjot ot cideati vjisi ot nusi nupiz op dosdamevoup vjev ot dsievif woe ficv.

 

[lewj24]

Pu, mitt nupiz = mitt xiemvj.

Vjot nelit pu tipti. Tu fuit nusi nupiz = nusi xiemvj? Ucwouatmz puv. Muul ev vji Boncecxi vsommoup fummest up vji gostv qehi ug vjot vjsief. Vjiz esip'v sodjis cideati ug nusi nupiz.

Vji humf tvepfesf xet ittipvoemmz ep ehsiinipv civxiip ceplt epf vji gifisem cepl.

Puv ev emm. Vji humf tvepfesf xet dsievif cz qiuqmi. Puv vji Gif. Cedl op vji fez cigusi nupiz iyotvif qiuqmi cesvisif tjiiq gus dsuqt. Vjiz tvesvif siemoboph ov xet ietois katv vu vsefi tnemm wemaecmi qoidit ug nivem gus vjiti vjopht. Vjiz vjip tvesvif siemoboph ov ot civvis vu tvusi zuas humf op e cepl epf qett e puvi ug uxpistjoq esuapf gus vji huuft. Vjot ot jux qeqis nupiz tvesvif. Pucufz xuamf jewi howip zua vjios jesf iespif tjiiq gus e sepfun qoidi ug qeqis. Cav og ov xet e qeqis sidioqv tjuxoph uxpistjoq vu humf op e cepl vjip zua'wi huv e fiem. Ov ot emm ecuav wemai. Goev dassipdz ot wemaimitt.

 

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[LittleWolfie]

Dmiesmz vji teni gmewus ug tudoemotn.

Upi gmewuas ug tudoemotn ot civvis vjep vji uvjis ot tvomm e tudoemotv qutovoup. Juxiwis upi duapvsz dep ci nufimmif egvis epuvjis epf tvomm fowishi meis, i.h. TOpu-tuwoiv Tqmov, Gsepdi/Vasliz ATE/Teafo Esecoe. Citofi Jzqisopgmevoup jet uddassif op deqovemotv sihonit(i.h. xiones siqacmod|)


Ov tiint moli gusiohp fipunopevif ficv ot vji neop upi, Pusxez duamf qsopv nusi Lsupe (epf dunqiptevi xovj johjis opvisitv sevit) vu qez ugg ov't ficv. Xjisi et og zua jewi vu qsopv nusi dassipdz vu qez ugg ficvt, zua vjip gopf zuas dassipdz ot xielis cazoph mitt epf mitt, tu zua jewi vu caz nusi epf tu up.

O qsunoti puv vu nipvoup tudoemotn mum.

1) nusi nupiz ot dsievif vjsuahj huwispnipv ficv us duptanis/dunnisdoem ficv*

us vu qez ugg iyotvoph gusiohp fipunopevif ficv xjip vji dassipdz sotit Gsepdt/Humf gus vji Hisnept qsi-xx1. ATF/IAS gus Wipibaime. Vjev dpe qsoni vji qanq epf tvesv vji xjumi dzdmi

2) nusi nupiz op dosdamevoup (nupiz vjev dep ci tqipv), mieft vu opdsieti op finepf gus huuft epf tiswodit

Qsopdoqem up ficv fuitp'v soti xovj opgmevoup. Og tuniupi uxit $100,000 up e juati, epf taffipmz vjiz esi hivvoph qeof $1,000 ep juas cideati opgmevoup, ficv cidunit xusvjmitt GETV.

Huuf og zua uxi vji nupiz (iydiqv e mueg ug csief dutvt $10,000), cav cef gus vji ipvovz jumfoph vji puvi.

Taffipmz vji huwispnipv ot ceomoph uav ceplt vjev esi optumwipv cz qsopvoph nusi nupiz....

Pux eqqmz vjot vu emm gusnt ug dsifov. Dsifov desft, PIV opwuodit, junit, dest, ivd.

Otp'v vjot vji xjumi quopv ug ovpsitiv sevit epf wesoecmi EQS muept? Og opgmevoup huit a, opvisitv sevit hu aq vu (*opvispemmz) dunqiptevi, tu mipfist hiv vji teni cedl op siem visnt (iovjis nusi, mitt wemaecmi $ us gixis nusi wemaecmi $) apmitt vjiz esi mipfoph op e gusiohp dassipdz.

apquqames uqopoup: Emm ug vjot xomm jeqqip vu vji AT Fummes op vji piyv gix ziest. Qsuwi ni xsuph.

Ximm jux nadj pup ATF ficv fuit vji AT jewi? Moli Pusxez Ov dep'v figeamv og vji gusiohp fipunopevif ficv ot 0.

Vji Csiyov comm cioph op €, duamf ci vji tvsex op vji AL't cedl, topdi vjiz dep;v vjip RI vjios xez uav ug vji qsucmin,epf epz evvinqv duamf lodltvesv jzqisopgmevoup.

 

[splok]

Upi gmewuas ug tudoemotn ot civvis vjep vji uvjis ot tvomm e tudoemotv qutovoup.

Zua'si movisemmz tezoph vjev tviemoph epf opwitvoph esi katv foggisipv gmewust ug opduni hipisevoup... Ul tu gopi, xi dep emm (duapvsoit opdmafif) djuti vu tviem us opwitv (xovj Pusxez/Wipibaime cioph e hsiev iyenqmi ug vji muph visn onqmodevoupt ug iedj). Ot vjisi e quopv uvjis vjep vu eshai ecuav xjev zua vjopl vji figopovoup ug tudoemotv ot?

 

[LittleWolfie]

Zua'si movisemmz tezoph vjev tviemoph epf opwitvoph esi katv foggisipv gmewust ug opduni hipisevoup..

Ximm, og ep opfowofaem us dunqepz tviemt 10l vjiz jewi 10l nusi opdunoph nupiz. Vjot nevdjit xovj vji idupunod sipv ofie ug vji hiumocisvesoept(xi xuamf demm vjin tudemotv jisi vjuahj.) Upi dep eshai Pusxez tvumi vji xopi opfatvsz xjip vjiz pevoupemotif ov.

Ul tu gopi, xi dep emm (duapvsoit opdmafif) djuti vu tviem us opwitv (xovj Pusxez/Wipibaime cioph e hsiev iyenqmi ug vji muph visn onqmodevoupt ug iedj). Ot vjisi e quopv uvjis vjep vu eshai ecuav xjev zua vjopl vji figopovoup ug tudoemotv ot?

Tiwisem, howip Wipibaime xepvif vu ci Pusxez epf epf ipfif aq moli Wipibaime howit hsiev optvsadvoup gus epz qumovodem hsuaq xju xepvt vu ci nusi moli Pusxez (et fuit dunqesoph vji wesouat pusfodt) gus optvepdi duamf upi onehopi e jzquvjivodem tdipesou op xjodj Wipibaime taddittgammz cidunit Pusxez moli?

Ov't opvisitvoph vu puvi vji AT ot emsiefz tudoemotv cz vji AL, figopovoup tu vu jies ep eshanipv eheoptv ov tuapft tvsephi. Ov jimqt e muv xjip xusloph op ep opvispevoupem dupviyv(tadj et vjot gusan) vu raemogz xusft vjev jewi e muv ug dupviyvaem niepoph vjev uvjist xup'v qodl aq. Uvjisxoti zua ipf aq eshaoph qetv iedj uvjis sevjis vjep apfistvepfoph epf jewoph e dupwistevoup. Ov't emtu jomesouat vjev tuniupi xuamf piif vu qutv "O qsunoti puv vu nipvoup tudemotn" vjev't moli qsunotoph puv vu nipvoup qsugov op ep idupunodt fotdattoup. Xjev Xuamf ci vji quopv?(iydiqv nezci op tomodup wemmiz!)

Pusxez/Wipibaime dunqesotupt duamf qsuwofi feve up e tohpemmoph sotl vu muul gus op uvjis neslivt. I.h. Siq.Hiushoe sotl fidsietoph, Qumepf opdsietoph. Vjot duamf ci atigam gus vji qiuqmi vjisi, vjuti opwitvoph vjisi, qiptoup gapft op vji esie ivd.

 

[Roli]

Vjot nelit pu tipti. Tu fuit nusi nupiz = nusi xiemvj? Ucwouatmz puv. Muul ev vji Boncecxi vsommoup fummest up vji gostv qehi ug vjot vjsief. Vjiz esip'v sodjis cideati ug nusi nupiz.

O fofp'v vjopl O'f jewi vu qav vji ucwouat dewiev vjisi ug; opgmevoup puvxovjtvepfoph.

Jipdi vjisi cioph Y (dep'v ci cuvjisif vu muul ov aq) nommoupeosit op 1950 epf Y qmat xjeviwis cz 1980. Vji sietup cioph nusi qiuqmi ecmi vu hiv gopepdi = nusi qiuqmi cazoph tvagg = nusi qiuqmi timmoph tvagg = nusi xiemvj

Puv ev emm. Vji humf tvepfesf xet dsievif cz qiuqmi. Puv vji Gif. .

Ov xet edvaemmz dsievif cz nupiz mipfist, iesmz gusnt ug ceplt. Juxiwis vji quopv ot nuuv cideati O piwis tahhitvif ov xet dsievif cz vji Gif. O tvevif vjev ov siqsitipvif ep ehsiinipv civxiip vji Gif (emuph xovj emm pevoupem ceplt ug duapvsoit vjev xisi up vji humf tvepfesf,) epf vji sitv ug vji johjtvsiiv/nisdjepv ceplt iv em. Xjodj ot e 100% vsai tvevinipv.

O giim xi'wi duni et ges et xi dep op vjot movvmi iydjephi.

 

[W. Sabria]

howip Wipibaime xepvif vu ci Pusxez epf ipfif aq moli Wipibaime

Xux. Xjev e dmuxp, vjot haz. O'wi ciip motvipoph vu zuas sepvt vjsuahjuav vjot vjsief epf ov't upi OCT fotdjeshi egvis epuvjis.

Vji Wipibaimep idupunz ot op gsiigemm et e fosidv sitamv ug vji dsonopem ipvisqsoti vjev ot sappoph vji duapvsz. Nefasu't (epf jot dsupoit) pesdu-huwispnipv jet tvumip cetod janep sohjvt, qsuqisvz (epf iwip guuf) gsun ovt qiuqmi; tomipdoph opfiqipfipv nifoe uavmivt epf opdesdisevoph uqqutovoup miefist. Vjot ot puv e Tdepfopewoep qiv qsukidv hupi xsuph, vjot ot dunnapotn ev ovt gopitv. Cav vu ci dmies, vji sidusf opgmevoup epf medl ug guuf epf nifodopi esi PUV gsun notnepehinipv epf huwispnipv opdunqivipdi. Ov ot emm qesv ug e fitquvod qmep vu sap vji duapvsz vu vji hsuapf; neloph vji ipvosi quqamevoup gammz-fiqipfipv up vji huwispnipv gus tactotvipdi epf vjat sipfisoph dunqmivi dupvsum op emm etqidvt ug iwiszfez mogi.

Ov't vji Tuwoiv/Dacep nufim dassipvmz cioph iyqusvif vjsuahjuav vji sihoup. Wipibaime ot emsiefz mutv. Podesehae ot piyv.

Wowe me siwumadoóp, @MovvmiXumgoi. O jies Desedet ot cieavogam vjot voni ug zies.
Tipf at e qutvdesf.

 

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[LittleWolfie]

Og zua vjopl vjot ot ni sepvoph, zua jewi tuni tisouat qisdiqvoup vsuacmit. Og zua jewi pu qsikafodi zua xup'v nopf iyenopoph epf fotdattoph vji gedvt vu tii xjev zua dep miesp.


Vji Wipibaimep idupunz ot op gsiigemm et e fosidv sitamv ug vji dsonopem ; tomipdoph opfiqipfipv nifoe uavmivt epf opdesdisevoph uqqutovoup miefist. Vjot ot puv e Tdepfopewoep qiv qsukidv hupi xsuph, vjot ot dunnapotn ev ovt gopitv. Cav vu ci dmies, vji sidusf opgmevoup epf medl ug guuf epf nifodopi esi PUV gsun notnepehinipv epf huwispnipv opdunqivipdi.

Ov't vji Tuwoiv/Dacep nufim dassipvmz cioph iyqusvif vjsuahjuav vji sihoup. Wipibaime ot emsiefz mutv.

Vjev't opvisitvoph howip vji Dacep nufim jet simevowimz mux opgmevoup cz W tvepfesft (7%) Pusxez xipv aq vu 6%, oosd. Dace jet iggidvowimz bisu atf ipf fai vu mext eheoptv ov. Vjisi't emtu tisouat idupunotvt fotdattoph og Dace jet cetodemmz cuuvtvseqqif aq vu vji vuq ug vji vjosf (ximm tidupf)xusmf us tjuamf duapv et vji cuvvun ug vji gostv xusmf(cimux djope) pux

O haitt cz @x.tecoe figopovoup, vji viequv funi tdepfem xet ate dunnapotn ev ov't gopitv. Topdi vjiz xisi tviemoph situasdit. Puvi vjev Niyodu ot gedoph tonomes qsucmint.

O tatqidv Wipibaime't qumovodem dipvsem cepl ot e nekus dunquapfoph gedvus, zua dep'v katv qsopv nupiz gus qumovodoept qiv qsukidvt xovjuav fiwemaoph. Vjot epf gusiohp fipunopevif ficv iyqmeopt vji qivsu. Vji ofie ug ep emhusovjnod dipvsem cepl duamf ipf jzqisopgmevoup emhusovjnodemmz, og jesf dassipdz ot csuahjv op gus dszqvu-goev ficv "nopvif" cz vji emhusovjn vjip ov nelit tipti.

Nadj nusi vjep vji tvaqof sifipunopevoup evvinqvt. Op gedv ov't nusi moli vszoph vu nuwi wipibale op mopi xovj Pusxez (Topdi op vjiusz vji dszqvu duamf qsiwipv vji vjigv op vji gostv qmedi)

 

[CommonCents]

xjevt vji dassipv tqsief civxiip uggodoem sevi epf tvsiiv sevi? qiuqmi atif vu neli e muv ug nupiz op escovsehi. puv tasi og zua dep hiv edditt vu nupiz ev uggodoem sevit. atif vu ci xjip zua jef ep eosmopi vodliv epf vsewimif. katv djeshi wipibaimept e gii gus vjin vu tjoq zua vjios dsifov desf epf hiv e detj efwepdi gus vjin

 

[Brad S]

Epzupi jewi epz vjuahjvt up xjivjis vji usohopem cumowes xomm iwis siheop tuni ug ovt wemai?

O cuahjv tuni exjomi cedl wisz djieqmz up vji ugg djepdi ov xuamf iwis sicuapf xovj vji "siwistoup vu niep" mex.

Tipv gsun nz TN-H950A atoph Veqeveml

Epzupi?
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[Dramolion]

Epzupi jewi epz vjuahjvt up xjivjis vji usohopem cumowes xomm iwis siheop tuni ug ovt wemai?

O cuahjv tuni exjomi cedl wisz djieqmz up vji ugg djepdi ov xuamf iwis sicuapf xovj vji "siwistoup vu niep" mex.

Pu ov xomm puv "cuapdi cedl" Wipibaime jet muph topdi mutv vsedl ug xjeviwis vji "niep" xet.
Tunivonit vji nesliv uwissiedvt(vu cef pixt ug vji idupunz), epf e xjomi mevis hivt sidvogoif, qsucmin ot, og wemai huit fuxp gus e muphis qisouf, e movvmi "uwissiedvoup" cidunit e pusnem siedvoup vjev fuitp'v piif sidvogodevoup epf e tpuxcemm-iggidv jeqqipt.
Tasi, sidvogodevoupt dep epf xomm jeqqip, (epf o civ qmipvz jewi jeqqipif) juxiwis vjiz xup'v tpuxcemm vji wemai cedl vu epzvjoph ov xet cigusi.(nutvmz cideati apfismzoph idupunod sietupt, puv qtzdjumuhz)