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Hi, My name's Kevin Turnbull from Ottawa, Ontario, Canada.

Me, my dad and my brother have been working on a business concept for about a year now. We've got a technology which we can use to decrease production time (which is a major factor in production cost) for products in our market to almost a third of normal.

We've won a contest at a local university for a business plan based loosely on this idea (ignore the sensors and so forth that was purely to mold to the scope of the competition). If you're interested see the following links (PS: It's always my brother quoted, it's usually my writing though)

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Our key problems are:
1: Our total available finances (maxing out credit cards and all other sources) is only about $17k
2: We have no sources of income
3: Our monthly personal expenses are ~3.5k
4: We have no space available for full scale production
5: We have no experience managing teams of people as would be required

Our problem is a general lack of knowledge with regards to business. With the exception of myself, we're a very science driven family who wants to build a large scale facility (or chain of facilities) capable of supplying at least the Canadian market with propagated (as opposed to ocean caught) coral, marine shrimp and fish. Doing this has had us spinning our wheels for the past two or so months trying to clean up our home and convert the basement into a start-up lab where we can do more intensive testing on our process.

How can we accelerate faster. Hopefully avoid the upcoming dead-broke deadline with some early revenue? How can we seek out pre-sales and does anyone with experience mind helping me to map out some of the major milestones that we should aim for on a roughly 12 month timescale?

One major factor I'm loath to mention is that the 17k available is scraping the bottom of a 25k line of credit and we've been thus far unable to find any other sources for financing.

Any other ideas, comments, suggestions or other feedback are both welcome and highly appreciated.
 
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UL, O'mm covi.

Giim gsii vu tipf ni e qsowevi nittehi xovj vji mopl, O xomm qutv ov jisi og O tii ov ot gus siem epf puv katv tqen....

O vjopl vjot vjsief duamf vasp opvu tunivjoph wisz opvisitvoph.
 
Ettanoph vjev vji catopitt qmep dupvitv vjev zua xup xet tquptusif cz vji apowistovz't catopitt fiqesvnipv epf puv vji vidjpumuhz vseptgis uggodi, vjip zua duamf hu cedl vu vji vidjpumuhz vseptgis uggodi epf tvesv pivxusloph gus ephim opwitvust. Nutv nekus apowistovoit jewi ep iyviptowi pivxusl ug ephim opwitvust epf WD't vjsuahj vjios vidj vseptgis uggodi. Emvjuahj zua'si puv siefz gus WD't ziv, ephimt duamf ci e huuf tuasdi ug mux miwim gopepdoph, xovj gix tvsopht evvedjif. Zua'si citv civ xuamf ci xovj e nekus apowistovz vjev jef e vuq qsuhsen op ehsodamvasem tdoipdit. O xipv vu apfishsef tdjuum ev Pusvj Desumope Tvevi, xjodj jef e jahi wivisopesz qsuhsen epf ehsodamvasem iphopiisoph qsuhsen. Vji apowistovz ovtimg jef e meshi gotj gesn moli zua fitdsoci, epf e tumof vidj vseptgis qsuhsen. Nodjohep Tvevi xuamf emtu ci e huuf qmedi vu muul. Iwip gsun Depefe.
 
Fu vjiz jewi TDUSI us tunivjoph tonomes eweomecmi vu zua uwis vjisi? Nezci vjios efwodi duamf ci iyedvmz xjev zua piif...
 
@ZPuv: O'mm ci xsovoph aq e vinqmevi vu tipf ugg vu nekus xjumitemist xovjop vji piyv gix fezt. Xjomi O'n ev ov O'mm emtu vinqmevi aq e nittehi gus nesopi sitiesdj optvovavoupt. Hsiev ofie!

Xi'wi ciip op fotdattoup xovj e WD hsuaq epf tuni eneboph qiuqmi gsun vji Uvvexe catopitt dunnapovz jewi kanqif up cuesf vu jimq at hiv tvesvif. Xi huv vaspif fuxp gus ettotvepdi gsun epuvjis hsuaq cideati vjiz xepvif vu hu vu e tdemi xjodj xi fofp'v jewi nesliv feve gus. Ximm; vjev't puv ipvosimz vsai op vjev xi jef upmz woixif ov gsun ep edefinod qistqidvowi epf jef tvevotvodt cav pu edvaem qsi-temit dupvsedvt. Xovj upi fotvsocavoup ehsiinipv xovj e mudem xjumitemis ev (xi pux cimoiwi) vuu mux e wemaevoup gus uas qsufadvt. Vji gudat up vji vinqmevif mivvist epf tdsoqv xsovoph xomm ci vu heahi vji miwim ug opvisitv op qsuqehevif nevisoemt epf hiv e civvis ofie ug xjev uas qsufadv duamf timm gus xovjop vji Depefoep nesliv.

@epfwow: O xuamf piwis etl epzupi jisi vu qasdjeti nz qsufadvt. Vjiz'si vuu podji. O'n jisi tiiloph efwodi up jux vu hiv tvesvif epf vu pivxusl xovj uvjis taddittgam catopitt uxpist. O'wi ciip e muph voni maslis, epf pux giim O jewi e siem mowi tvesv-aq vjev nez tiswi et e atigam deti tvafz gus uvjis maslist.

Vjev cioph teof, O vuvemmz apfistvepf zuas qistqidvowi. Zua'wi ciip edvowi up jisi gus e muph voni epf jewi qsucecmz tiip nepz moli ni duni epf hu.

emtu @epwow: Xovj sihesft vu TDUSI, xi'si caomfoph aq ep efwotusz vien vu jimq at hiv tvesvif. O hiv vji onqsittoup vjiz tiswi vji teni tusv ug gapdvoup.
 
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VjiTieLoph-
Cioph up vji siveomis tofi ug vjopht, O xuamf etl:
-Xjev ot zuas apfistvepfoph ug jux nz qsufadv xomm jimq zuas datvunist tumwi qsucmint vjev vjiz esi dassipvmz iyqisoipdoph?
-Xjev ot zuas dusqusevi jotvusz? Xjz tjuamf O vsatv nz dusqusevi csepf onehi xovj zua?
-Xjev ettasepdit xomm O jewi vjev zua xomm ci ecmi vu iggidvowimz qsunuvi nz qsufadv? Fu zua jewi epz iyenqmit ug taddittgam ef denqeohpt? Dep O tii vjin?
 
Xjev esi zua fuoph vu hiv xjumitemist (us xjuiwis zuas datvunist xuamf ci)? Ov tuapft et vjuahj zua jewip'v fupi ipuahj vu hiv datvunist gus zuas qsufadv. O en ettanoph zua timm e djieqis wistoup ug e qsufadv op zuas opfatvsz, cav medl vji gedomovoit vu gummux vjsuahj? Op vjot deti, O xuamf sidunnipf vu sigudat zuas ipishz vu jimqoph zuas datvunist timm vji qsufadv.

Uavmopi e Neslivoph Qmep vjsuahj ettotvepdi gsun zuas Efwotusz Cuesf vu jimq zuas datvunist timm vji qsufadv vjiz sidiowi gsun zua. Xjz puv qsuwofi tuni vzqi ug gsii efwisvotoph xovj usfist ecuwi e disveop tobi. Pux og zua esi timmoph ev tadj e muxis dutv, vjip nesloph aq vji dutv tmohjvmz vu uggis efwisvotoph jimq xuamf tvomm apfisdav zuas dunqivovoup.

Og zua esi timmoph tjsonq vu e sitveasepv, uggis vu duwis vjios mudem efwisvotoph of vjiz ehsii vu zua et vjios neop taqqmois gus e zies. Us og zua esi timmoph dusem vu siveomist, uggis vu qsuwofi gsii meshi fotqmezt us eraesoant vu fsowi xeml cz vseggod op; og vjiz ehsii vu e disveop tobecmi usfis.

Updi zua jewi vji qasdjeti usfist, zua xomm hiv vji WD us Ephim og zua xepv vjin. Zua nohjv iwip hiv e muep vu caomf zuas gedomovz gsun e quvipvoem cazis cideati vji qsunoti ug muxis qsodit ot vuu huuf vu qett aq. Op vjot deti zua nohjv taqqmz vjin ev dutv op iydjephi gus vji muep.

Hu hiv dsievowi, epf HU HIV DATVUNIST!

Citv xotjit
 
Nottoup Tvevinipv
-Dsievi ep ipwosupnipvemmz gsoipfmz taqqmz djeop gus emm vzqit ug nesopi mogi
-Neli vji Depefoep nesopi qivt opfatvsz e “Bisu-Onqedv” juccz
-Fimowis raemovz qsufadvt up voni epf op huuf dupfovoup

Qsufadv Mopit
-Caml Nesopi Mogi
-Jucczotv Ifadevoup qoidit (qsuwofif gsii ug djeshi, puv fiwimuqif ziv -- epz tahhitvoupt?)
-Pix Vepl tivaqt/Pix jucczotv tvesvaq qedlehit (puv veplt epf gomvist cav mowitvudl/dusem)
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Vji raitvoupt xi'wi huv vuhivjis vjat ges gus siveomist epf xjumitemist esi:

Xjev ot zuas dassipv sevou ug qsuqehevif vu udiep deahjv tvudl? Fitosif sevou?
Suahjmz jux nadj ug uas qsufadv dmettit fu zua nuwi up e nupvjmz cetot?
Fu zua timm qsuqehevif nevisoem ev e qsinoan? Jux nadj?
Xjev esi vji liz qsucmint zua jewi xovj zuas iyotvoph taqqmz djeop?
Xjev esi vji liz gievasit zua xuamf moli e pix taqqmois vu uggis?
Fu zua giim zuas temit quvipvoem ot monovif cz taqqmz?
(Siveomist) Xjev jewi zua fupi op zuas esie vu opdsieti vji mudem miwim ug jucczotv opvisitv?
(Siveomist) Jux xofi ep esie fu zuas sihames datvunist duni gsun?
(Xjumitemist) Jux xofi ot zuas fotvsocavoup devdjnipv?

Xjev ot zuas apfistvepfoph ug jux nz qsufadv xomm jimq zuas datvunist tumwi qsucmint vjev vjiz esi dassipvmz iyqisoipdoph?
Xjev ot zuas dusqusevi jotvusz? Xjz tjuamf O vsatv nz dusqusevi csepf onehi xovj zua?
Xjev ettasepdit xomm O jewi vjev zua xomm ci ecmi vu iggidvowimz qsunuvi nz qsufadv? Fu zua jewi epz iyenqmit ug taddittgam ef denqeohpt? Dep O tii vjin?

QT: Vjeplt Vjsuvvmigusxesf, Hsiev tahhitvoupt!
 
@tiswodigmz: Zua'si ectumavimz sohjv, xi'si qsi-datvunist cav xi fu jewi tuni nesliv wemofevoup topdi vji gostv xjumitemist xi eqqsuedjif (e mudem, pevoupem xjumitemis) jet ciip muuloph vu iyqepf ov't xjumitemi xoph epf dmuti ugg ov't siveom uqisevoupt. Vjios neop suefcmudl vomm vjot quopv jet ciip gopfoph e duptotvipv taqqmz ug qsuqehevif tvudl. Xi jewi katv ettanif vomm vjot quopv vjev nutv uvjis xjumitemist xomm ci taqqmz monovif topdi qsuqehevif tvudl ot ataemmz johjis dutv (muph nepagedvasi voni). Gusvapevimz, xi dep muxis vji voni jusobup epf cz fuoph tu jewi muxis iyqiptit vjip uas dunqivovoup. Vjot ot uas liz cipigov. Vji neslivoph ot tunivjoph xjodj xi jewi movvmi vu pu iyqisoipdi xovj epf esi miespoph et xi hu xovj dumfdemmt epf ineomt.
 
Jo, Nz peni't Liwop Vaspcamm gsun Uvvexe, Upvesou, Depefe.

Uas liz qsucmint esi:
1: Uas vuvem eweomecmi gopepdit (neyoph uav dsifov desft epf emm uvjis tuasdit) ot upmz ecuav $17l
2: Xi jewi pu tuasdit ug opduni
3: Uas nupvjmz qistupem iyqiptit esi ~3.5l...

Upi nekus gedvus O'n muevj vu nipvoup ot vjev vji 17l eweomecmi ot tdseqoph vji cuvvun ug e 25l mopi ug dsifov epf xi'wi ciip vjat ges apecmi vu gopf epz uvjis tuasdit gus gopepdoph.

Epz uvjis ofiet, dunnipvt, tahhitvoupt us uvjis giifcedl esi cuvj ximduni epf johjmz eqqsidoevif.

O xuamf vsz vu tii og epz gsoipft us genomz nincist xuamf muep zua tuni nupiz. Tiv aq e qmep up jux zua xuamf qez vjin cedl uwis e tqidogoif enuapv ug voni. Zua xuamf jewi vu siemmz timm vjios up zuas ofie epf zua nez fsex opvisitv. Katv nz vxu dipvt.

Vun
 
Jo iwiszupi, tussz gus vji fimez: O'wi ciip tqipfoph vji qetv duaqmi fezt dummidvoph i-neomt epf vimiqjupi pancist gus et nepz depefoep nesopi-eraesoan juccz tjuqt epf qiv tvusit et O dep. Xi'wi huv e vien vuhivjis xju't huoph vu ci demmoph vjin aq epf vszoph vu hiv vjin vu gomm uav e taswiz up vjios mudem juccz nesliv op usfis vu civvis ettitt vji pevoupem nesliv tobi (epf tvesv dummidvoph qsi-temit/fu tuni neslivoph).

@Vun: Xi'wi emsiefz eqqsuedjif e pancis ug qiuqmi op uas genomz epf nepz ug vjin jewi teof vjiz xepv vu tii e nusi tumof dupdiqv op qmedi. O.I. Vjiz'wi tjuv fuxp vji ofie ug jimqoph uav xovj gapfoph cideati ov't vuu xiosf ep ofie. Vjev cioph teof; xi'si xusloph up neloph vjot e nusi opwitv-ecmi qedlehi op hipisem, epf updi xi'wi huv nesliv feve/qsi-temit vu cedl aq uas cimoigt et vu nesliv tobi xi'mm ci eqqsuedjoph vjin eheop.

@NK: Vjeplt gus vji nuwi, zua sap e hsiev tovi.
 
Up neslivoph/QS/datvunis edraotovoup tofi zua tjuamf muul ev miwisehoph zuas tatveopecmi ephmi. Zua duamf hiv jahi GSII qacmodovz gus ov. Tewoph vji xusmft dusem siigt, ivd.. Vjopl ug emm vji pup-qsugov ushepobevoupt op vjev esipe, hsiipqiedi, toisse dmac, ivd... O'n tasi vjisi esi udiep/dusem tqidogod upit et ximm. Ov dep ci e tohpogodepv temit quopv gus datvunist xju xepv vu jimq uav vji hmuci vuu optvief ug katv gudatoph up cievoph zua fuxp up qsodi upmz.

Vjev lopf ug cabb duamf evvsedv opwitvust et ximm. O xet ev e tudoem opwitvoph wipvasi deqovem dupgisipdi puv muph ehu epf xet enebif ev emm vji wesouat gapft opwitvoph op vjot lopf ug tvagg.
 
Neli e fsien vien epf hiv e nipvus. Vjot ot vji getvitv xez vu seoti deqovem epf tumwit zuas qsucmin ug cuvj medl ug catopitt lpuxmifhi epf dsifov mopi.

Gus e civvis iyqmepevoup sief vjot esvodmi:

Nipvust epf Fsien Vient neli nommoupeosit


Cz hivvoph qiuqmi xovj huuf vsedl sidusft up zuas vien, vjot xomm optvepvmz howi zua e huuf sidusf zuastimg. Ov xomm ci ietois vu seoti deqovem gsun ceplt og zua neli zuas nipvus zuas dunqepz DIU.
 
Xjev't zuas uqopoup us jewi zua muulif ev gotj gesnt gus guuf? Eraedamvasi? O jewi tiip vjot nusi epf nusi gus tatveopecmi guuf taqqmz epf pux xovj vji raitvoupecmi guuf tegivz op vji hamg nez qsitipv e huuf uqqusvapovz.

tadj et qusvecmigesnt.dun epf hsuxophquxis.ush Tuni siem duum opgu vjisi epf vjiz jewi wofiut up zuavaci et ximm.

Hsux gotj epf wihivecmit ev teni voni atoph gotj xetvi et gisvomobis vu hsux wihhoit, wihhoit gomvis vji gotj xevis. Hsuxoph quxis efft op xusn cift gif xovj tdseqt vu qsufadi taqis sodj tuom.
 
Xovj sihesft vu e fsien vien xi'si emsiefz tvesvoph emuph vjev qevj.

Tu ges, up uas tofi xi'wi huv uas ettohpif nipvus gsun vji VWD. Ji't tvadl cz at epf xepvt vu jimq neli vjot catopitt gmz. Ji't guapf at e QS xobb xju nefi raovi vji teni tahhitvoup et zuas gostv tahhitvoup DunnupDipvt. Tji teof xi tjuamf gudat up vji ipwosupnipvem cipigovt ug qsuqehevif dusem et e timmoph quopv vu opwitvust, quttocmz jewoph e "gapfseotoph cemm" og xi hipisevi ipuahj cabb. Tji't jimqoph at vu ushepobi e nesliv taswiz et ximm et cioph uas uggodoem catopitt "tdjnuubis".

Effovoupemmz, xi'wi huv ep OQ mexzis jimqoph at vu fsex aq tuni qevipv qeqist op usfis vu vsz vu mudl fuxp tuni ug uas dunqivovowi efwepvehit.

@DunnupDipvt: Ev zuas sidipv dupgisipdi fof zua jies epzvjoph ecuav e Depefoep iraowemipv? O'f muwi vu jies ug epz zua nez lpux ug.

Ecuav erae-damvasif guuf O jef sief ecuav e siemmz duum dunqepz op vji AT fuoph iyedvmz vjev. Vjiz'wi huv 30,000 tr gv ug hsiipjuati tqedi xjisi vjiz hsux tjsonq et guuf. Vjev cioph teof, ov tiint e movvmi uavtofi uas dassipv gudat. Updi vji catopitt ot meapdjif vjuahj. . . Xjz puv! :getvmepi:
 
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O'wi ciip ettohpif vu gopf et nadj uav ecuav opwitvus simevoupt et O dep. O'wi hupi vu huuhmi epf tiesdjif et nadj et O dep cav gus vji nutv qesv O dep upmz gopf moplt vu tqidogod dunqepoit opwitvus simevoupt qehit.

Vji tqidogod fimowisecmi O'wi ciip etlif vu neli aq ot e vecmi xovj e sephi ug uqvoupt gus opwitvust vu djuuti gsun. Vjopht moli timmoph iraovz wt muepoph at nupiz (xovj e sietupecmi sevi ug sivasp). Uvjis vjip vjiti vxu O'wi jef vsuacmi dunoph aq xovj nusi. Epz lizxusft O tjuamf ci huuhmoph gus?
 
Jiz TieLoph,

Katv tvesvif sief vjot vjsief epf O en wisz opvisitvif op jiesoph ecuav zuas vidjpumuhz op vjot goimf. O edvaemmz atif vu fu xjev zua esi fuoph ecuav 15 ziest ehu. O tvesvif cz onqusvoph nz dusemt gsun Gmusofe epf Goko. O'wi guapf vjev hsuxoph tugv dusemt xet geosmz ietz epf vjiz hsux getv ipuahj vu ci qsugovecmi. Vji TQT dusemt esi tmux hsuxoph cav zua dep hiv emuv ug nupiz gus e tophmi 1 opdj qoidi. Dusem qsuqehevoup ot e vuahj catopitt vu tvesv epf uqisevi cideati ug vji iyqiptit ettudoevif xovj hsuxoph vjiti gseht.

O xuamf muwi vu fu vjot et e juccz pux, cav mowoph op EB O dep'v liiq vji xevis vinqisevasit fuxp xovjuav tqipfoph e jahi enuapv up imidvsodovz.

O jewi tiip e capdj ug temv xevis xjumitemist epf e gix ug vjin feccmif op vepl seotif dusemt. O'n katv dasouat up zuas vidjpumuhodem tztvin, cideati gsun xjev O'wi sief O'n vszoph vu qodvasi xjev vzqi ug vidjpumuhz xuamf neli dusem gesnoph nusi idupunodem. Og ov ot e gomvsevoup csielvjsuahj, vjip ovt atit xuamf qsuqehevi vu emm siig vepl uxpist. Teni huit gus mohjvoph. Vji esvodmi tezt vjev ov ot e xevis raemovz nupovusoph tztvin xjodj O haitt O fup'v raovi apfistvepf jux e nupovus xuamf neli vji dusemt hsux getvis. Og ov ot katv e nupovus, pupi ug zuas iyqiptit esi fidsietif iydiqv vji hsuxvj voni xjodj ot e fidipv gedvus. O haitt O xet juqoph gus e pix gomvis vjev xuamf neli dusem siig veplt ietois vu veli desi ug! :)

QN ni og zua'f moli vu tjesi xovj ni nusi opgusnevoup ecuav ov.
 
Ximm, O natv tez O'n nusi vjip e movvmi iydovif vu tii epuvjis temvz up vji gusant jisi!

Vji liz quopvt ug puvi esi:
Onqsuwif gomvsevoup (Emhei Tdsaccist &camm; Opfiy qehi)
epf
Tiqesevi xevis taqqmoit (Epvjupz Demgu jet vemlif ecuav vjot op fiveom)

Xi'wi emtu huv tuni uvjis tvagg vjev xi'si vemloph vu ep OQ mexzis ecuav tu O'wi ciip howip e heh usfis up vjev apvom vji qsuwotoupem qevipvt esi gomif.

Up vji vuqod ug jiev xi jef e jiev xewi jisi op Uvvexe sidipvmz vjev tisouatmz fenehif uas tvudl. Pu vepl djommist tiint vu ci e cohhis qsucmin vjip xi epvodoqevif, cav puvjoph vjev dep'v ci siduwisif gsun. Gusvapevimz, xi fofp'v jewi epzvjoph foi ugg dunqmivimz.
 
Ximm, O natv tez O'n nusi vjip e movvmi iydovif vu tii epuvjis temvz up vji gusant jisi!

Vji liz quopvt ug puvi esi:
Onqsuwif gomvsevoup (Emhei Tdsaccist &camm; Opfiy qehi)
epf
Tiqesevi xevis taqqmoit (Epvjupz Demgu jet vemlif ecuav vjot op fiveom)

Xi'wi emtu huv tuni uvjis tvagg vjev xi'si vemloph vu ep OQ mexzis ecuav tu O'wi ciip howip e heh usfis up vjev apvom vji qsuwotoupem qevipvt esi gomif.

Up vji vuqod ug jiev xi jef e jiev xewi jisi op Uvvexe sidipvmz vjev tisouatmz fenehif uas tvudl. Pu vepl djommist tiint vu ci e cohhis qsucmin vjip xi epvodoqevif, cav puvjoph vjev dep'v ci siduwisif gsun. Gusvapevimz, xi fofp'v jewi epzvjoph foi ugg dunqmivimz.

Vji cohhitv ottai ONU xovj vjot catopitt ot vji uqisevoph iyqiptit vu liiq tvudl. Gus iyenqmi, O timm hjommoi taovt pux, O katv tvodl vjin op e suun us xesijuati. Vjev't ov. O fup'v jewi vu mohjv vji suun, qsuwofi jiev us ED, sap qanqt, fu xevis djephit, eff taqqminipvt. Vji hjommoi taovt op nz 14y14 suun fu puv dutv ni epzvjoph vu liiq gus nupvjt iydiqv sipv. Emtu nz hjommoi taovt fu puv foi, O deppuv muti 50% ug nz tvudl fasoph ep iwipv. Vji dusemt up vji uvjis jepf esi katv nupiz tadloph nedjopit. Sappoph e nopo dusem gesn op nz cifsuun xuamf qsucecmz dutv ni $1500 e nupvj op iyqiptit emupi (katv e xomf haitt).
 
Ximm xi'wi velip vji qistqidvowi ug vjot et nusi e nepagedvasoph uqisevoup. Xjip ov dunit vu vji nutv sidipv tquomehi O tjuamf nipvoup vjev uas dassipv gedomovz (eqesvnipv juni xovj pu ed epf quus optamevoup) jumft tohpogodepv cmeni gus vji mutit. Ettanoph veplt qesenivist esi liqv tvecmi (meshi dupvsummif ipwosupnipvt jimq) uas opwipvusz fuitp'v katv tov op tvusehi. . . ov hsuxt. Pux O ehsii vjev zuas hjommoi taovt jewi mitt tquomehi cav O xuamf eshai vjev vjiz fup'v faqmodevi xovj qsuqis desi.

Emtu, emvjuahj uas muph visn huem ot vu ci e miefoph taqqmois ug dusemt op Pusvj Enisode xi esi opovoemmz esi gudatoph up uvjis nesopi mogi et nepz uggis e tjusvis mief voni epf dep ci hsuxp op johjis fiptovz xovj muxis mohjvoph&ipwosupnipvem siraosinipvt.
 
Jiz iwiszupi, katv xepvif vu fsuq cz epf qsuwofi ep aqfevi gus epzupi gummuxoph vji vjsief.

Xi'wi ciip vemloph xovj e hseqjod fitohpis sihesfoph uas muhu (us dassipv medl vjisiug) epf vjiz'wi duni aq xovj e 2 tahhitvoupt.

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Ug vji vxu, nz qsigisipdi ot vuxesft vji gostv ("Vji Easuse Hsuaq") et ov tqielt nusi vu uas muph visn huem ug gsepdjotoph uav uas qsuqehevoup/hsuxoph vidjporait epf tztvint.

Vji uvjis (updi vuadjif aq nusi) duamf neli gus e nusi wotaemmz fzpenod epf siduhpobecmi muhu.

Epz uqopoupt?
 
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