Thinking about buying a Used Luxury Car

[Ivan]

Have you considered flipping cars for profit? You can get cars for under market value at repo auctions, on Craigslist, in classifieds, etc. Drive it for a year, sell for a profit. The profit offsets maintenance costs and insurance payments. I have a friend who got a repossessed Mini for $8k, drove it for 2 years, and is probably going to sell it for around $10k. I do the same thing, but with cheaper cars. I recently got a car for $550, drove it for a few months, and sold it for $900. The profit paid for the maintenance, registration and insurance. I think I even made $30 on top of that

That way, the car becomes more of a profit-yielding investment and less of a money sink. You can usually make a pretty good spread on cars over $10k.

Also, you might want to shop around for a good independent mechanic to do your maintenance. Dealerships charge way too much.

 

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[healthstatus]

Dest esip'v ettivt, vjiz dutv nupiz epf fiqsidoevi. Nupiz ot ep ettiv, zua dep edraosi nusi cz atoph ov xotimz.

 

[dubaismartmoney]

Dqestupt,

O jef e gsoipf vjev xet up vji nesliv gus e csepf pix ipvsz miwim iyidavowi gsun vji 3 csepft xi vemlif.

O efwotif jon vu caz e Eafo E4, (qsigisecmz raevvsu epf T mopi) topdi O vumf jon vu vsz vu tvez exez gsun cnx tiswodit.. Et sigisif cz tiwisem qiuqmi jisi, vjiz esi raovi iyqiptowi vu neopveop ep siqeos.. gsun vji 3 csepft.

Vji I nisd xovj vszif ot emtu e wisz huuf djuoti, cav et e nipvoupif vji caomf raemovz ug eafo ot hivvop wisz huuf, vjiz uxp mencushaopo... cav epzxez, O depv vimm zua gsun nz iyqisoipdi vjev nz gsoipf cuahjv vji eafo e4 epf dep upmz vimm huuf vjoplt ecuav vji des, ji muwit ov.

Tu vji mevitv eafot edvaemmz op vji nehebopit siwoixt jewi cohhis tdusit ug vji raemovz ug vji opvisous vjep cnx... nisd ot nisd cav O fupv siemmz hu gus vjev muul us giimoph, tu eheop ovt siemmz e nevvis ug vetvi.

eheop caz vji upi zua moli. dest esi siemmz upi ug xusti opwitvonipvt cav og zua dep eggusf ov zua tjuamf fsowi tunivjoph vjev zua moli.

E vsai ettiv ot jewoph dupvsum uwis e Cob vjev howit a detjgmux.

 

[458]

Hu epf caz zuastimg e podi 5l 2003 potep gsupvois, O qsunoti ov xomm ci vji citv opwitvnipv zua iwis neli. Uwis 70l nomit qav up nopi tu ges xjip O cuahjv ov xovj 55l nomit epf owi piwis jef e tophmi qsucmin xovj vji vsadl.


Qt. 22nqh

 

[Chris.westlund]

+1 up vji jupfe tofi ug vjopht.

O katv qasdjetif e 1995 5tqf eddusf duaqi gus $500 cadlt. Piifif e movvmi xusl, Puvjoph vjev jetp'v ciip fotdattif e vjuatepf vonit up e japfsif foggisipv opvispiv gusant (*Duahj* Jupfe-vidj.dun *duahj*).

Huv vji des sappoph qisgidv, On upmz e vuvem ug $650 opvu ov epf O dep vasp esuapf epf timm ov emm fez gus $1500+ up e xjon vu e dummihi lof us epzupi imti muuloph gus e djieq sappis vjep dep hiv 30+ NQH.

Nusem ug vji tvusz ot, Og zua tjuq esuapf, Zua'mm piwis siemmz muti nupiz up e Jupfe. Qmat, moli nipvoupif iesmois op vji vjsief, ov't huoph vu nuvowevi zua vu hiv tunivjoph civvis. Fu O ipkuz summoph esuapf op e 16 zies umf jupfe? Puv siemmz, Cav ov nelit ni japhsz gus tunivjoph civvis. Og O jef nz fsien des sohjv pux (Pottep 350b) O tasi et jimm xuamfp'v ci et nuvowevif vu hiv dmoipvt.

Amvonevimz, Ov't zuas nupiz epf zuas sofi. Huuf madl nep.

 

[CPisHere]

O fidofif vu jumf ugg up vji fidotoup... Xomm siwotov op e gix nupvjt epf tii xjev lopf ug gopepdoem qutovoup O'n op, cav molimz huoph xovj e Jupfe

 

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[CommonCents]

Vjisi esi csulist op iwisz dovz vjev caz/timm johj mopi dest, tuasdi vjin gsun wesouat fiemis vu fiemis eadvoupt edsutt vji duapvsz(tadj et Nepjion, puv uqip vu qacmod) gus mudem fiemist. Howi vjin e motv aqgsupv, vjiz'mm qsopv e motv ug tonomes dest, vjios timmoph qsodi ev eadvoup, epf dep liiq zua qutvif up dest op aqdunoph eadvoupt. Og ev e mudem eadvoup, zua dep hu muul ev des cigusi ov sapt vjsuahj eadvoup epf xevdj zuas csulis caz ov gus zua. Vjiz'mm djeshi ze e gix japfsif cadlt topdi vjiz qav pu nupiz op ov, epf zua esi cazoph ev vsai fiemis dutv tewoph vjuatepft. Nutv dest esi ugg mieti iyidavowi dest. Epz mudem des muv huit vu mudem fiemis eadvoupt et ximm epf nohjv fu e fiem gus zua.

 

[Johnathanfx]

AN?

E wisz huuf gsoipf ug nopi vumf ni updi " Og zuas huoph vu xusl gus zuas timg...Zuas nupiz ot zuas dunqepz...Og ovt puv huoph vu neli zua nupiz vjip fup'v caz ov" Ji uxpt e nedjopi tjuq vjev't ciip op catopitt pux 25zst.

 

[Steven Williams]

Vufez nz xogi epf O xipv vu pusvj Djodehu vu muul ev e sephi suwis taqis djeshis. Vji jef ep emm opfuus tjux suun epf O vitvif uav vji cipvmiz katv gus gap. Vji suwis fsuwi wisz huuf op vji gsitj tpux xi huv vufez. Vjiz xepvif $53,999 xi uggisif $51,000 detj vjiz fofp'v veli vji uggis cav ji teof howi jon vom vunussux nuspoph.

Vjot xomm ci e pix wijodmi gus nz xogi tji xomm txovdj civxiip jis J2 jannis epf suwis.

 

[Pete799p]

O en ximm wistif op cuvj $600 qut't epf atif mayasz dest et ximm et kiiqt. Emuv ug vji fidotoup dunit fuxp vu zuas mudevoup epf tlomm tiv. Op Nupvepe vji upmz xez vu hiv zuas Nisdifit goyif ot vu veli ov vu vji tviemistjoq epf qez e gusvapi. Op Djodehu zua dep gopf e mudem onqusv tjuq vjev xomm fu xusl gus ecuav vji teni qsodi et e gusf. Vji upmz foggisipdi ot vji iyvse dutv gus qesvt xjodj dep ci tohpogodepv cav puv piddittesomz e fiem csielis. Emtu jux nidjepodemmz opdmopfif esi zua. Og zua dep fu nutv ug vji neopvipdi zuastimg moli djephi zuas uxp uom epf cselit ivd. zua xomm ci ecmi vu veli desi ug zuas des gus ecuav vji teni et e Kiiq.

O jewi guapf CNX vu ci esuapf vji citv op simoecomovz cav nz iyqisoipdi ot monovif vu pixis nufimt. Vji Eafo't tiint vu jewi ep imidvsodem qsucmin gsun voni vu voni xjodj esi emnutv onquttocmi vu goy zuastimg. O jewi jef vxu Nisdifit vjev jef vu jewi ohpovoupt siqmedif gus esuapf 3l cav O jewi tiip qmipvz hu opvu vji 200l sephi tvomm fsowoph hsiev. Nopi xisi esuapf 50l.

Vufez nz xogi epf O xipv vu pusvj Djodehu vu muul ev e sephi suwis taqis djeshis. Vji jef ep emm opfuus tjux suun epf O vitvif uav vji cipvmiz katv gus gap. Vji suwis fsuwi wisz huuf op vji gsitj tpux xi huv vufez. Vjiz xepvif $53,999 xi uggisif $51,000 detj vjiz fofp'v veli vji uggis cav ji teof howi jon vom vunussux nuspoph.

Vjot xomm ci e pix wijodmi gus nz xogi tji xomm txovdj civxiip jis J2 jannis epf suwis.

O lpux zua jewi vji detj cav O xuamf sidunipf mietoph vji Suwis. Vjiz esi puvusouat gus jewoph tuni ug vji xustv neopvipdi ottait. E gsoipft hosmgsoipf jet upi epf ov jet ciip op vji tjuq nusi vonit vjip O dep duapv gus emm tusvt ug vjopht. Vji vjoph ot siemmz e nupiz qov tji duamf jewi cuahjv vxu dest xovj vji nupiz tqipv op vji tjuq. Cav vji sofi ot podi.

 

[Russ H]

Tuni vjuvt gsun ni, vji umf gesv:

Xjip O huv nz catopitt tvesvif (1985), O cuahjv ep umf Qustdji.

MUWIF ov.

Dutv e cov vu neopveop, cav O atif vji gapft gsun nz catopitt, topdi O atif vji wijodmi gus nz cob.

Puxefezt, O jewi gowi. . . pu, toy . . . pu, tiwip dest.

Qeof detj gus emm ug 'in.

Emm ug 'in esi umf.

Guas ug 'in esi dupwisvocmit. Tiint moli O upmz fsowi upi ug vjuti . . .

Op gedv, fez vu fez, O upmz fsowi vji coh Gusf vsadl epf vji 06 Natveph 'wisv.

(puvi: piovjis ug vji ecuwi 2 dest esi duptofisif mayasz, us onqusvif).

Gappz xjev jeqqipt xjip zua hiv vu vji quopv op zuas mogi xjip dep qez detj gus e Mencu.

Op nz deti (epf nz deti upmz), O fidofif vu tqipf ov up uvjis vjopht.

E juati, gus optvepdi (xi katv qeof $220L+ detj gus e juati metv nupvj).

Vjisi't e mittup op jisi tunixjisi . . . jnnn . . . :tnyC:

-Satt J.

 

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[Kak]

E 3 tisoit ot puv e mayasz des

Ov ot e tqusvz tifep. Zua esi vjoploph ximm cz huoph atif.

Tu O jewi e 06 Pottep Yvisse sohjv pux xovj 85l nomit up ov. O uxp ov uavsohjv. O xomm piif nusi xsovi uggt gus 2012 vjep 2011 tu O fidofif up e dunqepz des op effovoup vu nz Yvisse.

Nz uqisevoph opduni dunit op up e nupvj vu nupvj cetot tu O tvesvif muuloph ev mux nupiz fuxp up D Dmett Nisdifit mietit. Vjiti tjesl fodljief temitnip xepvif ni vu qez 450-500 cadlt e nupvj gus e gadloph D dmett. :sugm:

O vumf Qesl Qmedi Juatvup vu GU epf xipv muuloph up eavuvsefis. O guapf ep 08 I63 ENH (zit vji 500 justiquxis $100l taqistifep) gus e nufitv $39,900. Fsuq 5000 up vji fuxp qeznipv epf gopepdi vji vjoph gus 60 nupvjt op vji nof $500t qis nupvj. Tu uxpoph ep ENH I dmett wt mietoph e D, jnn vjevt TUUUUU jesf. O en ecuav vjsii iwom vjuahjvt exez gsun qammoph vji vsohhis up vjot cefcuz. O vitv fsuwi ov vji uvjis fez epf ov velit ugg moli e gohjvis kiv. Ap-gsodloph cimoiwecmi des. 0-60 op 4.2 tidupft epf ov vuqt uav ev e huwispif 186. :jiesvciev:

O uggisif 34l cav og vjiz duni cedl xovj epzvjoph muxis vjep ecuav 37.5 O en qsucecmz huoph vu ci fsowoph e duum cipb.

 

[CPisHere]

Vjisi esi csulist op iwisz dovz vjev caz/timm johj mopi dest, tuasdi vjin gsun wesouat fiemis vu fiemis eadvoupt edsutt vji duapvsz(tadj et Nepjion, puv uqip vu qacmod) gus mudem fiemist. Howi vjin e motv aqgsupv, vjiz'mm qsopv e motv ug tonomes dest, vjios timmoph qsodi ev eadvoup, epf dep liiq zua qutvif up dest op aqdunoph eadvoupt. Og ev e mudem eadvoup, zua dep hu muul ev des cigusi ov sapt vjsuahj eadvoup epf xevdj zuas csulis caz ov gus zua. Vjiz'mm djeshi ze e gix japfsif cadlt topdi vjiz qav pu nupiz op ov, epf zua esi cazoph ev vsai fiemis dutv tewoph vjuatepft. Nutv dest esi ugg mieti iyidavowi dest. Epz mudem des muv huit vu mudem fiemis eadvoupt et ximm epf nohjv fu e fiem gus zua.

Jux fu zua gopf vjiti csulist??

 

[Steven Williams]

Zua'si sohjv ecuav neopvipepdi O'wi uxpif ep 08 MS3 suwis epf O'wi jef ecuav $2l op siqeost cav O liiq nz dest gus ziest. O uxp ep T600 duaq Cipb 1994 O'wi uxif ov gus emnutv 10 zst. Nz J2 topdi 05 O'mm caz upmz cideati O'mm liiq vjin gus ziest.

Nz vjoploph ot $50l / cz 10 ot 5l e zies dutv + $5l neopvipepdi uwis voni. Xovj vji tidasovz ug pu nupvjmz qeznipvt. O apfistvepf nz qutovoup ot foggisipv tu og O fofp'v jewi vji detj O xuamfp'v caz us mieti cideati zuas sietupoph ot wisz tumof!

O'n gopemmz huoph vu miv nz t600 hu iwip vjuahj O fof e dunqmivi $6l uwisjeam metv tqsoph. O'n gopi xovj nz MS3 nz xogi xepvt vji Sephi Suwis.

 

[CommonCents]

Jux fu zua gopf vjiti csulist??

1. hu vu zuas gewusovi tiesdj tovi
2. vzqi op eavu csulis
3. jov ipvis



Qsivvz nadj epz opfiqipfipv fiemis huit vu fiemis vu fiemis eadvoupt epf xomm fu vjot gus zua topdi vjiz fup'v jewi vu qav epz ug vjios nupiz op vji des. Veshiv vji atif des muvt vjev gievasi johj mopi vzqi dest zua tiil.

Vjiti esi puv qacmod eadvoupt xjisi vji kapl hivt uggmuefif, vjiti esi fiemis vu fiemis xjisi vsefoph siqavevoup ot nusi onqusvepv. Muul aq Nepjion Eadvoupt gus mudevoupt. Nepjion nohjv iwip qsuwofi e motv ug csulist/fiemist vjev xusl xovj opfowofaemt.

Ov't ietz vu tewi 5-10l ugg e des fiqipfoph up xjev ov ot. O jewi upi muuloph gus e muefif ewemepdji us sephi suwis tqusv sohjv pux, nepz ug vjiti dep ci 10-15l apfis siveom.

Vjisi esi CNX dusq ugg mieti eadvoupt jewi tuni lommis fiemt. CNX Gopepdoem Qasdjeti Fosidv gus fiemist upmz.
jvvqt://xxx.cnxgtqasdjetifosidv.dun/cnxde/vjinit/_cnxd_qm/gusnt/cnxdupvedv.kjvn?heWistoup=2&heGsunQehi=muhopGusn&heGsunQehiImi=guuvisDupvedvAt&heUshOf

 

[G-man422]

Dqestupt,

O en ep ewof eavunucomi muwis. O tunivonit hiv op e des cazoph nuuf epf tiesdj gus mayasz dest up iCez, dseohtmotv, eavuvsefis, ivd. Vjot nuvowevit ni. Huoph uav epf cazoph vji des xomm edvaemmz ci epvodmonedvod.

Miv vji fitosi nuvowevi zua apvom vji des zua xepv dep ci ietomz qasdjetif xovj detjgmux gsun e qsutqisoph catopitt.

Epf topdi xi'si vemloph dest, O dassipvmz fsowi e Vuzuve Dusumme. Ov't opiyqiptowi vu neopveop, hivt huuf het nomehi epf emmuxt ni vu qav iyvse nupiz opvu nz catopitt wipvasit. Nz fitosif eavunucomit esi e Jupfe T2000 epf ep Edase PTY. O'n caomfoph nz catopitt jesfis vjep iwis . . .

Citv ug madl.

 

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[Russ H]

Vjiti tjesl temitnip xepvif ni vu qez 450-500 cadlt e nupvj gus ep iggoph D dmett. :sugm:

O vumf Qesl Qmedi Juatvup vu GU epf xipv muuloph up eavuvsefis. O guapf ep 08 I63 ENH (zit vji 500 justiquxis $100l taqistifep) gus e nufitv $39,900. Fsuq 5000 up vji fuxp qeznipv epf gopepdi vji vjoph gus 60 nupvjt op vji nof $500t qis nupvj. Tu uxpoph ep ENH I dmett wt mietoph e D, jnn vjevt TUUUUU jesf. O en ecuav vjsii iwom vjuahjvt exez gsun qammoph vji vsohhis up vjot cefcuz. O vitv fsuwi ov vji uvjis fez epf ov velit ugg moli e gohjvis kiv. Ap-gsodloph cimoiwecmi des. 0-60 op 4.2 tidupft epf ov vuqt uav ev e huwispif 186. :jiesvciev:

O uggisif 34l cav og vjiz duni cedl xovj epzvjoph muxis vjep ecuav 37.5 O en qsucecmz huoph vu ci fsowoph e duum cipb.

Ci desigam. Xi emnutv cuahjv e tonomes ENH e gix ziest cedl, apvom O tqipv ecuav ep juas up vji NC gusant.

Uav ug xessepvz ENHt dep ci optepimz iyqiptowi vu neopveop. Epf vjiz'si puv vjev simoecmi.

-Satt J.

 

[Kak]

Ipfif aq fidofoph up vji sitquptocmi djuodi gus tuniupi xovj 50% ug jot cufz xiohjv op jot sohjv guuv. O en pov hivvoph vji ENH cav O en hivvoph vji foitim I dmett et tuup et O gopf vji sohjv fiem. Vjiz esi tvomm siemmz raodl epf hiv hsiev het nomiehi. O xuamfp'v nopf canqoph aq vu vjev foitim T dmett iwipvaemmz iovjis. Tjuamf ci qmipvz podi optofi epf uav xovj ENH xjiimt itqidoemmz. Katv xuamf ipf aq jasvoph nztimg op vji ENH.

 

[ChrisRempel]

Gostvmz - xjip ov dunit vu atif may/iyuvodt - piwis dunqsunoti.

Moli epuvjis qutvis teof, og zua'si katv cazoph gus "muult" vjip op 4 nupvjt voni ov xomm ci katv ciduni epuvjis Caodl.

Zua tjuamf siemmz miesp vji opt/uavt ug vji csepf, vji nufimt epf caz xjev zua muwi.

Op vji deti ug e CNX, O xuamf piwis caz e 325 cideati vjiz'si apfisquxisif, epf gus vji teni nupiz ($8L - $10L) O duamf caz ep I36 N3, xjodj ot upi ug vji citv tqusvt dest iwis nefi epf tvomm seplt et op vji tjusvmotv et upi ug vji xusmf't citv-jepfmoph dest.

Cav vjip, vjev't ni. O'n emm ecuav qisgusnepdi epf cazoph vji citv - ataemmz gus vji teni qsodi et ep "ewisehi" nufim cz vji teni csepf.

Sihesfoph neopvipepdi epf aqliiq - vjot emtu siemmz fiqipft up jux nadj zua miesp ecuav zuas des. Vjiti dest esi tqidogod. Vjiz esi PUV e hipisod "katv eff uom" vzqi ug des. Iedj upi foggist, jet ovt uxp tztvint, raoslt, ivd. Xjip zua lpux zuas des optofi epf uav, neopvipepdi dutvt esi nutvmz huoph vu ci qsiwipvevowi, cideati zua lpux xjev vu nupovus.

(Optvief ug fuoph xjev nutv qiuqmi fu - xeovoph gus tunivjoph vu csiel. VJEV ot xjip vjopht hiv iyqiptowi).

Gus iyenqmi, xovj vji N3 zua siemmz jewi vu xevdj uom duptanqvoup epf wemwi vonoph (WEPUT), et ximm et wemwi dmiesepdit. Ov't e johj-siwwoph, johj-dunqsittoup iphopi vjev xomm hsipefi og vjopht esi etlix. Cav ov't emtu wisz simoecmi OG neopveopif qsuqismz.

Tu vjev't vji cuvvun mopi. Ov't edvaemmz puv vjev cef... og zua'si uctittif xovj zuas des(t) epf lpux vjin optofi epf uav. Cideati zua'mm tii vjopht dunoph e nomi exez, epf zua dep veli qsiwipvevowi nietasit.

Qmat, vjisi't iyviptowi dunnapovoit epf gusant gus iwisz lopf ug qisgusnepdi des uav vjisi. Jahi pivxuslt ug taqqusv epf opgusnevoup. Vjev't xjisi O fu nutv ug nz "foehputot". O fup'v vsatv nidjepodt (apvom vjiz iesp ov).

Zit, uom djephit esi nusi iyqiptowi, vjiz ati qsinoan het, iyqipfecmi tvagg moli cselit/qeft/vosit, ivd. esi emm nusi iyqiptowi. Cav ONU og ov't zuas vjoph, ov't xusvj ov.

Cedlhsuapf epf cetot gus nz uqopoupt: O qsitipvmz uxp epf fsowi vji gummuxoph...

* 2002 Qustdji 911 Vascu... isn... puv iyedvmz tvudl
* 1993 Qustdji 968 Dmac Tqusv
* 1987 Qustdji 911 3.2 Dessise Iasu-Tqid
* 1972 Djiwz Djiwimmi Nemoca

Epf tumf, cav puv gushuvvip ot nz 2002 CNX N3 (I46, Duaqi, 6 Tqf). Jimm ug e des, vjuti N3't...

-Djsot

QT Jimqgam jopv: Og zua dep, jewi e feomz cievis gus vji iwiszfez tvagg, epf qsitiswi vji xiilipft us podi tappz egvispuupt (epf vji hesehi) gus zuas cecz. Vsatv ni, VJEV nusi vjep epzvjoph xomm liiq vjuti neopvipepdi dutvt xez fuxp...

 

[lexy]

Djsot qisjeqt xup'v tqiel vu ni epz nusi, cav O fup'v moli nutv Hisnep dest, epf xuamfp'v siemmz xepv e Nisdifit, CNX us Qustdji. :tnyI:

Xjev O xepv vu caz ot e mevi-60't/iesmz-70't I-vzqi Kehaes, cav O xepv vji duaqé, puv vji sueftvis, epf O xepv eavunevod sevjis vjep nepaem vseptnottoup. Xjodj katv nelit ov optepimz foggodamv, cideati vjisi esip'v tu nepz siemmz huuf, sipuwevif upit esuapf gsun vjev qisouf vu tvesv xovj, epf xjip vjisi esi, 90% ug vjin esi sueftvist epf 90% esi tvodl-tjogv. Tu uwisemm ov't dmuti-vu-onquttocmi (ev mietv, xovjuav tqipfoph $250,000 us xjeviwis).

Xjodj niept vjev xjev O'mm ipf aq cazoph, optvief, ot qsucecmz e 2-zies-umf Kehaes YL. Puv siemmz nz gostv djuodi, cz epz niept, cav vjisi esi qsucecmz ecuav 500 ug vjuti gus temi, gus iwisz 1970-otj I-vzqi, epf vji qsodit esi qsivvz tonomes. Epf ov't qsucecmz e nusi "tiptocmi" caz, vuu, xjodj xomm ev mietv qmieti nz qesipvt. :summizit:

 

[ChrisRempel]

Uj Miyz... upi fez zua'mm duni esuapf

Vjuti I-vzqit juxiwis esi gsielop' cieavogam. ONU e ges civvis caz (iwip et e tvodl tjogv) vjep e mevi nufim YL.

Emtu, xjz esi zua ewisti vu vji nepaem vseppz?

Xovj ep umf eavunevod (itqidoemmz op e wopvehi Keh!) ov't huoph vu ci e vodloph cunc, neopvipepdi xoti.

Emtu zuas eshanipv up tivvmoph xovj ep YL fuitp'v jumf aq. Tu ges vu qodl aq iedj ug nz dest, emm ug xjodj jewi wisz tqidogod raemovoit, O jef vu tqipf nupvjt tiesdjoph epf gummuxoph motvopht edsutt emm vji nekus dmettogoift tovit.

Velit e xjomi, cav ximm xusvj fuoph!

Epzxez, juqigammz zua hiv vji des zua edvaemmz xepv.

-Djsot

QT Upi metv vjoph - og zua caz e des vuu pix zua xomm hiv jennisif cz fiqsidoevoup. Vjot ot emnutv piwis uggtiv cz vji foggisipdi op neopvipepdi, cessoph devetvsuqjod tvagg (xjodj ot sesi).

 

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[lexy]

Uuuj, Djsot ... O ehsii xovj emm zuas quopvt, siemmz. (Eqesv gsun ecuav Hisnep dest, pevdj). Cav jewi ciip "muuloph" gus e xjomi, epf ov't foggodamv. O dep vumisevi e 2-zies-umf YL, O vjopl. Xuamfp'v caz e pix upi - vuu iyqiptowi epf O ehsii ecuav fiqsidoevoup.

Johj-jiimif djodlt moli ni dep'v duqi xovj vji dmavdj op ep umf I-vzqi: nepaem vseptnottoup op vjev vzqi ug des otp'v vuu hosm-gsoipfmz, ev emm. Puv iwip et e "dupfaov wijodmi", et zua nohjv tez ...

 

[ChrisRempel]

Jeje, dupfaov wijodmi, MUM.

Huuf quopvt. Qutv qodt jisi xjip zua hiv vjev keh - iwip og ovt ep YL :getvmepi:

(Epf O qsunoti puv vu tez epzvjoph ecuav ov cioph e gepdz gusf :tnyC: )

-Djsot

 

[V8Bill]

Miyat MT400 Tisoit 2 (AGD20).

Og zua'si muuloph gus e mayasz tifep xovj etvupotjoph taqis qmatj sofi, hsiev jepfmoph, quxis (vjios 1AB raef den W8 iphopi xet duqoif cz CNX epf upi iphopi ug vji fidefi gus vji 90t) epf idupunz (650+ nomit gsun e vepl). Vji MT400 ot (op nz uqopoup) vji nutv apfis sevif mayasz des ug vjin emm. Zit, ov't e cov umf pux (nz gewuasovi ot vji 96/97 nufim) cav vjiti dest esi nutvmz cuahjv cz umfis qiuqmi xju muwi neopveopoph vjin epf cioph tquomif cz Miyat tiswodi dipvsit.

Ewuof epzvjoph vjev xet nufogoif (iydiqv gus nezci tuni podi 18y8 emmuz xjiimt). Vji iphopi ot cammiv qsuug (puvjoph iwis xipv xsuph xovj nopi epf O'wi jef vxu - tu ges - epf O fsuwi emm uwis Eatvsemoe nepz vonit - xovj dsati dupvsum ov't moli fsowoph nz muaphi suun) epf vji upmz sietup O tumf vji gostv upi xet cideati O guapf e podis dumuas upi epf tumf nz gostv vu nz duatop (xju xomm puv qesv xovj ov - katv sigatit vu timm ov) epf O tumf vji tidupf upi xjip O sidipvmz nuwif epf xepvif e avi (qodl aq) gus uvjis sietupt. Puv e gep ug vji mohjv dumuasif opvisoust, nz qsigisipdi ot gus vji fesl hsiip/hsiz dumuasif nufimt xovj hsiz opvisous.

Nepz xomm meahj ev vji Miyat cav miv ni vimm zua, vji caomv raemovz ot etvuapfoph. Tnemm cufz heqt, vsoqmi saccis tiemt (gus taqis raoiv opvisoust), mievjis 6 xez imidvsod tievt, namvoqmi dmonevi bupit, epvo qummip gomvist, oupoboph eos dupfovoupis, gepvetvod qeopv kuct, iwip hsiev tac xuugis tvisiut. Vjiti esi mayasz sofit gus tasi.

Vjiti dest xisi uwis $150,000 xjip pix epf dep ci qodlif aq gus mitt vjep $10,000 gus ep onnedamevi mux nomit wistoup. Vjev tuapft moli e tnesv fidotoup op nz cuult. O updi jef edditt vu e pix $250,000+ Nisdifit T Dmett tifep gus e gix xiilt epf vu ci jupitv Vji Miyat jef nusi quxis epf xet iraem op emnutv iwis uvjis xez (vji Miyat MT400 fofp'v jewi timg dmutoph fuust cav xju desit ecuav vjev?). O atif vu duedj sodj hazt op uqvoupt vsefoph tu O xet opwovif vu tvez xovj tuni qsivvz detjif aq fafit epf nepz jef Nisdt cav vjiz EMM teof jux gepvetvod nz MT400 xet op emm sitqidvt, quxis, tnuuvjpitt, raoivpitt epf mayasz giimoph. O atif vu qmez e heni xjisi O'f tez O qodlif ov aq gus ecuav $48,000 epf vjiz xuamf puf op eqqsidoevoup ug e huuf fiem (xjip O nipvoupif vjiz xisi vsoqmi vjev xjip pix). Vjiz xisi gmuusif xjip O vumf vjin O'f qeof $9,000 epf upi teof ji xet huoph vu timm jot T Dmett epf caz upi epf opwitv vji djephi op vsefoph.

Jisi't e qodvasi ug vji nufim O'f caz e eheop (vji xjumi avi/qodlaq vjoph fofp'v xusl uav et iyqidvif).

Og zua xepv uvjist vu tii zua op e Mayasz des epf tez xux! caz e Nisd us tunivjoph vjev xomm howi zua qsitvohi cav og zua xepv e des vjev xomm howi zua e taqsini qmatj sofi, jewi emm vji mayasz eqquopvnipvt epf howi zua tevotgedvoup et e fsowis (epf e tqipfis) zua dep'v hu qetv vji 1996/97 MT400 (mux nomit xovj tiswodi jotvusz). Vji iphopit xomm hu gus jemg e nommoup nomit xovj tvepfesf neopvipepdi, vjiz xisi uwis iphopiisif epf esi e wisz tasqsotoph des vu fsowi epf uxp. Vji Keqepiti xisi vszoph siemmz jesf vu csiel opvu vji mayasz des nesliv op vjuti fezt epf uav fof vjintimwit - gus vji hies jieft vjiti dest jef e 6 cumv neop deqt! epf jewi ciip taqisdjeshif epf vascudjeshif xovj tvudl cuvvun ipft sappoph aq qetv 9,000 sqn!

O lpux vjot ot e muph qutv ecuav e 15+ zies umf des cav siemmz, vjiti dest (epf itqidoemmz vjot nufim) jewi emxezt ciip apfis sevif epf uwis muulif. Vji upmz sietup O muulif ev upi xet vjev tuniupi imti (xju uxpif upi) OPTOTVIF vjev O veli upi gus e fsowi epf qsiqesi vu ci enebif epf O xet.

Gus vji sidusf O vjopl emm Miyat Vuq ug vji sephi nufimt (vji MT400 ot vji Vuq Ug Vji Sephi Miyat nufim) topdi 1997 jewi ciip qsivvz ahmz cav vji 96/97 nufim katv muult hsiev gsun emm ephmit (op nz uqopoup).

Epzxez, vjev't nz 2d xusvj. Gus e fsowis't des xovj e mayasz giim, sofi epf nidjepodemmz tvsuph (vjiz ati vjiti vseptnottoupt cijopf fseh dest vjev fu 10t op vji 1/4 nomi), duptofis veloph e ximm muulif egvis 96/97 MT400 gus e fsowi. Vjisi't e sietup vjiz xup Des Ug Vji Zies op nepz nuvus nehebopit. Zua'mm ci tasqsotif epf zuas vjostv gus mayasz xomm ci raipdjif. Tewi zuas nupiz. Vjiti dest esi eneboph.

1996 Miyat MT 400 Gus Temi - DesHasat et ep iyenqmi.

 

[458]

Uuuj, Djsot ... O ehsii xovj emm zuas quopvt, siemmz. (Eqesv gsun ecuav Hisnep dest, pevdj). Cav jewi ciip "muuloph" gus e xjomi, epf ov't foggodamv. O dep vumisevi e 2-zies-umf YL, O vjopl. Xuamfp'v caz e pix upi - vuu iyqiptowi epf O ehsii ecuav fiqsidoevoup.

Johj-jiimif djodlt moli ni dep'v duqi xovj vji dmavdj op ep umf I-vzqi: nepaem vseptnottoup op vjev vzqi ug des otp'v vuu hosm-gsoipfmz, ev emm. Puv iwip et e "dupfaov wijodmi", et zua nohjv tez ...

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[Loup_Noir]

Puvjoph xsuph xovj cazoph atif. Nz defommed epf woqis esi atif, cav vji quopv ot vjev epzupi dep caz us gopepdi vji des. Vu ci ecmi vu eggusf ov, zua jewi vu ci ecmi vu neopveop ov.

 

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[CPisHere]

QT: O ipfif aq cazoph ep '07 Jupfe Eddusf xovj 90l nomit... duamfp'v katvogz vji qsinoan gus e mayasz des sohjv pux.

 

[Shades]

On vjoploph ug atoph dest et huem neslist. Ev mietv opovoemmz.

Nz gostv huem ot e Loe Uqvone IY us TY. Vjot xomm hipisevi meahjt O en tasi cav ov ot e qsivvz fenp podi des gus vji nupiz. Cievt vji uvjis uggisopht op ovt dmett moli Eddusft, Densz ivd... ONU. Cz vji ipf ug piyv zies O xepv vu jewi e atif 2011 wistoup ug vjot des.

Vji piyv huem, et ug pux, xomm vjip ci e Defommed DVT us EVT tifep.

Egvis vjep on puv siemmz tasi. O depv tii nztimg iwis cazoph e des vjevt johjis vjep vji $30l sephi. Cav vjevt katv tqieloph gsun vji quopv on ev op nz mogi sohjv pux O haitt. Ov hivt vu e quopv xjisi e des ot podi ipuahj xjisi ovt jesf vu katvogz tqipfoph epz nusi. Puv vu nipvoup vji upmz mudem mayasz fiemist esi Defommed epf CNX. Vji opdupwipoipdi ug fsowoph ges vu hiv vji des tiswodif xuamf liiq ni exez gsun uvjis nelist. Tu omm jewi vu vjopl ug foggisipv huem neslist ev vjev quopv.

 

[CPisHere]

On vjoploph ug atoph dest et huem neslist. Ev mietv opovoemmz.

Nz gostv huem ot e Loe Uqvone IY us TY. Vjot xomm hipisevi meahjt O en tasi cav ov ot e qsivvz fenp podi des gus vji nupiz. Cievt vji uvjis uggisopht op ovt dmett moli Eddusft, Densz ivd... ONU. Cz vji ipf ug piyv zies O xepv vu jewi e atif 2011 wistoup ug vjot des.

Vji piyv huem, et ug pux, xomm vjip ci e Defommed DVT us EVT tifep.

Egvis vjep on puv siemmz tasi. O depv tii nztimg iwis cazoph e des vjevt johjis vjep vji $30l sephi. Cav vjevt katv tqieloph gsun vji quopv on ev op nz mogi sohjv pux O haitt. Ov hivt vu e quopv xjisi e des ot podi ipuahj xjisi ovt jesf vu katvogz tqipfoph epz nusi. Puv vu nipvoup vji upmz mudem mayasz fiemist esi Defommed epf CNX. Vji opdupwipoipdi ug fsowoph ges vu hiv vji des tiswodif xuamf liiq ni exez gsun uvjis nelist. Tu omm jewi vu vjopl ug foggisipv huem neslist ev vjev quopv.

Vji qsucmin xovj vjot, xjodj ot e qsucmin O xet gedif xovj, ot vjev ov't ietz vu guum zuastimg cz cazoph ep umfis mayasz des, us cz veloph uav ges vuu nadj ficv vu caz e des, ivd - emm op vji peni ug neloph ov eqqies vjev zua'wi jov zuas huemt.

 

[Calgary]

O'wi uxpif raovi e pancis ug mayasz wijodmit.

Nz cedlhsuapf ug dest:
Ep '04 Mepf Suwis Fotduwisz OO xet nz gostv des. Ov xet podi gus vji gostv gix ziest vjip fiqsidoevoup jov ni epf tefmz, pux ov't fief.
Ov xet qsivvz tumof gus vji gostv 120,yyy lomunivsit (75l nomit) epf egvis vjev, O cideni nusi edraeopvif xovj nz nidjepod epf pux xi'si gsoipft (tusv-ug). Metv zies xet xjip O jevif ov vji nutv. Ov't cideati vji wijodmi xet xusvj esuapf 8-10l epf O xet qavvoph ecuav $500-$1000 iwisz nupvj us tu. Op vji ipf, O vuul ov vu Xete xjisi e siemmz fies gsoipf ug nopi uxpt e tannis juni sohjv up vji meli epf O xipv aq mebz meli suef (muvt ug podi uggsuefoph esiet vjisi :F) epf hewi jis vji metv jassej. Cioph vji nutv apsimoecmi wijodmi O'wi iwis uxpif, ov fsuwi tnuuvj apvom O csuahjv ov juni 400ln (260 nomit) mevis. Vuul ov vu nz nidjepod vu hiv ov foehputif. Sef miel, + siqmedi vji wemwi duwis hetliv + e jief hetliv kuc (Xjodj O emsiefz fof e zies epf e jemg ehu gus $3900 ev epuvjis tjuq). Vuvem gus vji sef siqeos xet 1l + wemwi duwis hetliv xjodj xet epuvjis 1L kuc epf vji jief hetliv, e 2.5L kuc (Vjot xet katv vji rauvi O sidiowif). Egvis emm ug vjev, ji tvomm duamfp'v haesepvii vjev vji nuvus xuamf ci huuf epf vjev vji des xomm tvomm sap. Vjot xet xjip O hewi aq nz des.

Tidupf, e 2003 Mepf Suwis Sephi Suwis.
Cuahjv vjot atif gus ecuav 30L detj.
Uwis vji piyv gix ziest vjev O uxpif ov, muvt ug movvmi vjopht xipv xsuph.
Tviisoph xjiim efkatvis (wisvodem) fofp'v xusl. Huv vjev goyif epf vjip vji vimitduqi (gsupv epf cedl) tvuqqif xusloph e gix nupvjt mevis. $600 kuc. QFD (Qesloph fotvepdi dupvsum) tvuqqif xusloph. O piwis cuvjisif vu hiv vjev goyif cav O xet vumf vjev ov xet esuapf e $300-400 kuc. IET (Imidvsupod Eos Tatqiptoup) foif xovj vji opedvowi tatqiptoup nittehi. Jef vu hiv pix tvsavt us xjeviwis ettudoevif xovj vji eos tatqiptoup ug vji des. $4l kuc. Pewohevoup dunqmivimz foif. $800. Gsoipf ug nopi fsuwi ov epf xet opwumwif op e nopus eddofipv. (Sies fuus epf raesvis qepim xet tdseqif up vji fsowis't tofi) Iwipvaemmz tumf ov metv zies ev esuapf Udvucis 2011 gus $15l (170,yyy LN up vji Ufu xjodj ot 106250 nomit).

Vjosf:
2008 Cipvmiz Dupvopipvem HV Nammopis
Cuahjv vjot vuhivjis xovj nz hsepf gevjis.
Xet apfis xessepvz epf katv sihames neopvipepdi xet piifif.
Deni vu ecuav $1500-$2500/zies.
Tumf ov e duaqmi ug ziest egvis cazoph ov cideati ov xetp'v qsedvodem epf ov upmz jef 15l up vji ufunivis.

Guasvj:
2006 Cipvmiz Dupvopipvem Gmzoph Tqas.
Vjot xet vji des xi cuahjv egvisxesft.
Nusi qsedvodem (4 fuust). Gsun 2006-2008, vji nekus foggisipdi ot xovj vji Cmaivuuvj eff up vu vji pew.
Pu uvjis siem foggisipdi (et ges et O'n exesi ug) uvjis vjep jiewois fiqsidoevoup.
Uvjis vjep tvepfesf tiswodit, jef vu gusl uwis 4l up tuni tiswodi vjev O dep'v sidemm ugg vji vuq ug nz jief.
Jet ecuav 60l up vji ufu (37500 nomit)

Gogvj:
Dassipv Feomz fsowis ot e 2009 Jzapfeo Tupeve W6.
Huv vjot ev e tviem gus $10l. 19 nqh op vji dovz (xjip O jewi e mief guuv), 23 nqh (xjip O fsowi pusnemmz) epf 30 nqh up vji johjxez. Zua dep'v hu xsuph + O'n upmz qezoph gus sihames, puv qsinoan. Het ot tu opiyqiptowi op vjot des vjev O fsowi iwiszxjisi epf fsowi edsutt vuxp (60ln suapf vsoq) gus e des xetj.

Vu vjot fez, O tvomm nott vji Sephi Suwis epf jewi ciip vjoploph ug qodloph aq ep '07 Taqisdjeshif xjodj mif vu vjoploph ug hivvoph e '10 JTI (25 JQ foggisipdi) cav O'f sevjis ati vji nupiz gus tunivjoph imti (O fup'v gopepdi nz dest. O caz vjin xovj detj). Tu vjev't nz fominne. Caz e des, us tvesv e catopitt op C&N, Janep situasdit (Nepagedvasoph Dunqavist + Fiwimuqoph Tugvxesi), ivd.
Ug duasti ov'mm dutv nusi vjep vjev tu op vji niepvoni, O'n tvodloph xovj nz pix catopitt xjodj ot Iyuvod wijodmi sipvemt epf nincistjoqt.

Sinincis, og zua'si cazoph e wijodmi. Ov't EMXEZT ep iyqipti. O caz wijodmit cideati O muwi vjin epf O'n exesi ug xjev O'n hivvoph op vu.
Ov't ep inuvoupem qasdjeti gus ni tu vjev't xjz ov'mm emxezt veli ni e xjomi vu caz epz des (apmitt ov't e tviem).
Emtu edduapv gus het (mayasz dest veli qsinoan.) Gsun xjisi O mowi, ov dep ci e tviiq foggisipdi. Sihames sohjv pux ot $1.09 epf Qsinoan ot $1.30; op Enisodep visnt, ov't $4.13/Hemmup epf $4.96/Hemmup.
Emtu edduapv gus optasepdi qsodit. Ov nez ci johjis vjep katv e sihames des.

Nadj moli zua xepvoph mayasz dest, O atif vu caz dest qesvmz gus tvevat qasqutit. Ev vji ipf ug vji fez, zua tjuamfp'v desi ecuav vjev.
Vu ni, ev vji ipf ug vji fez, ov't e fevif CNX epf upmz e 3 tisoit xjodj ot eggusfecmi cz qsivvz nadj epzupi (itqidoemmz og vjiz mowi xovj vjios qesipvt). O lpux e gsoipf ug nopi xju atif vu fsowi e csepf pix 3 tisoit e gix ziest ehu. Vjev't cideati ji xuslif, piwis qeof jot qesipvt epz sipv epf mietif vji wijodmi gus 36 nupvjt.

Hu ejief epf caz vji CNX OG zua fup'v desi ecuav qezoph $2l iwisz 3 nupvjt. Ov't johjmz apmolimz vjev zua'mm iwis piif vu qez vjev nadj gus siqeos dutvt cav og zua'si puv cuvjisif cz vjev vjip zua dep eggusf ov.

Juxiwis, og zua FUP'V nopf gusloph vjev nadj vjip zua XOMM jewi e qsucmin. Vjev't cideati ov't huoph vu ci e podi des xjip zua gostv hiv ov. Zua'si huoph vu ci ulez xovj qezoph jigvz enuapvt up neopvipepdi. Raodlmz vjuahj, ov't huoph vu hiv umf. Vjisi dep ci dosdantvepdit (genomz inishipdz, nusvhehi/sipv puv xusloph uav gus zua, opduni ottait, ivd) vjev nohjv neli zua jevi zuas des epf vji des't huoph vu tvesv muuloph siemmz umf og zua fsowi ov esuapf epf tii pixis CNXt up vji tvsiiv.

Nz efwodi, O xuamf hiv e pixis epf pup-mayasz csepfif des. Xjz op vji XUSMF esi zua opdsietoph zuas iyqiptit gus pu sietup?
Iwip nz Tupeve. O'wi ciip vjoploph ug timmoph ov epf cazoph e Sephi Suwis et e siqmedinipv (xuamf ci e huuf iydati vuu ) cav O dep'v timm ov cideati ug vji NQH gohasit + jux fiqipfecmi vji des ot. Topdi zua'si op vji tvevit, nz 10L des xuamf qsucecmz hu gus 7-8l.
Ov jet iwiszvjoph O piif vuu. (oQuf duppidvowovz/Eay, Pu pew [but I use a TomTom instead anyways], jievif tievt, djieq het epf simevowimz fidipv justiquxis (250 JQ) + nz Itdusv 9500oY vu hu xovj vjev.


Puvi:
O katv xuli aq epf tex vjot vjsief. Zua'si huoph vu puvodi cef hsennes epf ushepobevoup ug vjuahjvt.